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On 1/14/16, jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ... The main criticism I had
>> of this was the fact that the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1
>> BTC, which at the time was somewhere around $1000.=C2=A0 This, contrasti=
ng with
>> my Assassination Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing =
bits
>> of 10 cents.
>> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered
>> necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trust=
the
>> system?=C2=A0 How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?=C2=A0 Ho=
w to collect?I
>> never tried to research into this, because I judged that to do so would =
be a
>> little too 'hot' for me to do.
>i am curious how you arrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)>h=
ow do you pick where to draw that line?>*he says with a toe on something ve=
ry hot...*
It was more of an educated guess. =C2=A0I knew that I hadn't been promoting=
AP, yetsomebody was seemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying t=
hey were. =C2=A0Themost likely scenario, given that this person had contact=
ed me, is that he (they) weresimply trying to discredit me. =C2=A0To avoid =
that happening, and to 'kill two birds withone stone', I threw that hot pot=
ato to Andy Greenberg. =C2=A0(I was not at all happy with=C2=A0Greenberg, w=
ho greatly misrepresented 'facts' about me in his book). =C2=A0 I figuredth=
at Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, which would allow me t=
o usehis negligence to discredit him. =C2=A0Very surprisingly, to me, Green=
berg actually wrotean article and published in Forbes! =C2=A0Literally with=
in hours, many dozen other=C2=A0articles appeared in other media, and in th=
e end it probably was hundreds of articlesover the next year or so.
>>=C2=A0 Did any donations actually appear on the
>> system after its initial announcement?=C2=A0 Did any new names/targets a=
ppear?
>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,
>yet my attempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/
>maybe i didn't pay enough... ?
=C2=A0>=C2=A0https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi=
1GdZ4JZG73T
I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articles publishing =
details. =C2=A0But no,all the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenber=
g's. =C2=A0 So, I learned very little. =C2=A0ButI _DID_ learn that that sys=
tem wouldn't be successful: =C2=A0At the very least, it would have hadto co=
nvince the public that they could trust the system to operate reliably, and=
that neveroccurred.The only public criticism I voiced was the fact that th=
e system didn't accept individual donationslower than 1 BTC. =C2=A0Most peo=
ple would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quarter, ordollar into=
a wishing well. =C2=A0But nearly $1000? =C2=A0Highly unlikely. =C2=A0It wa=
s one choice that virtually=C2=A0guaranteed failure, even if everything els=
e was done right.=C2=A0I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Eth=
ereum, which if they meet their impliedpromises, will actually do the job.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_32521" class=3D"">From:</span></b> coderman &l=
t;coderman(a)gmail.com><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33783" class=
=3D""><b id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3053" class=3D""><sp=
an id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3052" class=3D"">To:</span=
></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1453193975825_33787" class=3D""><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33789"=
class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14=
53193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">On 1/14/16, jim bell <<a re=
l=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" style=3D"color: rgb(25, 106,=
212);" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33792" class=3D"">jdb10987(a)yahoo.c=
om</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33794"=
class=3D"">>> ... The main criticism I had<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33796" class=3D"">>> of this was the fact t=
hat the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33798" class=3D"">>> BTC, which at the tim=
e was somewhere around $1000. This, contrasting with<br clear=3D"none=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33800" class=3D"">>> my Assassinat=
ion Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing bits<br clear=3D=
"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33802" class=3D"">>> of 10 ce=
nts.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33804" class=3D"">&=
gt;> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered=
<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33806" class=3D"">>&=
gt; necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trus=
t the<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33808" class=3D"">=
>> system? How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?&nb=
sp; How to collect?I<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_338=
10" class=3D"">>> never tried to research into this, because I judged=
that to do so would be a<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145319397582=
5_33812" class=3D"">>> little too 'hot' for me to do.<br clear=3D"non=
e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33814" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33816" class=3D"">>i am curious how you a=
rrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)</div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;=
">>how do you pick where to draw that line?</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">>=
;*he says with a toe on something very hot...*</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33821" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">It was more of an educated guess. I knew that I hadn't=
been promoting AP, yet</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">somebody was s=
eemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying they were. The</d=
iv><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">most likely scenario, given that this p=
erson had contacted me, is that he (they) were</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size=
: 16px;">simply trying to discredit me. To avoid that happening, and =
to 'kill two birds with</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">one stone', I =
threw that hot potato to Andy Greenberg. (I was not at all happy with=
</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">Greenberg, who greatly misrepre=
sented 'facts' about me in his book). I figured</div><div class=3D""=
id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"f=
ont-size: 16px;">that Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, whi=
ch would allow me to use</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0=
_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">his negligenc=
e to discredit him. Very surprisingly, to me, Greenberg actually wrot=
e</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">an article and published in Forbes! =
Literally within hours, many dozen other </div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">articles appeared in other media, and in the end it probably=
was hundreds of articles</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">over the nex=
t year or so.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><div class=3D"" id=3D"yi=
v2501824522yqtfd97789"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_=
33836" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33838=
" class=3D"">>> Did any donations actually appear on the<br cle=
ar=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33840" class=3D"">>> sys=
tem after its initial announcement? Did any new names/targets appear?=
</div><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33842" class=3D""=
>>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,<br clea=
r=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33844" class=3D"">>yet my at=
tempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/<br clear=3D"none" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33846" class=3D"">>maybe i didn't pay enough=
... ?<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33848" class=3D"">=
> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG7=
3T" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3242" style=3D"color: rgb=
(25, 106, 212);" class=3D"">https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm=
6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG73T</a></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_=
3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33852" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font=
-size: 16px;">I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articl=
es publishing details. But no,</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">a=
ll the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenberg's. So, I learn=
ed very little. But</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">I _DID_ lear=
n that that system wouldn't be successful: At the very least, it woul=
d have had</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939758=
25_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">to convince the public that=
they could trust the system to operate reliably, and that never</div><div =
class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-size: 16px;">occurred.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">T=
he only public criticism I voiced was the fact that the system didn't accep=
t individual donations</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1=
_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">lower than 1 BT=
C. Most people would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quart=
er, or</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">dollar into a wishing well. &nb=
sp;But nearly $1000? Highly unlikely. It was one choice that vi=
rtually </div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">guaranteed failure, even=
if everything else was done right.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182452=
2yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">&n=
bsp;I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Ethereum, which if the=
y meet their implied</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1=
453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">promises, will ac=
tually do the job.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33865=
" class=3D""> Jim Bell<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33867" class=3D""><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182=
4522yqtfd92150" dir=3D"ltr"><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33870" cla=
ss=3D""></div></div></div></body></html>
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0
On 1/14/16, jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ... The main criticism I had
>> of this was the fact that the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1
>> BTC, which at the time was somewhere around $1000.=C2=A0 This, contrasti=
ng with
>> my Assassination Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing =
bits
>> of 10 cents.
>> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered
>> necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trust=
the
>> system?=C2=A0 How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?=C2=A0 Ho=
w to collect?I
>> never tried to research into this, because I judged that to do so would =
be a
>> little too 'hot' for me to do.
>i am curious how you arrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)>h=
ow do you pick where to draw that line?>*he says with a toe on something ve=
ry hot...*
It was more of an educated guess. =C2=A0I knew that I hadn't been promoting=
AP, yetsomebody was seemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying t=
hey were. =C2=A0Themost likely scenario, given that this person had contact=
ed me, is that he (they) weresimply trying to discredit me. =C2=A0To avoid =
that happening, and to 'kill two birds withone stone', I threw that hot pot=
ato to Andy Greenberg. =C2=A0(I was not at all happy with=C2=A0Greenberg, w=
ho greatly misrepresented 'facts' about me in his book). =C2=A0 I figuredth=
at Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, which would allow me t=
o usehis negligence to discredit him. =C2=A0Very surprisingly, to me, Green=
berg actually wrotean article and published in Forbes! =C2=A0Literally with=
in hours, many dozen other=C2=A0articles appeared in other media, and in th=
e end it probably was hundreds of articlesover the next year or so.
>>=C2=A0 Did any donations actually appear on the
>> system after its initial announcement?=C2=A0 Did any new names/targets a=
ppear?
>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,
>yet my attempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/
>maybe i didn't pay enough... ?
=C2=A0>=C2=A0https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi=
1GdZ4JZG73T
I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articles publishing =
details. =C2=A0But no,all the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenber=
g's. =C2=A0 So, I learned very little. =C2=A0ButI _DID_ learn that that sys=
tem wouldn't be successful: =C2=A0At the very least, it would have hadto co=
nvince the public that they could trust the system to operate reliably, and=
that neveroccurred.The only public criticism I voiced was the fact that th=
e system didn't accept individual donationslower than 1 BTC. =C2=A0Most peo=
ple would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quarter, ordollar into=
a wishing well. =C2=A0But nearly $1000? =C2=A0Highly unlikely. =C2=A0It wa=
s one choice that virtually=C2=A0guaranteed failure, even if everything els=
e was done right.=C2=A0I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Eth=
ereum, which if they meet their impliedpromises, will actually do the job.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
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_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_32521" class=3D"">From:</span></b> coderman &l=
t;coderman(a)gmail.com><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33783" class=
=3D""><b id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3053" class=3D""><sp=
an id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3052" class=3D"">To:</span=
></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1453193975825_33787" class=3D""><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33789"=
class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14=
53193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">On 1/14/16, jim bell <<a re=
l=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" style=3D"color: rgb(25, 106,=
212);" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33792" class=3D"">jdb10987(a)yahoo.c=
om</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33794"=
class=3D"">>> ... The main criticism I had<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33796" class=3D"">>> of this was the fact t=
hat the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33798" class=3D"">>> BTC, which at the tim=
e was somewhere around $1000. This, contrasting with<br clear=3D"none=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33800" class=3D"">>> my Assassinat=
ion Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing bits<br clear=3D=
"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33802" class=3D"">>> of 10 ce=
nts.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33804" class=3D"">&=
gt;> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered=
<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33806" class=3D"">>&=
gt; necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trus=
t the<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33808" class=3D"">=
>> system? How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?&nb=
sp; How to collect?I<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_338=
10" class=3D"">>> never tried to research into this, because I judged=
that to do so would be a<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145319397582=
5_33812" class=3D"">>> little too 'hot' for me to do.<br clear=3D"non=
e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33814" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33816" class=3D"">>i am curious how you a=
rrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)</div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;=
">>how do you pick where to draw that line?</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">>=
;*he says with a toe on something very hot...*</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33821" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">It was more of an educated guess. I knew that I hadn't=
been promoting AP, yet</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">somebody was s=
eemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying they were. The</d=
iv><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">most likely scenario, given that this p=
erson had contacted me, is that he (they) were</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size=
: 16px;">simply trying to discredit me. To avoid that happening, and =
to 'kill two birds with</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">one stone', I =
threw that hot potato to Andy Greenberg. (I was not at all happy with=
</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">Greenberg, who greatly misrepre=
sented 'facts' about me in his book). I figured</div><div class=3D""=
id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"f=
ont-size: 16px;">that Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, whi=
ch would allow me to use</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0=
_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">his negligenc=
e to discredit him. Very surprisingly, to me, Greenberg actually wrot=
e</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">an article and published in Forbes! =
Literally within hours, many dozen other </div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">articles appeared in other media, and in the end it probably=
was hundreds of articles</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">over the nex=
t year or so.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><div class=3D"" id=3D"yi=
v2501824522yqtfd97789"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_=
33836" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33838=
" class=3D"">>> Did any donations actually appear on the<br cle=
ar=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33840" class=3D"">>> sys=
tem after its initial announcement? Did any new names/targets appear?=
</div><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33842" class=3D""=
>>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,<br clea=
r=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33844" class=3D"">>yet my at=
tempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/<br clear=3D"none" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33846" class=3D"">>maybe i didn't pay enough=
... ?<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33848" class=3D"">=
> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG7=
3T" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3242" style=3D"color: rgb=
(25, 106, 212);" class=3D"">https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm=
6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG73T</a></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_=
3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33852" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font=
-size: 16px;">I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articl=
es publishing details. But no,</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">a=
ll the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenberg's. So, I learn=
ed very little. But</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">I _DID_ lear=
n that that system wouldn't be successful: At the very least, it woul=
d have had</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939758=
25_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">to convince the public that=
they could trust the system to operate reliably, and that never</div><div =
class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-size: 16px;">occurred.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">T=
he only public criticism I voiced was the fact that the system didn't accep=
t individual donations</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1=
_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">lower than 1 BT=
C. Most people would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quart=
er, or</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">dollar into a wishing well. &nb=
sp;But nearly $1000? Highly unlikely. It was one choice that vi=
rtually </div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">guaranteed failure, even=
if everything else was done right.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182452=
2yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">&n=
bsp;I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Ethereum, which if the=
y meet their implied</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1=
453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">promises, will ac=
tually do the job.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33865=
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On 1/14/16, jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ... The main criticism I had
>> of this was the fact that the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1
>> BTC, which at the time was somewhere around $1000.=C2=A0 This, contrasti=
ng with
>> my Assassination Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing =
bits
>> of 10 cents.
>> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered
>> necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trust=
the
>> system?=C2=A0 How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?=C2=A0 Ho=
w to collect?I
>> never tried to research into this, because I judged that to do so would =
be a
>> little too 'hot' for me to do.
>i am curious how you arrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)>h=
ow do you pick where to draw that line?>*he says with a toe on something ve=
ry hot...*
It was more of an educated guess. =C2=A0I knew that I hadn't been promoting=
AP, yetsomebody was seemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying t=
hey were. =C2=A0Themost likely scenario, given that this person had contact=
ed me, is that he (they) weresimply trying to discredit me. =C2=A0To avoid =
that happening, and to 'kill two birds withone stone', I threw that hot pot=
ato to Andy Greenberg. =C2=A0(I was not at all happy with=C2=A0Greenberg, w=
ho greatly misrepresented 'facts' about me in his book). =C2=A0 I figuredth=
at Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, which would allow me t=
o usehis negligence to discredit him. =C2=A0Very surprisingly, to me, Green=
berg actually wrotean article and published in Forbes! =C2=A0Literally with=
in hours, many dozen other=C2=A0articles appeared in other media, and in th=
e end it probably was hundreds of articlesover the next year or so.
>>=C2=A0 Did any donations actually appear on the
>> system after its initial announcement?=C2=A0 Did any new names/targets a=
ppear?
>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,
>yet my attempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/
>maybe i didn't pay enough... ?
=C2=A0>=C2=A0https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi=
1GdZ4JZG73T
I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articles publishing =
details. =C2=A0But no,all the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenber=
g's. =C2=A0 So, I learned very little. =C2=A0ButI _DID_ learn that that sys=
tem wouldn't be successful: =C2=A0At the very least, it would have hadto co=
nvince the public that they could trust the system to operate reliably, and=
that neveroccurred.The only public criticism I voiced was the fact that th=
e system didn't accept individual donationslower than 1 BTC. =C2=A0Most peo=
ple would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quarter, ordollar into=
a wishing well. =C2=A0But nearly $1000? =C2=A0Highly unlikely. =C2=A0It wa=
s one choice that virtually=C2=A0guaranteed failure, even if everything els=
e was done right.=C2=A0I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Eth=
ereum, which if they meet their impliedpromises, will actually do the job.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1=
_1453193975825_3000" style=3D"font-size: 16px;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2"=
face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2999" class=
=3D""><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_32522" class=3D""><span id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_32521" class=3D"">From:</span></b> coderman &l=
t;coderman(a)gmail.com><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33783" class=
=3D""><b id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3053" class=3D""><sp=
an id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3052" class=3D"">To:</span=
></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1453193975825_33787" class=3D""><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33789"=
class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14=
53193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">On 1/14/16, jim bell <<a re=
l=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" style=3D"color: rgb(25, 106,=
212);" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33792" class=3D"">jdb10987(a)yahoo.c=
om</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33794"=
class=3D"">>> ... The main criticism I had<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33796" class=3D"">>> of this was the fact t=
hat the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33798" class=3D"">>> BTC, which at the tim=
e was somewhere around $1000. This, contrasting with<br clear=3D"none=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33800" class=3D"">>> my Assassinat=
ion Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing bits<br clear=3D=
"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33802" class=3D"">>> of 10 ce=
nts.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33804" class=3D"">&=
gt;> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered=
<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33806" class=3D"">>&=
gt; necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trus=
t the<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33808" class=3D"">=
>> system? How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?&nb=
sp; How to collect?I<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_338=
10" class=3D"">>> never tried to research into this, because I judged=
that to do so would be a<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145319397582=
5_33812" class=3D"">>> little too 'hot' for me to do.<br clear=3D"non=
e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33814" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33816" class=3D"">>i am curious how you a=
rrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)</div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;=
">>how do you pick where to draw that line?</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">>=
;*he says with a toe on something very hot...*</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33821" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">It was more of an educated guess. I knew that I hadn't=
been promoting AP, yet</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">somebody was s=
eemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying they were. The</d=
iv><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">most likely scenario, given that this p=
erson had contacted me, is that he (they) were</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size=
: 16px;">simply trying to discredit me. To avoid that happening, and =
to 'kill two birds with</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">one stone', I =
threw that hot potato to Andy Greenberg. (I was not at all happy with=
</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">Greenberg, who greatly misrepre=
sented 'facts' about me in his book). I figured</div><div class=3D""=
id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"f=
ont-size: 16px;">that Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, whi=
ch would allow me to use</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0=
_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">his negligenc=
e to discredit him. Very surprisingly, to me, Greenberg actually wrot=
e</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">an article and published in Forbes! =
Literally within hours, many dozen other </div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">articles appeared in other media, and in the end it probably=
was hundreds of articles</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">over the nex=
t year or so.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><div class=3D"" id=3D"yi=
v2501824522yqtfd97789"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_=
33836" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33838=
" class=3D"">>> Did any donations actually appear on the<br cle=
ar=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33840" class=3D"">>> sys=
tem after its initial announcement? Did any new names/targets appear?=
</div><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33842" class=3D""=
>>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,<br clea=
r=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33844" class=3D"">>yet my at=
tempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/<br clear=3D"none" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33846" class=3D"">>maybe i didn't pay enough=
... ?<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33848" class=3D"">=
> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG7=
3T" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3242" style=3D"color: rgb=
(25, 106, 212);" class=3D"">https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm=
6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG73T</a></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_=
3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33852" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font=
-size: 16px;">I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articl=
es publishing details. But no,</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">a=
ll the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenberg's. So, I learn=
ed very little. But</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">I _DID_ lear=
n that that system wouldn't be successful: At the very least, it woul=
d have had</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939758=
25_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">to convince the public that=
they could trust the system to operate reliably, and that never</div><div =
class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-size: 16px;">occurred.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">T=
he only public criticism I voiced was the fact that the system didn't accep=
t individual donations</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1=
_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">lower than 1 BT=
C. Most people would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quart=
er, or</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">dollar into a wishing well. &nb=
sp;But nearly $1000? Highly unlikely. It was one choice that vi=
rtually </div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">guaranteed failure, even=
if everything else was done right.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182452=
2yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">&n=
bsp;I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Ethereum, which if the=
y meet their implied</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1=
453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">promises, will ac=
tually do the job.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33865=
" class=3D""> Jim Bell<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33867" class=3D""><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182=
4522yqtfd92150" dir=3D"ltr"><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33870" cla=
ss=3D""></div></div></div></body></html>
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On 1/14/16, jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ... The main criticism I had
>> of this was the fact that the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1
>> BTC, which at the time was somewhere around $1000.=C2=A0 This, contrasti=
ng with
>> my Assassination Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing =
bits
>> of 10 cents.
>> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered
>> necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trust=
the
>> system?=C2=A0 How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?=C2=A0 Ho=
w to collect?I
>> never tried to research into this, because I judged that to do so would =
be a
>> little too 'hot' for me to do.
>i am curious how you arrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)>h=
ow do you pick where to draw that line?>*he says with a toe on something ve=
ry hot...*
It was more of an educated guess. =C2=A0I knew that I hadn't been promoting=
AP, yetsomebody was seemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying t=
hey were. =C2=A0Themost likely scenario, given that this person had contact=
ed me, is that he (they) weresimply trying to discredit me. =C2=A0To avoid =
that happening, and to 'kill two birds withone stone', I threw that hot pot=
ato to Andy Greenberg. =C2=A0(I was not at all happy with=C2=A0Greenberg, w=
ho greatly misrepresented 'facts' about me in his book). =C2=A0 I figuredth=
at Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, which would allow me t=
o usehis negligence to discredit him. =C2=A0Very surprisingly, to me, Green=
berg actually wrotean article and published in Forbes! =C2=A0Literally with=
in hours, many dozen other=C2=A0articles appeared in other media, and in th=
e end it probably was hundreds of articlesover the next year or so.
>>=C2=A0 Did any donations actually appear on the
>> system after its initial announcement?=C2=A0 Did any new names/targets a=
ppear?
>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,
>yet my attempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/
>maybe i didn't pay enough... ?
=C2=A0>=C2=A0https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi=
1GdZ4JZG73T
I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articles publishing =
details. =C2=A0But no,all the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenber=
g's. =C2=A0 So, I learned very little. =C2=A0ButI _DID_ learn that that sys=
tem wouldn't be successful: =C2=A0At the very least, it would have hadto co=
nvince the public that they could trust the system to operate reliably, and=
that neveroccurred.The only public criticism I voiced was the fact that th=
e system didn't accept individual donationslower than 1 BTC. =C2=A0Most peo=
ple would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quarter, ordollar into=
a wishing well. =C2=A0But nearly $1000? =C2=A0Highly unlikely. =C2=A0It wa=
s one choice that virtually=C2=A0guaranteed failure, even if everything els=
e was done right.=C2=A0I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Eth=
ereum, which if they meet their impliedpromises, will actually do the job.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_32521" class=3D"">From:</span></b> coderman &l=
t;coderman(a)gmail.com><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33783" class=
=3D""><b id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3053" class=3D""><sp=
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></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1453193975825_33787" class=3D""><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33789"=
class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14=
53193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">On 1/14/16, jim bell <<a re=
l=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" style=3D"color: rgb(25, 106,=
212);" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33792" class=3D"">jdb10987(a)yahoo.c=
om</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33794"=
class=3D"">>> ... The main criticism I had<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33796" class=3D"">>> of this was the fact t=
hat the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33798" class=3D"">>> BTC, which at the tim=
e was somewhere around $1000. This, contrasting with<br clear=3D"none=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33800" class=3D"">>> my Assassinat=
ion Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing bits<br clear=3D=
"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33802" class=3D"">>> of 10 ce=
nts.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33804" class=3D"">&=
gt;> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered=
<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33806" class=3D"">>&=
gt; necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trus=
t the<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33808" class=3D"">=
>> system? How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?&nb=
sp; How to collect?I<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_338=
10" class=3D"">>> never tried to research into this, because I judged=
that to do so would be a<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145319397582=
5_33812" class=3D"">>> little too 'hot' for me to do.<br clear=3D"non=
e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33814" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33816" class=3D"">>i am curious how you a=
rrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)</div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;=
">>how do you pick where to draw that line?</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">>=
;*he says with a toe on something very hot...*</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33821" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">It was more of an educated guess. I knew that I hadn't=
been promoting AP, yet</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">somebody was s=
eemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying they were. The</d=
iv><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">most likely scenario, given that this p=
erson had contacted me, is that he (they) were</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size=
: 16px;">simply trying to discredit me. To avoid that happening, and =
to 'kill two birds with</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">one stone', I =
threw that hot potato to Andy Greenberg. (I was not at all happy with=
</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">Greenberg, who greatly misrepre=
sented 'facts' about me in his book). I figured</div><div class=3D""=
id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"f=
ont-size: 16px;">that Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, whi=
ch would allow me to use</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0=
_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">his negligenc=
e to discredit him. Very surprisingly, to me, Greenberg actually wrot=
e</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">an article and published in Forbes! =
Literally within hours, many dozen other </div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">articles appeared in other media, and in the end it probably=
was hundreds of articles</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">over the nex=
t year or so.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><div class=3D"" id=3D"yi=
v2501824522yqtfd97789"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_=
33836" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33838=
" class=3D"">>> Did any donations actually appear on the<br cle=
ar=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33840" class=3D"">>> sys=
tem after its initial announcement? Did any new names/targets appear?=
</div><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33842" class=3D""=
>>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,<br clea=
r=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33844" class=3D"">>yet my at=
tempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/<br clear=3D"none" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33846" class=3D"">>maybe i didn't pay enough=
... ?<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33848" class=3D"">=
> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG7=
3T" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3242" style=3D"color: rgb=
(25, 106, 212);" class=3D"">https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm=
6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG73T</a></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_=
3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33852" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font=
-size: 16px;">I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articl=
es publishing details. But no,</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">a=
ll the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenberg's. So, I learn=
ed very little. But</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">I _DID_ lear=
n that that system wouldn't be successful: At the very least, it woul=
d have had</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939758=
25_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">to convince the public that=
they could trust the system to operate reliably, and that never</div><div =
class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-size: 16px;">occurred.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">T=
he only public criticism I voiced was the fact that the system didn't accep=
t individual donations</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1=
_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">lower than 1 BT=
C. Most people would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quart=
er, or</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">dollar into a wishing well. &nb=
sp;But nearly $1000? Highly unlikely. It was one choice that vi=
rtually </div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">guaranteed failure, even=
if everything else was done right.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182452=
2yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">&n=
bsp;I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Ethereum, which if the=
y meet their implied</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1=
453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">promises, will ac=
tually do the job.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33865=
" class=3D""> Jim Bell<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33867" class=3D""><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182=
4522yqtfd92150" dir=3D"ltr"><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33870" cla=
ss=3D""></div></div></div></body></html>
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0
On 1/14/16, jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ... The main criticism I had
>> of this was the fact that the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1
>> BTC, which at the time was somewhere around $1000.=C2=A0 This, contrasti=
ng with
>> my Assassination Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing =
bits
>> of 10 cents.
>> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered
>> necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trust=
the
>> system?=C2=A0 How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?=C2=A0 Ho=
w to collect?I
>> never tried to research into this, because I judged that to do so would =
be a
>> little too 'hot' for me to do.
>i am curious how you arrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)>h=
ow do you pick where to draw that line?>*he says with a toe on something ve=
ry hot...*
It was more of an educated guess. =C2=A0I knew that I hadn't been promoting=
AP, yetsomebody was seemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying t=
hey were. =C2=A0Themost likely scenario, given that this person had contact=
ed me, is that he (they) weresimply trying to discredit me. =C2=A0To avoid =
that happening, and to 'kill two birds withone stone', I threw that hot pot=
ato to Andy Greenberg. =C2=A0(I was not at all happy with=C2=A0Greenberg, w=
ho greatly misrepresented 'facts' about me in his book). =C2=A0 I figuredth=
at Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, which would allow me t=
o usehis negligence to discredit him. =C2=A0Very surprisingly, to me, Green=
berg actually wrotean article and published in Forbes! =C2=A0Literally with=
in hours, many dozen other=C2=A0articles appeared in other media, and in th=
e end it probably was hundreds of articlesover the next year or so.
>>=C2=A0 Did any donations actually appear on the
>> system after its initial announcement?=C2=A0 Did any new names/targets a=
ppear?
>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,
>yet my attempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/
>maybe i didn't pay enough... ?
=C2=A0>=C2=A0https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi=
1GdZ4JZG73T
I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articles publishing =
details. =C2=A0But no,all the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenber=
g's. =C2=A0 So, I learned very little. =C2=A0ButI _DID_ learn that that sys=
tem wouldn't be successful: =C2=A0At the very least, it would have hadto co=
nvince the public that they could trust the system to operate reliably, and=
that neveroccurred.The only public criticism I voiced was the fact that th=
e system didn't accept individual donationslower than 1 BTC. =C2=A0Most peo=
ple would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quarter, ordollar into=
a wishing well. =C2=A0But nearly $1000? =C2=A0Highly unlikely. =C2=A0It wa=
s one choice that virtually=C2=A0guaranteed failure, even if everything els=
e was done right.=C2=A0I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Eth=
ereum, which if they meet their impliedpromises, will actually do the job.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_32521" class=3D"">From:</span></b> coderman &l=
t;coderman(a)gmail.com><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33783" class=
=3D""><b id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3053" class=3D""><sp=
an id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3052" class=3D"">To:</span=
></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1453193975825_33787" class=3D""><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33789"=
class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14=
53193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">On 1/14/16, jim bell <<a re=
l=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" style=3D"color: rgb(25, 106,=
212);" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33792" class=3D"">jdb10987(a)yahoo.c=
om</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33794"=
class=3D"">>> ... The main criticism I had<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33796" class=3D"">>> of this was the fact t=
hat the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33798" class=3D"">>> BTC, which at the tim=
e was somewhere around $1000. This, contrasting with<br clear=3D"none=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33800" class=3D"">>> my Assassinat=
ion Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing bits<br clear=3D=
"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33802" class=3D"">>> of 10 ce=
nts.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33804" class=3D"">&=
gt;> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered=
<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33806" class=3D"">>&=
gt; necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trus=
t the<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33808" class=3D"">=
>> system? How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?&nb=
sp; How to collect?I<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_338=
10" class=3D"">>> never tried to research into this, because I judged=
that to do so would be a<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145319397582=
5_33812" class=3D"">>> little too 'hot' for me to do.<br clear=3D"non=
e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33814" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33816" class=3D"">>i am curious how you a=
rrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)</div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;=
">>how do you pick where to draw that line?</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">>=
;*he says with a toe on something very hot...*</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33821" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">It was more of an educated guess. I knew that I hadn't=
been promoting AP, yet</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">somebody was s=
eemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying they were. The</d=
iv><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">most likely scenario, given that this p=
erson had contacted me, is that he (they) were</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size=
: 16px;">simply trying to discredit me. To avoid that happening, and =
to 'kill two birds with</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">one stone', I =
threw that hot potato to Andy Greenberg. (I was not at all happy with=
</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">Greenberg, who greatly misrepre=
sented 'facts' about me in his book). I figured</div><div class=3D""=
id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"f=
ont-size: 16px;">that Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, whi=
ch would allow me to use</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0=
_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">his negligenc=
e to discredit him. Very surprisingly, to me, Greenberg actually wrot=
e</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">an article and published in Forbes! =
Literally within hours, many dozen other </div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">articles appeared in other media, and in the end it probably=
was hundreds of articles</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">over the nex=
t year or so.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><div class=3D"" id=3D"yi=
v2501824522yqtfd97789"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_=
33836" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33838=
" class=3D"">>> Did any donations actually appear on the<br cle=
ar=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33840" class=3D"">>> sys=
tem after its initial announcement? Did any new names/targets appear?=
</div><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33842" class=3D""=
>>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,<br clea=
r=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33844" class=3D"">>yet my at=
tempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/<br clear=3D"none" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33846" class=3D"">>maybe i didn't pay enough=
... ?<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33848" class=3D"">=
> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG7=
3T" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3242" style=3D"color: rgb=
(25, 106, 212);" class=3D"">https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm=
6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG73T</a></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_=
3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33852" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font=
-size: 16px;">I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articl=
es publishing details. But no,</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">a=
ll the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenberg's. So, I learn=
ed very little. But</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">I _DID_ lear=
n that that system wouldn't be successful: At the very least, it woul=
d have had</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939758=
25_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">to convince the public that=
they could trust the system to operate reliably, and that never</div><div =
class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-size: 16px;">occurred.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">T=
he only public criticism I voiced was the fact that the system didn't accep=
t individual donations</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1=
_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">lower than 1 BT=
C. Most people would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quart=
er, or</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">dollar into a wishing well. &nb=
sp;But nearly $1000? Highly unlikely. It was one choice that vi=
rtually </div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">guaranteed failure, even=
if everything else was done right.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182452=
2yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">&n=
bsp;I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Ethereum, which if the=
y meet their implied</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1=
453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">promises, will ac=
tually do the job.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33865=
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0
On 1/14/16, jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ... The main criticism I had
>> of this was the fact that the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1
>> BTC, which at the time was somewhere around $1000.=C2=A0 This, contrasti=
ng with
>> my Assassination Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing =
bits
>> of 10 cents.
>> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered
>> necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trust=
the
>> system?=C2=A0 How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?=C2=A0 Ho=
w to collect?I
>> never tried to research into this, because I judged that to do so would =
be a
>> little too 'hot' for me to do.
>i am curious how you arrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)>h=
ow do you pick where to draw that line?>*he says with a toe on something ve=
ry hot...*
It was more of an educated guess. =C2=A0I knew that I hadn't been promoting=
AP, yetsomebody was seemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying t=
hey were. =C2=A0Themost likely scenario, given that this person had contact=
ed me, is that he (they) weresimply trying to discredit me. =C2=A0To avoid =
that happening, and to 'kill two birds withone stone', I threw that hot pot=
ato to Andy Greenberg. =C2=A0(I was not at all happy with=C2=A0Greenberg, w=
ho greatly misrepresented 'facts' about me in his book). =C2=A0 I figuredth=
at Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, which would allow me t=
o usehis negligence to discredit him. =C2=A0Very surprisingly, to me, Green=
berg actually wrotean article and published in Forbes! =C2=A0Literally with=
in hours, many dozen other=C2=A0articles appeared in other media, and in th=
e end it probably was hundreds of articlesover the next year or so.
>>=C2=A0 Did any donations actually appear on the
>> system after its initial announcement?=C2=A0 Did any new names/targets a=
ppear?
>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,
>yet my attempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/
>maybe i didn't pay enough... ?
=C2=A0>=C2=A0https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi=
1GdZ4JZG73T
I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articles publishing =
details. =C2=A0But no,all the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenber=
g's. =C2=A0 So, I learned very little. =C2=A0ButI _DID_ learn that that sys=
tem wouldn't be successful: =C2=A0At the very least, it would have hadto co=
nvince the public that they could trust the system to operate reliably, and=
that neveroccurred.The only public criticism I voiced was the fact that th=
e system didn't accept individual donationslower than 1 BTC. =C2=A0Most peo=
ple would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quarter, ordollar into=
a wishing well. =C2=A0But nearly $1000? =C2=A0Highly unlikely. =C2=A0It wa=
s one choice that virtually=C2=A0guaranteed failure, even if everything els=
e was done right.=C2=A0I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Eth=
ereum, which if they meet their impliedpromises, will actually do the job.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1=
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=3D""><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_32522" class=3D""><span id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_32521" class=3D"">From:</span></b> coderman &l=
t;coderman(a)gmail.com><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33783" class=
=3D""><b id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3053" class=3D""><sp=
an id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3052" class=3D"">To:</span=
></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1453193975825_33787" class=3D""><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33789"=
class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14=
53193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">On 1/14/16, jim bell <<a re=
l=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" style=3D"color: rgb(25, 106,=
212);" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33792" class=3D"">jdb10987(a)yahoo.c=
om</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33794"=
class=3D"">>> ... The main criticism I had<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33796" class=3D"">>> of this was the fact t=
hat the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33798" class=3D"">>> BTC, which at the tim=
e was somewhere around $1000. This, contrasting with<br clear=3D"none=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33800" class=3D"">>> my Assassinat=
ion Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing bits<br clear=3D=
"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33802" class=3D"">>> of 10 ce=
nts.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33804" class=3D"">&=
gt;> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered=
<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33806" class=3D"">>&=
gt; necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trus=
t the<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33808" class=3D"">=
>> system? How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?&nb=
sp; How to collect?I<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_338=
10" class=3D"">>> never tried to research into this, because I judged=
that to do so would be a<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145319397582=
5_33812" class=3D"">>> little too 'hot' for me to do.<br clear=3D"non=
e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33814" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33816" class=3D"">>i am curious how you a=
rrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)</div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;=
">>how do you pick where to draw that line?</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">>=
;*he says with a toe on something very hot...*</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33821" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">It was more of an educated guess. I knew that I hadn't=
been promoting AP, yet</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">somebody was s=
eemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying they were. The</d=
iv><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">most likely scenario, given that this p=
erson had contacted me, is that he (they) were</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size=
: 16px;">simply trying to discredit me. To avoid that happening, and =
to 'kill two birds with</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">one stone', I =
threw that hot potato to Andy Greenberg. (I was not at all happy with=
</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">Greenberg, who greatly misrepre=
sented 'facts' about me in his book). I figured</div><div class=3D""=
id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"f=
ont-size: 16px;">that Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, whi=
ch would allow me to use</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0=
_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">his negligenc=
e to discredit him. Very surprisingly, to me, Greenberg actually wrot=
e</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">an article and published in Forbes! =
Literally within hours, many dozen other </div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">articles appeared in other media, and in the end it probably=
was hundreds of articles</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">over the nex=
t year or so.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><div class=3D"" id=3D"yi=
v2501824522yqtfd97789"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_=
33836" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33838=
" class=3D"">>> Did any donations actually appear on the<br cle=
ar=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33840" class=3D"">>> sys=
tem after its initial announcement? Did any new names/targets appear?=
</div><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33842" class=3D""=
>>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,<br clea=
r=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33844" class=3D"">>yet my at=
tempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/<br clear=3D"none" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33846" class=3D"">>maybe i didn't pay enough=
... ?<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33848" class=3D"">=
> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG7=
3T" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3242" style=3D"color: rgb=
(25, 106, 212);" class=3D"">https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm=
6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG73T</a></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_=
3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33852" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font=
-size: 16px;">I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articl=
es publishing details. But no,</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">a=
ll the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenberg's. So, I learn=
ed very little. But</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">I _DID_ lear=
n that that system wouldn't be successful: At the very least, it woul=
d have had</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939758=
25_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">to convince the public that=
they could trust the system to operate reliably, and that never</div><div =
class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-size: 16px;">occurred.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">T=
he only public criticism I voiced was the fact that the system didn't accep=
t individual donations</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1=
_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">lower than 1 BT=
C. Most people would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quart=
er, or</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">dollar into a wishing well. &nb=
sp;But nearly $1000? Highly unlikely. It was one choice that vi=
rtually </div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">guaranteed failure, even=
if everything else was done right.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182452=
2yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">&n=
bsp;I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Ethereum, which if the=
y meet their implied</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1=
453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">promises, will ac=
tually do the job.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33865=
" class=3D""> Jim Bell<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33867" class=3D""><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182=
4522yqtfd92150" dir=3D"ltr"><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33870" cla=
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On 1/14/16, jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ... The main criticism I had
>> of this was the fact that the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1
>> BTC, which at the time was somewhere around $1000.=C2=A0 This, contrasti=
ng with
>> my Assassination Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing =
bits
>> of 10 cents.
>> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered
>> necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trust=
the
>> system?=C2=A0 How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?=C2=A0 Ho=
w to collect?I
>> never tried to research into this, because I judged that to do so would =
be a
>> little too 'hot' for me to do.
>i am curious how you arrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)>h=
ow do you pick where to draw that line?>*he says with a toe on something ve=
ry hot...*
It was more of an educated guess. =C2=A0I knew that I hadn't been promoting=
AP, yetsomebody was seemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying t=
hey were. =C2=A0Themost likely scenario, given that this person had contact=
ed me, is that he (they) weresimply trying to discredit me. =C2=A0To avoid =
that happening, and to 'kill two birds withone stone', I threw that hot pot=
ato to Andy Greenberg. =C2=A0(I was not at all happy with=C2=A0Greenberg, w=
ho greatly misrepresented 'facts' about me in his book). =C2=A0 I figuredth=
at Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, which would allow me t=
o usehis negligence to discredit him. =C2=A0Very surprisingly, to me, Green=
berg actually wrotean article and published in Forbes! =C2=A0Literally with=
in hours, many dozen other=C2=A0articles appeared in other media, and in th=
e end it probably was hundreds of articlesover the next year or so.
>>=C2=A0 Did any donations actually appear on the
>> system after its initial announcement?=C2=A0 Did any new names/targets a=
ppear?
>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,
>yet my attempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/
>maybe i didn't pay enough... ?
=C2=A0>=C2=A0https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi=
1GdZ4JZG73T
I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articles publishing =
details. =C2=A0But no,all the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenber=
g's. =C2=A0 So, I learned very little. =C2=A0ButI _DID_ learn that that sys=
tem wouldn't be successful: =C2=A0At the very least, it would have hadto co=
nvince the public that they could trust the system to operate reliably, and=
that neveroccurred.The only public criticism I voiced was the fact that th=
e system didn't accept individual donationslower than 1 BTC. =C2=A0Most peo=
ple would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quarter, ordollar into=
a wishing well. =C2=A0But nearly $1000? =C2=A0Highly unlikely. =C2=A0It wa=
s one choice that virtually=C2=A0guaranteed failure, even if everything els=
e was done right.=C2=A0I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Eth=
ereum, which if they meet their impliedpromises, will actually do the job.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1=
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_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_32521" class=3D"">From:</span></b> coderman &l=
t;coderman(a)gmail.com><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33783" class=
=3D""><b id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3053" class=3D""><sp=
an id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3052" class=3D"">To:</span=
></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1453193975825_33787" class=3D""><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33789"=
class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14=
53193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">On 1/14/16, jim bell <<a re=
l=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" style=3D"color: rgb(25, 106,=
212);" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33792" class=3D"">jdb10987(a)yahoo.c=
om</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33794"=
class=3D"">>> ... The main criticism I had<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33796" class=3D"">>> of this was the fact t=
hat the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33798" class=3D"">>> BTC, which at the tim=
e was somewhere around $1000. This, contrasting with<br clear=3D"none=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33800" class=3D"">>> my Assassinat=
ion Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing bits<br clear=3D=
"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33802" class=3D"">>> of 10 ce=
nts.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33804" class=3D"">&=
gt;> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered=
<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33806" class=3D"">>&=
gt; necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trus=
t the<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33808" class=3D"">=
>> system? How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?&nb=
sp; How to collect?I<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_338=
10" class=3D"">>> never tried to research into this, because I judged=
that to do so would be a<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145319397582=
5_33812" class=3D"">>> little too 'hot' for me to do.<br clear=3D"non=
e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33814" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33816" class=3D"">>i am curious how you a=
rrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)</div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;=
">>how do you pick where to draw that line?</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">>=
;*he says with a toe on something very hot...*</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33821" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">It was more of an educated guess. I knew that I hadn't=
been promoting AP, yet</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">somebody was s=
eemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying they were. The</d=
iv><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">most likely scenario, given that this p=
erson had contacted me, is that he (they) were</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size=
: 16px;">simply trying to discredit me. To avoid that happening, and =
to 'kill two birds with</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">one stone', I =
threw that hot potato to Andy Greenberg. (I was not at all happy with=
</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">Greenberg, who greatly misrepre=
sented 'facts' about me in his book). I figured</div><div class=3D""=
id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"f=
ont-size: 16px;">that Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, whi=
ch would allow me to use</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0=
_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">his negligenc=
e to discredit him. Very surprisingly, to me, Greenberg actually wrot=
e</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">an article and published in Forbes! =
Literally within hours, many dozen other </div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">articles appeared in other media, and in the end it probably=
was hundreds of articles</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">over the nex=
t year or so.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><div class=3D"" id=3D"yi=
v2501824522yqtfd97789"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_=
33836" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33838=
" class=3D"">>> Did any donations actually appear on the<br cle=
ar=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33840" class=3D"">>> sys=
tem after its initial announcement? Did any new names/targets appear?=
</div><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33842" class=3D""=
>>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,<br clea=
r=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33844" class=3D"">>yet my at=
tempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/<br clear=3D"none" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33846" class=3D"">>maybe i didn't pay enough=
... ?<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33848" class=3D"">=
> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG7=
3T" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3242" style=3D"color: rgb=
(25, 106, 212);" class=3D"">https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm=
6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG73T</a></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_=
3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33852" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font=
-size: 16px;">I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articl=
es publishing details. But no,</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">a=
ll the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenberg's. So, I learn=
ed very little. But</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">I _DID_ lear=
n that that system wouldn't be successful: At the very least, it woul=
d have had</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939758=
25_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">to convince the public that=
they could trust the system to operate reliably, and that never</div><div =
class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-size: 16px;">occurred.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">T=
he only public criticism I voiced was the fact that the system didn't accep=
t individual donations</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1=
_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">lower than 1 BT=
C. Most people would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quart=
er, or</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">dollar into a wishing well. &nb=
sp;But nearly $1000? Highly unlikely. It was one choice that vi=
rtually </div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">guaranteed failure, even=
if everything else was done right.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182452=
2yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">&n=
bsp;I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Ethereum, which if the=
y meet their implied</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1=
453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">promises, will ac=
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On 1/14/16, jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ... The main criticism I had
>> of this was the fact that the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1
>> BTC, which at the time was somewhere around $1000.=C2=A0 This, contrasti=
ng with
>> my Assassination Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing =
bits
>> of 10 cents.
>> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered
>> necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trust=
the
>> system?=C2=A0 How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?=C2=A0 Ho=
w to collect?I
>> never tried to research into this, because I judged that to do so would =
be a
>> little too 'hot' for me to do.
>i am curious how you arrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)>h=
ow do you pick where to draw that line?>*he says with a toe on something ve=
ry hot...*
It was more of an educated guess. =C2=A0I knew that I hadn't been promoting=
AP, yetsomebody was seemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying t=
hey were. =C2=A0Themost likely scenario, given that this person had contact=
ed me, is that he (they) weresimply trying to discredit me. =C2=A0To avoid =
that happening, and to 'kill two birds withone stone', I threw that hot pot=
ato to Andy Greenberg. =C2=A0(I was not at all happy with=C2=A0Greenberg, w=
ho greatly misrepresented 'facts' about me in his book). =C2=A0 I figuredth=
at Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, which would allow me t=
o usehis negligence to discredit him. =C2=A0Very surprisingly, to me, Green=
berg actually wrotean article and published in Forbes! =C2=A0Literally with=
in hours, many dozen other=C2=A0articles appeared in other media, and in th=
e end it probably was hundreds of articlesover the next year or so.
>>=C2=A0 Did any donations actually appear on the
>> system after its initial announcement?=C2=A0 Did any new names/targets a=
ppear?
>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,
>yet my attempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/
>maybe i didn't pay enough... ?
=C2=A0>=C2=A0https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi=
1GdZ4JZG73T
I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articles publishing =
details. =C2=A0But no,all the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenber=
g's. =C2=A0 So, I learned very little. =C2=A0ButI _DID_ learn that that sys=
tem wouldn't be successful: =C2=A0At the very least, it would have hadto co=
nvince the public that they could trust the system to operate reliably, and=
that neveroccurred.The only public criticism I voiced was the fact that th=
e system didn't accept individual donationslower than 1 BTC. =C2=A0Most peo=
ple would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quarter, ordollar into=
a wishing well. =C2=A0But nearly $1000? =C2=A0Highly unlikely. =C2=A0It wa=
s one choice that virtually=C2=A0guaranteed failure, even if everything els=
e was done right.=C2=A0I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Eth=
ereum, which if they meet their impliedpromises, will actually do the job.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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=3D""><b id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3053" class=3D""><sp=
an id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3052" class=3D"">To:</span=
></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1453193975825_33787" class=3D""><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33789"=
class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14=
53193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">On 1/14/16, jim bell <<a re=
l=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" style=3D"color: rgb(25, 106,=
212);" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33792" class=3D"">jdb10987(a)yahoo.c=
om</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33794"=
class=3D"">>> ... The main criticism I had<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33796" class=3D"">>> of this was the fact t=
hat the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33798" class=3D"">>> BTC, which at the tim=
e was somewhere around $1000. This, contrasting with<br clear=3D"none=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33800" class=3D"">>> my Assassinat=
ion Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing bits<br clear=3D=
"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33802" class=3D"">>> of 10 ce=
nts.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33804" class=3D"">&=
gt;> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered=
<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33806" class=3D"">>&=
gt; necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trus=
t the<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33808" class=3D"">=
>> system? How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?&nb=
sp; How to collect?I<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_338=
10" class=3D"">>> never tried to research into this, because I judged=
that to do so would be a<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145319397582=
5_33812" class=3D"">>> little too 'hot' for me to do.<br clear=3D"non=
e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33814" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33816" class=3D"">>i am curious how you a=
rrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)</div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;=
">>how do you pick where to draw that line?</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">>=
;*he says with a toe on something very hot...*</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33821" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">It was more of an educated guess. I knew that I hadn't=
been promoting AP, yet</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">somebody was s=
eemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying they were. The</d=
iv><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">most likely scenario, given that this p=
erson had contacted me, is that he (they) were</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size=
: 16px;">simply trying to discredit me. To avoid that happening, and =
to 'kill two birds with</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">one stone', I =
threw that hot potato to Andy Greenberg. (I was not at all happy with=
</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">Greenberg, who greatly misrepre=
sented 'facts' about me in his book). I figured</div><div class=3D""=
id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"f=
ont-size: 16px;">that Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, whi=
ch would allow me to use</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0=
_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">his negligenc=
e to discredit him. Very surprisingly, to me, Greenberg actually wrot=
e</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">an article and published in Forbes! =
Literally within hours, many dozen other </div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">articles appeared in other media, and in the end it probably=
was hundreds of articles</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">over the nex=
t year or so.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><div class=3D"" id=3D"yi=
v2501824522yqtfd97789"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_=
33836" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33838=
" class=3D"">>> Did any donations actually appear on the<br cle=
ar=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33840" class=3D"">>> sys=
tem after its initial announcement? Did any new names/targets appear?=
</div><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33842" class=3D""=
>>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,<br clea=
r=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33844" class=3D"">>yet my at=
tempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/<br clear=3D"none" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33846" class=3D"">>maybe i didn't pay enough=
... ?<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33848" class=3D"">=
> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG7=
3T" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3242" style=3D"color: rgb=
(25, 106, 212);" class=3D"">https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm=
6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG73T</a></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_=
3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33852" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font=
-size: 16px;">I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articl=
es publishing details. But no,</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">a=
ll the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenberg's. So, I learn=
ed very little. But</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">I _DID_ lear=
n that that system wouldn't be successful: At the very least, it woul=
d have had</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939758=
25_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">to convince the public that=
they could trust the system to operate reliably, and that never</div><div =
class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-size: 16px;">occurred.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">T=
he only public criticism I voiced was the fact that the system didn't accep=
t individual donations</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1=
_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">lower than 1 BT=
C. Most people would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quart=
er, or</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">dollar into a wishing well. &nb=
sp;But nearly $1000? Highly unlikely. It was one choice that vi=
rtually </div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">guaranteed failure, even=
if everything else was done right.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182452=
2yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">&n=
bsp;I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Ethereum, which if the=
y meet their implied</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1=
453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">promises, will ac=
tually do the job.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33865=
" class=3D""> Jim Bell<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
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On 1/14/16, jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ... The main criticism I had
>> of this was the fact that the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1
>> BTC, which at the time was somewhere around $1000.=C2=A0 This, contrasti=
ng with
>> my Assassination Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing =
bits
>> of 10 cents.
>> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered
>> necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trust=
the
>> system?=C2=A0 How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?=C2=A0 Ho=
w to collect?I
>> never tried to research into this, because I judged that to do so would =
be a
>> little too 'hot' for me to do.
>i am curious how you arrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)>h=
ow do you pick where to draw that line?>*he says with a toe on something ve=
ry hot...*
It was more of an educated guess. =C2=A0I knew that I hadn't been promoting=
AP, yetsomebody was seemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying t=
hey were. =C2=A0Themost likely scenario, given that this person had contact=
ed me, is that he (they) weresimply trying to discredit me. =C2=A0To avoid =
that happening, and to 'kill two birds withone stone', I threw that hot pot=
ato to Andy Greenberg. =C2=A0(I was not at all happy with=C2=A0Greenberg, w=
ho greatly misrepresented 'facts' about me in his book). =C2=A0 I figuredth=
at Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, which would allow me t=
o usehis negligence to discredit him. =C2=A0Very surprisingly, to me, Green=
berg actually wrotean article and published in Forbes! =C2=A0Literally with=
in hours, many dozen other=C2=A0articles appeared in other media, and in th=
e end it probably was hundreds of articlesover the next year or so.
>>=C2=A0 Did any donations actually appear on the
>> system after its initial announcement?=C2=A0 Did any new names/targets a=
ppear?
>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,
>yet my attempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/
>maybe i didn't pay enough... ?
=C2=A0>=C2=A0https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi=
1GdZ4JZG73T
I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articles publishing =
details. =C2=A0But no,all the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenber=
g's. =C2=A0 So, I learned very little. =C2=A0ButI _DID_ learn that that sys=
tem wouldn't be successful: =C2=A0At the very least, it would have hadto co=
nvince the public that they could trust the system to operate reliably, and=
that neveroccurred.The only public criticism I voiced was the fact that th=
e system didn't accept individual donationslower than 1 BTC. =C2=A0Most peo=
ple would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quarter, ordollar into=
a wishing well. =C2=A0But nearly $1000? =C2=A0Highly unlikely. =C2=A0It wa=
s one choice that virtually=C2=A0guaranteed failure, even if everything els=
e was done right.=C2=A0I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Eth=
ereum, which if they meet their impliedpromises, will actually do the job.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_32521" class=3D"">From:</span></b> coderman &l=
t;coderman(a)gmail.com><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33783" class=
=3D""><b id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3053" class=3D""><sp=
an id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3052" class=3D"">To:</span=
></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1453193975825_33787" class=3D""><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33789"=
class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14=
53193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">On 1/14/16, jim bell <<a re=
l=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" style=3D"color: rgb(25, 106,=
212);" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33792" class=3D"">jdb10987(a)yahoo.c=
om</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33794"=
class=3D"">>> ... The main criticism I had<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33796" class=3D"">>> of this was the fact t=
hat the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33798" class=3D"">>> BTC, which at the tim=
e was somewhere around $1000. This, contrasting with<br clear=3D"none=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33800" class=3D"">>> my Assassinat=
ion Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing bits<br clear=3D=
"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33802" class=3D"">>> of 10 ce=
nts.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33804" class=3D"">&=
gt;> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered=
<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33806" class=3D"">>&=
gt; necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trus=
t the<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33808" class=3D"">=
>> system? How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?&nb=
sp; How to collect?I<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_338=
10" class=3D"">>> never tried to research into this, because I judged=
that to do so would be a<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145319397582=
5_33812" class=3D"">>> little too 'hot' for me to do.<br clear=3D"non=
e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33814" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33816" class=3D"">>i am curious how you a=
rrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)</div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;=
">>how do you pick where to draw that line?</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">>=
;*he says with a toe on something very hot...*</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33821" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">It was more of an educated guess. I knew that I hadn't=
been promoting AP, yet</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">somebody was s=
eemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying they were. The</d=
iv><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">most likely scenario, given that this p=
erson had contacted me, is that he (they) were</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size=
: 16px;">simply trying to discredit me. To avoid that happening, and =
to 'kill two birds with</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">one stone', I =
threw that hot potato to Andy Greenberg. (I was not at all happy with=
</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">Greenberg, who greatly misrepre=
sented 'facts' about me in his book). I figured</div><div class=3D""=
id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"f=
ont-size: 16px;">that Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, whi=
ch would allow me to use</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0=
_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">his negligenc=
e to discredit him. Very surprisingly, to me, Greenberg actually wrot=
e</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">an article and published in Forbes! =
Literally within hours, many dozen other </div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">articles appeared in other media, and in the end it probably=
was hundreds of articles</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">over the nex=
t year or so.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><div class=3D"" id=3D"yi=
v2501824522yqtfd97789"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_=
33836" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33838=
" class=3D"">>> Did any donations actually appear on the<br cle=
ar=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33840" class=3D"">>> sys=
tem after its initial announcement? Did any new names/targets appear?=
</div><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33842" class=3D""=
>>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,<br clea=
r=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33844" class=3D"">>yet my at=
tempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/<br clear=3D"none" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33846" class=3D"">>maybe i didn't pay enough=
... ?<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33848" class=3D"">=
> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG7=
3T" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3242" style=3D"color: rgb=
(25, 106, 212);" class=3D"">https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm=
6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG73T</a></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_=
3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33852" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font=
-size: 16px;">I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articl=
es publishing details. But no,</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">a=
ll the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenberg's. So, I learn=
ed very little. But</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">I _DID_ lear=
n that that system wouldn't be successful: At the very least, it woul=
d have had</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939758=
25_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">to convince the public that=
they could trust the system to operate reliably, and that never</div><div =
class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-size: 16px;">occurred.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">T=
he only public criticism I voiced was the fact that the system didn't accep=
t individual donations</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1=
_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">lower than 1 BT=
C. Most people would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quart=
er, or</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">dollar into a wishing well. &nb=
sp;But nearly $1000? Highly unlikely. It was one choice that vi=
rtually </div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">guaranteed failure, even=
if everything else was done right.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182452=
2yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">&n=
bsp;I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Ethereum, which if the=
y meet their implied</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1=
453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">promises, will ac=
tually do the job.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33865=
" class=3D""> Jim Bell<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33867" class=3D""><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182=
4522yqtfd92150" dir=3D"ltr"><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33870" cla=
ss=3D""></div></div></div></body></html>
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On 1/14/16, jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ... The main criticism I had
>> of this was the fact that the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1
>> BTC, which at the time was somewhere around $1000.=C2=A0 This, contrasti=
ng with
>> my Assassination Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing =
bits
>> of 10 cents.
>> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered
>> necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trust=
the
>> system?=C2=A0 How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?=C2=A0 Ho=
w to collect?I
>> never tried to research into this, because I judged that to do so would =
be a
>> little too 'hot' for me to do.
>i am curious how you arrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)>h=
ow do you pick where to draw that line?>*he says with a toe on something ve=
ry hot...*
It was more of an educated guess. =C2=A0I knew that I hadn't been promoting=
AP, yetsomebody was seemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying t=
hey were. =C2=A0Themost likely scenario, given that this person had contact=
ed me, is that he (they) weresimply trying to discredit me. =C2=A0To avoid =
that happening, and to 'kill two birds withone stone', I threw that hot pot=
ato to Andy Greenberg. =C2=A0(I was not at all happy with=C2=A0Greenberg, w=
ho greatly misrepresented 'facts' about me in his book). =C2=A0 I figuredth=
at Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, which would allow me t=
o usehis negligence to discredit him. =C2=A0Very surprisingly, to me, Green=
berg actually wrotean article and published in Forbes! =C2=A0Literally with=
in hours, many dozen other=C2=A0articles appeared in other media, and in th=
e end it probably was hundreds of articlesover the next year or so.
>>=C2=A0 Did any donations actually appear on the
>> system after its initial announcement?=C2=A0 Did any new names/targets a=
ppear?
>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,
>yet my attempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/
>maybe i didn't pay enough... ?
=C2=A0>=C2=A0https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi=
1GdZ4JZG73T
I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articles publishing =
details. =C2=A0But no,all the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenber=
g's. =C2=A0 So, I learned very little. =C2=A0ButI _DID_ learn that that sys=
tem wouldn't be successful: =C2=A0At the very least, it would have hadto co=
nvince the public that they could trust the system to operate reliably, and=
that neveroccurred.The only public criticism I voiced was the fact that th=
e system didn't accept individual donationslower than 1 BTC. =C2=A0Most peo=
ple would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quarter, ordollar into=
a wishing well. =C2=A0But nearly $1000? =C2=A0Highly unlikely. =C2=A0It wa=
s one choice that virtually=C2=A0guaranteed failure, even if everything els=
e was done right.=C2=A0I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Eth=
ereum, which if they meet their impliedpromises, will actually do the job.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1=
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_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_32521" class=3D"">From:</span></b> coderman &l=
t;coderman(a)gmail.com><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33783" class=
=3D""><b id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3053" class=3D""><sp=
an id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3052" class=3D"">To:</span=
></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1453193975825_33787" class=3D""><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33789"=
class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14=
53193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">On 1/14/16, jim bell <<a re=
l=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" style=3D"color: rgb(25, 106,=
212);" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33792" class=3D"">jdb10987(a)yahoo.c=
om</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33794"=
class=3D"">>> ... The main criticism I had<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33796" class=3D"">>> of this was the fact t=
hat the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33798" class=3D"">>> BTC, which at the tim=
e was somewhere around $1000. This, contrasting with<br clear=3D"none=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33800" class=3D"">>> my Assassinat=
ion Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing bits<br clear=3D=
"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33802" class=3D"">>> of 10 ce=
nts.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33804" class=3D"">&=
gt;> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered=
<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33806" class=3D"">>&=
gt; necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trus=
t the<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33808" class=3D"">=
>> system? How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?&nb=
sp; How to collect?I<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_338=
10" class=3D"">>> never tried to research into this, because I judged=
that to do so would be a<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145319397582=
5_33812" class=3D"">>> little too 'hot' for me to do.<br clear=3D"non=
e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33814" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33816" class=3D"">>i am curious how you a=
rrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)</div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;=
">>how do you pick where to draw that line?</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">>=
;*he says with a toe on something very hot...*</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33821" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">It was more of an educated guess. I knew that I hadn't=
been promoting AP, yet</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">somebody was s=
eemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying they were. The</d=
iv><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">most likely scenario, given that this p=
erson had contacted me, is that he (they) were</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y=
iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size=
: 16px;">simply trying to discredit me. To avoid that happening, and =
to 'kill two birds with</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_=
1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">one stone', I =
threw that hot potato to Andy Greenberg. (I was not at all happy with=
</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2=
964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">Greenberg, who greatly misrepre=
sented 'facts' about me in his book). I figured</div><div class=3D""=
id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"f=
ont-size: 16px;">that Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, whi=
ch would allow me to use</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0=
_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">his negligenc=
e to discredit him. Very surprisingly, to me, Greenberg actually wrot=
e</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">an article and published in Forbes! =
Literally within hours, many dozen other </div><div class=3D"" i=
d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 16px;">articles appeared in other media, and in the end it probably=
was hundreds of articles</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">over the nex=
t year or so.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939=
75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><div class=3D"" id=3D"yi=
v2501824522yqtfd97789"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_=
33836" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33838=
" class=3D"">>> Did any donations actually appear on the<br cle=
ar=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33840" class=3D"">>> sys=
tem after its initial announcement? Did any new names/targets appear?=
</div><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33842" class=3D""=
>>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,<br clea=
r=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33844" class=3D"">>yet my at=
tempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/<br clear=3D"none" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33846" class=3D"">>maybe i didn't pay enough=
... ?<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33848" class=3D"">=
> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG7=
3T" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3242" style=3D"color: rgb=
(25, 106, 212);" class=3D"">https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm=
6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG73T</a></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_=
3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33852" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font=
-size: 16px;">I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articl=
es publishing details. But no,</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245=
22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">a=
ll the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenberg's. So, I learn=
ed very little. But</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_=
0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">I _DID_ lear=
n that that system wouldn't be successful: At the very least, it woul=
d have had</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939758=
25_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">to convince the public that=
they could trust the system to operate reliably, and that never</div><div =
class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" =
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he only public criticism I voiced was the fact that the system didn't accep=
t individual donations</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1=
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bsp;I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Ethereum, which if the=
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