July 2018 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Cari Machet 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer friends - see if anyo= ne thinks you have standing =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don't bother. =C2=A0It was somewhat of a joke for me to menti= on the "story royalty" line. =C2=A0 Since having spent thousands of hours i= n Federal prison law libraries, I studied many different areas of law, far = beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyright law. =C2=A0I am not aw= are that copyright law would protect such an idea. =C2=A0If I had written a= play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my own under copyright law. = =C2=A0But not merely the underlying idea. =C2=A0Now, nothing would prevent = one of these studios from giving me some sort of credit on a line at the en= d of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legally. =C2=A0I am much more= upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal the idea, than the fact= they 'stole' it. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I should also take the opportunity to point out that I wrote = my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware of, the previous dis= cussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson. =C2=A0(I didn't even have Internet ac= cess, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entirely unaware of the C= ypherpunks list; =C2=A0AP part one was actually published here by somebody = else.). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The major differences included: =C2=A0Tim May and Robin Hanso= n both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "assassi= nation markets", as being "abhorrent markets". =C2=A0See Cyphernomicon 16.1= 6.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason they di= dn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical outcome. = =C2=A0I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thought that= assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, precisely = because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries unneces= sary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclear weapo= ns), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' with a fa= r-fairer alternative. =C2=A0THEY merely stuck their big toes into the cold = pool, whereas I did a belly-flop. =C2=A0(With the accompanying pain, <sigh>= ). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 They probably started out by thinking something like, "If per= son A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to mi= schief." =C2=A0Sure it could. =C2=A0But I approached the problem differentl= y: =C2=A0I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to buy = someone else's death. =C2=A0But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people m= ight want to pay $1 each for that outcome. =C2=A0That amounts to a crowdsou= rced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits. =C2=A0And I a= lso saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything whi= ch we call wrong in today's society. =C2=A0Anybody who is trying to argue a= gainst an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely flaw= ed status quo, even if they don't realize that. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I also solved David Friedman's "Hard problem", see his book, = "The Machinery of Freedom", =C2=A0the previously-assumed difficulty or impo= ssibility of providing for the defense of a fully libertarian or anarchisti= c society. =C2=A0Perhaps my big advantage was that I didn't know Friedman's= "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under that label, until long after I= 'd already solved it.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jim Bell ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f= ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, = sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaN= eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size= : 13px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56527"><div style=3D"font-family:= HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif= ; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56526"><div dir=3D"ltr= " id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56525"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" i= d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56524"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;"= >From:</span></b> Cari Machet <carimachet(a)gmail.com><br> <b><span sty= le=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> coderman <coderman(a)gmail.com&gt= ; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> cpunks <cyphe= rpunks(a)cpunks.org>; jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br> <b id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56921"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56920">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 30, 2015 8= :03 PM<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56923"><span style=3D"font-w= eight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56922">Subject:</span></b> R= e: The Black List<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56548"><br><div id=3D"yiv2095771975"><div id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56547"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549">>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer fri= ends - see if anyone thinks you have standing</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_= 0_1_1446229456410_56549">    Don't bother.  It was somewhat = of a joke for me to mention the "story royalty" line.   Since having s= pent thousands of hours in Federal prison law libraries, I studied many dif= ferent areas of law, far beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyrig= ht law.  I am not aware that copyright law would protect such an idea.=  If I had written a play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my ow= n under copyright law.  But not merely the underlying idea.  Now,= nothing would prevent one of these studios from giving me some sort of cre= dit on a line at the end of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legall= y.  I am much more upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal = the idea, than the fact they 'stole' it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_= 16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1= 446229456410_56549">    I should also take the opportunity to poi= nt out that I wrote my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware = of, the previous discussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson.  (I didn't e= ven have Internet access, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entir= ely unaware of the Cypherpunks list;  AP part one was actually publish= ed here by somebody else.).</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_= 56549">    The major differences included:  Tim May and Robi= n Hanson both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "= assassination markets", as being "abhorrent markets".  See Cyphernomic= on 16.16.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason = they didn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical ou= tcome.  I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thoug= ht that assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, pre= cisely because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries = unnecessary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclea= r weapons), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' wi= th a far-fairer alternative.  THEY merely stuck their big toes into th= e cold pool, whereas I did a belly-flop.  (With the accompanying pain,= <sigh>).  </div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14462294564= 10_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549= ">    They probably started out by thinking something like, "If p= erson A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to = mischief."  Sure it could.  But I approached the problem differen= tly:  I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to bu= y someone else's death.  But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people= might want to pay $1 each for that outcome.  That amounts to a crowds= ourced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits.  And I= also saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything w= hich we call wrong in today's society.  Anybody who is trying to argue= against an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely fl= awed status quo, even if they don't realize that.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id= =3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_= 3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    I also solved David Friedman's = "Hard problem", see his book, "The Machinery of Freedom",  the previou= sly-assumed difficulty or impossibility of providing for the defense of a f= ully libertarian or anarchistic society.  Perhaps my big advantage was= that I didn't know Friedman's "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under = that label, until long after I'd already solved it. </div><div dir=3D"= ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">     <br></div>= <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    &nbs= p;            Jim Bell</div><div dir=3D"ltr" = id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv2095771975yqt31= 85438982" id=3D"yiv2095771975yqt43260"><div class=3D"yiv2095771975gmail_quo= te" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56546"><br></div></div></div></div></d= iv> </div> </div> </div></body></html> ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160--

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by Cari Machet 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer friends - see if anyo= ne thinks you have standing =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don't bother. =C2=A0It was somewhat of a joke for me to menti= on the "story royalty" line. =C2=A0 Since having spent thousands of hours i= n Federal prison law libraries, I studied many different areas of law, far = beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyright law. =C2=A0I am not aw= are that copyright law would protect such an idea. =C2=A0If I had written a= play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my own under copyright law. = =C2=A0But not merely the underlying idea. =C2=A0Now, nothing would prevent = one of these studios from giving me some sort of credit on a line at the en= d of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legally. =C2=A0I am much more= upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal the idea, than the fact= they 'stole' it. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I should also take the opportunity to point out that I wrote = my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware of, the previous dis= cussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson. =C2=A0(I didn't even have Internet ac= cess, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entirely unaware of the C= ypherpunks list; =C2=A0AP part one was actually published here by somebody = else.). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The major differences included: =C2=A0Tim May and Robin Hanso= n both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "assassi= nation markets", as being "abhorrent markets". =C2=A0See Cyphernomicon 16.1= 6.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason they di= dn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical outcome. = =C2=A0I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thought that= assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, precisely = because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries unneces= sary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclear weapo= ns), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' with a fa= r-fairer alternative. =C2=A0THEY merely stuck their big toes into the cold = pool, whereas I did a belly-flop. =C2=A0(With the accompanying pain, <sigh>= ). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 They probably started out by thinking something like, "If per= son A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to mi= schief." =C2=A0Sure it could. =C2=A0But I approached the problem differentl= y: =C2=A0I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to buy = someone else's death. =C2=A0But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people m= ight want to pay $1 each for that outcome. =C2=A0That amounts to a crowdsou= rced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits. =C2=A0And I a= lso saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything whi= ch we call wrong in today's society. =C2=A0Anybody who is trying to argue a= gainst an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely flaw= ed status quo, even if they don't realize that. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I also solved David Friedman's "Hard problem", see his book, = "The Machinery of Freedom", =C2=A0the previously-assumed difficulty or impo= ssibility of providing for the defense of a fully libertarian or anarchisti= c society. =C2=A0Perhaps my big advantage was that I didn't know Friedman's= "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under that label, until long after I= 'd already solved it.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jim Bell ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f= ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, = sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaN= eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size= : 13px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56527"><div style=3D"font-family:= HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif= ; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56526"><div dir=3D"ltr= " id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56525"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" i= d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56524"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;"= >From:</span></b> Cari Machet <carimachet(a)gmail.com><br> <b><span sty= le=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> coderman <coderman(a)gmail.com&gt= ; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> cpunks <cyphe= rpunks(a)cpunks.org>; jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br> <b id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56921"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56920">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 30, 2015 8= :03 PM<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56923"><span style=3D"font-w= eight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56922">Subject:</span></b> R= e: The Black List<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56548"><br><div id=3D"yiv2095771975"><div id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56547"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549">>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer fri= ends - see if anyone thinks you have standing</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_= 0_1_1446229456410_56549">    Don't bother.  It was somewhat = of a joke for me to mention the "story royalty" line.   Since having s= pent thousands of hours in Federal prison law libraries, I studied many dif= ferent areas of law, far beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyrig= ht law.  I am not aware that copyright law would protect such an idea.=  If I had written a play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my ow= n under copyright law.  But not merely the underlying idea.  Now,= nothing would prevent one of these studios from giving me some sort of cre= dit on a line at the end of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legall= y.  I am much more upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal = the idea, than the fact they 'stole' it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_= 16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1= 446229456410_56549">    I should also take the opportunity to poi= nt out that I wrote my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware = of, the previous discussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson.  (I didn't e= ven have Internet access, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entir= ely unaware of the Cypherpunks list;  AP part one was actually publish= ed here by somebody else.).</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_= 56549">    The major differences included:  Tim May and Robi= n Hanson both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "= assassination markets", as being "abhorrent markets".  See Cyphernomic= on 16.16.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason = they didn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical ou= tcome.  I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thoug= ht that assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, pre= cisely because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries = unnecessary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclea= r weapons), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' wi= th a far-fairer alternative.  THEY merely stuck their big toes into th= e cold pool, whereas I did a belly-flop.  (With the accompanying pain,= <sigh>).  </div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14462294564= 10_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549= ">    They probably started out by thinking something like, "If p= erson A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to = mischief."  Sure it could.  But I approached the problem differen= tly:  I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to bu= y someone else's death.  But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people= might want to pay $1 each for that outcome.  That amounts to a crowds= ourced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits.  And I= also saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything w= hich we call wrong in today's society.  Anybody who is trying to argue= against an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely fl= awed status quo, even if they don't realize that.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id= =3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_= 3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    I also solved David Friedman's = "Hard problem", see his book, "The Machinery of Freedom",  the previou= sly-assumed difficulty or impossibility of providing for the defense of a f= ully libertarian or anarchistic society.  Perhaps my big advantage was= that I didn't know Friedman's "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under = that label, until long after I'd already solved it. </div><div dir=3D"= ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">     <br></div>= <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    &nbs= p;            Jim Bell</div><div dir=3D"ltr" = id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv2095771975yqt31= 85438982" id=3D"yiv2095771975yqt43260"><div class=3D"yiv2095771975gmail_quo= te" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56546"><br></div></div></div></div></d= iv> </div> </div> </div></body></html> ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160--

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by Cari Machet 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer friends - see if anyo= ne thinks you have standing =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don't bother. =C2=A0It was somewhat of a joke for me to menti= on the "story royalty" line. =C2=A0 Since having spent thousands of hours i= n Federal prison law libraries, I studied many different areas of law, far = beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyright law. =C2=A0I am not aw= are that copyright law would protect such an idea. =C2=A0If I had written a= play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my own under copyright law. = =C2=A0But not merely the underlying idea. =C2=A0Now, nothing would prevent = one of these studios from giving me some sort of credit on a line at the en= d of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legally. =C2=A0I am much more= upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal the idea, than the fact= they 'stole' it. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I should also take the opportunity to point out that I wrote = my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware of, the previous dis= cussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson. =C2=A0(I didn't even have Internet ac= cess, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entirely unaware of the C= ypherpunks list; =C2=A0AP part one was actually published here by somebody = else.). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The major differences included: =C2=A0Tim May and Robin Hanso= n both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "assassi= nation markets", as being "abhorrent markets". =C2=A0See Cyphernomicon 16.1= 6.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason they di= dn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical outcome. = =C2=A0I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thought that= assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, precisely = because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries unneces= sary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclear weapo= ns), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' with a fa= r-fairer alternative. =C2=A0THEY merely stuck their big toes into the cold = pool, whereas I did a belly-flop. =C2=A0(With the accompanying pain, <sigh>= ). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 They probably started out by thinking something like, "If per= son A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to mi= schief." =C2=A0Sure it could. =C2=A0But I approached the problem differentl= y: =C2=A0I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to buy = someone else's death. =C2=A0But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people m= ight want to pay $1 each for that outcome. =C2=A0That amounts to a crowdsou= rced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits. =C2=A0And I a= lso saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything whi= ch we call wrong in today's society. =C2=A0Anybody who is trying to argue a= gainst an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely flaw= ed status quo, even if they don't realize that. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I also solved David Friedman's "Hard problem", see his book, = "The Machinery of Freedom", =C2=A0the previously-assumed difficulty or impo= ssibility of providing for the defense of a fully libertarian or anarchisti= c society. =C2=A0Perhaps my big advantage was that I didn't know Friedman's= "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under that label, until long after I= 'd already solved it.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jim Bell ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f= ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, = sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaN= eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size= : 13px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56527"><div style=3D"font-family:= HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif= ; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56526"><div dir=3D"ltr= " id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56525"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" i= d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56524"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;"= >From:</span></b> Cari Machet <carimachet(a)gmail.com><br> <b><span sty= le=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> coderman <coderman(a)gmail.com&gt= ; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> cpunks <cyphe= rpunks(a)cpunks.org>; jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br> <b id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56921"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56920">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 30, 2015 8= :03 PM<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56923"><span style=3D"font-w= eight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56922">Subject:</span></b> R= e: The Black List<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56548"><br><div id=3D"yiv2095771975"><div id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56547"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549">>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer fri= ends - see if anyone thinks you have standing</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_= 0_1_1446229456410_56549">    Don't bother.  It was somewhat = of a joke for me to mention the "story royalty" line.   Since having s= pent thousands of hours in Federal prison law libraries, I studied many dif= ferent areas of law, far beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyrig= ht law.  I am not aware that copyright law would protect such an idea.=  If I had written a play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my ow= n under copyright law.  But not merely the underlying idea.  Now,= nothing would prevent one of these studios from giving me some sort of cre= dit on a line at the end of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legall= y.  I am much more upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal = the idea, than the fact they 'stole' it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_= 16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1= 446229456410_56549">    I should also take the opportunity to poi= nt out that I wrote my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware = of, the previous discussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson.  (I didn't e= ven have Internet access, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entir= ely unaware of the Cypherpunks list;  AP part one was actually publish= ed here by somebody else.).</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_= 56549">    The major differences included:  Tim May and Robi= n Hanson both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "= assassination markets", as being "abhorrent markets".  See Cyphernomic= on 16.16.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason = they didn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical ou= tcome.  I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thoug= ht that assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, pre= cisely because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries = unnecessary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclea= r weapons), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' wi= th a far-fairer alternative.  THEY merely stuck their big toes into th= e cold pool, whereas I did a belly-flop.  (With the accompanying pain,= <sigh>).  </div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14462294564= 10_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549= ">    They probably started out by thinking something like, "If p= erson A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to = mischief."  Sure it could.  But I approached the problem differen= tly:  I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to bu= y someone else's death.  But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people= might want to pay $1 each for that outcome.  That amounts to a crowds= ourced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits.  And I= also saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything w= hich we call wrong in today's society.  Anybody who is trying to argue= against an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely fl= awed status quo, even if they don't realize that.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id= =3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_= 3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    I also solved David Friedman's = "Hard problem", see his book, "The Machinery of Freedom",  the previou= sly-assumed difficulty or impossibility of providing for the defense of a f= ully libertarian or anarchistic society.  Perhaps my big advantage was= that I didn't know Friedman's "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under = that label, until long after I'd already solved it. </div><div dir=3D"= ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">     <br></div>= <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    &nbs= p;            Jim Bell</div><div dir=3D"ltr" = id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv2095771975yqt31= 85438982" id=3D"yiv2095771975yqt43260"><div class=3D"yiv2095771975gmail_quo= te" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56546"><br></div></div></div></div></d= iv> </div> </div> </div></body></html> ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160--

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>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer friends - see if anyo= ne thinks you have standing =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don't bother. =C2=A0It was somewhat of a joke for me to menti= on the "story royalty" line. =C2=A0 Since having spent thousands of hours i= n Federal prison law libraries, I studied many different areas of law, far = beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyright law. =C2=A0I am not aw= are that copyright law would protect such an idea. =C2=A0If I had written a= play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my own under copyright law. = =C2=A0But not merely the underlying idea. =C2=A0Now, nothing would prevent = one of these studios from giving me some sort of credit on a line at the en= d of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legally. =C2=A0I am much more= upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal the idea, than the fact= they 'stole' it. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I should also take the opportunity to point out that I wrote = my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware of, the previous dis= cussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson. =C2=A0(I didn't even have Internet ac= cess, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entirely unaware of the C= ypherpunks list; =C2=A0AP part one was actually published here by somebody = else.). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The major differences included: =C2=A0Tim May and Robin Hanso= n both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "assassi= nation markets", as being "abhorrent markets". =C2=A0See Cyphernomicon 16.1= 6.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason they di= dn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical outcome. = =C2=A0I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thought that= assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, precisely = because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries unneces= sary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclear weapo= ns), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' with a fa= r-fairer alternative. =C2=A0THEY merely stuck their big toes into the cold = pool, whereas I did a belly-flop. =C2=A0(With the accompanying pain, <sigh>= ). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 They probably started out by thinking something like, "If per= son A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to mi= schief." =C2=A0Sure it could. =C2=A0But I approached the problem differentl= y: =C2=A0I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to buy = someone else's death. =C2=A0But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people m= ight want to pay $1 each for that outcome. =C2=A0That amounts to a crowdsou= rced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits. =C2=A0And I a= lso saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything whi= ch we call wrong in today's society. =C2=A0Anybody who is trying to argue a= gainst an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely flaw= ed status quo, even if they don't realize that. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I also solved David Friedman's "Hard problem", see his book, = "The Machinery of Freedom", =C2=A0the previously-assumed difficulty or impo= ssibility of providing for the defense of a fully libertarian or anarchisti= c society. =C2=A0Perhaps my big advantage was that I didn't know Friedman's= "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under that label, until long after I= 'd already solved it.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jim Bell ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f= ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, = sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaN= eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size= : 13px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56527"><div style=3D"font-family:= HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif= ; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56526"><div dir=3D"ltr= " id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56525"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" i= d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56524"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;"= >From:</span></b> Cari Machet <carimachet(a)gmail.com><br> <b><span sty= le=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> coderman <coderman(a)gmail.com&gt= ; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> cpunks <cyphe= rpunks(a)cpunks.org>; jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br> <b id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56921"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56920">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 30, 2015 8= :03 PM<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56923"><span style=3D"font-w= eight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56922">Subject:</span></b> R= e: The Black List<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56548"><br><div id=3D"yiv2095771975"><div id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56547"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549">>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer fri= ends - see if anyone thinks you have standing</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_= 0_1_1446229456410_56549">    Don't bother.  It was somewhat = of a joke for me to mention the "story royalty" line.   Since having s= pent thousands of hours in Federal prison law libraries, I studied many dif= ferent areas of law, far beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyrig= ht law.  I am not aware that copyright law would protect such an idea.=  If I had written a play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my ow= n under copyright law.  But not merely the underlying idea.  Now,= nothing would prevent one of these studios from giving me some sort of cre= dit on a line at the end of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legall= y.  I am much more upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal = the idea, than the fact they 'stole' it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_= 16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1= 446229456410_56549">    I should also take the opportunity to poi= nt out that I wrote my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware = of, the previous discussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson.  (I didn't e= ven have Internet access, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entir= ely unaware of the Cypherpunks list;  AP part one was actually publish= ed here by somebody else.).</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_= 56549">    The major differences included:  Tim May and Robi= n Hanson both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "= assassination markets", as being "abhorrent markets".  See Cyphernomic= on 16.16.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason = they didn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical ou= tcome.  I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thoug= ht that assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, pre= cisely because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries = unnecessary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclea= r weapons), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' wi= th a far-fairer alternative.  THEY merely stuck their big toes into th= e cold pool, whereas I did a belly-flop.  (With the accompanying pain,= <sigh>).  </div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14462294564= 10_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549= ">    They probably started out by thinking something like, "If p= erson A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to = mischief."  Sure it could.  But I approached the problem differen= tly:  I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to bu= y someone else's death.  But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people= might want to pay $1 each for that outcome.  That amounts to a crowds= ourced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits.  And I= also saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything w= hich we call wrong in today's society.  Anybody who is trying to argue= against an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely fl= awed status quo, even if they don't realize that.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id= =3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_= 3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    I also solved David Friedman's = "Hard problem", see his book, "The Machinery of Freedom",  the previou= sly-assumed difficulty or impossibility of providing for the defense of a f= ully libertarian or anarchistic society.  Perhaps my big advantage was= that I didn't know Friedman's "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under = that label, until long after I'd already solved it. </div><div dir=3D"= ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">     <br></div>= <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    &nbs= p;            Jim Bell</div><div dir=3D"ltr" = id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv2095771975yqt31= 85438982" id=3D"yiv2095771975yqt43260"><div class=3D"yiv2095771975gmail_quo= te" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56546"><br></div></div></div></div></d= iv> </div> </div> </div></body></html> ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160--

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by Cari Machet 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer friends - see if anyo= ne thinks you have standing =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don't bother. =C2=A0It was somewhat of a joke for me to menti= on the "story royalty" line. =C2=A0 Since having spent thousands of hours i= n Federal prison law libraries, I studied many different areas of law, far = beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyright law. =C2=A0I am not aw= are that copyright law would protect such an idea. =C2=A0If I had written a= play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my own under copyright law. = =C2=A0But not merely the underlying idea. =C2=A0Now, nothing would prevent = one of these studios from giving me some sort of credit on a line at the en= d of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legally. =C2=A0I am much more= upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal the idea, than the fact= they 'stole' it. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I should also take the opportunity to point out that I wrote = my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware of, the previous dis= cussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson. =C2=A0(I didn't even have Internet ac= cess, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entirely unaware of the C= ypherpunks list; =C2=A0AP part one was actually published here by somebody = else.). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The major differences included: =C2=A0Tim May and Robin Hanso= n both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "assassi= nation markets", as being "abhorrent markets". =C2=A0See Cyphernomicon 16.1= 6.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason they di= dn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical outcome. = =C2=A0I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thought that= assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, precisely = because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries unneces= sary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclear weapo= ns), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' with a fa= r-fairer alternative. =C2=A0THEY merely stuck their big toes into the cold = pool, whereas I did a belly-flop. =C2=A0(With the accompanying pain, <sigh>= ). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 They probably started out by thinking something like, "If per= son A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to mi= schief." =C2=A0Sure it could. =C2=A0But I approached the problem differentl= y: =C2=A0I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to buy = someone else's death. =C2=A0But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people m= ight want to pay $1 each for that outcome. =C2=A0That amounts to a crowdsou= rced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits. =C2=A0And I a= lso saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything whi= ch we call wrong in today's society. =C2=A0Anybody who is trying to argue a= gainst an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely flaw= ed status quo, even if they don't realize that. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I also solved David Friedman's "Hard problem", see his book, = "The Machinery of Freedom", =C2=A0the previously-assumed difficulty or impo= ssibility of providing for the defense of a fully libertarian or anarchisti= c society. =C2=A0Perhaps my big advantage was that I didn't know Friedman's= "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under that label, until long after I= 'd already solved it.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jim Bell ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f= ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, = sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaN= eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size= : 13px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56527"><div style=3D"font-family:= HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif= ; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56526"><div dir=3D"ltr= " id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56525"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" i= d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56524"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;"= >From:</span></b> Cari Machet <carimachet(a)gmail.com><br> <b><span sty= le=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> coderman <coderman(a)gmail.com&gt= ; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> cpunks <cyphe= rpunks(a)cpunks.org>; jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br> <b id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56921"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56920">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 30, 2015 8= :03 PM<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56923"><span style=3D"font-w= eight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56922">Subject:</span></b> R= e: The Black List<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56548"><br><div id=3D"yiv2095771975"><div id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56547"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549">>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer fri= ends - see if anyone thinks you have standing</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_= 0_1_1446229456410_56549">    Don't bother.  It was somewhat = of a joke for me to mention the "story royalty" line.   Since having s= pent thousands of hours in Federal prison law libraries, I studied many dif= ferent areas of law, far beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyrig= ht law.  I am not aware that copyright law would protect such an idea.=  If I had written a play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my ow= n under copyright law.  But not merely the underlying idea.  Now,= nothing would prevent one of these studios from giving me some sort of cre= dit on a line at the end of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legall= y.  I am much more upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal = the idea, than the fact they 'stole' it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_= 16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1= 446229456410_56549">    I should also take the opportunity to poi= nt out that I wrote my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware = of, the previous discussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson.  (I didn't e= ven have Internet access, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entir= ely unaware of the Cypherpunks list;  AP part one was actually publish= ed here by somebody else.).</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_= 56549">    The major differences included:  Tim May and Robi= n Hanson both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "= assassination markets", as being "abhorrent markets".  See Cyphernomic= on 16.16.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason = they didn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical ou= tcome.  I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thoug= ht that assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, pre= cisely because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries = unnecessary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclea= r weapons), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' wi= th a far-fairer alternative.  THEY merely stuck their big toes into th= e cold pool, whereas I did a belly-flop.  (With the accompanying pain,= <sigh>).  </div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14462294564= 10_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549= ">    They probably started out by thinking something like, "If p= erson A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to = mischief."  Sure it could.  But I approached the problem differen= tly:  I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to bu= y someone else's death.  But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people= might want to pay $1 each for that outcome.  That amounts to a crowds= ourced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits.  And I= also saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything w= hich we call wrong in today's society.  Anybody who is trying to argue= against an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely fl= awed status quo, even if they don't realize that.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id= =3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_= 3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    I also solved David Friedman's = "Hard problem", see his book, "The Machinery of Freedom",  the previou= sly-assumed difficulty or impossibility of providing for the defense of a f= ully libertarian or anarchistic society.  Perhaps my big advantage was= that I didn't know Friedman's "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under = that label, until long after I'd already solved it. </div><div dir=3D"= ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">     <br></div>= <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    &nbs= p;            Jim Bell</div><div dir=3D"ltr" = id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv2095771975yqt31= 85438982" id=3D"yiv2095771975yqt43260"><div class=3D"yiv2095771975gmail_quo= te" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56546"><br></div></div></div></div></d= iv> </div> </div> </div></body></html> ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160--

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>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer friends - see if anyo= ne thinks you have standing =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don't bother. =C2=A0It was somewhat of a joke for me to menti= on the "story royalty" line. =C2=A0 Since having spent thousands of hours i= n Federal prison law libraries, I studied many different areas of law, far = beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyright law. =C2=A0I am not aw= are that copyright law would protect such an idea. =C2=A0If I had written a= play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my own under copyright law. = =C2=A0But not merely the underlying idea. =C2=A0Now, nothing would prevent = one of these studios from giving me some sort of credit on a line at the en= d of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legally. =C2=A0I am much more= upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal the idea, than the fact= they 'stole' it. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I should also take the opportunity to point out that I wrote = my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware of, the previous dis= cussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson. =C2=A0(I didn't even have Internet ac= cess, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entirely unaware of the C= ypherpunks list; =C2=A0AP part one was actually published here by somebody = else.). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The major differences included: =C2=A0Tim May and Robin Hanso= n both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "assassi= nation markets", as being "abhorrent markets". =C2=A0See Cyphernomicon 16.1= 6.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason they di= dn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical outcome. = =C2=A0I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thought that= assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, precisely = because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries unneces= sary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclear weapo= ns), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' with a fa= r-fairer alternative. =C2=A0THEY merely stuck their big toes into the cold = pool, whereas I did a belly-flop. =C2=A0(With the accompanying pain, <sigh>= ). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 They probably started out by thinking something like, "If per= son A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to mi= schief." =C2=A0Sure it could. =C2=A0But I approached the problem differentl= y: =C2=A0I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to buy = someone else's death. =C2=A0But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people m= ight want to pay $1 each for that outcome. =C2=A0That amounts to a crowdsou= rced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits. =C2=A0And I a= lso saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything whi= ch we call wrong in today's society. =C2=A0Anybody who is trying to argue a= gainst an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely flaw= ed status quo, even if they don't realize that. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I also solved David Friedman's "Hard problem", see his book, = "The Machinery of Freedom", =C2=A0the previously-assumed difficulty or impo= ssibility of providing for the defense of a fully libertarian or anarchisti= c society. =C2=A0Perhaps my big advantage was that I didn't know Friedman's= "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under that label, until long after I= 'd already solved it.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jim Bell ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f= ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, = sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaN= eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size= : 13px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56527"><div style=3D"font-family:= HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif= ; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56526"><div dir=3D"ltr= " id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56525"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" i= d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56524"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;"= >From:</span></b> Cari Machet <carimachet(a)gmail.com><br> <b><span sty= le=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> coderman <coderman(a)gmail.com&gt= ; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> cpunks <cyphe= rpunks(a)cpunks.org>; jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br> <b id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56921"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56920">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 30, 2015 8= :03 PM<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56923"><span style=3D"font-w= eight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56922">Subject:</span></b> R= e: The Black List<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56548"><br><div id=3D"yiv2095771975"><div id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56547"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549">>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer fri= ends - see if anyone thinks you have standing</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_= 0_1_1446229456410_56549">    Don't bother.  It was somewhat = of a joke for me to mention the "story royalty" line.   Since having s= pent thousands of hours in Federal prison law libraries, I studied many dif= ferent areas of law, far beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyrig= ht law.  I am not aware that copyright law would protect such an idea.=  If I had written a play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my ow= n under copyright law.  But not merely the underlying idea.  Now,= nothing would prevent one of these studios from giving me some sort of cre= dit on a line at the end of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legall= y.  I am much more upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal = the idea, than the fact they 'stole' it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_= 16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1= 446229456410_56549">    I should also take the opportunity to poi= nt out that I wrote my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware = of, the previous discussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson.  (I didn't e= ven have Internet access, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entir= ely unaware of the Cypherpunks list;  AP part one was actually publish= ed here by somebody else.).</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_= 56549">    The major differences included:  Tim May and Robi= n Hanson both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "= assassination markets", as being "abhorrent markets".  See Cyphernomic= on 16.16.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason = they didn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical ou= tcome.  I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thoug= ht that assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, pre= cisely because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries = unnecessary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclea= r weapons), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' wi= th a far-fairer alternative.  THEY merely stuck their big toes into th= e cold pool, whereas I did a belly-flop.  (With the accompanying pain,= <sigh>).  </div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14462294564= 10_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549= ">    They probably started out by thinking something like, "If p= erson A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to = mischief."  Sure it could.  But I approached the problem differen= tly:  I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to bu= y someone else's death.  But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people= might want to pay $1 each for that outcome.  That amounts to a crowds= ourced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits.  And I= also saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything w= hich we call wrong in today's society.  Anybody who is trying to argue= against an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely fl= awed status quo, even if they don't realize that.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id= =3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_= 3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    I also solved David Friedman's = "Hard problem", see his book, "The Machinery of Freedom",  the previou= sly-assumed difficulty or impossibility of providing for the defense of a f= ully libertarian or anarchistic society.  Perhaps my big advantage was= that I didn't know Friedman's "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under = that label, until long after I'd already solved it. </div><div dir=3D"= ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">     <br></div>= <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    &nbs= p;            Jim Bell</div><div dir=3D"ltr" = id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv2095771975yqt31= 85438982" id=3D"yiv2095771975yqt43260"><div class=3D"yiv2095771975gmail_quo= te" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56546"><br></div></div></div></div></d= iv> </div> </div> </div></body></html> ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160--

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by Cari Machet 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer friends - see if anyo= ne thinks you have standing =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don't bother. =C2=A0It was somewhat of a joke for me to menti= on the "story royalty" line. =C2=A0 Since having spent thousands of hours i= n Federal prison law libraries, I studied many different areas of law, far = beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyright law. =C2=A0I am not aw= are that copyright law would protect such an idea. =C2=A0If I had written a= play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my own under copyright law. = =C2=A0But not merely the underlying idea. =C2=A0Now, nothing would prevent = one of these studios from giving me some sort of credit on a line at the en= d of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legally. =C2=A0I am much more= upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal the idea, than the fact= they 'stole' it. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I should also take the opportunity to point out that I wrote = my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware of, the previous dis= cussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson. =C2=A0(I didn't even have Internet ac= cess, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entirely unaware of the C= ypherpunks list; =C2=A0AP part one was actually published here by somebody = else.). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The major differences included: =C2=A0Tim May and Robin Hanso= n both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "assassi= nation markets", as being "abhorrent markets". =C2=A0See Cyphernomicon 16.1= 6.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason they di= dn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical outcome. = =C2=A0I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thought that= assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, precisely = because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries unneces= sary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclear weapo= ns), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' with a fa= r-fairer alternative. =C2=A0THEY merely stuck their big toes into the cold = pool, whereas I did a belly-flop. =C2=A0(With the accompanying pain, <sigh>= ). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 They probably started out by thinking something like, "If per= son A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to mi= schief." =C2=A0Sure it could. =C2=A0But I approached the problem differentl= y: =C2=A0I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to buy = someone else's death. =C2=A0But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people m= ight want to pay $1 each for that outcome. =C2=A0That amounts to a crowdsou= rced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits. =C2=A0And I a= lso saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything whi= ch we call wrong in today's society. =C2=A0Anybody who is trying to argue a= gainst an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely flaw= ed status quo, even if they don't realize that. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I also solved David Friedman's "Hard problem", see his book, = "The Machinery of Freedom", =C2=A0the previously-assumed difficulty or impo= ssibility of providing for the defense of a fully libertarian or anarchisti= c society. =C2=A0Perhaps my big advantage was that I didn't know Friedman's= "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under that label, until long after I= 'd already solved it.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jim Bell ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f= ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, = sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaN= eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size= : 13px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56527"><div style=3D"font-family:= HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif= ; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56526"><div dir=3D"ltr= " id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56525"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" i= d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56524"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;"= >From:</span></b> Cari Machet <carimachet(a)gmail.com><br> <b><span sty= le=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> coderman <coderman(a)gmail.com&gt= ; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> cpunks <cyphe= rpunks(a)cpunks.org>; jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br> <b id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56921"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56920">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 30, 2015 8= :03 PM<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56923"><span style=3D"font-w= eight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56922">Subject:</span></b> R= e: The Black List<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56548"><br><div id=3D"yiv2095771975"><div id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56547"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549">>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer fri= ends - see if anyone thinks you have standing</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_= 0_1_1446229456410_56549">    Don't bother.  It was somewhat = of a joke for me to mention the "story royalty" line.   Since having s= pent thousands of hours in Federal prison law libraries, I studied many dif= ferent areas of law, far beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyrig= ht law.  I am not aware that copyright law would protect such an idea.=  If I had written a play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my ow= n under copyright law.  But not merely the underlying idea.  Now,= nothing would prevent one of these studios from giving me some sort of cre= dit on a line at the end of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legall= y.  I am much more upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal = the idea, than the fact they 'stole' it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_= 16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1= 446229456410_56549">    I should also take the opportunity to poi= nt out that I wrote my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware = of, the previous discussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson.  (I didn't e= ven have Internet access, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entir= ely unaware of the Cypherpunks list;  AP part one was actually publish= ed here by somebody else.).</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_= 56549">    The major differences included:  Tim May and Robi= n Hanson both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "= assassination markets", as being "abhorrent markets".  See Cyphernomic= on 16.16.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason = they didn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical ou= tcome.  I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thoug= ht that assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, pre= cisely because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries = unnecessary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclea= r weapons), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' wi= th a far-fairer alternative.  THEY merely stuck their big toes into th= e cold pool, whereas I did a belly-flop.  (With the accompanying pain,= <sigh>).  </div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14462294564= 10_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549= ">    They probably started out by thinking something like, "If p= erson A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to = mischief."  Sure it could.  But I approached the problem differen= tly:  I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to bu= y someone else's death.  But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people= might want to pay $1 each for that outcome.  That amounts to a crowds= ourced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits.  And I= also saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything w= hich we call wrong in today's society.  Anybody who is trying to argue= against an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely fl= awed status quo, even if they don't realize that.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id= =3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_= 3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    I also solved David Friedman's = "Hard problem", see his book, "The Machinery of Freedom",  the previou= sly-assumed difficulty or impossibility of providing for the defense of a f= ully libertarian or anarchistic society.  Perhaps my big advantage was= that I didn't know Friedman's "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under = that label, until long after I'd already solved it. </div><div dir=3D"= ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">     <br></div>= <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    &nbs= p;            Jim Bell</div><div dir=3D"ltr" = id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv2095771975yqt31= 85438982" id=3D"yiv2095771975yqt43260"><div class=3D"yiv2095771975gmail_quo= te" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56546"><br></div></div></div></div></d= iv> </div> </div> </div></body></html> ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160--

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>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer friends - see if anyo= ne thinks you have standing =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don't bother. =C2=A0It was somewhat of a joke for me to menti= on the "story royalty" line. =C2=A0 Since having spent thousands of hours i= n Federal prison law libraries, I studied many different areas of law, far = beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyright law. =C2=A0I am not aw= are that copyright law would protect such an idea. =C2=A0If I had written a= play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my own under copyright law. = =C2=A0But not merely the underlying idea. =C2=A0Now, nothing would prevent = one of these studios from giving me some sort of credit on a line at the en= d of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legally. =C2=A0I am much more= upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal the idea, than the fact= they 'stole' it. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I should also take the opportunity to point out that I wrote = my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware of, the previous dis= cussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson. =C2=A0(I didn't even have Internet ac= cess, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entirely unaware of the C= ypherpunks list; =C2=A0AP part one was actually published here by somebody = else.). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The major differences included: =C2=A0Tim May and Robin Hanso= n both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "assassi= nation markets", as being "abhorrent markets". =C2=A0See Cyphernomicon 16.1= 6.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason they di= dn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical outcome. = =C2=A0I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thought that= assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, precisely = because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries unneces= sary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclear weapo= ns), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' with a fa= r-fairer alternative. =C2=A0THEY merely stuck their big toes into the cold = pool, whereas I did a belly-flop. =C2=A0(With the accompanying pain, <sigh>= ). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 They probably started out by thinking something like, "If per= son A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to mi= schief." =C2=A0Sure it could. =C2=A0But I approached the problem differentl= y: =C2=A0I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to buy = someone else's death. =C2=A0But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people m= ight want to pay $1 each for that outcome. =C2=A0That amounts to a crowdsou= rced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits. =C2=A0And I a= lso saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything whi= ch we call wrong in today's society. =C2=A0Anybody who is trying to argue a= gainst an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely flaw= ed status quo, even if they don't realize that. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I also solved David Friedman's "Hard problem", see his book, = "The Machinery of Freedom", =C2=A0the previously-assumed difficulty or impo= ssibility of providing for the defense of a fully libertarian or anarchisti= c society. =C2=A0Perhaps my big advantage was that I didn't know Friedman's= "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under that label, until long after I= 'd already solved it.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jim Bell ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f= ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, = sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaN= eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size= : 13px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56527"><div style=3D"font-family:= HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif= ; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56526"><div dir=3D"ltr= " id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56525"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" i= d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56524"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;"= >From:</span></b> Cari Machet <carimachet(a)gmail.com><br> <b><span sty= le=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> coderman <coderman(a)gmail.com&gt= ; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> cpunks <cyphe= rpunks(a)cpunks.org>; jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br> <b id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56921"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56920">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 30, 2015 8= :03 PM<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56923"><span style=3D"font-w= eight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56922">Subject:</span></b> R= e: The Black List<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56548"><br><div id=3D"yiv2095771975"><div id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56547"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549">>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer fri= ends - see if anyone thinks you have standing</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_= 0_1_1446229456410_56549">    Don't bother.  It was somewhat = of a joke for me to mention the "story royalty" line.   Since having s= pent thousands of hours in Federal prison law libraries, I studied many dif= ferent areas of law, far beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyrig= ht law.  I am not aware that copyright law would protect such an idea.=  If I had written a play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my ow= n under copyright law.  But not merely the underlying idea.  Now,= nothing would prevent one of these studios from giving me some sort of cre= dit on a line at the end of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legall= y.  I am much more upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal = the idea, than the fact they 'stole' it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_= 16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1= 446229456410_56549">    I should also take the opportunity to poi= nt out that I wrote my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware = of, the previous discussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson.  (I didn't e= ven have Internet access, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entir= ely unaware of the Cypherpunks list;  AP part one was actually publish= ed here by somebody else.).</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_= 56549">    The major differences included:  Tim May and Robi= n Hanson both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "= assassination markets", as being "abhorrent markets".  See Cyphernomic= on 16.16.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason = they didn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical ou= tcome.  I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thoug= ht that assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, pre= cisely because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries = unnecessary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclea= r weapons), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' wi= th a far-fairer alternative.  THEY merely stuck their big toes into th= e cold pool, whereas I did a belly-flop.  (With the accompanying pain,= <sigh>).  </div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14462294564= 10_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549= ">    They probably started out by thinking something like, "If p= erson A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to = mischief."  Sure it could.  But I approached the problem differen= tly:  I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to bu= y someone else's death.  But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people= might want to pay $1 each for that outcome.  That amounts to a crowds= ourced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits.  And I= also saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything w= hich we call wrong in today's society.  Anybody who is trying to argue= against an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely fl= awed status quo, even if they don't realize that.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id= =3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_= 3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    I also solved David Friedman's = "Hard problem", see his book, "The Machinery of Freedom",  the previou= sly-assumed difficulty or impossibility of providing for the defense of a f= ully libertarian or anarchistic society.  Perhaps my big advantage was= that I didn't know Friedman's "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under = that label, until long after I'd already solved it. </div><div dir=3D"= ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">     <br></div>= <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    &nbs= p;            Jim Bell</div><div dir=3D"ltr" = id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv2095771975yqt31= 85438982" id=3D"yiv2095771975yqt43260"><div class=3D"yiv2095771975gmail_quo= te" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56546"><br></div></div></div></div></d= iv> </div> </div> </div></body></html> ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160--

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by Cari Machet 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer friends - see if anyo= ne thinks you have standing =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don't bother. =C2=A0It was somewhat of a joke for me to menti= on the "story royalty" line. =C2=A0 Since having spent thousands of hours i= n Federal prison law libraries, I studied many different areas of law, far = beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyright law. =C2=A0I am not aw= are that copyright law would protect such an idea. =C2=A0If I had written a= play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my own under copyright law. = =C2=A0But not merely the underlying idea. =C2=A0Now, nothing would prevent = one of these studios from giving me some sort of credit on a line at the en= d of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legally. =C2=A0I am much more= upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal the idea, than the fact= they 'stole' it. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I should also take the opportunity to point out that I wrote = my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware of, the previous dis= cussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson. =C2=A0(I didn't even have Internet ac= cess, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entirely unaware of the C= ypherpunks list; =C2=A0AP part one was actually published here by somebody = else.). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The major differences included: =C2=A0Tim May and Robin Hanso= n both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "assassi= nation markets", as being "abhorrent markets". =C2=A0See Cyphernomicon 16.1= 6.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason they di= dn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical outcome. = =C2=A0I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thought that= assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, precisely = because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries unneces= sary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclear weapo= ns), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' with a fa= r-fairer alternative. =C2=A0THEY merely stuck their big toes into the cold = pool, whereas I did a belly-flop. =C2=A0(With the accompanying pain, <sigh>= ). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 They probably started out by thinking something like, "If per= son A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to mi= schief." =C2=A0Sure it could. =C2=A0But I approached the problem differentl= y: =C2=A0I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to buy = someone else's death. =C2=A0But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people m= ight want to pay $1 each for that outcome. =C2=A0That amounts to a crowdsou= rced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits. =C2=A0And I a= lso saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything whi= ch we call wrong in today's society. =C2=A0Anybody who is trying to argue a= gainst an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely flaw= ed status quo, even if they don't realize that. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I also solved David Friedman's "Hard problem", see his book, = "The Machinery of Freedom", =C2=A0the previously-assumed difficulty or impo= ssibility of providing for the defense of a fully libertarian or anarchisti= c society. =C2=A0Perhaps my big advantage was that I didn't know Friedman's= "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under that label, until long after I= 'd already solved it.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jim Bell ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f= ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, = sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaN= eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size= : 13px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56527"><div style=3D"font-family:= HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif= ; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56526"><div dir=3D"ltr= " id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56525"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" i= d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56524"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;"= >From:</span></b> Cari Machet <carimachet(a)gmail.com><br> <b><span sty= le=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> coderman <coderman(a)gmail.com&gt= ; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> cpunks <cyphe= rpunks(a)cpunks.org>; jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br> <b id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56921"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56920">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 30, 2015 8= :03 PM<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56923"><span style=3D"font-w= eight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56922">Subject:</span></b> R= e: The Black List<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56548"><br><div id=3D"yiv2095771975"><div id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56547"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549">>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer fri= ends - see if anyone thinks you have standing</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_= 0_1_1446229456410_56549">    Don't bother.  It was somewhat = of a joke for me to mention the "story royalty" line.   Since having s= pent thousands of hours in Federal prison law libraries, I studied many dif= ferent areas of law, far beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyrig= ht law.  I am not aware that copyright law would protect such an idea.=  If I had written a play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my ow= n under copyright law.  But not merely the underlying idea.  Now,= nothing would prevent one of these studios from giving me some sort of cre= dit on a line at the end of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legall= y.  I am much more upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal = the idea, than the fact they 'stole' it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_= 16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1= 446229456410_56549">    I should also take the opportunity to poi= nt out that I wrote my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware = of, the previous discussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson.  (I didn't e= ven have Internet access, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entir= ely unaware of the Cypherpunks list;  AP part one was actually publish= ed here by somebody else.).</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_= 56549">    The major differences included:  Tim May and Robi= n Hanson both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "= assassination markets", as being "abhorrent markets".  See Cyphernomic= on 16.16.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason = they didn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical ou= tcome.  I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thoug= ht that assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, pre= cisely because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries = unnecessary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclea= r weapons), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' wi= th a far-fairer alternative.  THEY merely stuck their big toes into th= e cold pool, whereas I did a belly-flop.  (With the accompanying pain,= <sigh>).  </div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14462294564= 10_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549= ">    They probably started out by thinking something like, "If p= erson A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to = mischief."  Sure it could.  But I approached the problem differen= tly:  I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to bu= y someone else's death.  But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people= might want to pay $1 each for that outcome.  That amounts to a crowds= ourced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits.  And I= also saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything w= hich we call wrong in today's society.  Anybody who is trying to argue= against an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely fl= awed status quo, even if they don't realize that.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id= =3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_= 3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    I also solved David Friedman's = "Hard problem", see his book, "The Machinery of Freedom",  the previou= sly-assumed difficulty or impossibility of providing for the defense of a f= ully libertarian or anarchistic society.  Perhaps my big advantage was= that I didn't know Friedman's "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under = that label, until long after I'd already solved it. </div><div dir=3D"= ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">     <br></div>= <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    &nbs= p;            Jim Bell</div><div dir=3D"ltr" = id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv2095771975yqt31= 85438982" id=3D"yiv2095771975yqt43260"><div class=3D"yiv2095771975gmail_quo= te" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56546"><br></div></div></div></div></d= iv> </div> </div> </div></body></html> ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160--

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>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer friends - see if anyo= ne thinks you have standing =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don't bother. =C2=A0It was somewhat of a joke for me to menti= on the "story royalty" line. =C2=A0 Since having spent thousands of hours i= n Federal prison law libraries, I studied many different areas of law, far = beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyright law. =C2=A0I am not aw= are that copyright law would protect such an idea. =C2=A0If I had written a= play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my own under copyright law. = =C2=A0But not merely the underlying idea. =C2=A0Now, nothing would prevent = one of these studios from giving me some sort of credit on a line at the en= d of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legally. =C2=A0I am much more= upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal the idea, than the fact= they 'stole' it. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I should also take the opportunity to point out that I wrote = my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware of, the previous dis= cussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson. =C2=A0(I didn't even have Internet ac= cess, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entirely unaware of the C= ypherpunks list; =C2=A0AP part one was actually published here by somebody = else.). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The major differences included: =C2=A0Tim May and Robin Hanso= n both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "assassi= nation markets", as being "abhorrent markets". =C2=A0See Cyphernomicon 16.1= 6.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason they di= dn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical outcome. = =C2=A0I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thought that= assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, precisely = because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries unneces= sary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclear weapo= ns), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' with a fa= r-fairer alternative. =C2=A0THEY merely stuck their big toes into the cold = pool, whereas I did a belly-flop. =C2=A0(With the accompanying pain, <sigh>= ). =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 They probably started out by thinking something like, "If per= son A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to mi= schief." =C2=A0Sure it could. =C2=A0But I approached the problem differentl= y: =C2=A0I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to buy = someone else's death. =C2=A0But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people m= ight want to pay $1 each for that outcome. =C2=A0That amounts to a crowdsou= rced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits. =C2=A0And I a= lso saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything whi= ch we call wrong in today's society. =C2=A0Anybody who is trying to argue a= gainst an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely flaw= ed status quo, even if they don't realize that. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I also solved David Friedman's "Hard problem", see his book, = "The Machinery of Freedom", =C2=A0the previously-assumed difficulty or impo= ssibility of providing for the defense of a fully libertarian or anarchisti= c society. =C2=A0Perhaps my big advantage was that I didn't know Friedman's= "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under that label, until long after I= 'd already solved it.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jim Bell ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f= ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, = sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaN= eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size= : 13px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56527"><div style=3D"font-family:= HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif= ; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56526"><div dir=3D"ltr= " id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56525"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" i= d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56524"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;"= >From:</span></b> Cari Machet <carimachet(a)gmail.com><br> <b><span sty= le=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> coderman <coderman(a)gmail.com&gt= ; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> cpunks <cyphe= rpunks(a)cpunks.org>; jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br> <b id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56921"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56920">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 30, 2015 8= :03 PM<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56923"><span style=3D"font-w= eight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56922">Subject:</span></b> R= e: The Black List<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56548"><br><div id=3D"yiv2095771975"><div id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56547"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549">>Law mother fucking suit ... i will contact my lawyer fri= ends - see if anyone thinks you have standing</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_= 0_1_1446229456410_56549">    Don't bother.  It was somewhat = of a joke for me to mention the "story royalty" line.   Since having s= pent thousands of hours in Federal prison law libraries, I studied many dif= ferent areas of law, far beyond criminal law and appeals, including copyrig= ht law.  I am not aware that copyright law would protect such an idea.=  If I had written a play or a script for a movie, THAT would be my ow= n under copyright law.  But not merely the underlying idea.  Now,= nothing would prevent one of these studios from giving me some sort of cre= dit on a line at the end of the show, but they wouldn't owe me money legall= y.  I am much more upset that they took TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to steal = the idea, than the fact they 'stole' it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_= 16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1= 446229456410_56549">    I should also take the opportunity to poi= nt out that I wrote my AP essay independently from, and completely unaware = of, the previous discussions by Tim May and Robin Hanson.  (I didn't e= ven have Internet access, except as a portal, until mid-1995, and was entir= ely unaware of the Cypherpunks list;  AP part one was actually publish= ed here by somebody else.).</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144622= 9456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_= 56549">    The major differences included:  Tim May and Robi= n Hanson both referred to the idea, the one that would one day be seen as "= assassination markets", as being "abhorrent markets".  See Cyphernomic= on 16.16.4. That they were repelled by the idea, presumably, is one reason = they didn't rhetorically follow the concept out to its ultimate, logical ou= tcome.  I, on the other hand, and totally unaware of their work, thoug= ht that assassination markets would actually be a truly wonderful idea, pre= cisely because of their capability to destroy governments, make militaries = unnecessary and indeed impossible to maintain (critically, including nuclea= r weapons), and completely replace the current 'criminal justice system' wi= th a far-fairer alternative.  THEY merely stuck their big toes into th= e cold pool, whereas I did a belly-flop.  (With the accompanying pain,= <sigh>).  </div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14462294564= 10_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549= ">    They probably started out by thinking something like, "If p= erson A can anonymously hire person B to kill person C, that could lead to = mischief."  Sure it could.  But I approached the problem differen= tly:  I saw that very few people would want to pay, say, $10,000 to bu= y someone else's death.  But I immediately also saw that 10,000 people= might want to pay $1 each for that outcome.  That amounts to a crowds= ourced decision, with its accompanying advantages and benefits.  And I= also saw that such a functioning system would deter virtually everything w= hich we call wrong in today's society.  Anybody who is trying to argue= against an AP-type system is inherently attempting to defend the hugely fl= awed status quo, even if they don't realize that.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id= =3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_= 3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    I also solved David Friedman's = "Hard problem", see his book, "The Machinery of Freedom",  the previou= sly-assumed difficulty or impossibility of providing for the defense of a f= ully libertarian or anarchistic society.  Perhaps my big advantage was= that I didn't know Friedman's "Hard Problem" even existed, at least under = that label, until long after I'd already solved it. </div><div dir=3D"= ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">     <br></div>= <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549">    &nbs= p;            Jim Bell</div><div dir=3D"ltr" = id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56549"><br></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv2095771975yqt31= 85438982" id=3D"yiv2095771975yqt43260"><div class=3D"yiv2095771975gmail_quo= te" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446229456410_56546"><br></div></div></div></div></d= iv> </div> </div> </div></body></html> ------=_Part_259692_252577611.1446314995160--

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