July 2018 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: [tor-talk] Automatic vulnerability scanning of Tor Network?
by Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

On 12/22/11 12:35 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: > I really appreciate that you're not working for people who wish to do > the Tor network harm. Please do consider the concerns of people in this > thread and weight your actions against those people. They too are trying > to help the network, the project, and the users. Yes, i agree, we can find a common point. We just all need to move in the same direction, with conflicts and constructive criticism, but in the same direction. > Hopefully we'll all meet at CCC for a mate to discuss this in person! Let's try to sketch down on a etterpad or trac ticket an idea on how to implement something like this in order to: - evaluating and pushing hardening of system/network security of Tor nodes - avoid/mitigate alerts and risks for Tor Operators That way we can try to match the needs perceived by all different parties, balancing the risk/return of the initiative. I'm gonna dump in this email a set of useful links collected during browsing to do that. We are probably not interested in Nessus & Metasploit AutoPwn, but it's important to know that anyone can just aggregate everything into a chain of automatic portscanning + vulnerability scanning + vulnerability exploiting. Python NMAP (A python library which helps in using nmap port scanner): http://code.google.com/p/python-nmap/ Python NMAP XML Parsing Scripts (nmap xml to sqlite): https://github.com/d1b/python-nmap-xml-output-parser Plugin Spotlight: Import Nmap XML Results Into Nessus http://blog.tenablesecurity.com/2009/08/plugin-spotlight-import-nmap-xml-re… MetaSploit AutoPwn Integration with Nessus: http://www.defenceindepth.net/2009/11/metasploit-autopwn-hacking-made-simpl… Tor NetworkScanner/ExitAuthority: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torflow.git/tree/HEAD:/NetworkScanners/ExitAu… Scripts to extract exit-node, relays and their listening port: https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor.git/tree/HEAD:/contrib -naif _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: [tor-talk] Automatic vulnerability scanning of Tor Network?
by Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

On 12/22/11 12:35 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: > I really appreciate that you're not working for people who wish to do > the Tor network harm. Please do consider the concerns of people in this > thread and weight your actions against those people. They too are trying > to help the network, the project, and the users. Yes, i agree, we can find a common point. We just all need to move in the same direction, with conflicts and constructive criticism, but in the same direction. > Hopefully we'll all meet at CCC for a mate to discuss this in person! Let's try to sketch down on a etterpad or trac ticket an idea on how to implement something like this in order to: - evaluating and pushing hardening of system/network security of Tor nodes - avoid/mitigate alerts and risks for Tor Operators That way we can try to match the needs perceived by all different parties, balancing the risk/return of the initiative. I'm gonna dump in this email a set of useful links collected during browsing to do that. We are probably not interested in Nessus & Metasploit AutoPwn, but it's important to know that anyone can just aggregate everything into a chain of automatic portscanning + vulnerability scanning + vulnerability exploiting. Python NMAP (A python library which helps in using nmap port scanner): http://code.google.com/p/python-nmap/ Python NMAP XML Parsing Scripts (nmap xml to sqlite): https://github.com/d1b/python-nmap-xml-output-parser Plugin Spotlight: Import Nmap XML Results Into Nessus http://blog.tenablesecurity.com/2009/08/plugin-spotlight-import-nmap-xml-re… MetaSploit AutoPwn Integration with Nessus: http://www.defenceindepth.net/2009/11/metasploit-autopwn-hacking-made-simpl… Tor NetworkScanner/ExitAuthority: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torflow.git/tree/HEAD:/NetworkScanners/ExitAu… Scripts to extract exit-node, relays and their listening port: https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor.git/tree/HEAD:/contrib -naif _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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workshop free software 2013
by Luis Felipe RM 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

Dear * I am sending you a call for papers for a workshop on free software, free culture, and open access. We are planning to have a whole track of our program dedicated for Aaron Swartz, called 'Academia Livre' (Free University). We are accepting suggestions of activists who can talk about Free Software tools for scientific research. Send your contributions and suggestions to us in case you are interested! all the best, Luis Felipe. ------------------------------< cut here >---------------------------------- International Free Software Workshop 2013 ----------------------------------------- >From the pioneer software sharing communities created around UNIX to the community of Emacs hackers and beyond, Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) development has been growing exponentially, following the popularization and widespread usage of personal computers and the Internet. Not only have FOSS communities expanded globally, but also its body of literature, becoming relevant for computer scientists and engineers, as well as for researchers in the humanities and social sciences. In the past decade, FOSS research was consolidated around questions such as individual motivation, collaborative practices, issues of scale, governance, and coordination of development efforts, as well as problems of political economy, involving the study of economic models, and forms of political mobilization around Free Software. Our main goal in this workshop is to evaluate the state-of-the-art in interdisciplinary research, exploring technical, legal, socioeconomic, and cultural aspects of FOSS. We will focus on the aforementioned research topics by discussing new contributions to the literature. We invite paper submissions from any academic discipline on the following and related topics: - FOSS licensing and related legal aspects, copyright disputes, software patents, GPL compliance, collective and individual ownership of code; - FOSS engineering, development methodologies, source code metrics, and software quality assessment; - Social, cultural, and economic studies of FOSS, involving qualitative and quantitative studies of development and activist communities; - FOSS case studies: in-depth analysis of cases of implementation, migration, success, or failure of FOSS projects worldwide; - FOSS expansion and ongoing transformation: beyond software development and towards Free Culture, Open Hardware, Open Access, online independent journalism, and collaborative Internet-based projects. About FISL and WSL ------------------ The International Free Software Workshop (WSL) is a scientific event which takes place within the International Free Software Forum (FISL). Since 2000, FISL is organized by Free Software activists in Porto Alegre, Brazil, and represents one of the biggest and most important FOSS conferences in the world. WSL welcomes papers from different disciplinary traditions, offering the opportunity for professors, researchers, students, and other professionals to present and discuss original research developed at research centers, companies, or universities which develop, use, disseminate, and/or reflect critically upon FOSS in its technical, legal, socioeconomic, and cultural aspects. This call for papers can be found translated in other languages at: http://softwarelivre.org/wsl Information for Authors ----------------------- - Papers should be written in English, Portuguese, or Spanish - Papers should have a maximum length of 20 printed pages, including abstract, figures and references - Submissions must be in PDF (following the SBC template at http://tux.gseis.ucla.edu/template_SBC/) - Papers should be sent my email to luisfelipe/*/at/*/ucla.edu Papers will be evaluated by academic reviewers with experience in FOSS research, considering technical content and relevance for the workshop. All accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings and will be available in the open repository of the WSL community page (http://softwarelivre.org/wsl) under a Creative Commons license: Attribution 3.0 unported (CC-BY-3.0). In addition to the conference proceedings, the organizers are planning to publish a book -- probably in digital format -- with the best articles submitted to WSL. For co-authored papers, the authors must define one presenter for WSL2013. The presenter will receive a promotional code to register free of charge for FISL. Accommodation and transportation expenses are not funded by FISL or by the WSL. Important Dates --------------- - Deadline for the submission of proposals: March 15th, 2013 - Publication of accepted proposals: Late April, 2013 - Deadline for final papers (camera-ready): May 31st, 2013 - International Free Software Forum (FISL), Porto Alegre, Brazil July 3rd - 6th, 2013 - Workshop Free Software (WSL), Porto Alegre, Brazil July 4th - 5th, 2013 Organizing Committee -------------------- General Chair ------------- Carlos D. Santos (Universidade de Brasilia, Brazil) Program Committee Chair ----------------------- Luis Felipe R. Murillo (University of California, Los Angeles, USA) Local Arrangements and Publication Chair ---------------------------------------- Paulo Meirelles (Universidade de Sao Paulo, Brazil) Publicity Co-Chairs ------------------- Imed Hammouda (Tampere University of Technology, Finland) Gregorio Robles (Universidad Rey Juan Carlos, Spain) Rafael Evangelista (Universidade Estadual de Campinas, Brazil) Veronica Xhardez (Flacso/CONICET - SoLAr, Argentina) Yuri Takhteyev (University of Toronto, Canada) Program Committee ----------------- Ana Cristina Matte (Universidade Federal de Minas Gerais, Brazil) Andre Leme Fleury (Universidade de Sao Paulo) Anthony Wasserman (Carnegie Mellon University, USA) Antonio Terceiro (Universidade Federal da Bahia, Brazil) Carolina Rossini (Electronic Frontier Foundation, USA) Cilia Ralha (Universidade de Brasilia, Brazil) Christiana Freitas (Universidade de Brasilia, Brazil) Christopher Kelty (University of California, Los Angeles, USA) Daniel Batista (Universidade de Sao Paulo, Brazil) Fabio Kon (Universidade de Sao Paulo, Brazil) Gabriella Coleman (McGill University, Canada) Islene Garcia (Universidade Estadual de Campinas, Brazil) Jelena Karanovic (New York University, USA) Lilly Nguyen (University of California, Los Angeles, USA) Masayuki Hatta (Surugadai University, Japan) Tim Davies (University of Southampton, UK) Stefan Koch (Bogazici University, Turkey) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "science-liberation-front" group. 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[IP] A Clearer Picture on Voter ID - New York Times
by David Farber 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

#[1]alternate [2]NYTimes.com Opinion RSS February 3, 2008 Op-Ed Contributors A Clearer Picture on Voter ID By JIMMY CARTER and JAMES A. BAKER III THIS is a major election year. Unfortunately, our two major political parties Democratic and Republican continue to disagree on some of the rules that apply to the administration of our elections. This divide is perhaps most contentious when the issue becomes one of whether voters should present photo identification to vote. Twenty-seven states require or request some form of ID to vote. Supporters of this policy argue that if voters identify themselves before voting, election fraud will be reduced. Opponents of an ID requirement fear it will disenfranchise voters, especially the poor, members of minority groups and the elderly, who are less likely than other voters to have suitable identification. The debate is polarized because most of the proponents are Republicans and most of the opponents are Democrats. In 2005, we led a bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform and concluded that both parties concerns were legitimate a free and fair election requires both ballot security and full access to voting. We offered a proposal to bridge the partisan divide by suggesting a uniform voter photo ID, based on the federal Real ID Act of 2005, to be phased in over five years. To help with the transition, states would provide free voter photo ID cards for eligible citizens; mobile units would be sent out to provide the IDs and register voters. (Of the 21 members of the commission, only three dissented on the requirement for an ID.) No state has yet accepted our proposal. Whats more, when it comes to ID laws, confusion reigns. The laws on the books, mainly backed by Republicans, have not made it easy enough for voters to acquire an ID. At the same time, Democrats have tended to try to block voter ID legislation outright instead of seeking to revise that legislation to promote accessibility. When lower courts have considered challenges to state laws on the question of access, their decisions have not been consistent. And in too many instances, individual judges have appeared to vote along partisan lines. Fortunately, the Supreme Court has taken on a case involving a challenge to Indianas voter ID law. The court, which heard arguments last month and is expected to render a judgment this term, has the power finally to bring clarity to this crucial issue. A study by American Universitys Center for Democracy and Election Management led by Robert Pastor, who also organized the voting commission illustrates the problem at hand. The center found that in three states with ID requirements Indiana, Mississippi and Maryland only about 1.2 percent of registered voters lacked a photo ID. While the sample was small, and the margin of error was therefore high, we were pleased to see that so few registered voters lacked photo IDs. That was pretty good news. The bad news, however, was this: While the numbers of registered voters without valid photo IDs were few, the groups least likely to have them were women, African-Americans and Democrats. Surveys in other states, of course, may well present a different result. We hope the court will approach the challenges posed by the Indiana law in a bipartisan or nonpartisan way. As we stated in our 2005 report, voter ID laws are not a problem in and of themselves. Rather, the current crop of laws are not being phased in gradually and in a fair manner that would increase not reduce voter participation. The recent decision by the Department of Homeland Security to delay putting in place the Real ID Act for at least five years suggests that states should move to photo ID requirements gradually and should do more to ensure that free photo IDs are easily available. The Supreme Court faces a difficult and important decision. If the justices divide along partisan lines, as lower courts have, they would add to the political polarization in the country. We hope that they will find a nonpartisan path that combines both legitimate concerns ballot security and full access to voting and underscores the importance of applying these laws in a fair and gradual way. It is also important to remember that our commissions report addressed other pressing election concerns. There is much more that Congress and state legislatures need to do to improve the electoral process and restore confidence in our democracy. We have outlined 87 such steps in our commission report. In the meantime, the Supreme Court can lead the way on the voter ID issue. It has the opportunity to inspire the states, our national leaders and the entire country to bridge the partisan divide on a matter that is important to our democracy. It can support voter ID laws that make it easy to vote but tough to cheat. Jimmy Carter was the 39th president. 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Lucrative update
by Patrick 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

Lucrative release 4 is out. I know many people are used to seeing releases numbered like "0.000001", "0.000002", "2.0.3.0.14.657" etc. but release numbering systems are essentially arbitrary in nature so don't get excited as Lucrative goes toward version 50+. This release is a fairly minor one, but included some changes such as the client name that I wanted to get out as soon as possible. There is also a new development weblog at http://lucrative.thirdhost.com/weblog/. I went through an install with someone over IRC last night and made a blog entry summarizing the install notes. I recommend reading the notes before attempting an install. I am glad to help with an install, drop me a note at patrick(a)lfcgate.com if you have trouble. Some documentation on the various entities in the Lucrative system is now available on the website, http://lucrative.thirdhost.com/documentation.php but more is needed and coming. If Lucrative is interesting to you, please consider helping in any way you can: Feedback Installation reports Suggestions Comments Criticism Feature requests Source code patches Donations Are all very much welcomed. And criticism is more useful to me than praise. My sincere thanks to everyone who has participated so far by installing, testing, providing feedback, spreading the word, and donating. And finally I just received word from SourceForge that the project registration for Lucrative has been approved. Regards, Patrick -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> mQGiBD5ECKcRBADUvjXHwLtxIyS4AyjBs/dFtN6rdeP18Fhzh1hD5fJwkFevqY9Z I1ASROTh6eXYF7pU5sEvbcPshHyTB41ZtTqZvQvpwWN0fUzOuutuI0mtC5UPp9Rz j47SdWLdEXNHjwnHDCYSyqtqZu8GujGRQybR0eP3NIh/NwbSDUKdgz7IjwCg//Jo UtjP3zUFobm/0UYA+CJ5krED/091x9Js0gwNwvjbzM8DqO+r8qNz0kXI13FkrPRk QNd37lxt6m2m8HZD1WYM2wKwtMzHSwJcWzaDZ/tNc+ppYjzpw0EQCh9FqjGs8Vau guF6PA1M8lJTCcLKaL4e7ynic+PAw5Xa/tdOYgFCG+eLMU5RLvzRCYoOLIjgMJLJ yG98BACAMlDmFVYgC/UKvzZmHfZ5CtCKd8sPfCXrYLu5NeFRE0LR6D6zjzmhi1xX okfreR5o3T/y78VBM98js+m2/+7Z0AElqydeW/RnV1zqwDGjDr9z2MgARf3yLAbs n3BU8Fz61RwvHy6cRkT+2dR2f69QQUSpkupvLwZIGX/iwm4uKLQdUGF0cmljayA8 cGF0cmlja0BsZmNnYXRlLmNvbT6JAE4EEBECAA4FAj5ECKcECwMCAQIZAQAKCRBb mvb9yuOVfaA2AKDAu5tDj9F2KI8cJMrKKkQRAcUyxACg6/bei7lUJH+E5igJqGRx SjKrRA65BA0EPkQIpxAQAPkYoH5aBmF6Q5CV3AVsh4bsYezNRR8O2OCjecbJ3HoL rOQ/40aUtjBKU9d8AhZIgLUV5SmZqZ8HdNP/46HFliBOmGW42A3uEF2rthccUdhQ yiJXQym+lehWKzh4XAvb+ExN1eOqRsz7zhfoKp0UYeOEqU/Rg4Soebbvj6dDRgjG zB13VyQ4SuLE8OiOE2eXTpITYfbb6yUOF/32mPfIfHmwch04dfv2wXPEgxEmK0Ng w+Po1gr9oSgmC66prrNlD6IAUwGgfNaroxIe+g8qzh90hE/K8xfzpEDp19J3tkIt AjbBJstoXp18mAkKjX4t7eRdefXUkk+bGI78KqdLfDL2Qle3CH8IF3KiutapQvMF 6PlTETlPtvFuuUs4INoBp1ajFOmPQFXz0AfGy0OplK33TGSGSfgMg71l6RfUodNQ +PVZX9x2Uk89PY3bzpnhV5JZzf24rnRPxfx2vIPFRzBhznzJZv8V+bv9kV7HAarT W56NoKVyOtQa8L9GAFgr5fSI/VhOSdvNILSd5JEHNmszbDgNRR0PfIizHHxbLY72 88kjwEPwpVsYjY67VYy4XTjTNP18F1dDox0YbN4zISy1Kv884bEpQBgRjXyEpwpy 1obEAxnIByl6ypUM2Zafq9AKUJsCRtMIPWakXUGfnHy9iUsiGSa6q6Jew1XrPdYX AAICD/wKwtF7Y4NKBe8PQ6jDbjWziiTv9Ac/EnRTJDQEoqgLa2LyE+6Ahw/VPGvp mfxkD2MKxC9E7kYVmasn6sHnSpvAv3e7O1Bqbo/qLzzCcJQ5VCurZ+elRM1GZ4Oc fM19FPKutb0/JFEv0nrqS4BGkF7WFBbu5dKYl/GIO7Co1mAerFIb719dOwMPVEIz OT08u8uB9jyR8gEElf+CVuNfOUkrUGg4HS4SbmTTrCSz3/8n5PkquSuAyjCB/dwM ZsZwA0/TTR8sDYlmlf9xPj5PGpGnV9OUwfig6eE0eWtRFeasmz0uiX+yp45ABtNh 6EXP/PFaBgXi9omXXjeeFYfpDvmfA6izvTIQfXTV6V9ZWrBfXarM+GQ+6guXWVbd 9fXvmCr982LkzuKQrK1OpRXBMUapXL+tOy/LYzz91InqKKhgPNGa12fvotZ4LzlM iqoM+Hpz5L9B5We1Ph0lD6RBVXDCqd+P8extnY/7AaDy7tC0UghaAaUuEZXJQPIc oQ3QGbpjM0nGe/VZN5EZhljau0NNENFaU56cOpvOhcO04gLGNNc2NS+rIpTMsaHh o1CG90c5zZZJuUbyx0mIHriNQXDgEwunSZPQorKK9KSppyyjeuOyi5F/mBBPXeyT weLhLqLvAr9se/+Z3aQvMADJi8zUZtGggLTw+N9R5XSwtSh2R4kARgQYEQIABgUC PkQIpwAKCRBbmvb9yuOVfWayAKC+mBhHdn1XZ5uH0RocAyJ32hx2kgCePyhB+IqM TjWLDLarQxcPYhbkFi4= =nx1M -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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Announcement 5th APES Workshop
by Claudia Diaz 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

Dear, we are happy to announce the 5th Anonymity and Privacy in Electronic Services Workshop. In the first part of the workshop, we will have two invited talks (by Jan Camenisch and Dogan Kesdogan). During the second part, the research partners of APES will present the results of the last year. You are kindly invited to attend. In order to estimate the number of participants, we ask you to register by sending an email to Pila Noe (Pela.Noe(a)esat.kuleuven.ac.be) Feel free to forward this email to anyone who may be interested on the topic. For more information on this project, you may look at the APES website (https://www.cosic.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/apes) 5th APES WORKSHOP ----------------- Date: Tuesday, November 23rd Location: Auditorium A (ESAT, K.U. Leuven) Kasteelpark Arenberg 10 B-3001 Leuven-Heverlee, Belgium Fee: Free of charge. We kindly ask you to register in advance by sending an email to our secretary Pila Noe (Pela.Noe(a)esat.kuleuven.ac.be) AGENDA ------ 13:00-13:10 Welcome and Introduction by Bart Preneel (COSIC/KULeuven) 13:10-13:50 Invited talk: "Security and Privacy for E-Transactions" by Jan Camenisch (IBM Zurich Research Laboratory) 13:50-14:30 Invited talk: "Personal risk management" by Dogan Kesdogan (University of Aachen) 14:30-14:50 Coffee break 14:50-15:30 Anonymous communication infrastructure by Claudia Diaz (COSIC/KULeuven) 15:30-16:10 Controlled anonymous email by Vincent Naessens (DISTRINET/KULAK) 16:10-16:30 Controlled anonymous databases by Svetla Nikova (COSIC/KULeuven) _______________________________________________ NymIP-res-group mailing list NymIP-res-group(a)nymip.org http://www.nymip.org/mailman/listinfo/nymip-res-group --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: [IP] I strongly afree with this djf Google search and
by Lee Tien 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

seizure For IP if you wish. Libraries have long sought to protect circulation records out of concern for both privacy and freedom to read. Libraries and the American Library Association have been openly fighting government orders for their records. See http://www.komotv.com/news/story.asp?ID=33363 ("Small Town Library Takes On The Feds") and http://www.ctlibrarians.org/news/patriotact.html (discussing Connecticut library NSL case) Indeed, some libraries have instituted records purging policies to protect against government subpoenas. http://www.infoshop.org/alibrarians/public_html/article.php? story=03/08/01/5059833 http://www.fhsu.edu/forsyth_lib/copyright/PatriotActFAQs.shtml ("While there are some service benefits to keeping detailed records, the risks of compromising your privacy outweigh these benefits. Therefore, we are planning to purge all patron records with your personally identifiable information on them once the materials are returned and the fines are paid.") What about search engines? The data retention issue is only getting worse from a privacy standpoint; the EU is moving toward mandatory telecom traffic data retention. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/02/ap/world/ mainD8E8BKK00.shtml >BRUSSELS, Belgium, Dec. 2, 2005 >(AP) European justice and interior ministers agreed Friday on plans >binding telecommunications companies to retain records of phone >call and e-mails for a minimum of six months for use in >investigations into terrorism and other serious crimes. For more on EU data retention, see http://www.statewatch.org/eu-data- retention.htm Lee At 1:47 PM -0500 12/3/05, David Farber wrote: >Begin forwarded message: > >From: "Richard M. Smith" <rms(a)computerbytesman.com> >Date: December 3, 2005 8:57:59 AM EST >To: EPIC_IDOF(a)mailman.epic.org >Subject: [EPIC_IDOF] Google search and seizure > >http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/ >2005/12/03/ >google_search_and_seizure?mode=PF > >Google search and seizure >By Robert Kuttner | December 3, 2005 >The Boston Globe > >THE NEW York Times recently reported that in a North Carolina >strangulation-murder trial, prosecutors introduced as evidence the >fact that >the defendant's Google searches had included the words ''neck" and >''snap." >The Times noted that the evidence had come from the defendant's home >computer, but could just as easily have come from Google. > >Google's whole business-model includes keeping track of users' >searches by >putting ''cookies" (tracking devices) on users' own computers, and >then >using the results to customize ad offerings that pop up when we use >their >ingenious free search service. > >In the era of the misnamed USA Patriot Act, which allows >warrantless police >searches that are not even disclosed to the target, Google plus >Dick Cheney >is a recipe for undoing the liberties for which the original >patriots of the >American Revolution bled and died. Under the Patriot Act, anyone >suspected >of enabling terrorism can be subjected to these fishing expeditions. >Depending on a prosecutor's whims, that includes all of us. > >In the 18th-century era of star-chamber courts and despotic >monarchs, the US >Constitution put an end to government as prosecutor, judge, and jury. >Unreasonable searches and seizures were explicitly prohibited by >the Sixth >Amendment. People (not just citizens) were guaranteed the right to >confront >their accusers and to know the charges against them. There were no >''national security" loopholes. > >Google's internal slogan is, charmingly, ''Don't be evil." Well, the >interaction of cyber-snooping and the unreasonable searches >authorized by >the Patriot Act is pure evil. > >Herewith an idea that I am putting into the public domain, which >could make >some computer-whiz a billionaire: One of Google's competitors could >guarantee users of its search engines that all data keeping track of >searches will be permanently discarded after 24 hours. The search >process >could still learn a broad pattern of users' purchasing tastes, if >we wish to >be party to a bargain of being marketed to in exchange for the >convenience >of free searches. > >The same libertarian computer entrepreneur could offer e-mail >software, in >which old messages are permanently erased unless the user >deliberately opts >to retain them. > >Google, like Microsoft and IBM before it, may be the current market >leader >in whiz-bang technology based on sheer inventive genius. But if >Google is >not careful, some competitor with a genuine regard for privacy could >displace it. > >We all grew up vaguely knowing that 20th century technology, under >fairly >narrow circumstances, could invade privacy. The phone company kept >track of >everyone's calling records. These could be subpoenaed. Prosecutors and >detectives, with warrants approved by judges, could deploy telephone >wiretaps. There were occasional abuses, as in the witch hunts of >the 1950s, >but for the most part these technological invasions of privacy were >used >against bad guys, not for broad fishing expeditions. And there was >no e-mail >and no Google. > >Today, however, the explosion of computer technology coupled with the >discarding of prosecutorial restraints is leading to a Big-Brother >society. >Unless we pay attention, the technology is so seductive that we become >enablers of our own enslavement. > >The universal information that is so empowering could be enslaving in >another respect. Check out a little satire available on the >Internet titled >EPIC 2014. It is a short, dystopian picture of the next 10 years. > >EPIC stands for the Evolving Personalized Information Construct. In >this >grim view of the near future, Google merges with Amazon and becomes >''Google-zon," the ultimate information market monopoly. > >By 2014, the press as we know it no longer exists. Google-zon >usurps the >press's advertising base by ultra-customizing all ads. There is no >longer >the traditional craft of reporter or editor. Newspapers go out of >business >or become small niche products. > >''Everyone contributes now -- from blog entries to phone-cam >images, to >video reports, to full investigations," the video says. Everyone is >a news >producer as well as a news consumer, and it's almost impossible to >differentiate journalism from junk. Computers strip and splice >items, based >on each user's past interests, pattern of use, and declared >preferences. >News is prioritized according to how many users read each item. Ads >are >similarly customized. We are universally connected, but universally >fragmented and universally vulnerable to misinformation and >government and >commercial snooping. > >The marketplace may solve this dilemma by offering privacy-sensitive >products, but entrepreneurs may also make the problem worse. The >moment >cries out for political as well as commercial leadership. > >Correction: Last week's column referred to Warren Tolman. It should >have >been Steven Tolman. > >Robert Kuttner, co-editor of The American Prospect, can be reached at >kuttner(a)prospect.org. His column appears regularly in the Globe. > >_______________________________________________ >EPIC_IDOF mailing list >EPIC_IDOF(a)mailman.epic.org >https://mailman.epic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/epic_idof > > >------------------------------------- >You are subscribed as tien(a)well.sf.ca.us >To manage your subscription, go to > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip > >Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- >people/ -- ********************************** ... it is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state. -- Bruce Schneier Lee Tien Senior Staff Attorney Electronic Frontier Foundation 454 Shotwell Street San Francisco, CA 94110 (415) 436-9333 x 102 (tel) (415) 436-9993 (fax) tien(a)eff.org ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as eugen(a)leitl.org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]

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by David Farber 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

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[IP] A Clearer Picture on Voter ID - New York Times
by David Farber 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

#[1]alternate [2]NYTimes.com Opinion RSS February 3, 2008 Op-Ed Contributors A Clearer Picture on Voter ID By JIMMY CARTER and JAMES A. BAKER III THIS is a major election year. Unfortunately, our two major political parties Democratic and Republican continue to disagree on some of the rules that apply to the administration of our elections. This divide is perhaps most contentious when the issue becomes one of whether voters should present photo identification to vote. Twenty-seven states require or request some form of ID to vote. Supporters of this policy argue that if voters identify themselves before voting, election fraud will be reduced. Opponents of an ID requirement fear it will disenfranchise voters, especially the poor, members of minority groups and the elderly, who are less likely than other voters to have suitable identification. The debate is polarized because most of the proponents are Republicans and most of the opponents are Democrats. In 2005, we led a bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform and concluded that both parties concerns were legitimate a free and fair election requires both ballot security and full access to voting. We offered a proposal to bridge the partisan divide by suggesting a uniform voter photo ID, based on the federal Real ID Act of 2005, to be phased in over five years. To help with the transition, states would provide free voter photo ID cards for eligible citizens; mobile units would be sent out to provide the IDs and register voters. (Of the 21 members of the commission, only three dissented on the requirement for an ID.) No state has yet accepted our proposal. Whats more, when it comes to ID laws, confusion reigns. The laws on the books, mainly backed by Republicans, have not made it easy enough for voters to acquire an ID. At the same time, Democrats have tended to try to block voter ID legislation outright instead of seeking to revise that legislation to promote accessibility. When lower courts have considered challenges to state laws on the question of access, their decisions have not been consistent. And in too many instances, individual judges have appeared to vote along partisan lines. Fortunately, the Supreme Court has taken on a case involving a challenge to Indianas voter ID law. The court, which heard arguments last month and is expected to render a judgment this term, has the power finally to bring clarity to this crucial issue. A study by American Universitys Center for Democracy and Election Management led by Robert Pastor, who also organized the voting commission illustrates the problem at hand. The center found that in three states with ID requirements Indiana, Mississippi and Maryland only about 1.2 percent of registered voters lacked a photo ID. While the sample was small, and the margin of error was therefore high, we were pleased to see that so few registered voters lacked photo IDs. That was pretty good news. The bad news, however, was this: While the numbers of registered voters without valid photo IDs were few, the groups least likely to have them were women, African-Americans and Democrats. Surveys in other states, of course, may well present a different result. We hope the court will approach the challenges posed by the Indiana law in a bipartisan or nonpartisan way. As we stated in our 2005 report, voter ID laws are not a problem in and of themselves. Rather, the current crop of laws are not being phased in gradually and in a fair manner that would increase not reduce voter participation. The recent decision by the Department of Homeland Security to delay putting in place the Real ID Act for at least five years suggests that states should move to photo ID requirements gradually and should do more to ensure that free photo IDs are easily available. The Supreme Court faces a difficult and important decision. If the justices divide along partisan lines, as lower courts have, they would add to the political polarization in the country. We hope that they will find a nonpartisan path that combines both legitimate concerns ballot security and full access to voting and underscores the importance of applying these laws in a fair and gradual way. It is also important to remember that our commissions report addressed other pressing election concerns. There is much more that Congress and state legislatures need to do to improve the electoral process and restore confidence in our democracy. We have outlined 87 such steps in our commission report. In the meantime, the Supreme Court can lead the way on the voter ID issue. It has the opportunity to inspire the states, our national leaders and the entire country to bridge the partisan divide on a matter that is important to our democracy. It can support voter ID laws that make it easy to vote but tough to cheat. Jimmy Carter was the 39th president. 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[drone-list] North Dakota Sheriff's Dept preparing to deploy UAVs
by Gregory Foster 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

@sUASnews (Mar 4) - "Grand Forks Sheriff's Department launching UAS program" by Chris Bieri of @GFHerald: http://www.suasnews.com/2012/03/12582/grand-forks-sheriff%E2%80%99s-departm… It looks like the Grand Forks Herald has been reporting a LOT of articles about UAS's: http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/search/order/date/keywords/UAS In part, that must be because the University of North Dakota has embraced the opportunity to become a locus for research, education, and training for unmanned aircraft systems: http://www.uasresearch.com/home.aspx It is therefore appropriate that The Center for UAS Research, Education and Training's homepage prominently features an image of a Department of Homeland Security Customs and Border Protection General Atomics MQ-9 Reaper "Predator B" drone, as five of DHS's seven MQ-9's are based in North Dakota at the Grand Forks Air Force Base: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-9_Reaper#US_Homeland_Securi… In December, Brian Bennett [ @thingsblowup ] of the LA Times reported " Local police say they have used two unarmed Predators based at Grand Forks Air Force Base to fly at least two dozen surveillance flights since June" in the first widely reported case of American citizens being arrested by local authorities with the assistance of drone surveillance provided by federal authorities upon request from a local law enforcement agency: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/10/nation/la-na-drone-arrest-20111211 On September 13, 2010, North Dakota Senator Byron L. Dorgan convened a field hearing "at 8 a.m. in the Red River Valley Room of the Memorial Union, University of North Dakota, Grand Forks" on the subject of "The Integration of Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UASs) Into the National Airspace System (NAS): Fulfilling Imminent Operational and Training Requirements". North Dakota Representative Earl Pomeroy was also in attendance, helping convene a check-in meeting to spur cooperation between the FAA and Defense officials. Secrecy News' Steven Aftergood [ @saftergood ] archived a copy of the complete transcript of the meeting, including all statements by witnesses and prepared testimony included in the record: http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2010_hr/uas.html Senator Dorgan described the context for the meeting in his opening statement, The hearing is about the subject of unmanned aerial vehicles, and most particularly, the issue of training and operations for UAVs in this region. Grand Forks and this region of North Dakota is slated to become a major UAV center. We will have the Predators and the Global Hawks. We'll have fleets of Global Hawks and Predators stationed here at the Grand Forks Air Force Base. We have Homeland Security, which flies UAVs here. The University of North Dakota Center for Aerospace Science is designated by law and in the DOD descriptions as the center for UAV research. I did that because we fly unmanned aerial vehicles in all kinds of weather, and I had visited Nellis and Creach a number of times and discovered they do quite well when it's warm, flying over desert sand, but they'll be flying them in other areas of the country as well, and the world, and having a center for research of UAVs here, connected to the Air Force and the University of North Dakota, one of the--probably the preeminent aviation school in the world, just made a lot of sense. The Senator goes on to describe reasons for convening the meeting and mentions a kickoff roundtable discussion 19 months earlier: Here at the University of North Dakota, at the Center for Research for UAVs, there's a lot of work going on, on sensitive technologies and radar and so on, on just this very subject. About a year ago, February 16, 2009, we met in this room, not in a hearing, but in a roundtable discussion, and we had a very substantial discussion about what needed to be done and the timelines to do it, in which to create routine training and operation capability for UAVs here in this region. We had the Air Force and the FAA talk about creating a working group, and from that meeting, a working group was created and has been working between then and now. The February 2009 confluence of "Federal and state dignitaries" in Grand Forks coincided with the opening of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Unmanned Aircraft Operations Center of North Dakota. http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/newsroom/news_releases/archives/2009_news_releas… The reason for the presence of drones in Grand Forks can be dated to 2005, when then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld issued a " report to the Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) Commission [which] noted the strategic importance of maintaining an air base in the north central United States and specifically cited the Grand Forks base for an 'emerging mission' involving UAVs, the fastest growing mission area in the Air Force." http://conrad.senate.gov/pressroom/record.cfm?id=276203 In the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Commission's Final Report to the President (Sep 8 2005), page 151 (Chapter 1, "Air Force") indicates the Grand Forks Air Force Base mission was realigned from a KC-135 tanker hub "to include the Department of Defensebs intent to bed down a family of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs)": http://www.brac.gov/finalreport.html The drones have had nests prepared to come home to roost for quite some time, much longer than might be gauged by the amount of welcome attention garnered by a controversial Congressional mandate in the FAA Reauthorization and Reform Act of 2012: " Not later than 270 days after the date of enactment of this Act [(February 13, 2012)], the Secretary of Transportation, in consultation with representatives of the aviation industry, Federal agencies that employ unmanned aircraft systems technology in the national airspace system, and the unmanned aircraft systems industry, shall develop a comprehensive plan to safely accelerate the integration of civil unmanned aircraft systems into the national airspace system." http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2012/02/faa-uas.html http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h658/show It is important to understand the scope of the bureaucratic inertia (and agility) that has been painstakingly transformed into kinetic motion over time as well as the actors involved, their dispositions, and constraints (or lack thereof). The unmanned aircraft systems industry is represented first and foremost by the Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International [ @auvsi ] which lobbies Congress (and presumably other "government, industry, and academia" officials) on behalf of its more than 7,000 members and "2,100 member organizations from 60 allied countries": <http://www.auvsi.org/home/aboutus/>http://www.auvsi.org/home/aboutus/ Lobbyists from AUVSI frequently speak with elected officials, 53 of whom are members of the Congressional Unmanned Systems Caucus [ @CUSCaucus ], co-chaired by Representatives Howard P. "Buck" McKeon (R-CA-25) and Henry Cuellar (D-TX-28): http://unmannedsystemscaucus.mckeon.house.gov/ Representative Buck McKeon also speaks directly to AUVSI members, as in his keynote at the AUVSI Unmanned Systems Program Review (Feb 7-9), here documented by Zaid Jilani of Republic Report: http://www.republicreport.org/2012/mckeon-drone-lobby-speech/ http://www.auvsi.org/events/auvsievents/auvsisunmannedsystemsprogramreview/… During his keynote, CodePink co-founder @MedeaBenjamin interrupted the proceedings and was forcibly removed. "War Bucks" McKeon, unruffled, continued: " Wouldnbt we all like to cut our swords, and pull our ploughshares and live in total world peace? Ibll tell ya, it's not...thatbs not happening." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsLLVW88k20<http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2011/08/hijacked-by-code-pink…> http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-mckeon-auvsi-drone-20120208,… Finally, returning to the theme of the original link, here is a list of all currently planned upcoming AUVSI events, including a webinar March 14th titled "UAVs Take to the Sky for Law Enforcement": http://www.auvsi.org/AUVSI/Events/Calendar/?ShowAsList=True gf -- Gregory Foster || gfoster(a)entersection.org @gregoryfoster<> http://entersection.com/ _______________________________________________ drone-list mailing list drone-list(a)lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/drone-list If you would like to receive a daily digest, click "yes" (once you click above) next to "would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest?" 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