July 2018 - cypherpunks-legacy

cypherpunks@toad.com is going away
by John Gilmore 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

The cypherpunks list degenerated a long time ago to the point where I have no idea why more than 500 people are still receiving it every day. As part of cleaning up the email system on toad.com, I plan to shut down the cypherpunks-unedited list, which receives all the traffic sent to cypherpunks(a)toad.com, within the next week or two. I suggest that anyone who wants to talk or listen about encryption should send mail to: cryptography-request(a)wasabisystems.com with a one-line plain text message saying "subscribe". This will begin the process of subscribing them to the Cryptography mailing list, which is edited to remove irrelevant postings and to keep the volume down and the discussion focused. (I tried to do this with the cypherpunks list some years ago, but was shouted down by people who complained of "censorship". So I just left it unedited, with the expectable result that serious discussions deserted it.) If you were subscribed to the cypherpunks-unedited(a)toad.com list because you like to collect spam, talk with me personally and I'll see if I can help you. I have a large collection :-). The old "cypherpunks-announce" list was superseded many months ago by "meetingpunks(a)cryptorights.org". Cypherpunks-announce is no longer in existence. There remains a single encryption-related mailing list on toad.com, "coderpunks" which is for people who write code. John Gilmore --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com ----- End forwarded message -----

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UK internet filtering
by Gregory Maxwell 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10009938o-2000331777b,00.htm… I've confirmed the reports of UK ISPs censoring Wikipedia using some UK tor exists. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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[tor-talk] Help users in Iran reach the internet
by Jacob Appelbaum 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Hi, In the last 48 hours a major campaign of filtering has started in Iran - it started slow and now appears to be that nearly all SSL/TLS traffic is blocked on a few major Iranian ISPs. Details are rather rough but we're working on some solutions - we've long had an ace up our sleeves for this exact moment in the arms race but it's perhaps come while the User Interface edges are a bit rough still. Here's the deal - we need people to run Tor bridges but a special kind of Tor bridge, one that does a kind of traffic camouflaging - we call it an obfuscated bridge. It's not easy to set up just yet because we were not ready to deploy this for everyone yet; it lacks a lot of analysis and it might even only last for a few days at the rate the arms race is progressing, if you could call it progress. There are highly technical instructions here: https://www.torproject.org/projects/obfsproxy-instructions.html.en Currently if you run such a bridge, you'll either need to manually tell us (via email to tor-assistants(a)torproject.org ) about it or you'll need to share these bridges with people you want to help directly. It's a pain and we're working on it. Here's a bug report where we're working around the clock to get stuff going in a user friendly manner: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/5009#comment:17 This kind of help is not for the technically faint of heart but it's absolutely needed for people in Iran, right now. It's likely that more than ~50,000 - ~60,000 Tor users may drop offline. Watch this graph for an idea of the censorship impact of directly connecting Tor users: https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=direct-users&start=2011-11-… Here's the same graph but for Tor bridge users in Iran: https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=bridge-users&start=2011-11-… We're working on easy to use client software and if you're in Iran or need one desperately, please email help(a)rt.torproject.org. We'll try to get you a working obfsproxy bridge address and working client software. All the best, Jacob _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: [volunteergrid2-l] Introduction
by Shawn Willden 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Hi Aaron, Yeah, sorry, we've had a half-dozen people join the list and express interest in hosting their own nodes in the last few days, and we haven't really figured out how to deal with rapid growth. The process is that someone already in the grid has to create an account for you on the wiki so you can get access to the classified info. Give us a little bit to figure out how to handle this sudden 25% growth. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Aaron Drew <aarond10(a)gmail.com> wrote: > So... Its not super clear how to get access to the Classified page with > the Intro FURL but I notice there is a post in the list archives talking > about the influx of interest after a slashdot post. > > Is there a process to follow? A queue? > > > On 3 April 2012 00:34, Aaron Drew <aarond10(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi tahoe-lafs volunteers, >> >> Time for my intro I guess. :) >> >> I'm a system engineer / programmer from Sydney, Australia. I started work >> on a C++ project that had aims very similar to tahoe's so I'm keen to give >> this a serious go and if it fits the bill, redirect my tinkering efforts >> towards tahoe (assuming I can be helpful). >> >> I'm a tahoe super noob so I'll probably have a bunch of questions to >> start with but I hope to ramp up fairly fast. I've used foolscap before and >> looked into using zfec in my own projects. >> >> https://github.com/aarond10 >> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101862384904941617128/ >> >> - Aaron >> > > > _______________________________________________ > volunteergrid2-l mailing list > volunteergrid2-l(a)tahoe-lafs.org > https://tahoe-lafs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volunteergrid2-l > http://bigpig.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome > -- Shawn _______________________________________________ volunteergrid2-l mailing list volunteergrid2-l(a)tahoe-lafs.org https://tahoe-lafs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volunteergrid2-l http://bigpig.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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cypherpunks@toad.com is going away
by John Gilmore 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

The cypherpunks list degenerated a long time ago to the point where I have no idea why more than 500 people are still receiving it every day. As part of cleaning up the email system on toad.com, I plan to shut down the cypherpunks-unedited list, which receives all the traffic sent to cypherpunks(a)toad.com, within the next week or two. I suggest that anyone who wants to talk or listen about encryption should send mail to: cryptography-request(a)wasabisystems.com with a one-line plain text message saying "subscribe". This will begin the process of subscribing them to the Cryptography mailing list, which is edited to remove irrelevant postings and to keep the volume down and the discussion focused. (I tried to do this with the cypherpunks list some years ago, but was shouted down by people who complained of "censorship". So I just left it unedited, with the expectable result that serious discussions deserted it.) If you were subscribed to the cypherpunks-unedited(a)toad.com list because you like to collect spam, talk with me personally and I'll see if I can help you. I have a large collection :-). The old "cypherpunks-announce" list was superseded many months ago by "meetingpunks(a)cryptorights.org". Cypherpunks-announce is no longer in existence. There remains a single encryption-related mailing list on toad.com, "coderpunks" which is for people who write code. John Gilmore --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com ----- End forwarded message -----

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[tor-talk] Help users in Iran reach the internet
by Jacob Appelbaum 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Hi, In the last 48 hours a major campaign of filtering has started in Iran - it started slow and now appears to be that nearly all SSL/TLS traffic is blocked on a few major Iranian ISPs. Details are rather rough but we're working on some solutions - we've long had an ace up our sleeves for this exact moment in the arms race but it's perhaps come while the User Interface edges are a bit rough still. Here's the deal - we need people to run Tor bridges but a special kind of Tor bridge, one that does a kind of traffic camouflaging - we call it an obfuscated bridge. It's not easy to set up just yet because we were not ready to deploy this for everyone yet; it lacks a lot of analysis and it might even only last for a few days at the rate the arms race is progressing, if you could call it progress. There are highly technical instructions here: https://www.torproject.org/projects/obfsproxy-instructions.html.en Currently if you run such a bridge, you'll either need to manually tell us (via email to tor-assistants(a)torproject.org ) about it or you'll need to share these bridges with people you want to help directly. It's a pain and we're working on it. Here's a bug report where we're working around the clock to get stuff going in a user friendly manner: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/5009#comment:17 This kind of help is not for the technically faint of heart but it's absolutely needed for people in Iran, right now. It's likely that more than ~50,000 - ~60,000 Tor users may drop offline. Watch this graph for an idea of the censorship impact of directly connecting Tor users: https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=direct-users&start=2011-11-… Here's the same graph but for Tor bridge users in Iran: https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=bridge-users&start=2011-11-… We're working on easy to use client software and if you're in Iran or need one desperately, please email help(a)rt.torproject.org. We'll try to get you a working obfsproxy bridge address and working client software. All the best, Jacob _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: [volunteergrid2-l] Introduction
by Shawn Willden 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Hi Aaron, Yeah, sorry, we've had a half-dozen people join the list and express interest in hosting their own nodes in the last few days, and we haven't really figured out how to deal with rapid growth. The process is that someone already in the grid has to create an account for you on the wiki so you can get access to the classified info. Give us a little bit to figure out how to handle this sudden 25% growth. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Aaron Drew <aarond10(a)gmail.com> wrote: > So... Its not super clear how to get access to the Classified page with > the Intro FURL but I notice there is a post in the list archives talking > about the influx of interest after a slashdot post. > > Is there a process to follow? A queue? > > > On 3 April 2012 00:34, Aaron Drew <aarond10(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi tahoe-lafs volunteers, >> >> Time for my intro I guess. :) >> >> I'm a system engineer / programmer from Sydney, Australia. I started work >> on a C++ project that had aims very similar to tahoe's so I'm keen to give >> this a serious go and if it fits the bill, redirect my tinkering efforts >> towards tahoe (assuming I can be helpful). >> >> I'm a tahoe super noob so I'll probably have a bunch of questions to >> start with but I hope to ramp up fairly fast. I've used foolscap before and >> looked into using zfec in my own projects. >> >> https://github.com/aarond10 >> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101862384904941617128/ >> >> - Aaron >> > > > _______________________________________________ > volunteergrid2-l mailing list > volunteergrid2-l(a)tahoe-lafs.org > https://tahoe-lafs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volunteergrid2-l > http://bigpig.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome > -- Shawn _______________________________________________ volunteergrid2-l mailing list volunteergrid2-l(a)tahoe-lafs.org https://tahoe-lafs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volunteergrid2-l http://bigpig.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: [p2p-hackers] Bitcoin incentive on Kademlia networks
by James A. Donald 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

On 2012-11-01 7:18 PM, CodesInChaos wrote: > I believe there is a number of systems that can profit from monetary > incentives. I'm mainly interested in TOR like anonymization/relay > systems, but file sharing is another system where incentives would be > useful. But getting it right isn't trivial. > > 1) Plain bitcoin doesn't support micro-transactions > 2) Plain bitcoin isn't untraceable (essential for use in an anonymous system. Need fully automated fractional reserve banks, which use bitcoin as gold. Accounts are, of course, public keys, banknotes are chaumian tokens. > 3) You need to figure out an appropriate price. In the simplest case > the uploaders simply send to the offer with the highest payment > attached. That just offloads the problem of price discovery somewhere else in the system. Price discovery is hard. Price discovery in micro transactions needs to be substantially automated - at both ends. People will not invest the effort needed for manual price discovery. Bad, incompetent, or buggy price discovery has killed every previous effort to solve this group of problems. Price information is probabilistic, thus a price discovery mechanism has to support a full Bayesian model, recursive probabilities estimating the probability that the true probability is p, performing maximum entropy modeling. This is the sort of work that gets very smart engineers hired at astronomical salaries by wall street. > 4) You need to ensure cheating is unprofitable. In particular running > with debt incurs a loss greater than the debt. > 5) If you give incentives for uploaders/relays that can lead to > perverse incentives for people who share metadata. For example if you > manage to give a client only collaborating uploaders, those might be > able to set a price far above market level. This is a real life problem, for which there are real life solutions. A friend tells me "As soon as they see your nose, the prices will go up by ten times. Let me negotiate for you, and then you appear with the money." He negotiates, then calls me in. Upon seeing my race, some of the people he has negotiated with have fits at his lack of racial loyalty. So, end users just have to get multiple independent sources of metadata. And, to motivate them to get multiple independent sources of metadata, those that don't have to get scammed. _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list p2p-hackers(a)lists.zooko.com http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: [tor-talk] William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can.
by Julian Yon 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

This story has now hit Ars Technica: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/11/tor-operator-charged-for-child-p… Julian -- 3072D/F3A66B3A Julian Yon (2012 General Use) <pgp.2012(a)jry.me> _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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ALERT: New CCOPS Poll -- your opinion needed
by JPFO Alerts 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

July 29, 2001 ALERT: New CCOPS Poll -- your opinion needed CCOPS: Concerned Citizens Opposed to Police States has a new poll with the following question: An Ohio man, a convicted child molester, has been sent to prison for seven years for writing fantasies of torturing children in his personal journal. By all accounts, these writings were repulsive. Should people be sent to prison for recording private thoughts in the privacy of their own home, when the activities described are illegal and/or violent, but there is no indication the person intended to act on them? You can vote yes or no. CCOPS has a new poll: "Thought Crime?" Express your opinion, go to: http://www.ccops.org/ and tell us YOUR opinion on this complex issue. NOTE: This poll will be up for 10 days. Give your opinion now and check back soon to view poll results and comments. ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **************************************************************************

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