July 2018 - cypherpunks-legacy

[p2p-hackers] Alpha testers needed
by Will Morton 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Hello p2p hackers; My project has now reached an alpha stage and I could really use some testers. The project is called robonobo. It's a music network built on a networking layer that uses digital cash to achieve fairness and high performance, which translates into reliably being able to stream enough data to be able to play tracks in real time even though the underlying network is p2p. Although the UI is 'streaming-like', the underlying music files for tracks are also downloaded to the user's hard drive. The app syncs these files automatically with iTunes if desired, and there is a plugin interface that should make it quite easy to sync with other music apps. The app should work reasonably well, though it is still very much in an 'alpha' state. It is designed to be highly scalable, but some parts of the network are not yet finished and so have unscalable shims holding things together. For this reason it's invite-only at the moment, though the source is fully available should anyone want to poke about at it. The project page is here: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/robonobo and an overview for developers is here: http://openfacts2.berlios.de/wikien/index.php/BerliosProject:Robonobo If anyone is interested in taking a look, please register at http://robonobo.com - alternatively, drop me a line and I'll send you an invite. Cheers Will _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list p2p-hackers(a)lists.zooko.com http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: [btns] IETF75
by Michael Richardson 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>>>>> "Eugen" == Eugen Leitl <eugen(a)leitl.org> writes: Eugen> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 03:15:59PM +0200, Julien Laganier Eugen> wrote: >> We're currently progressing connexion latching thru IESG. >> >> What remains to be done for the WG is to complete the API work >> item. Since those haven't been discussed much on the mailing >> list we felt that a meeting wouldn't be productive. Eugen> How far is the proposed standard from being able to hit the Eugen> road? I realize "it's done when it's done" but are we Eugen> looking at months, years, half a decade until there's a first Eugen> implementation available to beta testers? Read the document and comment. The API documents are stuck for lack of contributions. -- ] Y'avait une poule de jammi dans l'muffler!!!!!!!!! | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr(a)sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ ] h("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, ruby guy"); [ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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[p2p-hackers] Alpha testers needed
by Will Morton 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Hello p2p hackers; My project has now reached an alpha stage and I could really use some testers. The project is called robonobo. It's a music network built on a networking layer that uses digital cash to achieve fairness and high performance, which translates into reliably being able to stream enough data to be able to play tracks in real time even though the underlying network is p2p. Although the UI is 'streaming-like', the underlying music files for tracks are also downloaded to the user's hard drive. The app syncs these files automatically with iTunes if desired, and there is a plugin interface that should make it quite easy to sync with other music apps. The app should work reasonably well, though it is still very much in an 'alpha' state. It is designed to be highly scalable, but some parts of the network are not yet finished and so have unscalable shims holding things together. For this reason it's invite-only at the moment, though the source is fully available should anyone want to poke about at it. The project page is here: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/robonobo and an overview for developers is here: http://openfacts2.berlios.de/wikien/index.php/BerliosProject:Robonobo If anyone is interested in taking a look, please register at http://robonobo.com - alternatively, drop me a line and I'll send you an invite. Cheers Will _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list p2p-hackers(a)lists.zooko.com http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: [cryptography] Is Bitcoin legal?
by Ian G 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

On 16/06/11 12:34 AM, John Levine wrote: > Bitcoins aren't securities, because they don't act like securities. Right. Or more particularly, he asked: "... I canbt help wondering why Bitcoins arenbt unregistered securities." And the answer is that the registrar of securities defines what the securites are, and the SEC's definition is a long way away from BitCoin. "Uh-oh? Maybe someone will be hearing from the SEC?" No, that's not how the SEC works. The SEC is a responding organisation. They only deal when there is a complaint. Even when there is a complaint, they will try their best to ignore it. C.f, Madoff, which was dealing in securities. If there is an interest, it will come from UST, via USSS. > There's no promise to pay, no nominal value, and you don't have a > claim on some part of something else. Nod. A security is a contract where something is secured by one party to the benefit of another. We're missing the three components here, so where do we start? Who's going to complain and what's their complaint? Rock on... iang _______________________________________________ cryptography mailing list cryptography(a)randombit.net http://lists.randombit.net/mailman/listinfo/cryptography ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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[Freedombox-discuss] Trusted Computing Modules
by Chris Troutner 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

I did some work for a company a few years ago writing a Linux driver for their TPM chip. From a software perspective, the TPMs rock. However, the TPMs were put into consumer PCs in a very sneaky, stealthy way and their primary focus was for DRM management. So I (personally) think this might be reason why it never took off in open-source circles. However, the TPM isn't as awesome as the industry consortium would lead you to believe. It's pretty trival to solder a hardware sniffer onto the data bus of the chip in order to reverse engineer access to the chip. If you aren't worried about someone (the government) *physically* taking control of your hardware, then the chip is pretty great. This was the conclusion I reached after several months of studying the chip, however, that was several years ago and my memory may be foggy. Chris Troutner http://thesolarpowerexpert.com _______________________________________________ Freedombox-discuss mailing list Freedombox-discuss(a)lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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FC: Italian police raid Genoa online journalist collective
by Declan McCullagh 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

It's unclear what happened, but preliminary reports out of Genoa say that police armed with guns and search warrants raided "the headquarters of the umbrella group behind anti-capitalist riots against the Group of Eight summit" on Saturday evening. That apparently included the Independent Media Center, which was either was a target of the raid or swept up in it (the focus seems to have been on the "Genoa Social Forum," and they may have shared the same building). Often IMC reporters are activists who take part in street actions, though IMC organizers try to discourage this by advising reporters to hide their press pass when that happens. One sketchy AFP report, which alludes to a "brutal" raid: http://asia.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/world/afp/article.html?s=asia/hea… And what appears to be a reproduced Reuters article: http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=54267&group=webcast IMC reports saying police entered the newsroom: http://italia.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=5415&group=webcast http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=54208&group=webcast http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=54266&group=webcast http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=54245&group=webcast http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=54221&group=webcast CNN.com article from four days ago saying car bomb and letter bomb early this week put cops on high alert: http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/07/17/genoa.amnesty/index.html Politech archive on Seattle IMC tussle with FBI over web logs: http://www.politechbot.com/cgi-bin/politech.cgi?name=imc -Declan **********

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by Randall 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

<dewayne(a)warpspeed.com>, cyberia <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Subject: Download Piaf, Go To Jail http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,69905,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5 Internet downloaders could face jail sentences and software makers may be required to add anti-copying technology to products distributed in France under draft legislation that's expected to go to a vote this week. The so-called emergency legislation would require software makers to include digital-rights management, or DRM, software in their products, according to a draft (.pdf) of the proposed legislation seen by Wired News. ...French legislators are also calling for three-year jail sentences and fines of 300,000 euros for illegally copying music, video or any other copyright-protected files. ...But forcing all software makers to conform to special DRM rules for France alone is likely unworkable, said Urs Gasser, professor of law at the University of St. ...The lower house of France's national assembly is scheduled to vote as early as Thursday on the legislation, which has been proposed as a way to bring France into compliance with a pending European Commission copyright directive. ...The language of the proposal reflects lobbying pressure from French media giant Vivendi Universal and other recording industry interests, said Loic Dachary, founder of the eucd.info watch group and treasurer of The Free Software Foundation in France. "Vivendi Universal, the Business Software Alliance and the Soci?t? des Auteurs et des Compositeurs de Musique actually drafted these texts that the legislators are using," Dachary said. The industry considers the imposition of strong, proactive measures on software makers necessary to thwart pirates, especially in Europe where more than one in three copies of software in use is unlicensed, said Ga?lle Prigent-Protasov, a vice president of software maker Aladdin. ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as eugen(a)leitl.org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]

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[IP] Summarized -- Download Piaf, Go To Jail
by David Farber 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

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Re: [cryptography] Is Bitcoin legal?
by Ian G 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

On 16/06/11 12:34 AM, John Levine wrote: > Bitcoins aren't securities, because they don't act like securities. Right. Or more particularly, he asked: "... I canbt help wondering why Bitcoins arenbt unregistered securities." And the answer is that the registrar of securities defines what the securites are, and the SEC's definition is a long way away from BitCoin. "Uh-oh? Maybe someone will be hearing from the SEC?" No, that's not how the SEC works. The SEC is a responding organisation. They only deal when there is a complaint. Even when there is a complaint, they will try their best to ignore it. C.f, Madoff, which was dealing in securities. If there is an interest, it will come from UST, via USSS. > There's no promise to pay, no nominal value, and you don't have a > claim on some part of something else. Nod. A security is a contract where something is secured by one party to the benefit of another. We're missing the three components here, so where do we start? Who's going to complain and what's their complaint? Rock on... iang _______________________________________________ cryptography mailing list cryptography(a)randombit.net http://lists.randombit.net/mailman/listinfo/cryptography ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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[Freedombox-discuss] Trusted Computing Modules
by Chris Troutner 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

I did some work for a company a few years ago writing a Linux driver for their TPM chip. From a software perspective, the TPMs rock. However, the TPMs were put into consumer PCs in a very sneaky, stealthy way and their primary focus was for DRM management. So I (personally) think this might be reason why it never took off in open-source circles. However, the TPM isn't as awesome as the industry consortium would lead you to believe. It's pretty trival to solder a hardware sniffer onto the data bus of the chip in order to reverse engineer access to the chip. If you aren't worried about someone (the government) *physically* taking control of your hardware, then the chip is pretty great. This was the conclusion I reached after several months of studying the chip, however, that was several years ago and my memory may be foggy. Chris Troutner http://thesolarpowerexpert.com _______________________________________________ Freedombox-discuss mailing list Freedombox-discuss(a)lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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