July 2018 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: [tor-talk] Tor banned in Pakistan.
by Phillip 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/30/pakistan-bans-encryption-softwa… >> >> > It is very bad news because I am affraid that another tyrannical regimes > such as Russian can make do it too. > But it seems to me that Tor-users can use bridges and etc. for avoiding > repressive measures from "law enforcement bodies" of their countries (if > the termin "law is applicable to such bodies :) ). Hi Orionjur, Sorry to burst your bubble, but Russia is one of the last places I can imagine banning VPN's and Tor, especially from what I gather from my contacts in Russia... the FSB already has direct access to all Internet connection hubs (i.e. in an apartment building), completely by-passing ISPs and legal requirements! Have you seen the Russian net? The amount of piracy (as well as Tor traffic!) that goes through there is staggering! Regardless of all of the capabilities, authorities are simply not interested in you unless you *really* step on some toes (and, hint hint, running a Tor relay or exit node hasn't drawn their wrath so far)... And if you do happen to be such a person, it is much easier to break your door down using existing laws (using the crackdown on pirate copies of Windows as an excuse, for example) than amending the laws to include VPNs! But you're definitely right about the danger of the capability to block VPN's - I thought it was restricted to China and other such extreme regimes. If they can break your door down *just* because they're seeing encrypted traffic, there's definitely a problem! Which, of course, doesn't eliminate false positives, like running Facebook with the https always option turned on, or gmail, or any other SSL-encrypted site... -- GPG Key: CF345FAE _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: [tor-talk] Tor on Kindle 3G?
by Runa A. Sandvik 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:33 AM, hepta tor <heptator(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Amazon offers free internet worldwide through their Kindle 3G > eReader/tablet (running some embedded Linux), however they proxy all > the 3G traffic through their servers. Apparently that means that even > if you try to establish a https connection to some server, it is > Amazon that establishes that secure connection on your behalf, and all > the traffic between you and the Amazon proxy can be easily monitored > by Amazon (which is probably what they are doing anyways). I would > like to ask if any of you has tried to deploy Tor on Kindle 3G. A more > general question is whether Tor can be easily deployed on embedded > linux devices (other than those running Android). > If to connect to the internet one is forced to use an untrusted proxy, > can Tor be of any help here? I.e. can Tor encrypt the data and hide > the final destination from the untrusted proxy while at the same time > having to pass the data through it? Do you have Kindle Fire? If so, check out https://guardianproject.info/2011/11/16/dont-get-burned-anonymize-your-fire/ -- Runa A. Sandvik _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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[IP] The DNA round-up on Cape Cod
by David Farber 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

------ Forwarded Message From: "Richard M. Smith" <rms(a)computerbytesman.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:18:42 -0500 To: <dave(a)farber.net> Subject: The DNA round-up on Cape Cod Hi, I live in the town of Truro on Cape Cod about 4 or 5 months out of the year. This past week, the Truro has been on the national news because the local police are attempting to obtain DNA samples of all men of the town in order to solve a three-year old murder case. Here are a couple of the articles that give the details of what is going on in this DNA round-up: To Try to Net Killer, Police Ask a Small Town's Men for DNA http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/10/national/10cape.html Truro abuzz over 'swab' DNA testing http://www.capecodonline.com/cctimes/truroabuzz7.htm I am headed back to my Truro house later this week. If I am approached by the police to provide a DNA sample for their round-up of Truro males, I am planning to refuse. However, I just realized that I already gave a DNA sample to the Town of Truro recently. I paid my property tax bill to the Truro tax collectors office two weeks ago. My DNA is on the tax payment envelope that I licked. Envelopes are apparently a good source of DNA material according to this article: DNA on Envelope Reopens Decades-old Murder Case http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/wabc_052103_dnaarrest.html Richard M. Smith http://www.ComputerBytesMan.com ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as eugen(a)leitl.org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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For IP: Italy requires logging of personal info at cybercafes
by Brett Glass 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Want to check your e-mail in Italy? Bring your passport. An antiterror law makes Internet cafe managers check their clients' IDs and track the websites they visit. By Sofia Celeste | Contributor to The Christian Science Monitor ROME - Looking out over the cobblestone streets of Rome's Borgo Pio neighborhood, Maurizio Savoni says he's closing his Internet cafe because he doesn't want to be a "cop" anymore. After Italy passed a new antiterrorism package in July, authorities ordered managers offering public communications services, like Mr. Savoni,to make passport photocopies of every customer seeking to use the Internet, phone, or fax. "This new law creates a heavy atmosphere," says Savoni, his desk cluttered with passport photocopies. He is visibly irritated, as he proceeds to halt clients at the door for their ID. Passed within weeks of the London bombings this summer, the law is part of the most extensive antiterror package introduced in Italy since 9/11 and the country's subsequent support of the Iraq war. Though the legislation also includes measures to heighten transportation security, permit DNA collection, and facilitate the detention or deportation of suspects, average Italians are feeling its effect mainly in Internet cafes. But while Italy has a healthy protest culture, no major opposition to the law has emerged. Before the law was passed, Savoni's clients were anonymous to him. Now they must be identified by first and last name. He must also document which computer they use, as well as their log-in and log-out times. Like other owners of Internet cafes, Savoni had to obtain a new public communications business license, and purchase tracking software that costs up to $1,600. The software saves a list of all sites visited by clients, and Internet cafe operators must periodically turn this list into their local police headquarters. "After 9/11, Madrid, and London, we all have to do our utmost best to fight terrorism," says a government official who asked not to be named. Italy claims that its new stance on security led to the arrest of Hussein Osman, also known as Hamdi Issac - one of the men behind the failed bombing of the London underground July 21. "Hamdi was well known to our security people and had relatives here with whom he communicated, in some form," says the government official in an e-mail interview. But Silvia Malesa, a young Internet cafe owner in the coastal village of Olbia, Sardinia, remains unconvinced. "This is a waste of time," says Ms. Malesa in a telephone interview. "Terrorists don't come to Internet cafes." And now, would-be customers aren't coming either, say Savoni and Malesa. Since the law was enacted, Savoni has seen an estimated 10 percent drop in business. "So many people who come in here ask 'why?' and then they just leave," Savoni says. Most tourists who wander in from the streets, he explains, leave their passports at home or are discouraged when asked to sign a security disclaimer. Savoni says the new law violates his privacy, comparing it to America's antiterrorism law that allows authorities to monitor Internet use without notifying the person in question. "It is a control system like America's Patriot Act," he says. Groups like the American Civil Liberties Union have criticized the Patriot Act because it permits the government to ask libraries for a list of books someone has borrowed or the websites they have visited. Under Italy's new antiterror legislation, only those who are on a black list for terrorist connections are in danger of having their e- mails read, according to the government official. Interior Minister Giuseppe Pisanu has declared Italy will stop at nothing to fight terror. "I will continue to prioritize action to monitor the length and breadth of the country, without ever underestimating reasonably reliable reports of specific threats," said Mr. Pisanu in a Sept. 29 interview with Finmeccanica Magazine. Pisanu has also called for developing sophisticated technology to combat terror on Italian soil. "There is no doubt that, to achieve maximum efficiency, we need the support of the best technological applications," Pisanu affirmed. As a result, Pisanu has formed the Strategic Anti-terrorism Analysis Committee, which aims to examine and take action against all terror threats. Due to new measures, more than 25 Islamic extremists were arrested on Italian soil in 2005, according to the Interior Ministry. The ministry also reported that they are conducting "rigorous surveillance" of high-risk areas of terrorist activity and over 13,000 strategic locations in Italy. On Aug. 12 and 13 alone, a reported 32,703 checks were carried out on suspicious individuals. Despite the inconvenience, most Italians seem relatively unfazed by the law. "If I am not doing anything wrong, fundamentally nothing is going to happen to me," says Mauro Pallotta, a young artist, after checking his e-mail at Savoni's cafe. URL: http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1004/p07s01-woeu.htm ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as eugen(a)leitl.org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]

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[IP] Italy requires logging of personal info at cybercafes
by David Farber 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

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Re: [tor-talk] Tor banned in Pakistan.
by Phillip 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/30/pakistan-bans-encryption-softwa… >> >> > It is very bad news because I am affraid that another tyrannical regimes > such as Russian can make do it too. > But it seems to me that Tor-users can use bridges and etc. for avoiding > repressive measures from "law enforcement bodies" of their countries (if > the termin "law is applicable to such bodies :) ). Hi Orionjur, Sorry to burst your bubble, but Russia is one of the last places I can imagine banning VPN's and Tor, especially from what I gather from my contacts in Russia... the FSB already has direct access to all Internet connection hubs (i.e. in an apartment building), completely by-passing ISPs and legal requirements! Have you seen the Russian net? The amount of piracy (as well as Tor traffic!) that goes through there is staggering! Regardless of all of the capabilities, authorities are simply not interested in you unless you *really* step on some toes (and, hint hint, running a Tor relay or exit node hasn't drawn their wrath so far)... And if you do happen to be such a person, it is much easier to break your door down using existing laws (using the crackdown on pirate copies of Windows as an excuse, for example) than amending the laws to include VPNs! But you're definitely right about the danger of the capability to block VPN's - I thought it was restricted to China and other such extreme regimes. If they can break your door down *just* because they're seeing encrypted traffic, there's definitely a problem! Which, of course, doesn't eliminate false positives, like running Facebook with the https always option turned on, or gmail, or any other SSL-encrypted site... -- GPG Key: CF345FAE _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: [tor-talk] Tor on Kindle 3G?
by Runa A. Sandvik 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:33 AM, hepta tor <heptator(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Amazon offers free internet worldwide through their Kindle 3G > eReader/tablet (running some embedded Linux), however they proxy all > the 3G traffic through their servers. Apparently that means that even > if you try to establish a https connection to some server, it is > Amazon that establishes that secure connection on your behalf, and all > the traffic between you and the Amazon proxy can be easily monitored > by Amazon (which is probably what they are doing anyways). I would > like to ask if any of you has tried to deploy Tor on Kindle 3G. A more > general question is whether Tor can be easily deployed on embedded > linux devices (other than those running Android). > If to connect to the internet one is forced to use an untrusted proxy, > can Tor be of any help here? I.e. can Tor encrypt the data and hide > the final destination from the untrusted proxy while at the same time > having to pass the data through it? Do you have Kindle Fire? If so, check out https://guardianproject.info/2011/11/16/dont-get-burned-anonymize-your-fire/ -- Runa A. Sandvik _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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[e-gold-list] micro-nation (SeaLand) for sale, only xxx,xxx,xxx Euros
by jrw＠e-gold.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

A real estate company now lists the nation of SeaLand, with somewhat of a history in the online gold world, for sale: http://www2.noticiasdot.com/publicaciones/2007/0107/0201/noticias020107/not… at ~550 square meters, it may be some of the most expensive real estate around - if the 9 figure asking price is met: http://www.inmobiliarianaranja.es/islas.html Sealand: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand http://www.sealandgov.org/ HavenCo, the hosting company at Sealand: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HavenCo http://www.havenco.com/ pictures of 2006 fire aftermath: http://www.bobleroi.co.uk/ScrapBook/ScrapBook.html#sealand Lonely Planet MicroNations: http://www.amazon.com/Lonely-Planet-Micronations-Travel-Guides/dp/174104730… Sealand, Havenco and online gold: http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,54802,00.html http://www.kimgilmour.com/articles/archive/the_offshore_data_haven.html http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.07/haven.html --- Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses. --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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[e-gold-list] micro-nation (SeaLand) for sale, only xxx,xxx,xxx Euros
by jrw＠e-gold.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

A real estate company now lists the nation of SeaLand, with somewhat of a history in the online gold world, for sale: http://www2.noticiasdot.com/publicaciones/2007/0107/0201/noticias020107/not… at ~550 square meters, it may be some of the most expensive real estate around - if the 9 figure asking price is met: http://www.inmobiliarianaranja.es/islas.html Sealand: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand http://www.sealandgov.org/ HavenCo, the hosting company at Sealand: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HavenCo http://www.havenco.com/ pictures of 2006 fire aftermath: http://www.bobleroi.co.uk/ScrapBook/ScrapBook.html#sealand Lonely Planet MicroNations: http://www.amazon.com/Lonely-Planet-Micronations-Travel-Guides/dp/174104730… Sealand, Havenco and online gold: http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,54802,00.html http://www.kimgilmour.com/articles/archive/the_offshore_data_haven.html http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.07/haven.html --- Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses. --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: [IP] FBI plans new Net-tapping push
by Lauren Weinstein 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Dave, Data retention laws. Purpose-built voice and data wiretapping capabilities in communications gear. A sharp salute to the masters of the Black Chamber, with terrorism and child abuse the rhetorical keys to creating the pervasive surveillance society. But there's a piece missing. Crypto controls of course! Despite their fundamental impracticality, laws prohibiting, controlling, or penalizing the use of "untappable" crypto will be increasingly enticing to the powers-that-be. For of what use is all that extremely expensive wiretapping capability if you can't interpret the damned bits? Such control laws would of course trigger a vast escalation in the crypto "arms race" -- with ever more emphasis on steganographic and other message obscuring techniques. Innocents will have their personal and business privacy eviscerated, while the truly evil will plunge deeper from view, with knee-jerk reactions pulling our basic liberties down the rathole as well. After all, even the road to "1984" was paved with good intentions. Indeed, "He loved Big Brother." --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren(a)vortex.com or lauren(a)pfir.org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, IOIC - International Open Internet Coalition - http://www.ioic.net Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com DayThink: http://daythink.vortex.com - - - > >Begin forwarded message: > >From: Richard Forno <rforno(a)infowarrior.org> >Date: July 8, 2006 2:22:38 AM EDT >To: Blaster <rforno(a)infowarrior.org> >Cc: Dave Farber <dave(a)farber.net> >Subject: FBI plans new Net-tapping push > >FBI plans new Net-tapping push > >By Declan McCullagh >http://news.com.com/FBI+plans+new+Net-tapping+push/ >2100-1028_3-6091942.html > >Story last modified Fri Jul 07 18:55:01 PDT 2006 > >The FBI has drafted sweeping legislation that would require Internet >service >providers to create wiretapping hubs for police surveillance and force >makers of networking gear to build in backdoors for eavesdropping, >CNET >News.com has learned. > >FBI Agent Barry Smith distributed the proposal at a private meeting >last >Friday with industry representatives and indicated it would be >introduced by >Sen. Mike DeWine, an Ohio Republican, according to two sources >familiar with >the meeting. > >The draft bill would place the FBI's Net-surveillance push on solid >legal >footing. At the moment, it's ensnared in a legal challenge from >universities >and some technology companies that claim the Federal Communications >Commission's broadband surveillance directives exceed what Congress >has >authorized. > >The FBI claims that expanding the 1994 Communications Assistance >for Law >Enforcement Act is necessary to thwart criminals and terrorists who >have >turned to technologies like voice over Internet Protocol, or VoIP. > >"The complexity and variety of communications technologies have >dramatically >increased in recent years, and the lawful intercept capabilities of >the >federal, state and local law enforcement community have been under >continual >stress, and in many cases have decreased or become impossible," >according to >a summary accompanying the draft bill. > >Complicating the political outlook for the legislation is an ongoing >debate >over allegedly illegal surveillance by the National Security >Administration--punctuated by several lawsuits challenging it on >constitutional grounds and an unrelated proposal to force Internet >service >providers to record what Americans are doing online. One source, who >asked >not to be identified because of the sensitive nature of last Friday's >meeting, said the FBI viewed this as a top congressional priority for >2007. > >Breaking the legislation down >The 27-page proposed CALEA amendments seen by CNET News.com would: > >b" Require any manufacturer of "routing" and "addressing" hardware to >offer >upgrades or other "modifications" that are needed to support Internet >wiretapping. Current law does require that of telephone switch >manufacturers--but not makers of routers and network address >translation >hardware like Cisco Systems and 2Wire. > >b" Authorize the expansion of wiretapping requirements to "commercial" >Internet services including instant messaging if the FCC deems it to >be in >the "public interest." That would likely sweep in services such as in- >game >chats offered by Microsoft's Xbox 360 gaming system as well. > >b" Force Internet service providers to sift through their customers' >communications to identify, for instance, only VoIP calls. (The >language >requires companies to adhere to "processing or filtering methods or >procedures applied by a law enforcement agency.") That means police >could >simply ask broadband providers like AT&T, Comcast or Verizon for >wiretap >info--instead of having to figure out what VoIP service was being >used. > >b" Eliminate the current legal requirement saying the Justice >Department must >publish a public "notice of the actual number of communications >interceptions" every year. That notice currently also must disclose >the >"maximum capacity" required to accommodate all of the legally >authorized >taps that government agencies will "conduct and use simultaneously." > >Jim Harper, a policy analyst at the free-market Cato Institute and >member of >a Homeland Security advisory board, said the proposal would "have a >negative >impact on Internet users' privacy." > >"People expect their information to be private unless the government >meets >certain legal standards," Harper said. "Right now the Department of >Justice >is pushing the wrong way on all this." > >Neither the FBI nor DeWine's office responded to a request for comment >Friday afternoon. > >DeWine has relatively low approval ratings--47 percent, according to >SurveyUSA.com--and is enmeshed in a fierce battle with a Democratic >challenger to retain his Senate seat in the November elections. >DeWine is a >member of a Senate Judiciary subcommittee charged with overseeing >electronic >privacy and antiterrorism enforcement and is a former prosecutor in >Ohio. > >A panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C., decided 2-1 >last >month to uphold the FCC's extension of CALEA to broadband >providers, and >it's not clear what will happen next with the lawsuit. Judge Harry >Edwards >wrote in his dissent that the majority's logic gave the FCC "unlimited >authority to regulate every telecommunications service that might >conceivably be used to assist law enforcement." > >The organizations behind the lawsuit say Congress never intended >CALEA to >force broadband providers--and networks at corporations and >universities--to >build in central surveillance hubs for the police. The list of >organizations >includes Sun Microsystems, Pulver.com, the American Association of >Community >Colleges, the Association of American Universities and the American >Library >Association. > >If the FBI's legislation becomes law, it would derail the lawsuit >because >there would no longer be any question that Congress intended CALEA to >apply >to the Internet. > > > ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as eugen(a)leitl.org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]

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