July 2018 - cypherpunks-legacy

Lucrative update
by Patrick 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

Lucrative release 4 is out. I know many people are used to seeing releases numbered like "0.000001", "0.000002", "2.0.3.0.14.657" etc. but release numbering systems are essentially arbitrary in nature so don't get excited as Lucrative goes toward version 50+. This release is a fairly minor one, but included some changes such as the client name that I wanted to get out as soon as possible. There is also a new development weblog at http://lucrative.thirdhost.com/weblog/. I went through an install with someone over IRC last night and made a blog entry summarizing the install notes. I recommend reading the notes before attempting an install. I am glad to help with an install, drop me a note at patrick(a)lfcgate.com if you have trouble. Some documentation on the various entities in the Lucrative system is now available on the website, http://lucrative.thirdhost.com/documentation.php but more is needed and coming. If Lucrative is interesting to you, please consider helping in any way you can: Feedback Installation reports Suggestions Comments Criticism Feature requests Source code patches Donations Are all very much welcomed. And criticism is more useful to me than praise. My sincere thanks to everyone who has participated so far by installing, testing, providing feedback, spreading the word, and donating. And finally I just received word from SourceForge that the project registration for Lucrative has been approved. Regards, Patrick -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> mQGiBD5ECKcRBADUvjXHwLtxIyS4AyjBs/dFtN6rdeP18Fhzh1hD5fJwkFevqY9Z I1ASROTh6eXYF7pU5sEvbcPshHyTB41ZtTqZvQvpwWN0fUzOuutuI0mtC5UPp9Rz j47SdWLdEXNHjwnHDCYSyqtqZu8GujGRQybR0eP3NIh/NwbSDUKdgz7IjwCg//Jo UtjP3zUFobm/0UYA+CJ5krED/091x9Js0gwNwvjbzM8DqO+r8qNz0kXI13FkrPRk QNd37lxt6m2m8HZD1WYM2wKwtMzHSwJcWzaDZ/tNc+ppYjzpw0EQCh9FqjGs8Vau guF6PA1M8lJTCcLKaL4e7ynic+PAw5Xa/tdOYgFCG+eLMU5RLvzRCYoOLIjgMJLJ yG98BACAMlDmFVYgC/UKvzZmHfZ5CtCKd8sPfCXrYLu5NeFRE0LR6D6zjzmhi1xX okfreR5o3T/y78VBM98js+m2/+7Z0AElqydeW/RnV1zqwDGjDr9z2MgARf3yLAbs n3BU8Fz61RwvHy6cRkT+2dR2f69QQUSpkupvLwZIGX/iwm4uKLQdUGF0cmljayA8 cGF0cmlja0BsZmNnYXRlLmNvbT6JAE4EEBECAA4FAj5ECKcECwMCAQIZAQAKCRBb mvb9yuOVfaA2AKDAu5tDj9F2KI8cJMrKKkQRAcUyxACg6/bei7lUJH+E5igJqGRx SjKrRA65BA0EPkQIpxAQAPkYoH5aBmF6Q5CV3AVsh4bsYezNRR8O2OCjecbJ3HoL rOQ/40aUtjBKU9d8AhZIgLUV5SmZqZ8HdNP/46HFliBOmGW42A3uEF2rthccUdhQ yiJXQym+lehWKzh4XAvb+ExN1eOqRsz7zhfoKp0UYeOEqU/Rg4Soebbvj6dDRgjG zB13VyQ4SuLE8OiOE2eXTpITYfbb6yUOF/32mPfIfHmwch04dfv2wXPEgxEmK0Ng w+Po1gr9oSgmC66prrNlD6IAUwGgfNaroxIe+g8qzh90hE/K8xfzpEDp19J3tkIt AjbBJstoXp18mAkKjX4t7eRdefXUkk+bGI78KqdLfDL2Qle3CH8IF3KiutapQvMF 6PlTETlPtvFuuUs4INoBp1ajFOmPQFXz0AfGy0OplK33TGSGSfgMg71l6RfUodNQ +PVZX9x2Uk89PY3bzpnhV5JZzf24rnRPxfx2vIPFRzBhznzJZv8V+bv9kV7HAarT W56NoKVyOtQa8L9GAFgr5fSI/VhOSdvNILSd5JEHNmszbDgNRR0PfIizHHxbLY72 88kjwEPwpVsYjY67VYy4XTjTNP18F1dDox0YbN4zISy1Kv884bEpQBgRjXyEpwpy 1obEAxnIByl6ypUM2Zafq9AKUJsCRtMIPWakXUGfnHy9iUsiGSa6q6Jew1XrPdYX AAICD/wKwtF7Y4NKBe8PQ6jDbjWziiTv9Ac/EnRTJDQEoqgLa2LyE+6Ahw/VPGvp mfxkD2MKxC9E7kYVmasn6sHnSpvAv3e7O1Bqbo/qLzzCcJQ5VCurZ+elRM1GZ4Oc fM19FPKutb0/JFEv0nrqS4BGkF7WFBbu5dKYl/GIO7Co1mAerFIb719dOwMPVEIz OT08u8uB9jyR8gEElf+CVuNfOUkrUGg4HS4SbmTTrCSz3/8n5PkquSuAyjCB/dwM ZsZwA0/TTR8sDYlmlf9xPj5PGpGnV9OUwfig6eE0eWtRFeasmz0uiX+yp45ABtNh 6EXP/PFaBgXi9omXXjeeFYfpDvmfA6izvTIQfXTV6V9ZWrBfXarM+GQ+6guXWVbd 9fXvmCr982LkzuKQrK1OpRXBMUapXL+tOy/LYzz91InqKKhgPNGa12fvotZ4LzlM iqoM+Hpz5L9B5We1Ph0lD6RBVXDCqd+P8extnY/7AaDy7tC0UghaAaUuEZXJQPIc oQ3QGbpjM0nGe/VZN5EZhljau0NNENFaU56cOpvOhcO04gLGNNc2NS+rIpTMsaHh o1CG90c5zZZJuUbyx0mIHriNQXDgEwunSZPQorKK9KSppyyjeuOyi5F/mBBPXeyT weLhLqLvAr9se/+Z3aQvMADJi8zUZtGggLTw+N9R5XSwtSh2R4kARgQYEQIABgUC PkQIpwAKCRBbmvb9yuOVfWayAKC+mBhHdn1XZ5uH0RocAyJ32hx2kgCePyhB+IqM TjWLDLarQxcPYhbkFi4= =nx1M -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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Re: [p2p-hackers] Project Announcement: P2P Sockets (fwd from bradneuberg@yahoo.com) (fwd from morlockelloi@yahoo.com)
by Brad Neuberg 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

--- Eugen Leitl <eugen(a)leitl.org> wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Morlock Elloi > <morlockelloi(a)yahoo.com> ----- > > From: Morlock Elloi <morlockelloi(a)yahoo.com> > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:41:40 -0700 (PDT) > To: cypherpunks(a)lne.com > Subject: Re: [p2p-hackers] Project Announcement: P2P > Sockets (fwd from > bradneuberg(a)yahoo.com) > > > stable IP address. Super-peers on the Jxta network > run > > application-level routers which store special > > information such as how to reach peers, how to > join > > So these super peers are reliable, non-vulnerable, > although everyone knows > where they are, because .... ? > These super peers are known as Rendezvous peers in the Jxta world. They are as reliable and non-vulnerable as one could hope for, though I doubt they are perfect; I am building above the existing Jxta infrastructure for these. "Everyone" knows about them by using a common boostrap server to bootstrap into the Jxta network to gain the addresses of a few Rendezvous nodes. Rendezvous nodes then propagate information about their existence to other Rendezvous nodes at various times. Network partitions are certainly possible, and the requirement for a common bootstrap server is fragile. Jxta, and therefore P2P Sockets, currently has no protections against malicious/byzantine peers; it has relatively good protections against peers that fail non-maliciously. Brad Neuberg _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list p2p-hackers(a)zgp.org http://zgp.org/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers _______________________________________________ Here is a web page listing P2P Conferences: http://www.neurogrid.net/twiki/bin/view/Main/PeerToPeerConferences ----- End forwarded message ----- [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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Interesting interview with David Brin about privacy, etc.
by Bosley, John - BLS 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

For IP if you wish, Dave. John http://www.govtech.net/magazine/story.php?id=90772 <http://www.govtech.net/magazine/story.php?id=90772> John Bosley Office of Survey Methods Research Room 1950, Bureau of Labor Statistics 202-691-7514 fax 202-691-7426 OS X Summary In this place, all the myriad cameras report their urban scenes straight to Police Central, where security officers use sophisticated image-processors to scan for infractions against the public order -- or perhaps against an established way of thought. ...Over by the mall, a teenage shoplifter is taken into custody gingerly, with minute attention to ritual and rights, because the arresting officer knows the entire process is being scrutinized by untold numbers who watch intently, lest her neutral professionalism lapse. ...There, any citizen may tune in on bookings, arraignments, and especially the camera control room itself, making sure that the agents on duty look out for violent crime, and only crime. ...Still, taking that into account, it does seem clearer every day that the 21st century simply has to feature positive-sum games -- or ways everybody can benefit while minimizing the bad. ...I cannot prove with utter certainty that we won't face some genuine tradeoffs between safety and freedom, but I am sick of hearing that it's automatic -- assumed -- that they work against each other, that I must choose between these precious things. ...Q: In one interview about The Transparent Society, you spoke of the need for constant public supervision to enforce accountability on government -- metaphorically a "leash" to remind our guard dogs that they serve us. Does the two-way aspect of information transparency create that leash? ...Not one thing we do will reduce the growing power of elites to look at us. Nor should that matter, or reduce our freedom an iota, so long as we fiercely embrace the other solution. ...There are dozens of potential ways to increase accountability, while at the same time allowing our paid protectors to do their jobs better. ...You can't count the number of times you've seen on TV a debate between some civil libertarian and a "security expert" -- screaming at each other about this so-called "tradeoff." ...Stand on a street corner, and spend five minutes doing a slow turn, taking time to notice all the things that work -- the traffic lights, the sewers, the clean water, all the people being courteous to each other and taking turns. ...I also like having skilled cops, who know they might be on video at any moment, and therefore have decided to stop being paid thugs and instead be the kind of great professionals we saw in fiction, say on Adam 12. ...It's great, and they're getting all sorts of new tools to become better at it -- software tools, cameras, spy tools, biometric ID and surveillance -- tools that might also become dangerous to freedom, if we aren't careful. But even assuming they use these tools both honorably and well, there's just no way anticipation will always work. ...The trend of the 20th century -- toward professionalization of everything -- simply cannot go on. The 21st century has to be a time when people gradually take back some control of their lives. ...Every Cabinet department and military service -- almost every agency -- has an inspector general, whose job is to make sure the law is obeyed by those entrusted with state power. ...Hey, you can look at the future and shiver with fear, or you can peer ahead and say, 'How can we maximize the good while minimizing the bad?' ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as eugen(a)leitl.org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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[IP] Interesting interview with David Brin about privacy, etc.
by David Farber 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

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Students Tracked By RFID
by brian-slashdotnews＠hyperreal.org 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/17/0436214 Posted by: timothy, on 2004-11-17 12:23:00 from the government-schooling dept. [1]TheMeuge writes "The New York Times is reporting a new development in the unrelenting progress of the [2]RFID juggernaut. The school district of [3]Spring, Texas has adopted [4]RFID as a way to track students' arrival and departure. Upon being scanned, the data are transmitted to both the school administrators, as well as city police. I guess cutting class is no longer an option." [5]Click Here References 1. http://www.themeuge.com/ 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFID 3. http://www.google.com/url?oi=map&sa=X&q=http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.ad… country=US&address=&city=Spring&state=TX 4. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/17/technology/17tag.html 5. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5659&alloc_id=12309&site_id=1&request_id=612248&… =click&page=%2farticle%2epl ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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[ZS] Re: Is there a consumer market at all?
by Michael Hrenka 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

I see there's some confusion here in this thread. First of all, my suggestions of a consumer market process is completely compatible with our current system. I'm not suggesting replacing all current forms of advertisement and Monte Carlo market placement with the more interactive model. Instead, the interactive market model is to be understood as complement to the current reactive market model. It looks like some here think the reactive market doesn't work badly enough and that the interactive market is too costly (in time and money) to justify its expansion. Is that a really justified judgment? Partially it seems to be, because the majority is probably too comfortable to participate in an interactive market, just as the majority is too comfortable to participate actively in politics (I see votes as reactive participation). However, in politics there are still a few people who are actively engaged. Why don't we see the same in a similar fashion in the economic realm? Currently it looks like there's only the binary choice between reactive market participation or owning/ working for a company which produces goods. There's not much in between. This is a vacuum which demands a serious explanation - and not just naive dismissals. There are a few possible explanations - the argument about an interactive participation costing too much time is only half of an explanation, because time is a given fixed factor - the only variable are the preferences and priorities of different persons. Here are a few options how to explain the vacuum: 1. People care more about what they DON'T want than what they actually want. 2. People don't know what they actually want, so they can't ask actively for it. 3. People really don't want anything really strongly and thus remain solely passive or reactive. 4. There are other psychological factors which are adverse to interactive markets (status quo bias for example). 5. People are simply too stupid to participate in interactive markets. 6. People are too stupid to devise practicable procedures for interactive markets. If 6. turns out to be a major factor in the true explanation of the phenomenon there's a real chance for Zero State to exploit the current situation by designing effective interactive market procedures. There are just no good places for producers and consumers to meet each other. In other words there are no good forums - and "forum" is simply the Latin word for "market". With our modern online technology the time and resource requirements for an interactive participation of consumers in the production process might be minimized drastically. Some companies start to reach out for customers on platforms like Twitter and Facebook and try to get into a real conversation with them. However, Twitter and Facebook look like very suboptimal forums for interactive markets. I'm rather looking for something that changes our production processes like Khan Academy changed our education processes. There might be a serious amount of cash behind an idea like this. What if the new interactive market process could lead to products which have 10 times higher quality while only being half as expensive? Impossible you say? Well, then prove that! -- Michael Hrenka P.S.: Furthermore I propose that we refrain from using terms like "capitalist", "socialist", "free markets", "centralised", "decentralised", "planning", and so on, because those terms come with too much ideological baggage! Please try to use other words that actually describe what you mean. Otherwise we really land in a situation where capitalism = socialism = planning = centralised = markets = free markets = capitalism. -- Zero State mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/DoctrineZero ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Lucrative update
by Patrick 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

Lucrative release 4 is out. I know many people are used to seeing releases numbered like "0.000001", "0.000002", "2.0.3.0.14.657" etc. but release numbering systems are essentially arbitrary in nature so don't get excited as Lucrative goes toward version 50+. This release is a fairly minor one, but included some changes such as the client name that I wanted to get out as soon as possible. There is also a new development weblog at http://lucrative.thirdhost.com/weblog/. I went through an install with someone over IRC last night and made a blog entry summarizing the install notes. I recommend reading the notes before attempting an install. I am glad to help with an install, drop me a note at patrick(a)lfcgate.com if you have trouble. Some documentation on the various entities in the Lucrative system is now available on the website, http://lucrative.thirdhost.com/documentation.php but more is needed and coming. If Lucrative is interesting to you, please consider helping in any way you can: Feedback Installation reports Suggestions Comments Criticism Feature requests Source code patches Donations Are all very much welcomed. And criticism is more useful to me than praise. My sincere thanks to everyone who has participated so far by installing, testing, providing feedback, spreading the word, and donating. And finally I just received word from SourceForge that the project registration for Lucrative has been approved. Regards, Patrick -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> mQGiBD5ECKcRBADUvjXHwLtxIyS4AyjBs/dFtN6rdeP18Fhzh1hD5fJwkFevqY9Z I1ASROTh6eXYF7pU5sEvbcPshHyTB41ZtTqZvQvpwWN0fUzOuutuI0mtC5UPp9Rz j47SdWLdEXNHjwnHDCYSyqtqZu8GujGRQybR0eP3NIh/NwbSDUKdgz7IjwCg//Jo UtjP3zUFobm/0UYA+CJ5krED/091x9Js0gwNwvjbzM8DqO+r8qNz0kXI13FkrPRk QNd37lxt6m2m8HZD1WYM2wKwtMzHSwJcWzaDZ/tNc+ppYjzpw0EQCh9FqjGs8Vau guF6PA1M8lJTCcLKaL4e7ynic+PAw5Xa/tdOYgFCG+eLMU5RLvzRCYoOLIjgMJLJ yG98BACAMlDmFVYgC/UKvzZmHfZ5CtCKd8sPfCXrYLu5NeFRE0LR6D6zjzmhi1xX okfreR5o3T/y78VBM98js+m2/+7Z0AElqydeW/RnV1zqwDGjDr9z2MgARf3yLAbs n3BU8Fz61RwvHy6cRkT+2dR2f69QQUSpkupvLwZIGX/iwm4uKLQdUGF0cmljayA8 cGF0cmlja0BsZmNnYXRlLmNvbT6JAE4EEBECAA4FAj5ECKcECwMCAQIZAQAKCRBb mvb9yuOVfaA2AKDAu5tDj9F2KI8cJMrKKkQRAcUyxACg6/bei7lUJH+E5igJqGRx SjKrRA65BA0EPkQIpxAQAPkYoH5aBmF6Q5CV3AVsh4bsYezNRR8O2OCjecbJ3HoL rOQ/40aUtjBKU9d8AhZIgLUV5SmZqZ8HdNP/46HFliBOmGW42A3uEF2rthccUdhQ yiJXQym+lehWKzh4XAvb+ExN1eOqRsz7zhfoKp0UYeOEqU/Rg4Soebbvj6dDRgjG zB13VyQ4SuLE8OiOE2eXTpITYfbb6yUOF/32mPfIfHmwch04dfv2wXPEgxEmK0Ng w+Po1gr9oSgmC66prrNlD6IAUwGgfNaroxIe+g8qzh90hE/K8xfzpEDp19J3tkIt AjbBJstoXp18mAkKjX4t7eRdefXUkk+bGI78KqdLfDL2Qle3CH8IF3KiutapQvMF 6PlTETlPtvFuuUs4INoBp1ajFOmPQFXz0AfGy0OplK33TGSGSfgMg71l6RfUodNQ +PVZX9x2Uk89PY3bzpnhV5JZzf24rnRPxfx2vIPFRzBhznzJZv8V+bv9kV7HAarT W56NoKVyOtQa8L9GAFgr5fSI/VhOSdvNILSd5JEHNmszbDgNRR0PfIizHHxbLY72 88kjwEPwpVsYjY67VYy4XTjTNP18F1dDox0YbN4zISy1Kv884bEpQBgRjXyEpwpy 1obEAxnIByl6ypUM2Zafq9AKUJsCRtMIPWakXUGfnHy9iUsiGSa6q6Jew1XrPdYX AAICD/wKwtF7Y4NKBe8PQ6jDbjWziiTv9Ac/EnRTJDQEoqgLa2LyE+6Ahw/VPGvp mfxkD2MKxC9E7kYVmasn6sHnSpvAv3e7O1Bqbo/qLzzCcJQ5VCurZ+elRM1GZ4Oc fM19FPKutb0/JFEv0nrqS4BGkF7WFBbu5dKYl/GIO7Co1mAerFIb719dOwMPVEIz OT08u8uB9jyR8gEElf+CVuNfOUkrUGg4HS4SbmTTrCSz3/8n5PkquSuAyjCB/dwM ZsZwA0/TTR8sDYlmlf9xPj5PGpGnV9OUwfig6eE0eWtRFeasmz0uiX+yp45ABtNh 6EXP/PFaBgXi9omXXjeeFYfpDvmfA6izvTIQfXTV6V9ZWrBfXarM+GQ+6guXWVbd 9fXvmCr982LkzuKQrK1OpRXBMUapXL+tOy/LYzz91InqKKhgPNGa12fvotZ4LzlM iqoM+Hpz5L9B5We1Ph0lD6RBVXDCqd+P8extnY/7AaDy7tC0UghaAaUuEZXJQPIc oQ3QGbpjM0nGe/VZN5EZhljau0NNENFaU56cOpvOhcO04gLGNNc2NS+rIpTMsaHh o1CG90c5zZZJuUbyx0mIHriNQXDgEwunSZPQorKK9KSppyyjeuOyi5F/mBBPXeyT weLhLqLvAr9se/+Z3aQvMADJi8zUZtGggLTw+N9R5XSwtSh2R4kARgQYEQIABgUC PkQIpwAKCRBbmvb9yuOVfWayAKC+mBhHdn1XZ5uH0RocAyJ32hx2kgCePyhB+IqM TjWLDLarQxcPYhbkFi4= =nx1M -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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Re: [p2p-hackers] Project Announcement: P2P Sockets (fwd from bradneuberg@yahoo.com) (fwd from morlockelloi@yahoo.com)
by Brad Neuberg 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

--- Eugen Leitl <eugen(a)leitl.org> wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Morlock Elloi > <morlockelloi(a)yahoo.com> ----- > > From: Morlock Elloi <morlockelloi(a)yahoo.com> > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:41:40 -0700 (PDT) > To: cypherpunks(a)lne.com > Subject: Re: [p2p-hackers] Project Announcement: P2P > Sockets (fwd from > bradneuberg(a)yahoo.com) > > > stable IP address. Super-peers on the Jxta network > run > > application-level routers which store special > > information such as how to reach peers, how to > join > > So these super peers are reliable, non-vulnerable, > although everyone knows > where they are, because .... ? > These super peers are known as Rendezvous peers in the Jxta world. They are as reliable and non-vulnerable as one could hope for, though I doubt they are perfect; I am building above the existing Jxta infrastructure for these. "Everyone" knows about them by using a common boostrap server to bootstrap into the Jxta network to gain the addresses of a few Rendezvous nodes. Rendezvous nodes then propagate information about their existence to other Rendezvous nodes at various times. Network partitions are certainly possible, and the requirement for a common bootstrap server is fragile. Jxta, and therefore P2P Sockets, currently has no protections against malicious/byzantine peers; it has relatively good protections against peers that fail non-maliciously. Brad Neuberg _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list p2p-hackers(a)zgp.org http://zgp.org/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers _______________________________________________ Here is a web page listing P2P Conferences: http://www.neurogrid.net/twiki/bin/view/Main/PeerToPeerConferences ----- End forwarded message ----- [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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Interesting interview with David Brin about privacy, etc.
by Bosley, John - BLS 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

For IP if you wish, Dave. John http://www.govtech.net/magazine/story.php?id=90772 <http://www.govtech.net/magazine/story.php?id=90772> John Bosley Office of Survey Methods Research Room 1950, Bureau of Labor Statistics 202-691-7514 fax 202-691-7426 OS X Summary In this place, all the myriad cameras report their urban scenes straight to Police Central, where security officers use sophisticated image-processors to scan for infractions against the public order -- or perhaps against an established way of thought. ...Over by the mall, a teenage shoplifter is taken into custody gingerly, with minute attention to ritual and rights, because the arresting officer knows the entire process is being scrutinized by untold numbers who watch intently, lest her neutral professionalism lapse. ...There, any citizen may tune in on bookings, arraignments, and especially the camera control room itself, making sure that the agents on duty look out for violent crime, and only crime. ...Still, taking that into account, it does seem clearer every day that the 21st century simply has to feature positive-sum games -- or ways everybody can benefit while minimizing the bad. ...I cannot prove with utter certainty that we won't face some genuine tradeoffs between safety and freedom, but I am sick of hearing that it's automatic -- assumed -- that they work against each other, that I must choose between these precious things. ...Q: In one interview about The Transparent Society, you spoke of the need for constant public supervision to enforce accountability on government -- metaphorically a "leash" to remind our guard dogs that they serve us. Does the two-way aspect of information transparency create that leash? ...Not one thing we do will reduce the growing power of elites to look at us. Nor should that matter, or reduce our freedom an iota, so long as we fiercely embrace the other solution. ...There are dozens of potential ways to increase accountability, while at the same time allowing our paid protectors to do their jobs better. ...You can't count the number of times you've seen on TV a debate between some civil libertarian and a "security expert" -- screaming at each other about this so-called "tradeoff." ...Stand on a street corner, and spend five minutes doing a slow turn, taking time to notice all the things that work -- the traffic lights, the sewers, the clean water, all the people being courteous to each other and taking turns. ...I also like having skilled cops, who know they might be on video at any moment, and therefore have decided to stop being paid thugs and instead be the kind of great professionals we saw in fiction, say on Adam 12. ...It's great, and they're getting all sorts of new tools to become better at it -- software tools, cameras, spy tools, biometric ID and surveillance -- tools that might also become dangerous to freedom, if we aren't careful. But even assuming they use these tools both honorably and well, there's just no way anticipation will always work. ...The trend of the 20th century -- toward professionalization of everything -- simply cannot go on. The 21st century has to be a time when people gradually take back some control of their lives. ...Every Cabinet department and military service -- almost every agency -- has an inspector general, whose job is to make sure the law is obeyed by those entrusted with state power. ...Hey, you can look at the future and shiver with fear, or you can peer ahead and say, 'How can we maximize the good while minimizing the bad?' ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as eugen(a)leitl.org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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[IP] Interesting interview with David Brin about privacy, etc.
by David Farber 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

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