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[Clips] But Wouldn't Warlords Take Over?
by R.A. Hettinga 07 Jul '05

07 Jul '05

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: clips(a)philodox.com Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:57:37 -0400 To: "Philodox Clips List" <clips(a)philodox.com> From: "R.A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: [Clips] But Wouldn't Warlords Take Over? Reply-To: rah(a)philodox.com Sender: clips-bounces(a)philodox.com --- begin forwarded text From: "Mises Daily Article" <article(a)mises.org> To: "Mises Daily Article" <article(a)mises.biglist.com> Subject: But Wouldn't Warlords Take Over? Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:30:03 -0400 Mailing-List: contact article-help(a)mises.biglist.com July Special: <http://www.mises.org/store/Myth-of-National-Defense-The-P171C0.aspx>The Myth of National Defense, 20% Off (from $25 to $20). But Wouldn't Warlords Take Over? by Robert Murphy <http://www.mises.org/story/1855>[Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005] On two separate occasions in the last couple of weeks, people have asked me a familiar question: In a system of anarcho-capitalism or the free-market order, wouldnt society degenerate into constant battles between private warlords? Unfortunately I didnt give adequate answers at the times, but I hope in this article to prove the adage that later is better than never. APPLES AND ORANGES When dealing with the warlord objection, we need to keep our comparisons fair. It wont do to compare society A, which is filled with evil, ignorant savages who live under anarchy, with society B, which is populated by enlightened, law-abiding citizens who live under limited government. The anarchist doesnt deny that life might be better in society B. What the anarchist does claim is that, for any given population, the imposition of a coercive government will make things worse. The absence of a State is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition to achieve the free society. To put the matter differently: It is not enough to demonstrate that a state of private-property anarchy could degenerate into ceaseless war, where no single group is strong enough to subjugate all challengers, and hence no one can establish order. After all, communities living under a State degenerate into civil war all the time. We should remember that the frequently cited cases of Colombia and now Iraq are not demonstrations of anarchy-turned-into-chaos, but rather examples of government-turned-into-chaos. For the warlord objection to work, the statist would need to argue that a given community would remain lawful under a government, but that the same community would break down into continuous warfare if all legal and military services were privatized. The popular case of Somalia, therefore, helps neither side.<http://www.mises.org/story/1855#_edn1>[i] It is true that Rothbardians should be somewhat disturbed that the respect for non-aggression is apparently too rare in Somalia to foster the spontaneous emergence of a totally free market community. But by the same token, the respect for the law was also too weak to allow <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Somalia#Somali_Civil_War>the original Somali government to maintain order. Now that weve focused the issue, I think there are strong reasons to suppose that civil war would be much less likely in a region dominated by private defense and judicial agencies, rather than by a monopoly State. Private agencies own the assets at their disposal, whereas politicians (especially in democracies) merely exercise temporary control over the States military equipment. Bill Clinton was perfectly willing to <http://news.telegraph.co.uk/htmlContent.jhtml?html=/archive/1998/08/21/wemb…>fire off dozens of cruise missiles when the Lewinsky scandal was picking up steam. Now regardless of ones beliefs about Clintons motivations, clearly Slick Willie would have been less likely to launch such an attack if he had been the CEO of a private defense agency that could have sold the missiles on the open market for <http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/missiles/wep-toma.html>$569,000 each .<http://www.mises.org/story/1855#_edn2>[ii] We can see this principle in the case of the United States. In the 1860s, would large scale combat have broken out on anywhere near the same scale if, instead of the two factions controlling hundreds of thousands of conscripts, all military commanders had to hire voluntary mercenaries and pay them a market wage for their services? CONTRACT THEORY OF GOVERNMENT I can imagine a reader generally endorsing the above analysis, yet still resisting my conclusion. He or she might say something like this: In a state of nature, people initially have different views of justice. Under market anarchy, different consumers would patronize dozens of defense agencies, each of which attempts to use its forces to implement incompatible codes of law. Now its true that these professional gangs might generally avoid conflict out of prudence, but the equilibrium would still be precarious. To avoid this outcome, my critic could elaborate, citizens put aside their petty differences and agree to support a single, monopoly agency, which then has the power to crush all challengers to its authority. This admittedly raises the new problem of controlling the Leviathan, but at least it solves the problem of ceaseless domestic warfare. There are several problems with this possible approach. First, it assumes that the danger of private warlords is worse than the threat posed by a tyrannical central government. Second, there is the inconvenient fact that no such voluntary formation of a State ever occurred. Even those citizens who, say, supported the ratification of the U.S. Constitution were never given the option of living in market anarchy; instead they had to choose between government under the Articles of Confederation or government under the Constitution. But for our purposes, the most interesting problem with this objection is that, were it an accurate description, it would be unnecessary for such a people to form a government. If, by hypothesis, the vast majority of peoplealthough they have different conceptions of justicecan all agree that it is wrong to use violence to settle their honest disputes, then market forces would lead to peace among the private police agencies. Yes, it is perfectly true that people have vastly different opinions concerning particular legal issues. Some people favor capital punishment, some consider abortion to be murder, and there would be no consensus on how many guilty people should go free to avoid the false conviction of one innocent defendant. Nonetheless, if the contract theory of government is correct, the vast majority of individuals can agree that they should settle these issues not through force, but rather through an orderly procedure (such as is provided by periodic elections). But if this does indeed describe a particular population, why would we expect such virtuous people, as consumers, to patronize defense agencies that routinely used force against weak opponents? Why wouldnt the vast bulk of reasonable customers patronize defense agencies that had interlocking arbitration agreements, and submitted their legitimate disputes to reputable, disinterested arbitrators? Why wouldnt the private, voluntary legal framework function as an orderly mechanism to settle matters of public policy? Again, the above description would not apply to every society in history. But by the same token, such warlike people would also fail to maintain the rule of law in a limited State. FREE RIDERS? A sophisticated apologist for the Stateespecially one versed in mainstream economicsmight come back with yet another justification: The reason a limited government is necessary is that we cant trust the market to adequately fund legitimate police forces. It may be true that 95 percent of a population would have similar enough views with respect to justice such that peace would obtain if they all contributed substantially to defense agencies dedicated to enforcing their views. However, the apologist could continue, if these police agencies have no right to extract contributions from everyone who endorses their actions, then they will be able to field a much smaller force. The market fails specifically because of the free rider problem: When a legitimate firm cracks down on a rogue agency, all law abiding people benefit, but in a free market they would not be obliged to pay for this public good. Consequently, rogue agencies, funded by malevolent outlaws, will have a much wider scope of operation under anarchy. Again, there are several possible replies to such a position. First, let us reflect that a large standing army, ready to crush minority dissenters, is not an unambiguously desirable feature of government. Second, the alleged problem of free riders would not be nearly as disastrous as many economists believe. For example, insurance companies would internalize the externalities to a large degree. It may be true that an inefficient number of serial killers would be apprehended if the relevant detective and police agencies had to solicit contributions from individual households. (Sure, everyone gets a slight benefit from knowing a serial killer has been caught, but whether or not one person contributes probably wont make the difference between capture or escape.) Yet insurance companies that each held policies for thousands of people in a major city would be willing to contribute hefty amounts to eliminate the menace of a serial killer. (After all, if he kills again, one of these companies will have to pay out hundreds of thousands of dollars to the estate of the victim.) The same reasoning demonstrates that the free market could adequately fund programs to contain rogue agencies. Third, people need to really picture the nightmare scenario to see how absurd it is. Imagine a bustling city, such as New York, that is initially a free market paradise. Is it really plausible that over time rival gangs would constantly grow, and eventually terrorize the general public?<http://www.mises.org/story/1855#_edn3>[iii] Remember, these would be admittedly criminal organizations; unlike the city government of New York, there would be no ideological support for these gangs. We must consider that in such an environment, the law-abiding majority would have all sorts of mechanisms at their disposal, beyond physical confrontation. Once private judges had ruled against a particular rogue agency, the private banks could freeze its assets (up to the amount of fines levied by the arbitrators). In addition, the private utility companies could shut down electricity and water to the agencys headquarters, in accordance with standard provisions in their contracts. <http://www.mises.org/store/Myth-of-National-Defense-The-P171C0.aspx> <http://www.mises.org/store/Myth-of-National-Defense-The-P171C0.aspx>The Myth of National Defense, 20% off Of course, it is theoretically possible that a rogue agency could overcome these obstacles, either through intimidation or division of the spoils, and take over enough banks, power companies, grocery stores, etc. that only full-scale military assault would conquer it. But the point is, from an initial position of market anarchy, these would-be rulers would have to start from scratch. In contrast, under even a limited government, the machinery of mass subjugation is ready and waiting to be seized. CONCLUSION The standard objection that anarchy would lead to battling warlords is unfounded. In those communities where such an outcome would occur, the addition of a State wouldnt help. Indeed, the precise opposite is true: The voluntary arrangements of a private property society would be far more conducive to peace and the rule of law, than the coercive setup of a parasitical monopoly government. <mailto:robert_p_murphy@yahoo.com>Robert Murphy is an adjunct scholar of the Mises Institute. He teaches economics at Hillsdale College. See the Murphy <http://www.mises.org/articles.asp?mode=a&author=Murphy>Archive. Buy his <http://www.mises.org/store/Chaos-Theory-P190C0.aspx>book on the stateless society. Discuss this article on the <http://www.mises.org/blog>blog. <http://www.mises.org/story/1855#_ednref1>[i] Having made this concession, I should point out that <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Somalia#Recent_History>anarcho-capitalists can see their theories borne out in Somalia to some extent. <http://www.mises.org/story/1855#_ednref2>[ii] Its true that this figure would be lower for a private defense firm, since it would control costs much better than the Pentagon. Nonetheless it is still true that a private firm would husband its stockpile of weapons better than State officials. <http://www.mises.org/story/1855#_ednref3>[iii] Let us also keep in mind that currently, mob groups (1) do not extract anywhere near as much money, nor kill as many people, as any government in a typical days work, and (2) they derive their current strength from government prohibitions (on gambling, drugs, prostitution, loan-sharking, etc.) and hence are not representative at all of an anarchist world. In response to many requests, it is now possible to set your credit-card contribution to the Mises Institute to be recurring. You can easily set this up on-line with a donation starting at $10 per month. See the <https://www.mises.org/donate.asp>Membership Page. 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[Clips] Re: [Forwarded] RealID: How to become an unperson.
by R.A. Hettinga 07 Jul '05

07 Jul '05

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: clips(a)philodox.com Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:50:46 -0400 To: "Philodox Clips List" <clips(a)philodox.com> From: "R.A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: [Clips] Re: [Forwarded] RealID: How to become an unperson. Reply-To: rah(a)philodox.com Sender: clips-bounces(a)philodox.com --- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: cryptography(a)metzdowd.com To: hadmut(a)danisch.de Cc: cryptography(a)metzdowd.com Subject: Re: [Forwarded] RealID: How to become an unperson. From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry(a)piermont.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:52:28 -0400 User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) Sender: owner-cryptography(a)metzdowd.com hadmut(a)danisch.de writes: > But nevertheless, I do not understand why americans are so afraid of > an ID card. Perhaps I can explain why I am. I do not trust governments. I've inherited this perspective. My grandfather sent his children abroad from Speyer in Germany just after the ascension of Adolf Hitler in the early 1930s -- his neighbors thought he was crazy, but few of them survived the coming events. My father was sent to Alsace, but he stayed too long in France and ended up being stuck there after the occupation. If it were not for forged papers, he would have died. (He had a most amusing story of working as an electrician rewiring a hotel used as office space by the Gestapo in Strasbourg -- his forged papers were apparently good enough that no one noticed.) Ultimately, he and other members of the family escaped France by "illegally" crossing the border into Switzerland. (I put "illegally" in quotes because I don't believe one has any moral obligation to obey a "law" like that, especially since it would leave you dead if you obeyed.) Anyway, if the governments of the time had actually had access to modern anti-forgery techniques, I might never have been born. To you, ID cards are a nice way to keep things orderly. To me, they are a potential death sentence. Most Europeans seem to see government as the friendly, nice set of people who keep the trains running on time and who watch out for your interests. A surprisingly large fraction of Americans are people or the descendants of people who experienced the institution of government as the thing that tortured their friends to death, or gassed them, or stole all their money and nearly starved them to death, etc. Hundreds of millions of people died at the hands of their own governments in the 20th century, and many of the people that escaped from such horrors moved here. They view things like ID cards and mandatory registry of residence with the local police as the way that the government rounded up their friends and relatives so they could be killed. I do not wish to argue about which view is correct. Perhaps I am wrong and Government really is the large friendly group of people that are there to help you. Perhaps the cost/benefit analysis of ID cards and such makes us look silly. I'm not addressing the question of whether my view is right here -- I'm just trying to explain the psychological mindset that would make someone think ID cards are a very bad idea. So, the next time one of your friends in Germany asks why the crazy Americans think ID cards and such are a bad thing, remember my father, and remember all the people like him who fled to the US over the last couple hundred years and who left children that still remember such things, whether from China or North Korea or Germany or Spain or Russia or Yugoslavia or Chile or lots of other places. Perry --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)metzdowd.com --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' _______________________________________________ Clips mailing list Clips(a)philodox.com http://www.philodox.com/mailman/listinfo/clips --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good
by Steve Schear 07 Jul '05

07 Jul '05

At 10:19 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote: >On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Jay Listo wrote: > > > Well, once the Supreme Court starts coming up with stuff like this, you > > know you've been Bush-whacked. > >Maybe you should take another look at who voted how. The Bushies >dissented on this opinion. Go figure. Not surprising at all. The Bush camp's court agenda is spearheaded by members of the Federalist Society which wants to roll back many of the SC's decisions of the early-mid 20th century (esp. the Social Security Act and the expansion of the Commerce Clause during FDR's reign). Steve

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06 Jul '05

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The Nazification Of America ("Show Me Your Papers" - Day 1)
by J.A. Terranson 06 Jul '05

06 Jul '05

For those of you who may have missed it, today was the first day of the new "Real ID Act", a/k/a, the American Nazification Papers Act. I wouldn't have know myself except that I recently moved, and wanted to exchange my current Illinois drivers license for a Missouri one. Not so fast... "You have a passport?" "No, I don't travel." "A certified copy of your original birth certificate?" "Haven't had one since I was born, fifty years ago. And since I was born about 1500 miles from here, getting one is no small task." "Too bad. Your old license is invalid and you can't get another one in any state, starting today, without at least one of the two documents, PLUS secondary ID to back them up." Even though I have a current license, and even though I am in their system as having held a valid Missouri license for 15+ years, photo included, none of it is good enough. OK, so I have no choice, I go to the post office to get a Passport - same thing. Fine, I'll just order the birth certificate and get it over with, right? Wrong. New York wants affirmative proof of identity for a copy now: passport or your [missing] original birth certificate. Anyone else see a circular problem here? "I need a new birth certificate because the old one was lost about forty years ago. And I don't have a passport to prove my identity." "Get your parents to testify who you are, and make sure they bring their passports." "They are both dead." "Sorry Sir, I'm afraid we won't be able to help you then." <click> Durbin was right. And he didn't even scratch the surface! Anyone who thinks this "Real ID Act" is about getting false ID out of the hands of "The Terrorists" is an idiot: they will simply print their own drivers licenses - this is about forcing the regular population to get used to intrastate passports. This act essentially forces you to have a passport for everyday things like banking, car purchases and certain repairs, checks, etc. We have literally allowed the Nazification to begin, and we've even welcomed it with eager open arms - all in the name of "Fighting Terror". Crystal clear, pure unadulterated bullshit. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin(a)mfn.org 0xBD4A95BF "Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty." Joseph Pulitzer 1907 Speech

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Fingernails store personal information
by Eugen Leitl 06 Jul '05

06 Jul '05

At least, here you don't have to lose a whole digit if your biometrics is compromised. http://optics.org/articles/news/11/7/4 Fingernails store personal information 6 July 2005 Japanese researchers are using femtosecond laser pulses to write data into human fingernails. Secure optical data storage could soon literally be at your fingertips thanks to work being carried out in Japan. Yoshio Hayasaki and his colleagues have discovered that data can be written into a human fingernail by irradiating it with femtosecond laser pulses. Capacities are said to be up to 5 mega bits and the stored data lasts for 6 months - the length of time it takes a fingernail to be completely replaced. (Optics Express 13 4560) Fingernail storage "I don't like carrying around a large number of cards, money and papers," Hayasaki from Tokushima University told Optics.org. "I think that a key application will be personal authentication. Data stored in a fingernail can be used with biometrics, such as fingerprint authentication and intravenous authentication of the finger." The team's approach is simple: use a femtosecond laser system to write the data into the nail and a fluorescence microscope to read it out. The key to reading the data out is that the nail's fluorescence increases at the point irradiated by the femtosecond pulses. Initial experiments were carried out on a small piece of human fingernail measuring 2 x 2 x 0.4 mm3. The writing system comprises a Ti:Sapphire oscillator and Ti: Sapphire amplifier. Pulses of less than 100 fs at 800 nm are then passed through a microscope and focused to three set depths (40, 60 and 80 microns) using an objective lens. Each "bit" of information has a diameter of 3.1 microns and is written by a single femtosecond pulse. A motorised stage moves the nail to create a bit spacing of 5 microns across the nail and a depth of 20 microns between recording layers. An optical microscope containing a filtered xenon arc lamp excites the fluorescence and reads out the data stored at the various depths. "We regulate the focus with the movement of the microscope objective," explained Hayasaki. "The distance between the planes is set to prevent cross-talk between data stored at different depths." Hayasaki adds that the same fluorescence signal is seen 172 days after recording. Although the initial experiments have concentrated on small pieces of nail, the team is now developing a system that can write data to a fingernail which is still attached to a finger. "We will develop a femtosecond laser processing system that can record the data at the desired points with compensation for the movement of a finger," said Hayasaki. Author Jacqueline Hewett is technology editor on Optics.org and Opto & Laser Europe magazine. -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]

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06 Jul '05

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