July 2004 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: vacuum-safe laptops ?
by Major Variola (ret) 17 Jul '04

17 Jul '04

At 04:03 AM 7/17/04 +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote: >On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote: >> Sorry so late ---but your can-shaped capacitors might not handle the >> rapid depressurization so well. > >Perhaps it's time to challenge the introductory assumption. Why a laptop? >There are many various embedded computers available on the market, eg. the >one from <http://www.gumstix.com/>. Um, even the small form factor PC on a board the size of your palm may still rely on caps in the power supply that don't handle 760 to 0 mm Hg/min so readily. Otherwise, there are many small PCs on a card if you look into the embedded marketplace. Complete with solid state disks, etc. COTS. Power dissipation is not a problem if you use a CPU like Via's and have a nice radiative heatsink. Or dick with Peltier-effect junctions at the expense of watts. ARM's edge is low power, but you may not want to run Linux or BSD or a RTOS, perhaps anon actually wants to run M$ in a low pressure environ. Perhaps that's why he's anonymous :-) My guess is regular ole airplane takeoff, but its not quite 0 torr at 35Kfeet, and I *think* the cargo part is pressurized, lest Fido suffocate. And while a SAM would be a great science fair project, you don't go above that limit. Perhaps anon will be a space tourist, wanting to take notes, on something heavier than a PDA+keyboard. I once TA'd at a UC, one advanced ugrad had a project for an atmospheric science prof building a board for the nose of a spyplane, to sample the air. (For ozone, not nucleotides. No, really.) He was interested in vibration problems; I told him to take his proto board on an offroad trip in his car to shake out the moths. Am not sure that epoxy cover makes a difference, the board manuf. go to lengths to avoid air pockets under traces, the ICs themselves fairly (albeit not guaranteed) encapsulated in an epoxy mix. We-all being scientists, I'd suggest looking up with the vacuum hobbyists do with fridge pumps, etc, and doing a bit of testing. I've even seen using a CRT as a vacuum source, break the glass neck and shazaam, a few litres of hard vacuum. -------- Got Kalman filtering?

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Re: vacuum-safe laptops ?
by Tyler Durden 17 Jul '04

17 Jul '04

Sorry to need educating once again, but I had assumed can-shaped capacitors were gone from laptops in lieu of surface mount. Anyone know? (I don't own a laptop.) -TD >From: "Major Variola (ret)" <mv(a)cdc.gov> >To: "cypherpunks(a)al-qaeda.net" <cypherpunks(a)al-qaeda.net> >Subject: Re: vacuum-safe laptops ? >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:27:56 -0700 > >At 06:35 AM 7/16/04 -0400, An Metet wrote: > >Does anyone *know* (first or second hand, I can speculate myself) which >laptops, if any, can safely go to zero air pressure (dropping from 1 atm >to 0 in, say, 1 minute.) > >Sorry so late ---but your can-shaped capacitors might not handle the >rapid depressurization >so well. > >MV > > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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Re: vacuum-safe laptops ?
by Major Variola (ret) 17 Jul '04

17 Jul '04

At 06:35 AM 7/16/04 -0400, An Metet wrote: >Does anyone *know* (first or second hand, I can speculate myself) which laptops, if any, can safely go to zero air pressure (dropping from 1 atm to 0 in, say, 1 minute.) Sorry so late ---but your can-shaped capacitors might not handle the rapid depressurization so well. MV

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Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt
by Major Variola (ret) 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

At 03:34 PM 7/16/04 -0400, Nostra2004(a)SAFe-mail.net wrote: >> > I posted a few months back offering an alternative to religion in >> > recruitment: the terminally ill. >> >> That's not good for this purpose; their lifetime is too short. > >Do you have evidence to support this (e.g., average survivial times of the TI from their first learning about their condition)? When I find out that I have 6 months left, I will take up motorcycle riding, which my parents prohibited, probably resulting in my respiring currently. A lone sleeper cell for the Constitution would not be so far from this. Should they draft my son, I might have to practice a bit of chemistry (or get a friggin scope and zero it) just then, he being at times a reason for my living. Many slaves died trying to escape, I suspect. However, I have no terminal illness, so its all moot, take note, Herrs Spooks. Have a nice day.

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Re: "Terror in the Skies, Again?"
by Major Variola (ret) 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

At 02:19 PM 7/16/04 -0500, Riad S. Wahby wrote: >I don't quite know what to make of this. Is it just paranoid rambling? > >http://www.womenswallstreet.com/WWS/article_landing.aspx?titleid=1&articlei… > What I experienced during that >flight has caused me to question whether the United States of America >can realistically uphold the civil liberties of every individual, even >non-citizens, and protect its citizens from terrorist threats. > Ask the American citizens interned in California during WWII..

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Re: US Seeks Bobby Fischer Extradition
by Major Variola (ret) 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

At 10:30 AM 7/16/04 -0700, Eric Cordian wrote: >So it should be interesting to see how this case unfolds, in a country where Martha >Stewart can go to prison for lying, but Colin Powell can't. Colin was/is played the fool. He was a killer, wanted to be a diplomat. They had to let him; but he's so out of the Real Loop is comedic. thanks for the news re BF. Supposedly my ancestors go back to Abraham, but you've largely convinced me to get over the default amerikan zionism. The germans should have given up a slice of the coast of the Med., price of war, a lot nicer than some desert, fuck the books. Really the UK's fault, but the progression is Romans, Brits, then US. But empire == death, <insert Bob Dylan (perhaps cover)> song here, how many whatevers, fuck it, if it moves, bomb it, if you're not with us you're up the chimneys.

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"Terror in the Skies, Again?"
by Riad S. Wahby 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

I don't quite know what to make of this. Is it just paranoid rambling? http://www.womenswallstreet.com/WWS/article_landing.aspx?titleid=1&articlei… "Terror in the Skies, Again?" By Annie Jacobsen Note from the E-ditors: You are about to read an account of what happened during a domestic flight that one of our writers, Annie Jacobsen, took from Detroit to Los Angeles. The WWS Editorial Team debated long and hard about how to handle this information and ultimately we decided it was something that should be shared. What does it have to do with finances? Nothing, and everything. Here is Annie's story. On June 29, 2004, at 12:28 p.m., I flew on Northwest Airlines flight #327 from Detroit to Los Angeles with my husband and our young son. Also on our flight were 14 Middle Eastern men between the ages of approximately 20 and 50 years old. What I experienced during that flight has caused me to question whether the United States of America can realistically uphold the civil liberties of every individual, even non-citizens, and protect its citizens from terrorist threats. ... -- Riad S. Wahby rsw(a)jfet.org

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RE: We werent doing anything wrong
by Nostra2004＠SAFe-mail.net 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

-------- Original Message -------- From: "Tyler Durden" <camera_lumina(a)hotmail.com> To: Nostra2004(a)SAFe-mail.net, cypherpunks(a)al-qaeda.net Subject: RE: We werent doing anything wrong Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:26:53 -0400 > So...given the legal precedent, might a "citizen's arrest" of the arresting > agents be defensible in court? (This assumes that there are large numbers of > protestors, of course, willing to apprehend the rogue officers.) AFAIK, citizens are still free to arrest anyone they see comitting a crime, however dangerous to one's health :) It might be much more effective for some terminally ill 'demonstartors' to use some sort of difficult to detect explosives that they could detonate if an attempt were made to arrest them for asserting their right to free speeech.

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RE: We werent doing anything wrong
by Tyler Durden 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

So...given the legal precedent, might a "citizen's arrest" of the arresting agents be defensible in court? (This assumes that there are large numbers of protestors, of course, willing to apprehend the rogue officers.) -TD >From: Nostra2004(a)SAFe-mail.net >To: cypherpunks(a)al-qaeda.net >Subject: We werent doing anything wrong >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:36:32 -0400 > >http://www.wvgazettemail.com/static/stories/2004071346.html > >Couple in anti-Bush T-shirts were arrested at presidents speech >By Tara Tuckwiller >tara(a)wvgazette.com > >A husband and wife who wore anti-Bush T-shirts to the presidents Fourth of >July appearance arent going down without a fight: They will be represented >by lawyers from the American Civil Liberties Union as they contest the >trespassing charges against them Thursday morning in Charleston Municipal >Court. > >Police took Nicole and Jeff Rank away in handcuffs from the event, which >was billed as a presidential appearance, not a campaign rally. They were >wearing T-shirts that read, Love America, Hate Bush. > >Spectators who wore pro-Bush T-shirts and Bush-Cheney campaign buttons were >allowed to stay. > >We werent doing anything wrong, said Jeff Rank. The couple, who said >they had tickets just like everybody else, said they simply stood around >the Capitol steps with the rest of the spectators. > >We sang the national anthem, Rank said. > >The Ranks hardly fit the image of rabble-rousers. Jeff Rank, 29, has a >masters degree in oceanography. Nicole Rank, 30, has degrees in biological >science and marine biology. They have been married for seven years. > >Nicole Rank arrived in Charleston soon after the Memorial Day floods. She >was working as deputy environmental liaison officer for the Federal >Emergency Management Agency, making sure cities and counties obeyed federal >environmental laws as they repaired roads and bridges. > >After police arrested the Ranks, fingerprinted them and took their mug >shots, FEMA told Nicole Rank she was no longer needed in West Virginia. > >I have not been fired per se, she said. But I was released from this >job. And when they release you from a job, you no longer get paid. > >The Ranks started to go home to Corpus Christi, Texas, but they only got as >far as Roanoke, Va., when it occurred to them that they might not be able >to contest their arrest if they werent in Charleston on their court date. >A phone call confirmed their suspicions. So they turned around. > >Weve been living in motels ever since, said Jeff Rank, who spent Tuesday >evening in his motel room with his wife, their cocker spaniel Feinman, and >their marmalade cat Rowr. > >Its extremely difficult [financially]. We can only afford to do this for >so long. > >But they had to stay and fight the charges, he said, because we didnt >think we were guilty. > >Since Bush took office in early 2001, people have been banned from >displaying anti-Bush messages at dozens of Bush appearances across the >country. In September, the ACLU filed a federal lawsuit against the Secret >Service, seeking an injunction against the Bush administration for >segregating protesters at his public appearances. > >The Secret Service agreed that such censorship was wrong, said Witold >Walczak, one of the lawyers that filed the lawsuit. > >They had an internal memo dated September 2002, saying they couldnt treat >protesters differently or worse than anyone else at a presidential >appearance, Walczak said. The judge said any agent responsible for doing >so could be held liable for damages. > >The Secret Service had been telling local police to sequester anyone >displaying an anti-administration message, usually in areas completely out >of sight and earshot of Bush. Because the Secret Service agreed with the >ACLU that it shouldnt be doing that, the judge dismissed the case. > >Prior to filing our suit in September, wed get a couple of confirmed >protest zone complaints every month, Walczak said. After we filed, >there were practically none. We had two documented incidents between >September and March: one in Little Rock, Ark., and one in Knoxville, Tenn. > >But now, lawyers like Walczak are carefully monitoring cases like the >Ranks and two similar incidents recently in Pennsylvania. > >Were trying to assess what is going on at these appearances ... whether >these protest zones are resuming, he said. > >We are continuing to monitor all campaign events by both Republican and >Democratic candidates. Were prepared to go back into court if we see >discrimination occurring. > >Because Bushs Fourth of July stop in Charleston was billed as an official >presidential visit, not a campaign rally, That makes it an even more >glaring violation of the First Amendment, said Andrew Schneider, executive >director of the ACLU of West Virginia. > >Its an Orwellian way to keep speech out of sight of those the speech is >intended to critique ... We want to nip this in the bud before it becomes a >habit of future administrations. > >A Bush spokesman did not return a telephone call seeking comment on the >necessity of the free speech zone. > >To contact staff writer Tara Tuckwiller, use e-mail or call 348-5189. > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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Blast from the past: USENET Transport Binding for SOAP 1.1
by Nostra2004＠SAFe-mail.net 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

USENET Transport Binding for SOAP 1.1 10 February 2002 Authors (alphabetically): Sister Tornado Copyright) 2002 Sister Tornado. Reproduce with credit at will. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Abstract SOAP [1] is a lightweight protocol for exchange of information in a decentralized, distributed environment, using XML. This document details transporting SOAP messages over the USENET. [2] Status This is a draft. Table of Contents 1. Introduction 1.1 Notational Conventions 2. Use Of USENET Message body 2.1 Encoding 3. Identifying USENET transports in WSDL 4. Request / Response semantics 5. Examples 6. Security Considerations 7. References 1. Introduction By binding SOAP to USENET, we can take advantage of USENET's store and forward messaging to provide an asynchronous, broadcast, one way transport for SOAP. Two one way messages can be correlated to provide request / response semantics (this closely follows the SOAP model). This allows SOAP to be used in a number of scenarios where HTTP is not suitable (partially connected nodes, one way notifications etc.) The author wishes to acknowledge that the shameless cribbing of much of the text from "SMTP Transport Binding for SOAP 1.1 " [0]. 1.1 Notational Conventions The keywords "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC-2119 [3]. 2. Use of USENET Standard 2.1 Use of USENET Message Headers The USENET Message standard requires the use of a Subject field. This field SHOULD be used to identify the service being called. For example: Subject: SoapRobot 2.2 Use of USENET Message body SOAP payloads in USENET MUST be packaged into the body of the USENET message. 2.3 Encoding A content transfer encoding of base64 is RECOMMENDED. A content transfer encoding of Quoted-Printable MAY be used if the SOAP payload meets the requirements of RFC-1036 [2]. 3. Identifying USENET transports in WSDL The URI http://schemas.xmlsoap.com/soap/usenet/ SHOULD be used to identify USENET transports compliant with this specification in the transport attribute of the soap:binding element of a WSDL [4] document (see section 3.3 of the WSDL spec.) The address of the SOAP service in the soap:address element of a WSDL document SHOULD be the name or handle of the intended recipient and a comma-delimitedlist of newsgroups where a request may be posted. For example: <soap:address location="DarkNet(a)example.alt.soap.messages.trendy,example.alt.soap.messages.fake"> 4. Request / Response semantics SOAP applications requiring request / response semantics will need to perform some sort of message correlation. This SHOULD be achieved via the standard Message-Id and Followup-To USENET headers [2]. The request will include a Message-Id header, and the associated response should include a Followup-To header that contains the Message-Id of the request, and a new Message-Id header. The responder SHOULD also reflect the incoming subject header into the response, prefixing it with "Re: ". 5. Example A request destined for SoapRobot(a)example.soap.messages

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