December 2004 - cypherpunks-legacy

Frank Zappa, american composer
by Major Variola (ret) 18 Dec '04

18 Dec '04

At 08:56 PM 12/17/04 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote: >the shiny pages of ''Hippie'' is to breathe deeply. My copy fell open at a >manifesto by Frank Zappa, in which he admitted that ''A freak is not a >freak if ALL are freaks,'' and went on to assert that ''Looking and acting >eccentric IS NOT ENOUGH.'' How true. I didn't bother wasting my attention enough to see if FZ was deemed a freak or not in this article. I will tell you that he was not into pharmaceuticals but was one of the finest american composers of the last century ---and Tipper Gore[1] will burn in hell for wasting his time. If you want to appreciate his brilliance, the _yellow shark_ album (which puts to music the US form required of immigrants) will inform you. [1] A publicly known mentally ill person who spawned drug-abusing future citizens and slept with liars.

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Where Aquarius Went
by R.A. Hettinga 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

<http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/19/books/review/19HITCHEN.html?8bu=&oref=log…> The New York Times December 19, 2004 Where Aquarius Went By CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS HIPPIE By Barry Miles. Illustrated. 384 pp. Sterling Publishing. $24.95. WHAT'S GOING ON? California and the Vietnam Era. Edited by Marcia A. Eymann and Charles Wollenberg. Illustrated. 209 pp. Oakland Museum of California/University of California Press. Paper, $49.95. BACK FROM THE LAND How Young Americans Went to Nature in the 1970's, and Why They Came Back. By Eleanor Agnew. Illustrated. 274 pp. Ivan R. Dee. $27.50. IN the summer of 1989 I was a speaker at a memorial for Abbie Hoffman. This was a rolling and unstructured all-day event, but at the closing moment the stage held the simultaneous presence of Bobby Seale, Norman Mailer, Amiri Baraka, William Kunstler, Terry Southern, Allen Ginsberg and one or two others whose names collectively spelled ''sixties.'' Camera lights popped and there were many independent filmmakers squinting through lenses. I later wanted a photograph of myself in this lineup, but was told after exhaustive inquiries that none of the organizers or participants could lay hands on even one. Thus I rediscovered the metaphysical truth that if you claim to recall the decade you were not really there. (Also, if you lay any claim to have been commemorating the high points of the 60's after a lapse of two further decades there is no proof that you were there, either.) Yet photographs (plus a certain pungent reek that some people, such as myself, never actually inhaled) are the best mnemonic prompting. To turn the shiny pages of ''Hippie'' is to breathe deeply. My copy fell open at a manifesto by Frank Zappa, in which he admitted that ''A freak is not a freak if ALL are freaks,'' and went on to assert that ''Looking and acting eccentric IS NOT ENOUGH.'' How true. And yet, what a long time it took to find that out. Here they all are: Jim Morrison and Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and Brian Jones -- this book includes a good deal of the British scene -- Bob Dylan and Timothy Leary. (The latter, the last time I saw him in the early 90's, was planning to have himself cryogenically frozen but was ''not to be reanimated during a Republican administration.'') Occasionally, there is a picture that jars. What exactly is Martin Luther King Jr. doing in a book with a title like this? He is standing on a road outside Selma under a billowing Stars and Stripes. He's wearing a suit and tie. He's not even trying to look or act eccentric, let alone freakish. The marketing of the 60's has come to necessitate the blending of quite discrepant images: the dogs of Selma and the bearded Puritans of the Cuban revolution, along with the moon-faced narcissists and dropouts of Haight-Ashbury and the groupie-draped avatars of rock. (Francis Ford Coppola later managed this subliminal association even better, synthesizing the music of The Doors with the near-psychedelic bloom of napalm in the verdant foliage.) This would be another way of saying that the days of love and peace had their sordid and nasty side, too. The Haight-Ashbury section of San Francisco was idyllic for about five minutes before the following famous flier was distributed: ''Pretty little 16-year-old middle-class chick comes to the Haight to see what it's all about & gets picked up by a 17-year-old street dealer who spends all day shooting her full of speed again & again, then feeds her 3,000 mikes & raffles off her temporarily unemployed body for the biggest Haight Street gang bang since the night before last. The politics & ethics of ecstasy.'' The ''3,000 mikes'' there are micrograms of LSD (''Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds'' in the Sergeant Pepper ecstatic version) and represent 12 times the ''normal'' dose. I still know people who undertook such voyages of the imagination, or had them inflicted upon themselves, and who never quite came back. It is conventional to say that ''the 60's'' of the herbivorous -- in both senses -- Woodstock ended with the homicidal events of the Rolling Stones concert at Altamont (where Hell's Angels beat and stabbed a man to death in front of the stage) and with the sadistic fiesta of Charles Manson on Cielo Drive in Beverly Hills. Why is it conventional to say this? Largely because it is true. The Christlike beard of John Lennon mutates into the Judas-like visage of ''Charlie,'' whose disciples were robotic and spaced-out sadists. It was an open secret even at the time that some of the supposed ''communes'' were places of twisted, paranoid cultism -- the pseudo-Satanic ''Process'' group was one such warning -- and in retrospect the subsequent events of Jonestown seem easy to predict. Yet Frank Zappa and John Lennon were icons on the wall of Vaclav Havel, who had always considered himself a ''60's person'' and, two decades later, helped bring down an unsmiling authoritarianism without a shot being fired -- and to the accompaniment of a joyous effusion of rock music, jazz, improvised theater and blue jeans. To the extent that the decade had a moral seriousness that could be transmitted forward, this inhered in the partly spontaneous opposition to an unjust war in Indochina, and to the coincidence of this movement with the battle for civil rights. To this day, there are people who are convinced that they took part in these struggles just by being young and alive at the time, and who have the beads and the Dylan albums to prove it. A great merit of ''What's Going On?'' is that it recreates, more in words than pictures -- though there are some arresting photographs -- the especially tough way in which this was all fought out in the nation's most various and politicized state (if I may say that without offending New York readers). It was in the San Francisco Bay Area, especially, that the convergence of campus rebels, black militants and antiwar activists was most vividly on show. Many of the activists were short-haired and white-shirted Marxists of one stripe or another, who leafleted factories and served in the field with indentured farmworkers while trying to ''shut down'' the bases and induction centers that serviced the hideous war on the other side of the Pacific. Easy as it is to mock the atmosphere of Berkeley -- ''Berserkely'' -- in those days, there was a thread that connected the free speech movement to the freedom riders and to the exposure of depraved statecraft overseas, and this volume restores that connection with exemplary force. A rather telling chapter, toward the end of the book, recounts the long battle to build a Vietnam memorial in Orange County, Calif., this time to honor the many thousands of Vietnamese who fought against Ho Chi Minh and whose refugee families constitute one of the largest minorities in the state. It's brave of the editors to have included what many people think of as an irony of history -- an irony that is at their own expense. The friends I just mentioned, who took LSD and never quite returned from the trip, are in a different category from the friends who left town and seemingly disappeared altogether. Every now and then, one would hear people talk in mysterious tones about log cabins or geodesic domes on virgin land in Vermont or Montana, and the growing of organic vegetables. John Denver's song ''Country Roads'' made West Virginia a favored destination. Then there would be a brisk exit from the blighted city, with a car towing an assortment of furniture, tools, pets and sometimes children. The pull of nature and authenticity, so imbricated in the original material of the American Dream, had overcome the easy temptations of materialism. For me, there are only two really memorable scenes in ''Easy Rider.'' The first is when Jack Nicholson edges in from the side of the screen and we know at once that something has happened to American acting. The second is when Fonda and Hopper pull up at a remote rural commune where, among other things, bearded boys and full-skirted girls are broadcasting seeds into furrows from improvised sacks. (''You can tell just by looking,'' said a comrade of mine at the time, ''that nothing's gonna grow in those furrows except footprints.'') There was always a slight embarrassment to be experienced when these would-be Amish came sidling back to town, to resume work in brokerages and banks and universities. To this day, that especially vile reminder of the epoch -- the graying and greasy ponytail trailing off the balding pate -- is their living memorial. Eleanor Agnew's lovely memoir of this movement of primal innocence is at once honest and hilarious. She recaptures the period with unerring skill: a period when the Apollo mission had shown us our fragile, blue planetary home from outer space, thus promoting (first) ''The Whole Earth Catalog'' and (second) a mentality that despised the science and innovation necessary for the taking of that photograph in the first place. Countless educated young Americans went off the map, in pursuit of Walden or some other version of bucolic utopia. They learned to chop wood and sometimes to grow crops, and they got hypothermia and piles. Irving Howe, when attacked for being a sellout by some young master of certitude at Columbia University, turned on his tormentor and hissed: ''You know what you're going to be? You're going to end up as a dentist.'' This was meant, in the context, as an impressive put-down of bourgeois aspirations. Yet here is John Armstrong, from a family of dentists in Michigan, who is introduced to us by Agnew with the perfect pitch she brings to quotations. Armstrong ''started a premed program in college but 'quickly discovered that medicine wasn't my bag, which shouldn't be misconstrued to mean that I had the slightest clue as to what my bag might be.' '' With his new wife Darma -- a name that just might be coincidental -- he embarked on homesteading in the Upper Peninsula of his home state and found it very snowy indeed. It was probably just as well that neither he nor Darma needed the services of a dentist -- surely one of civilization's great boons -- during the time when they were frozen in. Agnew is at her driest and wittiest when she describes the reaction of her sodbusting ''sisters,'' in particular, to the hygienic arrangements and then to the knotty question of natural childbirth. More than one agreed to have a baby on a kitchen table before getting pregnant again and heading as fast as possible back to town for ''serious numbing drugs.'' If you look back to the founding document of the 60's left, which was the Port Huron statement (also promulgated in Michigan), you will easily see that it was in essence a conservative manifesto. It spoke in vaguely Marxist terms of alienation, true, but it was reacting to bigness and anonymity and urbanization, and it betrayed a yearning for a lost agrarian simplicity. It forgot what Marx had said, about the dynamism of capitalism and ''the idiocy of rural life.'' Earlier 18th- and 19th-century American communards had often been fleeing or preparing for a coming Apocalypse, and their emulators in the 1960's and 1970's followed this trope as well, believing everything they read about the impending crash, or the exhaustion of the world's resources. The crazy lean-to of the Unabomber began to take dim shape at that period, even if many of the new pioneers were more affected by the work of the pacific Tolstoy or of C. Wright Mills (who used to recommend, if memory serves, that people should build their own cars as well as their own houses). Is there a moral to point out here? Of course there is. Maybe more than one. The first is that, as Agnew deftly notes, more of her friends ought to have read about the Joad family before setting out. The second is that not all was wasted or futile. Everybody in society now has a better idea of our relationship with the natural order and our kinship with animals, and we are no longer so casual about what once seemed the endless bounty of our environment. In some ways, we have the ''love generation'' to thank for this. Meanwhile, though, the anti-globalization movement has started to reject modernity altogether, to set its sights on laboratories and on the idea of the division of labor, and to adopt symbols from Fallujah as the emblems of its resistance. Conservatism cannot and does not, despite itself, remain static. It mutates into something far more reactionary than anything from which the hippies were ever fleeing. Christopher Hitchens is a columnist for Vanity Fair and a visiting professor at New School University. His collection of essays, ''Love, Poverty and War,'' has just been published. -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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[Antisocial] Sept. 11 Conspiracy Theorist Offers $100,000 Prize (fwd)
by J.A. Terranson 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

Thursday, Dec. 16, 2004 Sept. 11 Conspiracy Theorist Offers $100,000 Prize NEW YORK (Reuters) - Jimmy Walter has spent more than $3 million promoting a conspiracy theory the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States were "an inside job" and he is offering more cash to anyone who proves him wrong. The millionaire activist is so convinced of a government cover-up he is offering a $100,000 reward to any engineering student who can prove the World Trade Center buildings crashed the way the government says. "Of course, we expect no winners," Walter, 57, heir to an $11 million fortune from his father's home building business, said in a telephone interview from California on Wednesday. He said a panel of expert engineers would judge submissions from the students. Next month, he also launches a nationwide contest seeking alternative theories from college and high school students about why New York's World Trade Center collapsed. The contest offers $10,000 to the best alternative theory, with 100 runner-up awards of $1,000. Winners will be chosen next June. The World Trade Center's twin towers were destroyed after hijackers slammed two commercial airliners into them. The attack in New York killed 2,749 people. Various official investigations give no credence to Walter's theory. A Sept. 11 commission spokesman did not return calls seeking comment. Walter insists there had to be explosives planted in the twin towers to cause them to fall as they did, and also rejects the official explanation for the damage done at the Pentagon. "We have all the proof," said Walter, citing videotapes and testimony from witnesses. "It wasn't 19 screw-ups from Saudi Arabia who couldn't pass flight school who defeated the United States with a set of box cutters," he said. He dismissed the official Sept. 11 commission report, saying, "I don't trust any of these 'facts."' Walter has spent millions of dollars to bolster support for his case, running full-page ads in The New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, The New Yorker and Newsweek, as well as alternative newspapers and 30-second TV spots. He points to a Zogby poll he commissioned last summer that showed 66 percent of New Yorkers wanted the 9/11 investigation reopened. Walter has spent about 30 percent of his net worth on his efforts. "I am a patriot fighting the real traitors who are destroying our democracy. I resent it when they call me delusional," he said.

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Re: Gait advances in emerging biometrics
by Major Variola (ret) 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

At 12:48 PM 12/17/04 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: >(Also, politics isn't about people on the Net. It's about people marching in >the >streets). And RPGs. Lots and lots of RPGs. And MANPADS.

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Re: pgp "global directory" bugged instructions
by Jon Callas 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

Thanks for the bug report. We appreciate your help in fine-tuning the language in the verification emails of the beta test of the PGP Global Directory. We noticed this one, ourselves, and put out an improvement to it on Tuesday. Please check it over and see what you think of the improved version. If you would like to send bug reports to us directly, please feel free to send them to beta(a)pgp.com. Cypherpunks and Cryptography are both inefficient ways to get them to us, as Cryptography waits for Perry to approve the post, and Cypherpunks waits for Bob Hettinga to forward it. However, the Global Directory does not consolidate information from any other keyservers. It is a replacement for the old keyserver, keyserver.pgp.com, and will take over that venerable old server's job once beta test is concluded. We are, however, migrating a number of keys from the old keyserver to that one. Think of the new keyserver as a mix between traditional keyservers, mailing list servers like mailman, and a robot CA. Its intent is to improve upon the older keyservers by giving some modicum of assurance that keys in it belong to someone, as well as allowing someones to recover from forgetting their passphrase. Jon On 16 Dec 2004, at 7:13 AM, R.A. Hettinga wrote: > > --- begin forwarded text > > > Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:50:22 -0500 > From: Adam Back <adam(a)cypherspace.org> > To: Cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)minder.net> > Cc: Cryptography <cryptography(a)metzdowd.com> > Subject: pgp "global directory" bugged instructions > User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i > Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)al-qaeda.net > > So PGP are now running a pgp key server which attempts to consilidate > the inforamtion from the existing key servers, but screen it by > ability to receive email at the address. > > So they send you an email with a link in it and you go there and it > displays your key userid, keyid, fingerprint and email address. > > Then it says: > > | Please verify that the email address on this key, adam(a)hashcash.org, > | is your email address, and is properly configured to send and > | receive PGP secured email. > | > | If the information is correct, click 'Accept'. By clicking 'Accept', > | your key will be published to the directory, where other PGP users > | will be able to retrieve it in order to encrypt messages to you and > | verify signed messages from you. > | > | If this information is incorrect, click 'Cancel'. By clicking > | 'Cancel', this key will not be published. You may then submit > | another key with the correct information. > > So here's the problem: it does not mention anything about checking > that this is your fingerprint. If it's not your fingerprint but it is > your email address you could end up DoSing yourself, or at least > perpetuating a imposter key into the new supposedly email validated > keyserver db. > > (For example on some key servers there are keys with my name and email > that are nothing to do with me -- they are pure forgeries). > > Suggest they add something to say in red letters check the fingerprint > AND keyid matches your key. > > Adam > > --- end forwarded text > > > -- > ----------------- > R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> > The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> > 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA > "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, > [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to > experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' > -- Jon Callas CTO, CSO PGP Corporation Tel: +1 (650) 319-9016 3460 West Bayshore Fax: +1 (650) 319-9001 Palo Alto, CA 94303 PGP: ed15 5bdf cd41 adfc 00f3 USA 28b6 52bf 5a46 bc98 e63d -- Jon Callas CTO, CSO PGP Corporation Tel: +1 (650) 319-9016 3460 West Bayshore Fax: +1 (650) 319-9001 Palo Alto, CA 94303 PGP: ed15 5bdf cd41 adfc 00f3 USA 28b6 52bf 5a46 bc98 e63d ________________________________________________________________ This message could have been secured by PGP Universal. To secure future messages from this sender, please click this link: https://keys.pgp.com/b/b.e?r=cypherpunks%40minder.net&n=NsqztWUvWFO%2Be83dn…

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Report: Govt secrecy hurting warfighters
by R.A. Hettinga 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

<http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20041215-075709-5911r> United Press International: Report: Govt secrecy hurting warfighters By Shaun Waterman UPI Homeland and National Security Editor Published 12/15/2004 8:19 PM WASHINGTON, Dec. 15 (UPI) -- The current system for protecting government information is outdated, almost unworkable and makes the "information flow to the war fighter ... excessively constricted," according to a report prepared for the Department of Defense by a secretive scientific advisory panel. The panel, known as the Jason Group, reviewed the system used to classify sensitive government information at the request of the Office of Defense Research and Engineering in the Pentagon. The group concluded that the classification system is so unwieldy -- especially in battlefield situations -- that it is often bypassed altogether by frustrated military personnel and "ought to be radically changed." "Users," the report stated, "see an overly rigid, out of date, bureaucratic structure of information classification ... and an individual clearance process that is glacially slow, and under which large numbers of fighting men and women are, in practical terms, unclearable." As a result, the report said, "under-classification of documents -- often quietly justified as necessary for ease in transporting documents between meeting sites -- is a well known practice." For example, the report said that imagery from the top-secret Predator unmanned aerial reconnaissance vehicle is unclassified, with troops relying on "an ad hoc system of operational practices" to protect it. "The current situation of out of date or operationally unimplementable rules, combined with widespread violation of those rules, is a bad place to be," concludes the report, a copy of which was obtained by United Press International from the Federation of American Scientist's Project on Government Secrecy. J. William Leonard, the federal government's secrecy watchdog, agreed in broad terms with the report's critique. "I drawn a vast distinction between the tactical military environment and the bureaucracy here in Washington," Leonard, who runs the Information Security Oversight Office, told UPI. "Under certain circumstances," like an imminent threat of terrorism, or on the battlefield, "there can be greater damage caused by classifying and not sharing information." Leonard said that amendments to the classification system after Sept. 11, 2001, had given more flexibility to agencies to share classified information -- even with people not authorized to see it -- under such emergency circumstances. Even in day-to-day operations, he said, "The system provides a degree of flexibility to agencies. But," he added, "there is very little realization of this. I'm concerned that not enough use is made of this flexibility." But the report pointed out that this flexibility is very hard to calibrate. "In the present system there is no way to turn up or down the knob that governs the tradeoff between security and operational needs. There is no way, in time of war or in a particular area of operations, to 'moderately increase' all players' access to secret information ... there are too few steps between highly secret and totally open," it stated. The report pointed out that the current system was devised in the 1940s and has remained basically unchanged since, despite the enormous revolution in information wrought by the advent of personal computers and the Internet. "The classification system is a product of the industrial age, not the information age we live in now," Leonard said. "It is a document-centered system," Leonard continued. "We need a new framework for guarding national security information that is more suited to the information age and accounts for the huge changes there have been in the last 60 years." The Jason Group report concluded with a call for just such a system, one based on transactional risk -- that is the chance that any given transaction will be compromised, rather than on assigning a level of classification to a document based on the potential damage caused by disclosure. "It is obvious that the one-time display of a classified document on a (secure) computer terminal to a (cleared) individual -- which we can call 'soft access' -- is inherently less risky than providing that same individual with a paper copy of the same document -- 'hard access.'" But Leonard pointed out that the current government rules only tell agencies what they can classify, not what they must keep secret. Each government agency uses the rules as the basis for its own classification guidance. "A lot of the concepts and recommendations of the report could be implemented to some extent under the current system, if agencies issued new classification guidance that took more account of the changed circumstances we now find," he said. Such calls may fall on more fertile ground than they have in the past. Porter Goss, now the director of the central intelligence and the man charged with managing the whole classification system, told UPI last year that over-classification was a persistent problem in U.S. intelligence agencies. "The problem is, it's a ratchet," he said. "It only turns one way. There are very serious consequences for failure to classify sensitive information. There tend to be no adverse consequences -- at least not to someone's career -- of classifying something that doesn't need to be classified." The Jason Group report is the latest in a series of recent critiques of the classification system, but the first to identify under-classification as a problem. Most previous critiques have focused on the reverse problem. For instance, the Sept. 11 commission found in its final report that "current security requirements nurture over-classification" -- making documents secret when they do not really need to be -- and found that, in turn, to be a barrier to the information sharing between agencies and with local law enforcement that is vital to the fight against terrorism. The commission's Chairman Tom Kean, the former GOP governor of New Jersey, has said that one of the great surprises of the unprecedented access he and his fellow commissioners were given to highly classified government documents was finding out how much of it he already knew from reading the newspapers. In a similar vein, the official in charge of information security at the Pentagon told a congressional panel Aug. 24 that at least half of the information the U.S. government classifies every year should not be kept secret. Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Counter Intelligence and Security Carol Haave testified before a House panel led by Rep. Chris Shays, R-Conn. Shays called the system for safeguarding the nation's secrets "incomprehensibly complex" and "so bloated it often does not distinguish between the critically important and the comically irrelevant." The panel heard examples of information that was classified by one agency, then released by another; information that was redacted from one part of a document by an agency, but published in another part of the same document; and information that an agency insisted should be classified until it was pointed out it was available on the agency's own Web site. -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Get the mads you need now fast shjppijng! tape
by Millicent Broussard 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

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Re: Gait advances in emerging biometrics
by Major Variola (ret) 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

At 12:28 PM 12/16/04 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: > >Anyone who owns that infrastructure is even more dangerous than who 0wns the >voting machines. Very nice quote. Can I get an insurance policy on you, with me as beneficiary?

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pgp "global directory" bugged instructions
by Adam Back 16 Dec '04

16 Dec '04

So PGP are now running a pgp key server which attempts to consilidate the inforamtion from the existing key servers, but screen it by ability to receive email at the address. So they send you an email with a link in it and you go there and it displays your key userid, keyid, fingerprint and email address. Then it says: | Please verify that the email address on this key, adam(a)hashcash.org, | is your email address, and is properly configured to send and | receive PGP secured email. | | If the information is correct, click 'Accept'. By clicking 'Accept', | your key will be published to the directory, where other PGP users | will be able to retrieve it in order to encrypt messages to you and | verify signed messages from you. | | If this information is incorrect, click 'Cancel'. By clicking | 'Cancel', this key will not be published. You may then submit | another key with the correct information. So here's the problem: it does not mention anything about checking that this is your fingerprint. If it's not your fingerprint but it is your email address you could end up DoSing yourself, or at least perpetuating a imposter key into the new supposedly email validated keyserver db. (For example on some key servers there are keys with my name and email that are nothing to do with me -- they are pure forgeries). Suggest they add something to say in red letters check the fingerprint AND keyid matches your key. Adam

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USPS Service Kiosks Taking Pictures of Customers
by Eugen Leitl 16 Dec '04

16 Dec '04

Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/16/1418246 Posted by: michael, on 2004-12-16 15:11:00 from the say-cheese dept. [1]NW writes "According to [2]FOIA documents obtained by EPIC new Postal Service self-service postage machines take portrait-style photographs of customers and retain them for 30 days." IBM is the [3]contractor behind the kiosks. Note that the kiosk is supposed to not complete the transaction if it determines the photograph has been compromised, so simply covering the camera is unlikely to work. As the cost of cameras and digital storage approaches zero, is it inevitable that every machine you interact with will take your photograph and store it? [4]Click Here References 1. http://www.shaftek.org/blog/ 2. http://www.epic.org/privacy/postal/ 3. http://www-1.ibm.com/kiosk/government.html 4. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5717&alloc_id=12468&site_id=1&request_id=5057586… p=click&page=%2farticle%2epl ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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