January 2004 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: new CDR node?
by Eric Murray 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 04:27:08AM -0500, An Metet wrote: > On Monday, 12 Jan 2004 at 15:47, Riad S. Wahby <rsw(a)jfet.org> wrote: > > I'm thinking of setting up a new CDR node much like LNE's. Current > > CDR operators, would you email me off-list so we can discuss adding me > > to the backbone and arrange to transfer user lists so that I can limit > > posting to subscribers (and of course known anonymous entry points). > > Create your own white list. Include your own subscribers. Inspect rejects > and add any valid emails' addresses. That means that more posts from list members languish awaiting forwarding. Eric

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Re: US Finally Kills The 2nd Ammendment
by Major Variola (ret) 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

At 01:28 PM 1/13/04 -0800, Steve Schear wrote: >It would seem that once GNURadio comes to fruition that many devices, >including those the FCC would like to regulate, could be built from its >generic, non-video, architecture. In that case, wouldn't FCC mandates >applied to end-users (since end users will be the only ones who will >configure the SW, FW and HW for an application the FCC would like to >regulate, be a 3rd Amend. issue? The FCC could consider the GNUser to be a "manufacturer", just like the ATF does if you change the sear on your semiauto rifle or trim the stock and barrel too much.. While they don't have the black flak jacket penache of the ATF thugs, the FCC does enforce things if you play on the wrong bands. Reception, of course, is a little harder to monitor :-)

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spoofing Tomboy Ridge
by Major Variola (ret) 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

At 12:21 PM 1/12/04 -0500, Nostradumbass(a)SAFe-mail.net wrote: >>There was a mildly publicized incident in another part of Brooklyn >recently where someone was ticketed after their child's balloon popped >in public. I recently asked a NYC friend if he had popped off firecrackers in NY Square recently. He hadn't, spoilsport.

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new CDR node?
by Riad S. Wahby 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

I'm thinking of setting up a new CDR node much like LNE's. Current CDR operators, would you email me off-list so we can discuss adding me to the backbone and arrange to transfer user lists so that I can limit posting to subscribers (and of course known anonymous entry points). Sorry for not emailing y'all individually, but I don't really know which nodes are still alive (there seems to be some question about that in general) and thought I'd get better results this way. Cool. -- Riad Wahby rsw(a)jfet.org MIT VI-2 M.Eng

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Hello BGT
by Major Variola (ret) 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

At 12:55 PM 1/12/04 -0600, bgt wrote: >Of course the police tried to take the site down but the court >upheld the site's right to publish any publicly available >information about the cops (I believe they excepted the SSN's). > >--bgt The SSNs were initially published, later removed in an incremental withdrawl, as I recall. ....... I think people have not quite gotten their hands around the speed at which information can be disseminated online. -Monica Lewinsky, LATimes 9 may 01 http://www.latimes.com/business/columns/celebsetup/lat_monica010510.htm

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Inviting the vampires into the house
by Tim May 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

By the way, something else from that ACLU site I cited (and sighted): --begin excerpt-- IN YOUR HOME 1. If the police knock and ask to enter your home, you don't have to admit them unless they have a warrant signed by a judge. 2. However, in some emergency situations (like when a person is screaming for help inside, or when the police are chasing someone) officers are allowed to enter and search your home without a warrant. 3. If you are arrested, the police can search you and the area close by. If you are in a building, "close by" usually means just the room you are in. --end excerpt-- This is why one should _never_ invite cops into a house, even for a chat. They may use nearly any grounds to make an "arrest" (again, arrest does not necessarily mean a booking, or a formal charging, just an arrest of one's freedom to move about or leave). Once an arrest has been made, they may then search the premises (as above) based on this arrest. And anything they see in other areas "in plain sight," such as bottles of pills or a rifle case, etc., may be used to expand the search. I've also heard it reported that it is _easier_ for cops to arrest a person if he steps _outside_ his house. Not sure why, but it may have to do with some reptilian brain memory of "a man's home is his castle" or even to court precedent related to the above example. In other words, arresting a person in his home opens the home up to warrantless searches "so avoid this if possible." It seems to me the ideal balance is then this: -- if cops knock and one decides to answer the door rather than hole up or shoot it out, then: -- talk to them from inside the home -- don't invite them in -- and don't step out -- keep them on the outside and oneself on the inside Of course, answering the door and, after hearing what their business is (it might be something unrelated to one's own legal status, such as a warning about an impending flood, etc.), one can and probably _should_ say "I have nothing to say to you." Then they can make the next move, either escalating things to an arrest or presenting a duly-signed search warrant (which one can check...and my idea of "checking" would mean closing my door and calling the court house to verify that the named judge did in fact sign a warrant for my address....this is what "duly signed" can only mean, that the presentee gets to check it). (I would never say "Talk to my lawyer" for two reasons. First, I don't keep a lawyer on retainer or even know the name of one. Second, lawyers bill by the quarter hour...I recall in the case of a probate matter I was involved in, that merely phoning the lawyer to ask a simple question showed up as a $75 charge on his probate fee bill. And this guy was just a probate lawyer shlub, not even a highly paid Jew criminal lawyer! There is no way I will let a nosy cop run up a tab with some shyster.) --Tim May "The State is the great fiction by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else." --Frederic Bastiat

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Arrest and Identification
by Tim May 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

Reminder about talking to cops, being stopped and held by cops, being told to produce ID, etc. As there's much of the old chatter here about these issues, I dug up the ACLU card that is recommended to be carried by all persons. Or read and understood. Here's a Web version. A PDF version for efficient printing is also available: <http://archive.aclu.org/issues/criminal/bustcardtext.html> A couple of paragraphs relevant to the current discussion about whether being stopped for question is "arrest," whether ID is required to be carried, etc.: --begin excerpt 2. You don't have to answer a police officer's questions, but you must show your driver's license and registration when stopped in a car. In other situations, you can't legally be arrested for refusing to identify yourself to a police officer. 3. You don't have to consent to any search of yourself, your car or your house. If you DO consent to a search, it can affect your rights later in court. If the police say they have a search warrant, ASK TO SEE IT. 4. Do not interfere with, or obstruct the police -- you can be arrested for it. IF YOU ARE STOPPED FOR QUESTIONING 1. It's not a crime to refuse to answer questions, but refusing to answer can make the police suspicious about you. You can't be arrested merely for refusing to identify yourself on the street. 2. Police may "pat-down" your clothing if they suspect a concealed weapon. Don't physically resist, but make it clear that you don't consent to any further search. 3. Ask if you are under arrest. If you are, you have a right to know why. --end excerpt-- --Tim May "'I'm sorry that Tim is being a bother again. He has a long history of being obnoxious and threatening. So far, he has not broken any laws. We have talked to the authorities about him on numerous occasions. They have chosen to watch but not act. Please feel free to notify me f he does anything that is beyond rude and actually violates any laws and I will immediately inform the authorities. Thank You Don Fredrickson

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Ontario, Canada's Largest Marijuana Growing Operation -- Molson Brewery, Barrie, Ontario
by Tim Meehan 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

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Re: US Finally Kills The 2nd Ammendment
by Nostradumbass＠SAFe-mail.net 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

At 03:20 PM 1/11/2004, Jamie Lawrence wrote: >A client/friend recently spent 9 hours in jail for failure to carry a wallet. He was doing something mildly suspicious, but not illegal. NYC has a very entrenched industry dealing with "processing" people the cops pick up. This has only gotten worse since Bloomberg and his "quality of life" racket. Breathing Without ID is essentially a crime that costs a day of your life, not less than ~$200, and a lot of humiliation. I thought the San Francisco cops were bad, before I moved here. (My friend was even told by the cops what to expect, and how best to optimize for getting out quickly. Kafka would have trouble doing better.) >There was a mildly publicized incident in another part of Brooklyn recently where someone was ticketed after their child's balloon popped in public. A noise infraction. Quality of live, indeed. "There are no quotas, but if you don't meet them, you're on report." This is one of the 'applications' for Zombie Patriots. Set up those practicing tyranny under color of the law for a quick trip to the coroner. Bring the fun of Hammas to New York. "How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive?" --Alexander Solzhenitzyn, Gulag Archipelago

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Cypherpunks List Info
by cpunk＠lne.com 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

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