September 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

"Quicksilver": It's about time...
by R. A. Hettinga 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

<http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/PrintStory.pl?document_id=20017290…> Monday, September 15, 2003, 12:00 A.M. Pacific <snip> It's about time: So what upcoming product launch are geeks most excited about? Not the new version of Microsoft Office. It's probably fine. But techdom is really champing at the bit for the Sept. 23 release of "Quicksilver," the latest book from Seattle author Neal Stephenson, who has been described as the hacker Hemingway. "Quicksilver" is the long-awaited follow-up to Stephenson's 1999 bestseller "Cryptonomicon," which ranged through the genesis of computers, World War II cryptography and modern Web privacy and security issues. Among Quicksilver's characters is a brilliant scientist and contemporary of Isaac Newton. -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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GPG Sig test
by Mark Renouf 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

Can someone verify this message? Someone told me that my signatures were coming up invalide for some reason. I just created a new key recently (old one expired months ago). I just uploaded it to keyserver.pgp.net Thanks! -- Mark Renouf <mark(a)tweakt.net> [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]

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Police state
by Major Variola (ret.) 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

Good article at http://wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,60440,00.html on abuses of anti-terrorism (tm) laws. ----- The unit of coercivity for magstrips is being changed to the "Ashcroft"

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Police state
by Major Variola (ret.) 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

Good article at http://wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,60440,00.html on abuses of anti-terrorism (tm) laws. ----- The unit of coercivity for magstrips is being changed to the "Ashcroft"

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snooping cell phone pictures via URLs?
by Major Variola (ret) 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

I received a few URLs pointing to cell phone pictures stored at pictures.sprintpcs.com. The URLs contained long seemingly-random strings, though with my sample (of 2) I only saw 5 identical characters in the same locations. Has anyone done any less casual cryptanalysis on these kind of URLs? One wonders how much protection from (non-sprintpcs.com and ISP) snoopers that the "random" strings actually provide. ---- A fool and their bits are soon mirrored worldwide.

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Re: Wired misquote [Symantec want's to criminalize full-disclosure] (fwd from alfred_huger@symantec.com)
by Eugen Leitl 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

----- Forwarded message from Alfred Huger <alfred_huger(a)symantec.com> -----

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Killing the persecutors of "Extreme Associates"
by Anonymous 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

Prosecutors, U.S. Attorneys and Attorneys General who seek to throw people in prison for half a century for the "crime" of producing a porn movie with the "wrong" type of storyline all need to be gang-raped to the theme of _The O'Reilly Factor_ by large-penised men, before having themselves, their families and their children doused with jet fuel and burned alive, September 11th style. "'Shall make no law' means _NO LAW_. Got it, bitch?" If not, perhaps somebody should take a Sharpie, use it to write out the relevant text of the First Amendment on a piece of plain white paper, affix it to a baseball bat with tape or another suitable adhesive, and then smash aforementioned baseball bat over the heads of these U.S. Attorneys and high- ranking "Justice" Department officials until they either get the idea, or get their skulls crushed to such a degree that bloodied brain tissue ends up splattered all over the walls of their offices. Robert Zicari and Janet Romano should seriously consider putting out contracts on the heads of some Feds.

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Cypherpunks List Info
by cpunk＠lne.com 14 Sep '03

14 Sep '03

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Wall Street Protest
by Tyler Durden 14 Sep '03

14 Sep '03

Walked by an interesting protest outside the stock exchange last week. In the "pen" in front were probably no more than 600 people attending a protest against the well-named "Patriot Act", and against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their policies. WHat was interesting was that, despite the relatively small numbers (I've seen crowds 5 times that size allowed for other stuff), police were not letting anyone into the area without an ID of some kind....I heard them saying there was already "too many people there". (And by "area" I mean from Broadway east, one block north of Wall South, and I don't know where the other borders were...I'd bet someone who knew the area could probably find a route in, but you'd have to get up through those wierd SE streets like "Beaver" and so on. A form of censorship? Definitely...like I've said...I've seen LOTS more people allowed for other stuff (even Nader). There was plenty of room even in the pen (Broad Street has been closed in front of the stock exchange since 9/11/01...there's a series of barracades.) Now obviously, the "authorities" would probably claim (if push came to shove) that this particular group posed a greater risk than other groups. (Or in NYC, depending on who was asking, they'd probably cite some specific laws that pointed to their right to 'cap' the event at the levels it was attended at at the time, and deny this group was being given special treatment.) Anyone see this on the news? I don't remember any major news trucks out there...I wonder if their quote somehow excluded them also, assuming they'd be interested (and they might be, if the numbers were much larger). So...an interesting strategy: A big anti-government rally is planned. Cops show up early and deliberately make large numbers impossible. News folks (already pre-disposed not to cover such an event) find even more reason not to be interested given the small numbers. Sheeple continue to watch TV and see no coverage of dissent, and assume there is no dissent. Sheeple, assuming everyone else supports the war, now support the war. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es

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Cypherpunks in jail or prison
by netkita＠earthlink.net 14 Sep '03

14 Sep '03

To date how many members of the Cypherpunks mailing list are in the can so to speak and what are the category of offenses that the government wishes to blame them with? What are the dates or at least the years that they were arrested? Thanks in Advance, Deirdre

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