December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Encryption Workshop
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On June 10, BXA will present an Encryption Workshop at the Westin Santa Clara, in Santa Clara, California. The half-day program will highlight the current U.S. policy on encryption and will include discussion of the main elements of the interim rule published December 30, 1996, including license exception KMI and the licensing process. The program will also address upcoming revisions based on the Administration's initiative to promote the use of strong encryption by U.S. banks and financial institutions and their subsidiaries overseas. For registration information, please contact: Carol Truhe with the Professional Association for Exporters and Importers at (408) 524-2135 or by fax at (408) 524-2023.

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With friends like these...
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just read www.crypto.com/key_study. I was not impressed. In fact, one thing worries me a lot. I think the report basicly sells us out. The authors, Hal Abelson [1], Ross Anderson [2], Steven M. Bellovin [3], Josh Benaloh [4], Matt Blaze [5], Whitfield Diffie [6], John Censor Gilmore [7], Peter G. Neumann [8], Ronald L. Rivest [9], Jeffrey I. Schiller [10], Bruce Schneier [11], include many "respected" "experts". Some of them, like Blaze and Diffie and Schneier, are people who act like they're on our side. But... Benaloh works for microsoft and Rivest for Bidzos. Two from AT&T. One from HP. One from Sun. The influence of big money was clear. They want what's good for the big companies. The report endorses pro-code/safe, which effectively criminalizes the use of crypto and would outlaw remailers. It's true that they say key recovery is a bad idea (not that it's unacceptable, however, just a bad idea, not nearly as strong as it could be). The reason they give is that they think it may be too expensive for corporate America. What they don't say is Far more interesting: They don't say that key escrow is unacceptable, period. They don't mention the big brother problem. They don't talk about the long history of government abuse (FBI, CIA, NSA, etc). The conveniently leave out ALL the libertarian issues about how key escrow making the government bigger and more powerful. They just seem to care about what it costs. And these are our friends? Now lets look at who benefits from this point of view. Criminalize crypto, outlaw remailers, no expensive key escrow. It SOUNDS good, at least a small gain, but this gives them a real tool AGAINST us. They can come after crypto users for the first time. Who benefits? BIG companies. NOT CYPHERPUNK GOALS. By not mentioning it, I think these guys have sold out. They may not realize it themselves, but the effect is just as bad (maybe worse). CDT which brought us the CALEA and the CDA, funded the study. They no doubt were able to influence the content to get rid of the "unacceptable" stuff. We should be asking who our friends are here. I think if these guys really wanted to be effective, they could take more of a real stand, with some real risks. Have ANY of these guys ever written code to promote strong crypto? Schneier wrote a book, but, charges for his services. I don't think they have been "bought" or are working for the other side, I just think we should be realistic about who the "experts" are really working for - their own pockets and their big employers. KEY ESCROW IS UNACCEPTABLE, PERIOD. No matter what the cost. No matter how safe. No matter what. I think we should respectfully ask them to clarify where they stand. Mr experts, <hal(a)mit.edu> <ross.anderson(a)cl.cam.ac.uk> <smb(a)research.att.com> <benaloh(a)microsoft.com> <mab(a)research.att.com> <diffie(a)eng.sun.com> <gnu(a)toad.com> <neumann(a)sri.com> <rivest(a)lcs.mit.edu> <jis(a)mit.edu> <schneier(a)counterpane.com> Do you stand for the criminalization of crypto? Is there anything wrong with key escrow other than the cost? Why is your report so weak?

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Re: [ADMINISTRATIVIUM] Quadratic residues
by The Spectre 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Mon Jun 09 15:38:35 1997 > On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, Anonymous wrote: > > I think Vulis needs each of us to send ten copies of this back to him. > [...] I think I'm sending *you* ten copies of this. -=Start Signature=- Goth.Code 3.1 GoCS5$ TAnFe P! B7/17Bk#1 cBk(Lb)-s6 V6s M3p1wgD ZGoPuoMehFon!! C9oc A20+(24) n5 b54 H185 g6!??94A m@Z4? w6T v1h r7EISP p1Z565Hm D26 h5(R) sM10M SsYw k6B N1286JONEH RzM LusNY3 -=http://www.nac.net/~users/spectre=- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBM5xbwqAC4xvMjGa1AQGGrwf/RFxPyCB1MGB+QLUi2cRxZW52X9MBcVr2 dlZd6BZxvbDy5uo8FCbQly4vLG35N/P08SeeCrtnuXjPc9rb/RF38O/rtwSRqFDy sbgtrrFaTwOyOruOAGbuXllHCStYYC0GHYESAoJOXi8vxdMHk0kxZXuWgnAO2uwh c2ON2Jv1f9YmybGrClZ0CaFybWKOG6r3m31QLOJUZqOWZbErRTYOlDM7//09x/ZZ ZA6XCUgLDPPNfm6PSaJmqBeEkgqQC3I0q6uslYi+43u14mXTCa/ddxUG0crMAUb2 F6MyRlD2FjaalVcH69me9VIfJPybbW/o3MbJ7RkNDVAvCNfCg0wenw== =M57W -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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No Subject
by C.Laffra 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, My records indicate that we exchanged email in the last three years. I sincerely apologize if this email is mis-directed. This is to inform you of my new address: Chris Laffra, Ph.D. Research Staff Member Java Tools Group Computer Science Department Research Division IBM T.J. Watson Research Center P.O. Box 704 Yorktown Heights, NY 10598 Tel: (914) 784 7525 Fax: (914) 784 6576 email: laffra(a)watson.ibm.com web: www.research.ibm.com/people/l/laffra (soon to be actived) email: laffra(a)aol.com web: members.aol.com/laffra Chris.

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Law Enforcement Types Summary
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

JUST A RECAP OF HOW OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM WORKS The LAPD, The FBI, and the CIA are all trying to prove that they are the best at apprehending criminals. The President decides to give them a test. He releases a rabbit into a forest and each of them has to catch it. The CIA goes in. They place animal informants throughout the forest. They question all plant and mineral witnesses. After three months of extensive investigations they conclude that rabbits do not exist. The FBI goes in. After two weeks with no leads they burn the forest, killing everything in it, including the rabbit, and make no apologies. The rabbit had it coming. The LAPD goes in. They come out two hours later with a badly beaten bear. The bear is yelling: "Okay! Okay! I'm a rabbit! I'm a rabbit! Case closed.

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WSJ on Money Laundering
by Alan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Check out the latest (June 9th, 1997) Wall Street Journal. On page B1 there is an article on the wave of money laundering convictions for non-drug related crimes. In fact, the article points out that just about any monetary transaction can be declared money laundering. (And get upheld in court!) And the reasons behind this? Long terms and lots of ready cash for the feds. "Property Seizure: It's not just for drug crimes anymore!" alano(a)teleport.com | "Those who are without history are doomed to retype it."

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blue, blue, 'lectric blue
by cypherpunks＠Algebra.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Blue Lister's Nuked! Blue Lister's Nuked! First round's on Ian. Second round we puked! http://nethomes.com/lectric

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Re: FCPUNX:My War
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:13 PM 6/8/97 -0700, se7en wrote: > [about child pornography on the internet] > It is disgustingly real. It is so real it will make you > want to throw up, and I actually, physically did throw up last night. > > Second, in reference to previous conversation over the years on this list, > and in the hacking community in general, I know this type of activity is > not tolerated by us. You are no hacker: You appear to be Rich Graves. Furthermore this activity is tolerated by us. And as usual you are discovering and publicising all sorts of good reasons why the government should supervise us, while piously declaring you are opposed to any such supervision. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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privacy discussion on today's TOTN
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

NPR's Talk of the Nation, today at 14:00 EDT, will discuss privacy issues. +------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Carl M. Ellison cme(a)cybercash.com http://www.clark.net/pub/cme | |CyberCash, Inc. http://www.cybercash.com/ | |207 Grindall Street PGP 2.6.2: 61E2DE7FCB9D7984E9C8048BA63221A2 | |Baltimore MD 21230-4103 T:(410) 727-4288 F:(410)727-4293 | +------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Doc Offerings
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We offer: A Federal Register notice today of an upcoming Technology Administration "Public Forum on Certificate Authorities and Digital Signatures": http://jya.com/ta060997.txt The recent Denver ruling of $350K damages against the IRS for disclosing confidential tax payer information: http://jya.com/wardvusa.htm (48K) NIST's latest package on the Key Recovery Demonstration Plan of a test run among 10 federal agencies, including a May 29 solicitation: http://jya.com/krdp.htm (37K) And, the quite instructive 1994 Department of Justice "Federal Guidelines for Searching and Seizing Computers": http://jya.com/doj-search.htm (376K)

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