December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: I am anti war. Yawn.
by Major Variola (ret) 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

At 05:41 PM 12/20/03 -0800, James A. Donald wrote: > >Anyone who wants to argue that the guys in the two towers had >it coming, "Collateral damage". The workers at say a WWII refinery did not directly do evil to anyone. Still, they were killed, because of where they were. Bummer, eh? Sleep with dogs.. Better put some ice on that, bub.

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Mitnick wants war stories
by Tim Meehan 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

This sounds like a very interesting project! -Tim http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39118685,00.htm Mitnick calls for hackers' war stories Patrick Gray ZDNet Australia December 19, 2003, 10:40 GMT Notorious hacker Kevin Mitnick is collating tales of hackers' 'art' into a book Famed hacker and master social engineer Kevin Mitnick has been commissioned to write a new book following the success of his first text The Art of Deception. The new book, tentatively titled The Art of Intrusion will tell the stories of real hacks, with the names of attackers obscured to protect them from the authorities and their victims. Mitnick has called on retired hackers to come forward with their stories, offering a $500 (#283) prize for the best story that makes it into the book, and a $200 payment for all stories that make the final draft. "I'm going to tell the true stories of some of the untold most salacious hacks in cyberspace. The sexy, the ingenious, the innovative and the clever," he told ZDNet Australia by phone from the US "The stories are not going to be the same attack vector or the same class of vulnerability. I'm looking for stories that will include a variety of attack methods exploiting physical, operational, network host, and personnel security vulnerabilities." Fame found Kevin Mitnick when the US government made an example of him, incarcerating him for five years for computer based offences. Four of his years inside were served before he was even tried, and he was forced to endure eight months in solitary confinement because "the government said I could start a nuclear war if I had access to a telephone," Mitnick says. In trouble with the law for technological mischief since 1982, Mitnick became a fugitive in January 1993 when he skipped town after authorities sought to question him about a possible parole violation. During that time he used various aliases, including Eric Weiss -- Harry Houdini's real name -- and worked several jobs, including a stint as a systems administrator at a law firm. He was captured in 1995 by the FBI after two years on the run. The hunt for Mitnick and his subsequent capture were dramatised in the novel Takedown, which was subsequently turned into a movie of the same name. The book was written by Mitnick's rival and security professional Tsutomu Shimomura, and co-authored by New York Times journalist John Markoff. Shimomura assisted the FBI in tracking Mitnick, who launched a scathing attack on the Takedown account of events in a chapter of his last book that was never published. Mitnick was released from custody into supervised release in early 2000. The conditions of his release meant he was not allowed to use a computer. When it came time to write his book, however, the government was flexible. "The government had given me permission to obtain a computer prior to my supervised release expiring. I wasn't permitted to use the Internet but I did use a computer to do the last book. It was more difficult... I had to actually send a floppy disk to my co-author, that's how we traded material -- by physical postal mail," Mitnick explained. "But now these restrictions have been lifted I think it's really going to increase our productivity now we can use this marvellous thing called email." The terms of Mitnick's supervised release were lifted in January this year. As well as being able to use the Internet again, Mitnick has been able to leave the US -- a luxury not afforded to him while under the conditions of his release agreement. "Lately I've been travelling all around the world, I've been to Brazil -- I just got back from Portugal. I've been in the Czech Republic, Poland, Spain, Helsinki [in] Finland -- which is kind of funny because Nokia mobile phones, one of our prior victims, actually sponsored my talk which is great. They've been forgiving," he said. Conceding his notoriety is at least in part responsible for his "reversal of fortune" -- he claimed he was worried that the initial conditions of his release would make it difficult for him to find a job -- Mitnick says his well-known name is useful in getting his foot in the door. "My demand in the speaking arena -- my name value or my branding -- is really a product of the sensationalism that was attached to the 'Kevin Mitnick' case... if that never happened I might be a fantastic author, a fantastic consultant, and a world renowned security professional, but by name I might not be known," Mitnick argued. "I do attribute the trials and tribulations that I experienced in the past to why my name is so well known, and... this notoriety -- it does drive some business." Mitnick plans to hand the finished manuscript to his publisher in September next year. Have you got a story for Mitnick's new book? Email him at hacks(a)defensivethinking.com.

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Re: Sunny Guantanamo (Re: Speaking of the Geneva convention)
by Freematt357＠aol.com 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

In a message dated 12/19/2003 8:33:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, jdd(a)dixons.org writes: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, J.A. Terranson wrote: > > >>Why does the US military have > >>to treat them as though they had US constitutional rights? They are not > >>citizens or physically present in the United States. > > > >In a nutshell, our Constitution *recognizes* universal human rights. It > does > >not *establish* these rights. If we are going to be faithful to this > >premise, physical location is a non-sequitor. > > This is a valid and probably commendable political position. I do not > believe, however, that it reflects current practice in the USA or > elsewhere. > > I say "probably" because it seems likely that adopting this as a practice > would have very high costs. You deserve a Tim response, but that ain't my style- Of course the USA doesn't currently practice upholding the universal rights that our constitution recognizes, this is why Tim suggests that people need to be shot, or be fucked till dead. And why would you think that American judicial morality and justice should be dependent on cost? After all it would be cheaper for the cops on a traffic stop to administratively just shoot you in the head for an offense then go through the costs and rigors of a trial. Regards, Matt-

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Re: "the Kuwait issue is not associated with America"
by Freematt357＠aol.com 20 Dec '03

20 Dec '03

I'm not sure what your motivation is for wanting to rewrite history, but that isn't what Glaspie said. There's a video interview I saw about all of this on 60 minutes (I think) where it was made clear that Glaspie did in fact say to Saddam that "We have no opinion on your Arab - Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait." Regards, Matt-

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Streisand loses to Adleman over California Coastline pics
by Bill Stewart 20 Dec '03

20 Dec '03

http://www.californiacoastline.org/streisand/pressrelease-decision.html Ken Adleman and his wife photographed the entire California coastline from their helicopter and put it on line free to the public. Barbara Streisand, ostensible environmentalist, sued because it might let gawking fans figure out how to get near her Malibu estate. The suit was against Adleman and his ISPs. The court agreed that free speech wins and that this was a SLAPP suit, and dinged her for legal fees.

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Re: Sunny Guantanamo (Re: Speaking of the Geneva convention)
by James A. Donald 20 Dec '03

20 Dec '03

-- On 19 Dec 2003 at 21:37, Freematt357(a)aol.com wrote: > That's bullshit. Saddam was told by our Chick ambassador (I > can't remember her name) that the US had no interest in his > dispute with Kuwait, in effect giving Saddam a green light. Commie lie http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/glaspie.html What Glaspie said was: : : The instruction we had during this period was that : : we should express no opinion on this issue and that : : the issue is not associated with America. James : : Baker has directed our official spokesmen to : : emphasize this instruction. We hope you can solve : : this problem using any suitable methods via Klibi or : : via President Mubarak. All that we hope is that : : these issues are solved quickly. With regard to all : : of this, can I ask you to see how the issue appears : : to us? : : : : My assessment after 25 years' service in this area : : is that your objective must have strong backing from : : your Arab brothers. I now speak of oil But you, Mr. : : President, have fought through a horrific and : : painful war. Frankly, we can see only that you have : : deployed massive troops in the south. Normally that : : would not be any of our business. But when this : : happens in the context of what you said on your : : national day, then when we read the details in the : : two letters of the Foreign Minister, then when we : : see the Iraqi point of view that the measures taken : : by the U.A.E. and Kuwait is, in the final analysis, : : parallel to military aggression against Iraq, then : : it would be reasonable for me to be concerned. And : : for this reason, I received an instruction to ask : : you, in the spirit of friendship -- not in the : : spirit of confrontation -- regarding your : : intentions. Which is diplomat talk for threats and menaces, not a green light. When she asks him to see 'how the issue appears to us" this is diplomat code for "I cannot state plainly how the issue appears to us because that would constitute making threats." And when she says "I ask not in the spirit of confrontation" that means "If the answer is unacceptable, there may well be a confrontation' --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG lzBXFdOUF+tOl6rQBvd0AC1waiR3dN1345QzG0hr 4avCGxaFFDmv2sq/x5Ltz8sQgA0tgllba+DAdFQq7

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RE: The killer app for encryption
by Major Variola (ret) 20 Dec '03

20 Dec '03

At 08:18 PM 12/19/03 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: [on onion routing POTS] >"trace" that call, or payment for that matter. So if bin Laden were feelin' >lonely one day and signed onto the network, you could give him a call, >without him worrying about the missles falling within a few minutes. > >-TD If you ran voice analysis over every POTS call and then directed your missile at the customer demarc you'd get your man. A good reason to decrypt to analog the voice at the endpoint, eh?

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"the Kuwait issue is not associated with America"
by Nomen Nescio 20 Dec '03

20 Dec '03

Thanks Steve, I don't think I have heard this before. I googled on the text you quoted and found this url http://wais.stanford.edu/Iraq/iraq_andambassaprilglaspie22303.html and a few more http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/april.html http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/glaspie.html I don't know what to say. This makes me sick to my stomach. I guess one way of lookin at this is that U.S. played dirty and deceiving. U.S. is more or less the reason Iraq invaded Kuwait. I guess this is not told on Fox news.

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Re: Sunny Guantanamo (Re: Speaking of the Geneva convention)
by Freematt357＠aol.com 20 Dec '03

20 Dec '03

In a message dated 12/19/2003 3:38:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, jamesd(a)echeque.com writes: > Saddam was warned that if he took Kuwait, terrible consequences > might well follow. > > That's bullshit. Saddam was told by our Chick ambassador (I can't remember her name) that the US had no interest in his dispute with Kuwait, in effect giving Saddam a green light. Regards, Matt-

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fox news
by privacy.at Anonymous Remailer 20 Dec '03

20 Dec '03

http://www.fauxnewschannel.com/

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