December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

church of crypto anarchy (Re: Taxing Churches for their views? Bad idea. (fwd)) (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:25:02 GMT > From: Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> > Subject: church of crypto anarchy (Re: Taxing Churches for their views? Bad idea. (fwd)) > Seems to me that the distinction that churches are exempt from taxes > partly hinges on their non-profit, or not-for-profit status. No, it stems from the fundamental democratic axiom of seperation of church and state. If the churches pay taxes they aren't seperate. If the state supports churches they aren't seperate. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Home Buisness Opportunity
by billy＠bingo.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Forwarded mail...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 97 07:47 MET > From: Jenaer Mixmaster Anonserver <mixmaster(a)as-node.jena.thur.de> > Subject: Libertaria in Cyberspace > For a truly free communications medium we must have strong cryptography. Seems to me that this is false. To have a truly free communcations medium we must have no censors. The very fact that crypto is involved guarantees that it isn't free. The use of crypto itself is a form of censorship if you don't have the key. > This is a given. No, it isn't. > Anonymity cannot be insured without strong cryptography Tell that to publius. 200+ years later and we still fight over who wrote what and they didn't even use a simple substitution cypher. The secret to anonymity is the same as keeping a secret, those who know keep their mouths shut. > and the freedom of remailers or similar mechanisms to operate > unobstructed. How is crypto going to keep them from kicking the turning the phones off, turning the power off, and kicking the front door in? It isn't. > Speech is never truly free unless it can be anonymous if > the author so chooses. Speech can't be truly free as long as any party can censor the traffic. > Who wants to espouse an opinion which will get > them flogged, either figuratively or literally, by their neighbors, their > government, or in some cases even their family? Then be so kind as to explain people who are intentionaly trying to force legal cases in order to challenge standards? This is a clear 1-to-1 mapping to flogging (per your example). > In my opinion, Mr. May is correct when he says that physical space is too > small and too exposed to outside intervention. Unfortunately cyberspace can't exist without meatspace. > Yes, cyberspace does look much more promising. Only if you don't have a clue as to the technical, social and economic milieu that it exists within. Show me a way to run a remailer program without a computer which exists in meatspace and your proposition might work. > The amount of "space" in > cyberspace is unbelievably large. You have a small imagination. The amount of space in cyberspace in no more than the sum total of all the hard drives in use on the network or network accessible at any given time. It's measured in terabytes but that is hardly unbelievable. > The amount of data I can store on one > gigabyte of hard drive is incredible by conventional standards. Your standards are pretty low when one considers that the largest databases on the planet are measured in terabytes (1,000 gig's). > And space is very cheap > in cyberspace. Really? Then please be so kind as to pay my monthy bills related to Internet access. I assure you they are far from 'cheap'. > A truly free communications medium must allow its users to be anonymous. No, it must provide no moderation on traffic. All anonymous access buys one is reasonable deniability, a far cry from free communcations; and in fact fundamentaly unrelated to the concept of free speech. > That an opinion is unpopular does not make that opinion wrong or invalid. Doesn't make it correct either, the proof is in the pudding. > That an author does not want his "true name" attached to an opinion does > not diminish the value of that opinion. In fact the validity of a thesis should in no way ever rest on the personality or reputation capital, it should rest solely on what can be proven and tested about it. [other stuff deleted] > Tim May is correct: Libertaria will thrive in cyberspace. Only in your collective wet dreams. Libertaria as described by Tim, yourself, and others will never come to pass in that form. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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IRS reform bill going strong [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > IRS Reform Bill Skates Through House > > [INLINE] > > WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, Nov. 5) -- A bill to reform the Internal > Revenue Service skated through the House of Representatives today on > an overwhelming 426-4 vote. > > The measure picked up the support of Democrats after its sponsors made > key changes that drew the approval of the Clinton Administration. > > The most significant change would preserve the president's power to > appoint the IRS commissioner. The original version of the bill would > have transferred that duty to an independent board. > > The bill's centerpiece is an 11-member board made up mostly of private > citizens that would oversee the IRS and help manage its long-term > projects. > > Bill sponsor Rob Portman (R-Ohio) said the measure marked "the first > time in 45 years that we have attempted as a Congress to enact > fundamental reform."

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Re: [news] TV station sets cybersex sting
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>*** TV station sets cybersex sting >With cyperporn and cybersex ranking as sensational news items on >local TV stations, Fox's Los Angeles outlet has taken the trend a >step further by ensnaring adult sexual predators. KTTV's Fox 11 News >at 10 worked with a 21-year-old woman posing as a 14-year-old to >conduct cybersting operations that led to the arrests of five men. >KTTV used the unnamed woman as bait, having her enter online chat >rooms where she was immediately targeted. The station filmed the >online seductions as well as the arrests of the men, who included an >attorney, a doctor, a retired Army officer and an investigator for >the Dept. of Labor. See story at >http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=5777644-464 And then they tricked a real 14 year old girl into meeting with them and having sex so that maybe, if they really, really tried very hard, they could argue that a real crime had been committed, right? Didn't think so.

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Re: Government goons force Goddard to recant
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous wrote: > > Time to add a new horseman: "conspiracy theory-spreading libertarians" > Goddard says he wanted to promote libertarian ideology by > encouraging distrust of the government. It's amazing how a few minutes in a cell with Jim Bell can help people see the error of their ways.

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Re: IRS reform bill going strong [CNN]
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Choate wrote: > > IRS Reform Bill Skates Through House > > The bill's centerpiece is an 11-member board made up mostly of private > > citizens that would oversee the IRS and help manage its long-term > > projects. > > > > Bill sponsor Rob Portman (R-Ohio) said the measure marked "the first > > time in 45 years that we have attempted as a Congress to enact > > fundamental reform." Gee, and the IRS is being put in the hands of private citizens just before the Y2K problem comes to a head. Hhmmm...

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A Constitutionalist Recants
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Law & Order has showed me the error of my ways. After watching tonight's show, I realized that those who 'hide behind the Constitution' are all murderers. I was so proud of the judge who made his speech about supporting the concepts behind the constitution, and then was able to see his error in not throwing it out the window because of a single dead person. I cheered when the judge dismissed a juror for quoting the founding fathers. God bless what used to be America! ReformedConstitutionalistMonger "Sure, Dan Quayle was an idiot for getting all worked up over a Murphy Brown episode, but this is different...isn't it?"

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PGP's SMTP enforcer and ISPs
by phelix＠vallnet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Recently, my ISP became the victim of spammers. Their response, like many other ISPs, is to block port 25 for all their dialup users. This means that all outgoing email must be routed through their mail server. Now that PGP has an SMTP enforcers, and that others will eventually follow with a S/MIME equivalent, we are literally an executive order away from an effective (if not 100% complete) ban on "inappropriate" encryption on email communications. All it would take is a national emergency, like the next war against Saddam Hussein, or a law that does not treat ISPs like common carriers and holds them liable for what their users do. And the worst thing of all is that most people won't even notice it. Hell, I was the only person on my end to notice that my ISP had blocked port 25. -- Phelix, "perfect paranoia is perfect awareness"

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by fasc＠mxtro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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