December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Key Signing
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bill Stewart wrote: > I'm not sure how comfortable I am signing a key which has the > private keys made public - so I signed it, and revoked it, > and you're welcome to the signed revocation certificate :-) > > The keyserver says it accepted the certificate, but doesn't > find it when I query it for the key, but then it did that to me > earlier today, so I'm not sure if it's there or not. > (It's the server at http://www.pgp.com/keyserver/pks-lookup.cgi .) > > The KeyID was 0x61C747B1 - 512-bit RSA The PGP Keyserver could not find the key when accessed from the PGP web site (Find a Public Key), but when requesting it from inside PGP 5.0, it retrieved the key, revoking the key on my secret key ring, in the process. Necessarily Knott, ME (Although it _may_ be me, since I have not signed the message... Or is it the other way around? This is getting confusing.)

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Re: Key Signing
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bill Stewart wrote: > I'm not sure how comfortable I am signing a key which has the > private keys made public - so I signed it, and revoked it, > and you're welcome to the signed revocation certificate :-) BTW, I was farting around and discovered that I could change the password on a revoked secret key. This means that someone can crack the password on your revoked secret key if they have access to it. This would make your new key vulnerable if you used the same password. I suppose this qualifies as PGP trivia, but if it saves the life of just one fascist dicator... !Knott (Who's dare?)

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Developing Non-Commercial Products with the PGPsdk!
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:23:46 -0800 To: mac crypto list <mac-crypto(a)vmeng.com> From: Vinnie Moscaritolo <vinnie(a)vmeng.com> Subject: Developing Non-Commercial Products with the PGPsdk! Sender: <mac-crypto(a)vmeng.com> Precedence: Bulk Status: U --- begin forwarded text Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:22:04 -0800 To: vinnie(a)vmeng.com From: Vinnie Moscaritolo <vinnie(a)pgp.com> Subject: Developing Non-Commercial Products with the PGPsdk Cc: Bcc: X-Attachments: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Attention: freeware and non-commercial developers. PGP would like to encourage the development and deployment of PGP Secured freeware or other non-commercial products and will grant you a licence to develop to the PGPsdk and distribute the PGPsdk shared libraries with your non-commercial application. We have added a special section for freeware or non-commercial developers to the PGPsdk website http://www.pgp.com/sdk/ Shareware developers take note: PGP hasn't forgoten about you. we are working on a licence agreement forS hareware or small developers too. Stay Tunned! ________________________________________________________________________ _ PGP Developer Support main: 415.572.0430 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc. 2121 S. El Camino Real <sdkinfo(a)pgp.com> http://www.pgp.com/sdk/ San Mateo, CA 94403 DH Key: http://keys.pgp.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE12C71C1 ________________________________________________________________________ __ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Business Security 5.5 iQA/AwUBNGunuIjx9Q4HClz/EQKWRACfXp9rkKs+OFu5jnl3Y3nXdn2WqIcAoOFr /+NBznWGPMHC/mPIP6ZUfCE6 =Mv4V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- end forwarded text Vinnie Moscaritolo http://www.vmeng.com/vinnie/ Fingerprint: 3F903472C3AF622D5D918D9BD8B100090B3EF042 "You can get a lot more with a smile and a gun then a smile, alone." - Al Capone --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Re: Scared of US; Where to relocate?
by Vincent Cate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > It has become very clear to me over the past few years that amerika > > is headed for some pretty rough times, and I've decided to leave before > > it becomes illegal for me to do so. The only question is, where to? > > Comet CypherPunk Bop-Shoo-Bop will be approaching close to earth > in late 1999 to drop off Jesus and pick up the CypherPunks. > We're meeting at Tim's place. > {Anyone who makes it to the pick-up site get's a T-shirt that says, > "Darwin was right!"} A splinter group of cypherpunks will be taking a boat from Anguilla to the volcanic island of Montserrat for a religious experience. The prophecy is that at 2:33 during the afternoon of Feb 26th, 1998 the island will be consumed by total darkness. T-shirts expected. Watch http://fc98.ai/ for details. -- Vince ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vincent Cate Offshore Information Services Vince(a)Offshore.com.ai http://www.offshore.com.ai/ Anguilla, BWI http://www.offshore.com.ai/vince ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Tim May's offensive racism (was: about RC4)
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Anonymous <anon(a)anon.efga.org> >This illustrates what a liability the poster has become to the >cypherpunks. The group is becoming just another militia front, >identified with racism and white supremacy, applauding violent murder >of government agents, one step from applauding the Oklahoma killings. >Its original purpose all but forgotten, the list has died, poisoned >by the hatred flowing from its leader. What would be the most effective way of managing the problem you perceive? Probably by writing the kinds of articles you would like to see on the list. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNGtyvpaWtjSmRH/5AQGnuAf8DuLcPSSxta4H5/1C0Apwn98wB2sSn4NT 4VcIfgZo/xQrQcb5HjMIj6F1mJ2modxqM4o33/SqKjceMZxGKPh3lmzraiogM7TS V/saJqc0hS4Dx7FheUeA6l6WO1vlLmDBgWBF6Wza4F2finYdviB7YOKA2PW9Qm9w uC1SQEO90mZfNHbQPYUAFXmVMSf9fvLbJL273YViV8NDWI6Fgca9gc5MZKuOyv2G 1IreweSHPfJLi0005bMKFrQWdMW+0DPUBoDTXLAzL87b9P7oRL+iDdrGqF9tc2H8 SJQ8WZpi2/tCMK15UQyNkFydm3gS29wjhToZQWK07T18SC6tDqcpww== =vTAR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Find the Mole in the Mirror
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- John Young wrote: >Monty Cantsin wrote: >>The right thing to do is to assume there are a certain number of moles >>around and engineer your activities accordingly. If you really think >>you can Find The Mole, then I would think your first step is to keep >>quiet about what you are doing. > >Like, if you will, Monty Cantsin, the venerable generic pseudonym for >sub rosa strategems. You fingering yourselves, Monty? > >If you haven't been IDed as a mole here yet, you will, probably by >your own woefully engineered statements. > >All of us are moles for one ideology or another, maybe for several if >the blowing wind tosses us that way. What's the point of being here >if not for relishment of deceitful faux combat, to draw out the enemy >(enemies) as Tim and Bob admirably display in their artful allure of >ulterior motivated peacemakers and condescendors, me for one, as >Declan love jousts CDT, as many us pisswind DC, NWO, ZOG, Armenians, >Nipponese. No, I mean a real mole. The kind that gets people killed or imprisoned. Actually, the nature of this particular group imposes some twists on Find The Mole. If this were some church group, and we tapped the phone of a suspected mole, and all we could get is 3DES encrypted speech, we could be pretty sure we found one. But that doesn't work around here. Anytime you see somebody doing something unusual, it is just as likely to mean it's Just Another Cypherpunk Who Is Up To Something. Likewise, operators of a mole will have a terrible time determining mole loyalty. A problem with informants is that they sometimes discover the target group is made up of pretty reasonable people and go native. And since using remailers is part of the cover... Moles can burrow in two directions. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNGtwoZaWtjSmRH/5AQFW1Af9Fu1B4bSiUbIiJuJnE48Xv/qScqldFqzT htUV4ZPHNzNvb3hQpaZMq5P1Lnyil2ZyhCA7u8ld6zbwfTc9JNMxb6OmWQN+pXdt 5ceDScGKtbp5uLtyaW0MbRvYPhY9RTvCl4IQbu++6AojiGd6/JxJFHD8L7XOlWV6 /IgfJ4r3aldRXZQpo+jTN2BL4HuvcrUSbBcj4H/rT7iZTS+Id1ZaR2FwxT01+z1g NaNxjaa83zlCyIUfRydPCmUPzk1lBjVQ3D6FKJjQ2A/PpQAly0Ynz6WQEYqE8h5N vA7vlm7W48kDS86DvK7RCaSe0w19BHcWQxyhDprAYUQ+XIrD2jZNaA== =mzrr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Appeals court says CDA blocks liability for Internet providers
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=4th&navby=case&no=97152… Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:14:23 -0500 From: Patrick Carome <pcarome(a)WILMER.COM> Subject: Fourth Circuit Rules in AOL v. Zeran I want to bring to the attention of this group an important decision issued yesterday by the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in a case that I argued on behalf of America Online, Inc. The Fourth Circuit affirmed the decision in Zeran v. America Online, Inc. that has been a frequent topic of discussion in this forum. In particular, the Fourth Circuit held that Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (47 U.S.C. § 230) "plainly immunizes computer service providers like AOL from liability for information that originates with third parties." In an opinion written for a unanimous panel by Chief Judge Harvey Wilkinson, the court affirmed a ruling by the United States District Court for Eastern District of Virginia that is reported at 958 F. Supp. 1124 (1997). The case concerned the question of whether AOL may be liable for allegedly being unreasonably slow to remove a series of allegedly defamatory messages posted on AOL message boards by an unidentified third party. The Court of Appeals based its ruling on Section 230(c)(1), which states that "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider." The Court of Appeals also rejected the argument that Section 230 should not apply in this case because the messages at issue had been posted before the statute was enacted.

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This judge needs killing
by Paul Bradley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Uk News: Judge David Selwood today sentenced 3 writers for the magazine "Green Anarchist" to 3 years imprisonment each for their articles in the magazine which he concluded incited others to break the law. The magazine contained diaries for the previous months animal rights activism events and contained articles generally favourable to the cause of animal liberation. Another judge who has richly earned the death penalty. Datacomms Technologies data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: FC76DA85 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Re: smaller f00f.c
by jim＠mentat.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam says: > Hey, challenge is on: > > main(){int i=0xc8c70ff0;void (*f)()=&i;f();} /* f00fies 44 char */ > main(){((int(*)())"\360\017\307\310")();} > main(){int i=0xc8c70ff0,(*f)()=&i;f();} > main(i){int(*f)()=&i;i=0xc8c70ff0;f();} > main(i){i=0xc8c70ff0;((int(*)())&i)();} > (*f)();main(i){f=&i;i=0xc8c70ff0;f();} > (*f)()="\360\017\307\310";main(){f();} /* 38 chars */ > > Compiled with gcc. long main=0xc8c70ff0; /* also gcc; 21 chars, and not my invention */ Without the "long" you get a warning, but it compiles anyway... 16 chars. Jim Gillogly jim(a)acm.org

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Re: Tim May's offensive racism (was: about RC4)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Monty Cantsin wrote: > Anonymous <anon(a)anon.efga.org> > >This illustrates what a liability the poster has become to the > >cypherpunks. The group is becoming just another militia front, > >identified with racism and white supremacy, applauding violent murder > >of government agents, one step from applauding the Oklahoma killings. > >Its original purpose all but forgotten, the list has died, poisoned > >by the hatred flowing from its leader. > > What would be the most effective way of managing the problem you > perceive? > > Probably by writing the kinds of articles you would like to see on the > list. If you don't speak up when someone says something objectionable, you are implicitly condoning it. Silence gives consent. How many people have objected to Tim May's racist comments? Only one or two. How many objected when William Geiger suggested that more nuclear bombs should have been dropped on Japan? None. How many have objected to the notion that residents of Washington, D.C. should be killed? Hardly any. At one time the cypherpunks stood for freedom of speech and protection of privacy. Today they stand for guns, violence, threats of terrorism and murder, racism, homophobia, jingoism. It's ironic to see that the kind of off-topic, flaming, irrelevant posts which have caused such consternation in the past are now the norm. Reasonable people have been largely driven off the list, leaving it to supporters of violence and hate. The sad thing is, this is all unnecessary. The original conception was that cryptography would allow people to protect the privacy of voluntary interactions. Laws forbidding voluntary transactions will be difficult or impossible to enforce. We will move into a world where there is far more liberty and freedom for everyone. There is no need to blast government agents' heads open. There is no need to nuke D.C., or Japan. There is no need to disparage people of other races and cultures. Step back from this immersion in a culture of violence. Draw the cloak of privacy about your actions. That is the true cypherpunk way.

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