December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: A tad more on Goldbach's... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:06:11 -0800 > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Re: A tad more on Goldbach's... > Ditto for your bizarre theories about how electric fields work, about how > charges inside conducting spheres don't follow Gauss's Law, and other > crankish theories about electricity. Bullshit Tim. I NEVER said that. You and the other physics geniuses who stated that an internal charge on a conducting sphere doesn't get propogated out to the surface of the sphere are the ones who are claiming that Gauss' Law doesn't apply. Don't give me credit for your stupidity. You give it a rest. ____________________________________________________________________ Technology cannot make us other than what we are. James P. Hogan The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: A tad more on Goldbach's...
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May scolds Jim Choate: > Ditto for your bizarre theories about how electric fields work, about how > charges inside conducting spheres don't follow Gauss's Law, and other > crankish theories about electricity. > > Give it a rest. No doubt it would be rude to point out that it was Tim May's aggressive defense of off-topic postings that has made cypherpunks a safe haven for the likes of Jim Choate. As for Choate, perhaps his least charming trait is his insistence on posting his incoming private email to the mailing list, as though cypherpunks were his personal mailbox. He even scolds people who have the courtesy to take off-topic discussions to private email. This behavior is exactly the opposite of appropriate mailing list etiquette. Choate is like a little boy who feels a fart coming on when in the bathroom, and who runs into the living room to share it with guests. His particular stench has been fouling the list for far too long.

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Space Aliens Address cpunx
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [Bienfait Nutly News] THE COALDUST SALOON, SCENE OF MUCH DEBAUCHERY of late, was host tonight to Guest Sprinkler Jeff Gordon on the annual Golden Showers of Nuggets celebration of Notable Peons, with numerous notable peed-ons in drunken attendance (when not staggering outside to do some notable peeing-on, themselves). Lamely trying to establish some common philosophical ground with the rowdy crowd, Jeff tried to cast his organization's mission as embodying "less is more." Realizing that "you have less, we have more" is not exactly what the Taoist concept means, the attendees raised catcalls to a pitch sufficient to shatter beer mugs within a radius of 100 yards. That in turn led to outpourings of grief so profound that Jeff was momentarily forgotten in the frenzy to order refills. Trying another tack, Jeff launched into his "Nation of Laws" speech, ignoring shouted questions about selective prosecution, institutional revenge-taking, political hit lists, taxpayer suicides, and his organization's complicity in incidents of mysterious death more numerous than those trailing behind El Prez Klinton himself. When he delivered the line about "the price we pay for a civilized society," the extremes of apoplectic laughter so engendered were alarming enough that he paused in the interest of avoiding the necessity to explain deaths of attendees by traumatic mirth to the Canadian authorities. When he resumed, so many of the recovering crowd had gone to the restrooms to clean themselves up after pissing their pants and some of them vomiting from the effect of convulsive laughter that his later points were largely lost. The question and answer period was somewhat stunted by Jeff's seemingly uncontrollable habit of asking each questioner's SS number. He didn't seem to comprehend that out of his usual institutional context such requests set off everyone's alarm bells, being the hyperparanoid rebel fucks that they are. Of those who persisted, two threw Jeff curve balls he seemed unprepared to catch. One asked him his relationship to the Gordon who penned the Treasury's notorious Gordon Report of 1981, in which the author proposed using Letters of Marque and Reprisal against uncooperative tax haven nations, denying their flag airlines landing rights in the U.S., and blatantly stated that the U.S. must use every means at its disposal to pressure other nations to change their laws, even their constitutions, if necessary, to conform with the wishes of the U.S. Treasury and submit themselves to U.S. extraterritorial jurisdiction. Jeff seemed flustered, then changed the subject. The other asked him if it wasn't true that since the USG can create money at will out of thin air, and that therefore tax collections are obviously not needed to run the government, but that since increasing the money supply one-sidedly to fund government would obviously lead to hyperinflation, that the true function of the income tax and therefore the IRS is to take money out of circulation and destroy it to keep the money supply in balance. Jeff stammered, a few syllables slipping out as if to ask, "How did you...? who told you...?" Jeff hurriedly gathered his things and made his exit, trailed by the slow-thinking guer^H^H^Horillas he brought as bodyguards, his APC kicking up streams of packed snow as he sped away down the road. Declan "Chainsaw" McCullough didn't seem to notice Jeff's premature withdrawal (as, indeed, he hadn't seemed to notice Jeff's entrance), and continued trying to charm two buxom blonde reportwhores with his tales of journalistic derring-do and wildly exaggerated claims of his manly proportions. Blanc, tiring of this reportwhore's incessant questions about her panties, settled the issue once and for all (or at least for _that_ evening) by slipping them off while seated, and placing them over my head in such a way that I could see out the legholes while inhaling her womanly fragrance. My dizziness prevented me from noticing much else for the rest of the evening, my reaction to The Scent being not unlike that of a cat to catnip. I was told later that after collapsing to the floor I squirmed my way from table to table, making the complete circuit of the Coal Dust Saloon, confirming everyone's suspicions that I can't be taken anywhere. But then, neither can they. I was recovered enough at night's end to help with the ritual decontamination of the Saloon that always follows the infectious presence of government thugs. In addition to the spiritual cleansing, some half-dozen subminiature bugging devices were recovered, followed by much entertaining speculation on which local asswipe they should be planted on to encourage the most dangerous life forms around to feed on each other. TruthMonger "Just because you have part of me locked up doesn't mean you have all of me locked up." When I heard them say, "You have the right to remain bent over. Anything you say or we imagine you said or would like to tell people you said can and will be used against you. You have the right to an attorney who works for us. If you cannot afford one, an attorney will be provided to help you cop a plea. Your ass belongs to us," I realized the Revolution had already begun. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNIOCSM5WpAclQcU1AQEayQQAxK8pV2vaImguCj6dmGBTvzWrkgZWMwIy dfxDsf2akW+tbKZlj2PhMSrR1akBEd0LEsbekVf0bP7d/EAzNAMtB2FUezFhEtE3 BrV6fodfNzNsMMSR/i+tb+wN/6vSYXyqJmCyTfIzUnmHFHvtNf0WfIbEZi6wliQi KtsjgvL3A2A= =kYIE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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IP-Adresses
by Patrick Hinsberger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, my English is fuck, but I hope that anybody unerstand me <bg> If I`ve got a IP-Adress, f.E. 126.0.202.146 and our proxy denies this Adress, I can transform this adress in one number... ((126*256)+0)*256+202)*256+146 = 7E 00 CA 92 Is there a mistake? Can I connect with this adress to a Website? (Netscape Navigator and Proxy from Bull Systems...) -@Hinse@- Please give reply direct to my E-Mail adress, and not to the group...

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Y2K Privatization Opportunities
by Carol Moore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Libertarians: Whatever the extent of Y2K related problems that actually develops, there is one thing for certain: The private sector will be up and running smoothly before much of the government sector. Y2K will be a fantastic opportunity to promote and achieve privatization. So let's start planning for taking advantage of that opportunity and stop arguing about how bad it will or will not be. Somebody want to start the "Y2K Privatization Coalition"?? CarolMoore(a)kreative.net http://www.kreative.net/carolmoore

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by K1cZS9PLE＠ps.quotron.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Welcome to ZDU
by ZDU Email 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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trusting code
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:12 PM 11/23/98 +0000, Frank O'Dwyer wrote: >Vlad Stesin wrote: >> I don't quite understand the logic behind this. The fact that the >> program's source is available is itself a proof that there are no >> backdoors. Anyone can read the source code and make sure it's OK. > >Anyone can, but does anyone? Yes we do, but applied skeptics also consider the problem is also trusting your compiler, and the rest of the OS (incl. memory manager, keyboard driver, the email program your PGP utility may plug into, BIOS, etc.) What version of Microsoft compilers will begin checking for Mozilla code and compiling 'differently'? See Ritchie's Turing award article on Trusting Trust...

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open source
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:48 AM 11/23/98 -0700, Jim Burnes - Denver wrote: >Break into the coding environment? Does that mean they broke into >the VMS development shop? It is reasonable to believe that the US government (and others) finds a patriotic "contact" with access to source, inside various big code shops (MSoft, Lotus, the corporation formerly known as DEC, etc.) If it were otherwise we would not be getting our tax dollars' worth, eh? --Maced aliens confide in my fugs

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A bit more on Goldbach's and Primes
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Goldbach's Conjecture: Any even number >2 can be represented as the sum of two prime numbers. Goldbach's Extension: Any even number >=6 can be represented as the sum of three even numbers. 2 plus two evens that are each 1 less than a prime. Process: 1. Pick an even number 2. Select largest prime that is smaller by at least 4. 3. Add 1. 4. The difference between 1 and 3 should be a p-1. Add one to the difference and it must be in the list of primes. If it's not then go back to 2. and select the next smaller prime because the odd number that comes from (p-1)+1 isn't prime for that prime. Observation: This technique could be used to extrapolate potential unknown primes from known primes since it produces a much smaller list of potential candidates than simply testing consecutive odds via a sieve. It also is not as porous as Mersenne Prime tests. 2+(largest_known_prime-1)+(next_smallest_unknown_prime-1)=big_even_number So, we need a way of guestimating the magnitude of the next prime and pick big_even_numbers that are appropriate. Observation: For a given x the number of primes <x is limited by x/ln(x). So we could note the points where x/ln(x) increases by 1. Even Number Sum's: 6, 2+2+2 8, 2+2+4 10, 2+2+6 12, 2+4+6 14, 2+6+6 18, 2+4+12 20, 2+2+16 22, 2+2+18 24, 2+4+18 26, 2+6+18 28, 2+4+22 30, 2+6+22 32, 2+2+28 34, 2+2+30 36, 2+4+30 38, 2+6+30 40, 2+2+36 ... 100, 2+2+96 ... 398, 2+8+388 Note: this breaks since 8 isn't available. 9 ain't a prime. 2+14+382 next smaller doesn't work since 14 isn't there. 15 isn't prime. 2+18+378 that one works! ... 666, 2+4+660 ... 758, 2+6+750 ... 1,032, 2+10+1020 ... 1,044, 2+4+1038 ... 6,236, 2+6+6228 ... 7,920, 2+12+7906 Note: can't use 7,919 since it's delta is <4. Iterated Sums: 2+2+2=6 2+2+4=8 2+2+6=10 2+2+10=14 2+4+2=8 2+4+4=10 2+4+6=12 2+4+10=16 2+6+2=10 2+6+4=12 2+6+6=14 2+6+10=18 1st 1,000 Primes & their p-1's: p p-1 ------------------------------- 2 1 3 2 5 4 7 6 11 10 13 12 17 16 19 18 23 22 29 28 31 30 37 36 41 40 43 42 47 46 53 52 59 58 61 60 67 66 71 70 73 72 79 78 83 82 89 88 97 96 101 100 103 107 109 113 127 131 137 139 149 151 157 163 167 173 179 181 191 193 197 199 211 223 227 229 233 239 241 251 257 263 269 271 277 281 283 293 307 311 313 317 331 337 347 349 353 359 367 373 379 383 389 397 401 409 419 421 431 433 439 443 449 457 461 463 467 479 487 491 499 503 509 521 523 541 547 557 563 569 571 577 587 593 599 601 607 613 617 619 631 641 643 647 653 659 661 673 677 683 691 701 709 719 727 733 739 743 751 757 761 769 773 787 797 809 811 821 823 827 829 839 853 857 859 863 877 881 883 887 907 911 919 929 937 941 947 953 967 971 977 983 991 997 1009 1013 1019 1021 1031 1033 1039 1049 1051 1061 1063 1069 1087 1091 1093 1097 1103 1109 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