December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: FYI
by StanSqncrs＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Someone wrote me in private - << Yes, we want to see On Sun, 31 May 1998 StanSqncrs(a)aol.com wrote: > If you've heard rumors about Amway being a cult, it's true. It's part of the > right-wing/ChristianCoalition cult. If anyone wants to see my evidence, let > me know. >> I caught an Amway employee (works in Ada and everything) on a music list engaging in the censorship of the messages in that band's music. But first, a who's who of the people involved in the war on the Arts/Music - gopher://gopher.igc.apc.org/00/orgs/alternet/demval/cultwars You'll notice Mr. and Mrs. Richard DeVos of the DeVos foundation listed, his son runs Amway, and Richard was the guy who started it (along with another person). Here's my Amway employee threatening to use Amway lawyers against someone (me) simply trying to speak on a music list - ===== In a message dated 4/27/98 8:43:23 AM Central Daylight Time, Russell_Gorton(a)amway.com writes: <snip> << ... buddy. I'm just down the hall from a team of about 80 high-powered lawyers who are fledgling experts in Internet harassment issues (amway.com is a very-flamed, very-hacked, very high-profile domain. >> <snip> << --Russell Thomas Gorton Amway Corporation (yup, the direct-sell soap empire) Ada, Michigan, USA >> ===== Of course, I do admit, that I do speak from a left POV. ;-) You see, the band is a band called Camel, and I like to talk about their lyrics. One song's lyrics I posted was this one - ===== 'Refugee' - 'Stationary Traveer' (lyrics by Susan Hoover) There's a rumour flying through the air Paranoia's creeping everywhere. You're gonna raise a wall - to draw the line You say you've got your reasons I hear them all the time You say it's talking treason and a crime ... to question why Don't you know I've seen this all before? History repeats itself once more. I don't want to go - and I can't stay You say you've got your reasons I hear them all the time You say it's talking treason and a crime ... to question why I don't want to be a refugee, I just want a single guarantee. I don't want to be a refugee I JUST WANT THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE. ===== Basicly, Russell is part of a right-wing gang working the Camelogue list. It is documented here - http://members.aol.com/whtsametau/ofir.html. It's called The Humpheads. When you get the the code - "&y", though, haven't updated that. Here's something I snuck to the Camelogue list - ===== 3) Fish. X-tian fish. You can find a real one here on &y's server (if not in the supposed user's address ;-) ) - http://www.roadkill.com/~dpgerdes/ But these guys don't like to do business with folk other than their own, that's why they use that symbol. Here's where &y's X-tian fish is - "&y". Take the & and remove the top loop of it in your mind, and it certainly looks MUCH like an X-tian fish! That's how I found &y's picture, I looked for that symbol on his server. You see, his compadres know what to look for. Can you say "right-wing conspiracy"? Sure, I knew ya could! ===== &y (Andy) Burnett is the "moderator nazi" (his words) of that list. He has no real info about himself on his facad server - Roadkill Consulting (www.roadkill.com) But he had a picture stashed (in a 5 meg movie) in a place that only his right-wing buddies (or someone observing the right-wing conspiracy) would think to click. On one of his supposed user's boring pages at the very bottom in fine print where he thanks "&y" for his webspace, and the "&y" is a link. So, if you also see a bunch of evidence against folk other than the Amway employee, remember, that Amway employee is part of a gang, and that accomplices in crimes are JUST as guilty as the actual trigger-person, therefore, you need to know what his compadres are also doing. Stan, 'Wall of Reality' Webring http://members.aol.com/RealityWal/

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Earn $100 every time OUR phone rings...
by troen444＠worldnet.att.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

ALL YOU DO IS ADVERTISE THIS 800 NUMBER! THAT'S ALL!! $100 goes to you for EVERY sale that the company closes! Does the idea of making at least $1,000 per week beginning your 2nd week of doing business excite you? How about never having to sell a thing to your customer and never having to talk to ANYONE to make money? I don't know how this could get any easier. Take a look at my latest WEEKLY commission checks: http://www.cyberdue.com/fortune/ EVERY aspect of selling or talking to someone is DONE COMPLETELY by the company! The number one home based business for the 2nd year in a row, Fortune 5000 is a member of the Better Business Bureau and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. WHAT THIS BUSINESS WILL DO FOR YOU: * Handles all your calls, closes your sales, and sends you WEEKLY commission checks! * It pays you a $100 commission (that's over 50% of the total sale) for EVERY sale. CHECKS put $$$ in your pocket in less than your first week or two... Quick commission earnings build and maintain motivation. ALL YOU DO IS ADVERTISE the toll-free number and your ID number. * You can get STARTED TODAY. Just advertise the business toll-free number with your ID # and let this business CLOSE YOUR SALES every day... They do all the work and YOU GET PAID FOR IT! * You may advertise any way you choose: Bulk E-Mail, Flyers, Classifieds, Postcards, etc. Suppose you use bulk E-Mail, as I am: 100,000 E-Mails with a 1/10th of a percent (0.1%) sales rate at $100 per sale nets $10,000... not too bad. There is nothing else out there that will provide you with an immediate income beginning THIS WEEK with minimal effort. Before you call, I want you to think about the quality of the live operators handling your call. I am convinced you will not find a better team of closers for your own personal sales. You will clearly understand what I am talking about once you call. PLEASE DON'T LET THIS PASS YOU BY. MAKE THE CALL!! 1-800-811-2141 You will be asked for ID #50030 when you call. (Live operators are available from 8 AM-10 PM CST Monday through Saturday and will be able to answer any questions you may have.) Call one of the 24hr TESTIMONIAL lines at 888-703-5389, 888-446-6949, 888-446-6951 or 888-731-3457 (all toll free).

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printed materials exports
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"A printed book or other printed material setting forth encryption source code is not itself subject to the EAR...."

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que pasa
by one4evil＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cypherpunks, I would like to thank Xcott for sending me that faq. Alos, thanks to the other guy who sent the info on e-mailing your way around the web...It is VERY confusing... I just have a few quick questions. I have gotten well over 25 messages from this list and so far only one of them had _anything_ to do with crypto...I know that most or all of you have a bit of background in crypto but I am just learning. So what I am wanting to know is a: are there any other crypto e-lists that are for newbies? b: are there any better text philes to read that give a better introduction that is for a newbie and c: what do you people feel is the best encryption someone can have that I could get? Thanks, D. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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Re: Lack of net access blows:
by Interstate 95 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 28 May 1998, Nalus Optic wrote: > > Cyberpunks, > > Que pasa? My name is D and I am new to the list...I will most > likely just be lurking for a while, till I get a visit from the Duel > Pentium II 266, 128megs of RAM, running Linux on one PII and Win98 on the > Other Fariy...She should be along by the end of the summer... You mean one machine with dual processors? You can't run two operating systems concurrently on an SMP machine. You can install two operating systems and choose which one to run, of course. > Anywhoo, the point of the subject is that at this point and time > I don't have net access so I was hopeing someone out there would send me > the FAQ that is talked of in the welcome message. It can be found at: > > anonymous ftp to rtfm.mit.edu:pub/usenet-by-group/sci.crypt > > At least I think that is where it is at... > > I thank who ever is nice enough to send it to me...Also, maybe > post a message to me as soon as you send it...That way I don't end up > with like all of you sending it and Juno kicking my ass again for > flooding there box. This is complicated by the fact that there are several FAQs in that directory. One, combined, is 100K. Juno has a message limit of around 64K, meaning that the FAQ would have to be split, and I don't know what the upper limit is on the size of a mailspool at Juno. My suggestion is to sneak into a public university computer lab, sit down at a machine then FTP it and put it on a floppy. Most of the people in these labs don't ask questions because getting carded tends to really tick the students off. If they do, say you left your ID card in your car, that you're very sorry, that you usually don't get asked for it when you walk in, that you're taking <professor's name> <name of one of his CS classes> class, that you only need about 5 minutes of time, and that you'll remember it next time.

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Welcome to The New York Times on the Web
by verify＠nytimes.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RSA, NAI Settle Suit
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

PR Newswire, June 1, 1998 [Excerpt]: RSA Data Security and Network Associates Announce Settlement of Lawsuit; Network Associates Licenses RSA Crypto-security Software Redwood City and Santa Clara, Calif., June 1 -- RSA Data Security, Inc. and Network Associates today announced that the companies have settled patent infringement and copyright lawsuits brought by RSA against Network Associates and its subsidiaries PGP, Inc., and Trusted Information Systems (TIS). In addition, Network Associates entered into a new royalty-bearing license for RSA's crypto-security engines, providing Network Associates with rights to include RSA components within a number of Network Associates, PGP, and TIS products. Under the terms of the settlement agreement, Network Associates will draw on a previously established escrow set at the time of the PGP acquisition to pay RSA an undisclosed sum to settle past issues and for legal fees. As a result of today's settlement agreement, three federal actions and a court-ordered arbitration related to the dispute have been resolved.

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Foundation for Information Policy Research
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Source: http://www.ntk.net/fipr/ Subject: URGENT: press release - FIPR Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:52:16 +0100 From: Ross Anderson Title: New Independent Research Foundation Backed by Microsoft Embargoed until 11.00 Friday 29th May Too often, policy issues relating to information technology are seperately debated by two distinct grouups: technology experts and those focused on social concerns. Policy makers face the challenge of reconciling the seperate debates in areas where technology is often evolving very quickly. A new research foundation aims to provide clear advice that spans this gap and is independent of vested interests. The Foundation for Information Policy Research will fund research into how information technology affects society. It is launched at a press conference on Friday 29th May at 11.00 am. (1) Microsoft has contributed a six-figure sum to cover the launch costs. Internet service providers Poptel and Demon are also supporting the Foundation. Its independence will be guaranteed, however, by a board of trustees. (2) In the medium term it will be supported by subscriptions from a range of firms in commerce and industry. The goal of the Foundation is to promote research and understanding of the effects, and the likely future effects, of IT on society. Its areas of investigation include: (3) * the regulation of electronic commerce; * consumer protection; * data protection and privacy; * copyright; * law enforcement; * evidence and archiving; * electronic interaction between government, businesses and individuals; * the extent to which various information technologies discriminate against the less advantaged members of society; and * the new risks that computer and communication systems pose to life, health and economic well-being The Foundation will also provide a valuable resource for the press as it will be able to put journalists in touch with a wide range of experts who can explain IT issues as they arise. Contact: Caspar Bowden (Director of the Foundation) 0171 837 8706 Ross Anderson (Chair of the Foundation) 01223 334733 QUOTES The Director of the Foundation, Caspar Bowden, said: ``The IT policies (and failures) which the current government inherited, and the decisions which will be made by them in the future, will have far-reaching effects on who society's winners and losers will be. We have a duty to prevent technological innovation and development taking place at the expense of the poor, the old, the sick and the disabled. We believe that so long as we understand the social and policy implications of new technical innovations, we can make IT into a means to facilitate social inclusion. The Foundation's mission will be to achieve and to spread that understanding.'' The Managing Director of Microsoft UK, David Svendsen, said: ``It's important that we contribute to a broad and informed public discussion on these information society issues.'' The Chair of the Foundation, Ross Anderson of Cambridge University, said: ``We welcome this new source of funding for IT related research. An increase in the diversity of funding sources is almost always a good thing, and the Foundation will be particularly valuable as much of the available IT funding is directed to very short-term and narrowly technical agendas.'' NOTES (1) The press conference is at the "Scrambling for Safety" conference, at the Bloomsbury Theatre, University College, London. URL: (2) The Foundation's Director and full-time CEO, Caspar Bowden, has for the last three years been running Qualia, a consultancy business specialising in internet implementations. Before that he was a financial strategist with Goldman Sachs. He also researched IT and communications issues for Scientists for Labour. Its chair, Ross Anderson, is a faculty member at Cambridge University Computer Laboratory and has done extensive research on topics related to electronic commerce. BACKGROUND The "Millennium Bug" - the problem that many computers cannot deal correctly with the date roll-over from 1999 to 2000 - threatens to cause havoc with many systems and has been declared a national emergency by the Prime Minister. Another problem that has worried policymakers and concerned citizens is that new developments in IT may discriminate against the less well off members of society. For example, the current mechanisms for electronic commerce depend on consumers using their credit cards to order goods and services over the net. They often get a big discount for buying this way; but people without credit cards may lose out. The first task that the Foundation has set itself is to examine the underpinnings of electronic commerce. The European Commission has recently published a draft Directive on this subject and will launch a period of public consultation at the same conference at which the Foundation itself will be launched. (The draft directive is at [missing].) Other topics which the Foundation plans to investigate include: * the maintenance of public records in electronic form. We do not fully understand how to ensure that word processor files and other electronic documents created today can be safely stored for many years, and reliably made available in the future. This affects not just the new Freedom of Information Act, but also the work of future librarians and historians. * the development of copyright law. There are some industry proposals which would restrict the ability of libraries to lend out digital works. Will this mean the end of the public library, as more and more books, videos and other material become digital? What are the implications for schools and universities? What are the implications for the public, if all major sports events in future are pay-per-view? Are these developments inevitable, or is there something we can do about them? * the introduction of electronic communication between the citizen and the government has the potential to cut queues and the frustration of dealing with people on the phone. However, are these changes intrinsically more likely to favour the articulate, and to bring the most benefit to well-off people with their own computers? What technical developments are reasonably possible to ensure that all citizens get a fair deal? * the previous government's proposal for a "personal signature card" that would give access to all government services had a distinct flavour of an ID card. Are such developments necessary, or can we find workable alternatives? * the police are concerned about the spread of prepaid mobile phones, which are increasingly used by stalkers and extortionists. However, if they are banned, then how would people without credit cards obtain a mobile phone service? * there have been many disputes in the past over "phantom withdrawals" from bank cash machines, and banks have defended themselves by claiming that their computers cannot be wrong. How can this approach work when millions of merchants are selling services through a wide variety of computer systems? What will consumer rights amount to in the information age? * the failure of government computer systems - whether spectacular failure due to the millennium bug, or the continuing sporadic failures in the NHS - does most harm to pensioners, the disabled, single mothers, the unemployed and people on NHS waiting lists (who are typically elderly, female and working class). How can we encourage best engineering practice in the public sector? - - - ends - - Thanks to Danny O'Brien, UK Crypto Story: http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/12624.html Web site under construction: http://www.fipr.org

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Nobody comes up with a great point!
by StanSqncrs＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Unfortunately, he didn't seem to want to share it with the Cypherpunks. Nobody - << >> Of course, I do admit, that I do speak from a left POV. Which one? >> Mine. << There are so many left POVs! >> Correctamundo! We aren't a bunch of brain-washed DittoHeads like the right is. :-) Stan

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KeyNote v0.1 Release Announcement
by Angelos D. Keromytis 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: coderpunks(a)toad.com Subject: KeyNote v0.1 Release Announcement Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: 06/01/98, 15:56:45 KeyNote is a trust-management system, designed on the same principles as PolicyMaker, but simpler and better-defined. This is the first public release, and although the code has been tested, it is by no means guaranteed bug-free (but then, what is). That said, you can get a copy from http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~angelos/keynote-0.1.tar.gz -Angelos PS. From the README file: There should be a real README file here, but in the meantime read draft-angelos-spki-keynote-01.txt for the spec of KeyNote. There's much to be done yet to improve the user interface(s). Signature verification is (deliberately) missing from this release, but the next one will have it. The hooks are obvious in the code (search for XXX in parse_assertion.c). The makefile creates the libkeynote.a library which can be linked with other applications. The program keynote-verify can be used to verify a request, given a set of assertions and an environment. There will be a man page in the next release both for the library and the program, along with some sort of graphical UI to make assertion generation (including signing) easier. For any questions, comments, bug reports, praise, or anything else you have in mind, contact me at angelos(a)dsl.cis.upenn.edu Angelos D. Keromytis May 31 1998 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAwUBNXMHfr0pBjh2h1kFAQElOgP9FyKPDQPvctQyJLl5djz4xj/edgRgQrlb YmqwVQqGrKKC/KrgUbu/A6c/RyqT1l1/nk9U4pONQaJoAtT0pQcgpYISQ2Ji/0JY tG8y+r+WqhWElgUuPxZff5jH5V3mbCDInKoe4BvkE0wwnW7QvwCSVa/nP/Ecs+1e KpiewSL6Ug8= =0f31 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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