December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: ADL
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Re: FC: ADL and CyberPatrol On Wed, 17 Dec 1997 at 00:04:33 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: > From: "David Smith" <bladex(a)bga.com> > To: fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu > Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 21:25:23 +0000 > Subject: Cyber Patrol to Block Hate Speech > > Cyber Patrol to block hate speech > http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,17431,00.html?dtn.head > > Summary -- Cyber Patrol has teamed up with the Anti- > Defamation League to offer a "special version" of sites > reviewed by the ADL. > > Here's the weirdest thing about the story --- if you > access a site on their "hate list" you don't get a block, > but rather you get redirected to the ADL website. > > ... > Blocking access isn't enough -- you will now be told what > to read and what to think about prejudice, bigotry, and > race relations. > > I don't have anything for or against the ADL -- just that > history dictates that this power will be used and abused > to stifle thought and free expression. Much as I agree in principle with counteracting mindless prejudice such as that directed against Jews, and despite the fact that I grew up among Jews and studied with my best friend in grade school when he took his religious lessons, the ADL has zero credibility with me for a very good reason: I had a role in an organization that, while it was populated with a good many bible-thumping Christians, took great care not to encourage, promote or give a platform to voices of unreason. The nature of the organization was political and in no way dealt with religious issues or issues which would find people dividing along any religious or ethnic line. Nonetheless, I was stunned one day to read mention of our organization characterized as "anti-semitic" by the ADL in a national publication. To have provided such erroneous information to the author of the article the ADL either had to have been grossly negligent in its gathering and analysis of facts or had to be pursuing other agenda in using the clout of its pronouncements. I rather think it may have been the latter (the organization was Constitutional and anti-income tax, while the ADL probably harbors more than its share of socialists who bristle at any challenge to the taxing authority of the state). My qualification to judge the ADL's deficiency in this matter was absolute. I had personally written and/or reviewed every piece of literature the organization had published, including newsletters, from its inception. There was no propagation of policy or position with which I was not personally acquainted, and nowhere had the organization ever published anything that could even vaguely be interpreted as anti-semitic. So I regard the ADL with extreme suspicion, not on the vaporous basis of pre-judgement or hearsay but on the solid basis of having been visited with unwarranted and groundless personal damage at their hands, not unlike the small club of people who know the treachery of Sixty Minutes for what it is by personal experience. The ADL does its proclaimed purpose a radical disservice by verging sharply from the straight and narrow that is mandatory in any holier-than-thou endeavor. I would lay down my life for any of a number of my Jewish friends, but I wouldn't give the ADL the time of day even if the Apocalypse were upon us. VeracityMongerII

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Freedom Forum report on the State of the First Amendment
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Tuesday I stopped by the Freedom Forum's conference, where they released a report on the state of the First Amendment. It's worth checking out: http://www.freedomforum.org/newsstand/reports/sofa/intro.asp Each day of this nation's life, in meetings of school boards, library boards, city councils, state legislatures, and Congress itself, figures of respect and renown rise on behalf of a supportive public and proclaim, "I believe in the First Amendment, but" Each such announcement precedes a proposal to regulate our speech in order to elevate our lives. And so we have one of the more equisite ironies of a freedom-loving society: Americans truly believe they believe in free speech. Still, there is always that "but," that qualification of their commitment to the rights and values embedded in those 45 words of the First Amendment. In survey after survey, Americans stand steadfast in support of the general notion of free speech. In the particulars, however, we waver. When asked to countenance the very speech the First Amendment was drawn to protectthe speech of the radical, the rascal, even the revoltingwe become unsure. We do believe in free speech for ourselves, but for the most part we are not so sure about others, especially those whose words offend our taste, threaten our children, or challenge our convictions. Also at the conference: http://www.freedomforum.org/first/1997/12/16sofa.asp Keynote speaker Keen Umbehr told the audience that he lost his job, his community and even family and friends during his First Amendment battle with the county commission in Wabaunsee County, Kansas. Umbehr, who had a contract to haul the county's trash, also wrote editorials for the local newspaper, often alleging violations of law and other misconduct by the county commission. "What I wrote was true, and I could back it up," Umbehr said. "I believed that my constitutional rights were live and real, waiting to be activated. I felt that writing articles and speaking out about the government not only was my right, it was my duty to speak the truth, regardless of the fact that my whole livelihood was based on that county contract." The county terminated his contract in retaliation for his articles. Umbehr sued, and the case went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. In June 1996 the court upheld Umbehr's free-speech rights. "The troops on the front lines of the First Amendment fight desperately need some help," Umbehr told the audience of attorneys, scholars and experts. "You have the knowledge in here, and they need it out there." -Declan

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Crescendo News - Version 3.0 now available
by LiveUpdate News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: message dependent hashcash => no double
by mark＠unicorn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Steve Schear (schear(a)lvdi.net) wrote: >We all know we must affix postage to our snailmail. >Its time to embrace the postal system's paradigm and educate the reminder >of the Net. That's an extremely bad analogy; we're not paying for the Net to carry our mail, because we've already paid our ISP for that. We're paying for remailers to process our mail or for humans to read it. A better analogy would be for snail-junkmail to include a five dollar bill to encourage people to open it rather than junk it unopened. (Of course this really only applies to real digital cash, but that's what hashcash is a substitute for.) Mark

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Re: Hate speech in America
by Aryan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Robert A. Costner" <pooh(a)efga.org> >>I am a German patriot who wants to >>publish my ideas without of fear of the German goverment. >>But my concern is >>that the U. S. ISP I use can hand over my subscriber infoation and logs to >the >>German goverment. >>Does anyone know a U. S. ISP who does not censor hate speech >>and who has a _known_ strong privacy policy? >>By the way, is hate speech >>protected in United States? > >Hate speech is constitutionally protected in the US. That doesn't mean you >can do it from any particular ISP or in someone's living room. You seem to >have found protected email, you should therefore know who to post to >usenet. There are dozens of places you can get free web sites from, though >I don't know about their hate speech policies. I know Geocities, Tripod, Angelfire and few others who provide free web hosting. All these ISPs have policies prohibiting political and sexually explicitly speech on the ground of its content. That's obviously not a First Amendment issue involved. >I'd be curious to know of Geocities, Tripod, et all - where they have >kicked people off or not for hate speech. Yes. They have done so. Geocities is very censorious even regarding politically correct speech such as gay advoccy and Tripod has kickeda homosexual site of for violation of a clause in the agreement concerning "adult" content. I am searching for a commercial ISP who will not censor political speech and who will respect one's privacy. I am not a nazi sympathizer, but I don't believe in the holocaust and want to say it loud. In Germany and in other countries where the Jews have succeeded in creating "hate laws" you can get four years in jail for refusing to believe in the holocaust. I would like to set up a homepage with some "illegal" [within Germany only] content that would not be shut down by the German goverment. I am working on a book exposing the holocaust story that would *surely* be banned in my own "democratic" country. The unfortunate not-so-well-known fact about Germany is that we do not have freedom of speech. I often wonder why Amnesty International did not protest the imprisonment of Gary Lauck who was denied basic due process and human rights, including freedom of speech and association, by a kangoro court. [This message is cross-posted to de.soc.zensur and de.soc.politik to upset my dictatorial goverment].

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Re: Freedom Forum report on the State of the First Amendment (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 19:08:31 -0700 > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Re: Freedom Forum report on the State of the First Amendment > This is part of why the First Amendment is being eroded constantly. It is > seen as a _political_ issue. > > Suppose RealBig Corporation fired Umbehr for his views. Would a First > Amendment issue have arisen? But Tim, governmental systems are *not* businesses, and should not simply as a matter of course be operated as such either. There is more involved than a simple bottem line. Perhaps you should talk to Horatio... ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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CNET Dispatch: gadgets; stop spam; IE 4.0 feedback (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 17:50:32 -0800 > From: CNET Digital Dispatch <dispatch(a)CNET.com> > Subject: CNET Dispatch: gadgets; stop spam; IE 4.0 feedback > To: DISPATCH(a)DISPATCH.CNET.COM > > CNET Digital Dispatch: gadgets; stop spam; IE 4.0 feedback > December 18, 1997 > > ******************************************* > Good things come in the mail...like cool portable computers, > mega speaker systems, and little digital cameras. Want more? > See our lead story this week, the "Geek's guide to gadgets" > (item 1). > > Unfortunately, bad things can come in the mail, too, such as > pointless junk mail and chain letters. Fortunately, you can > take control. This week's feature on stopping spam (item 2) > has our top tips. > > Rafe Needleman > Editor, CNET.COM > rafe_needleman(a)cnet.com ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Oh Boy! I just read Sheiner's Applied Cryptography, and I am ready to *do some code*!!! > > I would like to participate in the Coderpunks list. Can someone send me > information about the list. I am particularly interested in the current > discussion on Crypto Kong. > > Thanks, > -- > Matthew Cromer > > matthew_cromer(a)iname.com > > --

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17 Dec '03

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Is Unix dying--or even dead?
by S. M. Halloran 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From Edupage, 18 December 1997: <----------> TACTICAL SHIFT BY WORKSTATION COMPANIES Silicon Graphics Inc.'s plan to allow SGI graphics software to run on Microsoft's Windows NT operating system provides new evidence that a growing number of companies are giving up on Unix and instead standardizing on Windows NT. SGI hopes to be able to use its experience in developing high-end graphics software without having to spend a great deal of time building the underlying technology represented by an operating system. (Washington Post 17 Dec 97) <---------->

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