December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Planetary rovers, SETI and other musings, was Re: update.356 (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:34:48 -0800 > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Re: Planetary rovers, SETI and other musings, was Re: update.356 > (fwd) > Nothing in quantum teleportation has been shown to propagate signals faster > than light. (If you don't believe me, look into it. Start by reading the > FTL discussions about Bell's Theorem.) The actual transportation of the state is instantanious as it must be by quantum theory, just as the change in orbits of an electron occurs instantly. However, the catch is that the command/synchronization channel must be sent in parallel and it at some point can't use the quantum transportation technique and hence the speed-of-light comes back into play. This was specificaly discussed in the original quantum transportation announcement sent out by AIP. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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RE: Latest Clinton dodge?
by Jonathan Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Years ago, when Clinton was primarily known for his frequent patronage of McDonalds, he was affectionately known as "Mr. JoeBlob." With the current sex scandal(s), you can turn that around and it still fits...

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Re: State of the Union Address
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Well, if it was 40 grams of NaOH and 36.5 grams of HCl, then you >would have 18 grams of water and 58.5 grams of NaCl. With 1g HCl to >.5g NaOH, well, you have an acidic, salty, mess. However, HCl >is a gas at STP, and NaOH is a solid... > >Basically, it's an incredibly poorly worded question. It looks like the original poster grabbed two of the simplest acids and bases he could find and plugged them into the question. HCl is usually provided in an aqueous solution. NaOH is a solid. In those two states they'll combine quite well with each other. The "explosion and a big mess" would come from somebody just chucking a lot of both chemicals together without any regard what is going on. I think Anonymous was more interested in what products were produced and how much of each were produced, and then made the mistake of assuming that the chemist had enough brains not to go chuck two reactive chemicals together without the competence to run through the necessary calculations. Throwing together any amount of any chemicals without knowing what you're doing is a very bad idea. It's a good way to "accidentally" produce chlorine gas, carbon monoxide, or worse. If you don't know what you're doing or you aren't at least minimally competent and take appropriate safety precautions, keep it on paper. Personally, I steer clear of college and high school chemistry labs for this reason. I watched some idiot produce chlorine gas back in high school, though thankfully not in any really, really dangerous quantities. NaOH + HCl ---> NaCl + H O 2 It's a nice, simple reaction. To answer the question the student would have to know the atomic masses of chlorine, hydrogen, oxygen, and sodium, but that could easily be gleaned off a periodic table provided the student was competent enough to ask for one if he needed it. I doubt most college chemistry professors would analyze it that well either, to tell you the truth. They'd give the question and it's assumed that the necessary steps are taken to ensure a reaction (if any). Of course "normal circumstances" is kind of a wide area. The question should have been worded more like this: 11) Michelle mixes one gram of HCl and one half gram of NaOH. The HCl is dissolved in water. Assuming that Michelle is competent enough to avoid blowing herself across the room or destroying the lab, what are the products and in what quantities are they produced?

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RE: FW: Symantec Norton, Your Eyes Only.
by Pearson Shane 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi guys, If I could get access to the source, understand all of it fully, and understand how it will act under Win95 with whatever compiler they used, I could probably write my own. So I guess it comes down to trust. Thanks for the replies. Bye for now. > -----Original Message----- > From: David Honig [SMTP:honig@otc.net] > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 1998 5:08 AM > To: Pearson Shane; 'William H. Geiger III' > Cc: 'cypherpunks(a)toad.com' > Subject: RE: FW: Symantec Norton, Your Eyes Only. > > At 03:46 PM 1/23/98 +1100, Pearson Shane wrote: > >Hi William, > > > >Many thanks for the reply. > > > >I was hoping it was ok having Blowfish, > >but I guess it could be their own > >"efficient" version. > > > >Bye for now. > > > > WHGIII gave you the most conservative answer. That is, in cryptology, > the > correct answer. > > A more detailed analysis would say: > > * the blowfish algorithm is considered strong for various reasons > > * IFF the Norton program were written correctly > (not just the algorithm implementation, but key hiding, > worrying about getting swapped onto disk by the OS, etc.) > then it would be a useful tool for security. > > * Without examining the source, any assumption of security > from using the tool relies *absolutely* on your trust of the > implementor. > > (In a Turing award paper, Ritchie described how you > implicitly must trust your compiler-writers too.. the > compiler could have clandestine functions like inserting > extra code when it recognizes patterns) > > So you see how WHGIII was correct, although for practical > purposes (depending on the value of your data and the > attackers you anticipate, plus the security of the rest of your > system (only as strong as the weakest link)) you may find this tool > acceptable > in the non-exportable version. Keylength-limited versions are > worthless > from a security viewpoint. > > But on this mailing list, you won't find the yes/no answer > you probably want. Which is probably correct behavior for this list. > > Cheers, > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > David Honig Orbit Technology > honig(a)otc.net Intaanetto Jigyoubu > > "The tragedy of Galois is that he could have contributed so much > more to mathematics if he'd only spent more time on his marksmanship." > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Clinton for Nobel Peace Prize [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Clinton Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize > > OSLO, Norway (Reuters) - President Clinton, engulfed in asex scandal > and fighting for his political life, won anomination Tuesday for the > 1998 Nobel Peace Prize from admirersof his foreign policy. > [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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RE: More dumb ad sites for your killfile
by Pearson Shane 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi all, Can I have a killfile for Outlook 97 or am I limited to the Inbox assistant? Thanks, > -----Original Message----- > From: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com [SMTP:dlv@bwalk.dm.com] > Sent: Monday, January 26, 1998 5:50 PM > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Re: More dumb ad sites for your killfile > > nobody(a)REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) writes: > > ads.lycos.com > > ad.doubleclick.net > > ads.altavista.digital.com > > ad.preferences.com > > ph-ad*.focalink.com > > www.news.com/Banners > > ads.lycos.com > > static.wired.com/advertising > > A desirable feature for a proxy would be to filter portions of what it > gets. > If we're getting a URL that matches a pattern (like > www.stocks.hotshit.com) > then once we see a certain pattern in the HTML (start of embedded ad), > excise the HTML until we see another pattern. A set of triples. > > My block file so far is much bigger than yours. Anyone cares to keep > the > official big blocklist? :-) > > ********************************************************************** > **** > victory.cnn.com/(image|click).ng/ > /fox/graphics/yuppie.gif > ads.web.aol.com > /*/rsac.jpg > /gifs/ads/ > webtrack.com > # look for guesttrack > /.*/rsacirated.gif > /shell-cgi/adserv/ads > /adserver/ > /ad-graphics/ > /cgi-win/tracker > /cgi-bin/Count > /cgi-bin/guesttrack > webcrawler.com/icons/(tenants.*|bottom_logo).gif > netads.*.com/ > mckinley.com/img/magellan/butnbar.gif > #hotbot.com > hotbot.com/images/list.*.gif > # > banner-net.com/ > /cgi-bin/nph-count > # yahoo > /us.yimg.com/images/compliance/ > # Internet explorer logos > /.*/ie.*_(animated|static|sm).gif > /.*/netnow.*.gif > pagecount.com > gm.preferences.com > # da Silva's stupid list of mailing lists > /internet/paml/sponsors > /gifs/mlogo3.gif > #dejanews > /gifs/tripod.gif > /gifs/browsers.gif > /gifs/dnlogo_r.*.gif > # domains > smartclicks.com/ > resource-marketing.com/ > valueclick.com/ > bannermall.com/ > iname.com/ > bannerweb.com/ > eads.com/ > /interdex/reciprocal/ > /cgi-bin/spim/sp/ > adforce..*.com/ > /cgi-bin/adclick > imageserv.imgis.com/images/ > /g/ads/ > # > /graphics/ads/ > /OAS/ugo/adstream.cgi/ > /content/cgi-bin/clickad/ > /content/advertising/ > /.*/(S|s)ponsors/.*.gif > /cgi-bin/pn/show_ad > /gif/ads/ > .*banner.*.gif > /ad/ > /adgenius/ > /adproof/ > /(A|a)ds/ > /adv/ > /advertising/ > /adverts/ > /avimages/ > /banner_ds/ > /banners/ > /banners?/ > /CategoryID=0 > /cgi-bin/ad-bin/ > /cgi-bin/adroll/ > /cgi-bin/counter* > /cgi-bin/nph-adlick > /event.ng/ > /gfx/spon/ > /gifs/netfinity.gif > /gifs/tripod2.gif > /graphics/pcast.gif > /graphicsadvert > /image/ads/ > /images/ABCnewsa.gif > /images/ads/ > /images/deckad1.gif > /images/getpoint1.gif > /images/nyyahoo.gif > /images/partners/ > /images/promo/ > /img/ads/ > /img/art4/home/promo/ > /inserts/images/ > /ml/gfx/spon/ > /pictures/sponsors/ > /promobar > /promos/ > /promotions/ > /RealMedia/ads/ > /shared/images/marketing/ > /sponsor.*/.*.gif > 209.25.19.47/ > :23 > ad.*.com/ > adserve.*.com/ > ad.*.net/ > adcount.hollywood.com/ > ads*.focalink.com/ > ads.*.com/ > bannersolutions.com/ > bannerswap.com/ > counter.digits.com/ > digits.com/ > doubleclick.com/ > flycast.com/ > freestats.com/ > globaltrack.com/ > globaltrack.net/ > gp.dejanews.com/ > guide.infoseek.com/ > infoseek.com/images/channel/ > hitbox.com/ > hollynxxx.com/ > icount.com/ > jcount.com/ > linkexchange.com/ > register-it.com > riddler.com/ > sexhound.com/ > sexlist.com/ > stattrax.com/ > style.rahul.net/altavista/adverts/ > # Geocities > www.geocities.com/cgi-bin/homestead/GeoGuideLite_image* > geocities.com/MemberBanners > xpagecount.com/ > xxxcounter.com/ > ********************************************************************** > **** > More stuff that I need to sort out: > > adsmart.net > doubleclick.net > SmartBanner > imageserv.imgis.com/images > images.yahoo.com/adv > /ad_client.cgi > > # ms sucks ! > /*.*/(ms)?backoff(ice)?.*.(gif|jpe?g) > /*.*/(msie|sqlbans|powrbybo|activex|backoffice|explorer|netnow|getpoin > t|ntbutton|hmlink).*.(gif|jpe?g) > /*.*/activex.*(gif|jpe?g) > /*.*/explorer?.(gif|jpe?g) > /*.*/freeie.(gif|jpe?g) > /*.*/ie_?(buttonlogo|static?|anim.*)?.(gif|jpe?g) > /*.*/ie_sm.(gif|jpe?g) > /*.*/msie(30)?.(gif|jpe?g) > /*.*/msnlogo.(gif|jpe?g) > /*.*/office97_ad1.(gif|jpe?g) > /*.*/pbbobansm.(gif|jpe?g) > /*.*/powrbybo.(gif|jpe?g) > /*.*/sqlbans.(gif|jpe?g) > > # generally useless information and promo stuff (commented out) > #/*.*/(counter|getpcbutton|BuiltByNOF|netscape|hotmail|vcr(rated)?|rsa > ci(rated)?|freeloader|cache_now(_anim)?|apache_pb|now_(anim_)?button|i > e_?(buttonlogo|static?|.*ani.*)?).(gif|jpe?g) > > #------------------------ > # > # specific servers > # > #------------------------ > 193.158.37.3/cgi-bin/impact > 193.210.156.114 > 194.231.79.38 > 199.78.52.10 > 204.253.46.71:1977 > 204.94.67.40/wc/ > 205.216.163.62 > 205.217.103.58:1977 > 205.217.103.58:1977 > 206.50.219.33 > 207.159.135.72 > 207.82.250.9 > 209.1.135.144:1971 > 209.1.135.142:1971 > ad-up.com > ads?.*\.(com|net) > ad.adsmart.net > ad.doubleclick.net > ad.infoseek.com > ad.linkexchange.com > ad.preferences.com > adbot.com > adbot.theonion.com > adcount.hollywood.com > adforce.imgis.com > adlink.deh.de > adone.com > ads*.focalink.com > ads*.zdnet.com > ads.csi.emcweb.com > ads.imagine-inc.com > ads.imdb.com > ads.infospace.com > ads.lycos.com > ads.narrowline.com > ads.realmedia.com > ads.softbank.net/bin/wadredir > ads.usatoday.com > ads.washingtonpost.com > ads.web.aol.com > ads.web21.com > adservant.mediapoint.de > banners.internetextra.com > bannerswap.com > bs.gsanet.com/gsa_bs/ > ciec.org/images/countdown.gif > click1.wisewire.com > click2.wisewire.com > clickii.imagine-inc.com:1964 > commonwealth.riddler.com > customad.cnn.com > cyberfirst1.web.cerf.net/image.ng/ > digits.com/wc/ > dino.mainz.ibm.de > flycast.com/ > globaltrack.com > globaltrak.net > gm.preferences.com/image.ng > gtp.dejanews.com/gtplacer > hardware.pagecount.com/ > hitbox.com/wc/ > hyperbanner.net > icount.com/.*.count > images.yahoo.com/promotions/ > imageserv.imgis.com > impartner.de/cgi-bin > linktrader.com/cgi-bin/ > logiclink.nl/cgi-bin/ > movielink.com/media/imagelinks/MF.(ad|sponsor) > nrsite.com > nt1.imagine-inc.com > nt2.imagine-inc.com > nytsyn.com/gifs > pagecount.com/aa-cgi-bin > pagecount.com/aa-cgi-bin > ph-ad*.focalink.com > promo.ads.softbank.net > resource-marketing.com/tb/ > smartclicks.com/.*/smartimg > smh.com.au/adproof/ > sysdoc.pair.com/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/sysdoc/sponsor.gif > victory.cnn.com/image.ng/spacedesc > videoserver.kpix.com > w20.hitbox.com > www..bigyellow.com/......mat.* > www.ads.warnerbros.com > www.fxweb.holowww.com/.*.cgi > www.iadventure.com/adserver/ > www.infoworld.com/pageone/gif > www.isys.net/customer/images > www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-ad > www.link4link.com/cgi-bin > www.mediashower.com/ad-bin/ > www.nedstat.nl/cgi-bin/ > www.nj.com/adverts > www.nrsite.com > www.pagecount.com/aa-cgi-bin > www.search.com/Banners > www.smartclicks.com:81 > www.swwwap.com/cgi-bin/ > www.valueclick.com/cgi-bin/ > www.websitepromote.com/partner/img/ > www.wishing.com/webaudit > yahoo.com/CategoryID=0 > > #------------------------ > # > # some images on servers that I frequently visit > # > #------------------------ > > # some images on cnn's website just suck! > /*.*/book.search.gif > /*.*/cnnpostopinionhome..gif > /*.*/custom_feature.gif > /*.*/explore.anim.*gif > /*.*/infoseek.gif > /*.*/pathnet.warner.gif > /BarnesandNoble/images/bn.recommend.box.* > /digitaljam/images/digital_ban.gif > /hotstories/companies/images/companies_banner.gif > /markets/images/markets_banner.gif > /ows-img/bnoble.gif > /ows-img/nb_Infoseek.gif > cnnfn.com/images/left_banner.gif > > # die sueddeutsche > /*.*/images/artszonnet.jpg > > # yahoo.de > /promotions/bankgiro/ > > # > /gif/buttons/banner_.* > /gif/buttons/cd_shop_.* > /gif/cd_shop/cd_shop_ani_.* > > #altavista > /av/gifs/av_map.gif > /av/gifs/av_logo.gif > > /*.*/banner_ads/ > /*.*/banners?/ > /*.*/images/addver.gif > /*.*/place-ads > /*.*/promobar.* > /*.*/publicite/ > /*.*/reklame/ > /*.*/sponsor.gif > /*.*/sponsors?[0-9]?/ > /*.*/werb\..* > /ad_images/ > /bin/nph-oma.count/ct/default.shtml > /bin/nph-oma.count/ix/default.html > /cgi-bin/nph-load > /netscapeworld/nw-ad/ > /worldnet/ad.cgi > /rotads/ > /rotateads/ > /rotations/ > /promotions/houseads/ > ********************************************************************** > **** > > --- > > Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM > Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, > 14.4Kbps

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Fw: Congratulations, Bill, You've WON! Netscape Recommends Explorer!
by amp＠pobox.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FYI. ------------------------ From: Linda Thompson <lindat(a)megacity.org> Subject: Congratulations, Bill, You've WON! Netscape Recommends Explorer! Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:04:00 -0600 To: amp(a)pobox.com Cc: news(a)aen.org, chat(a)aen.org Will you please forward this to cypherpunks and anyplace else that might find it interesting? Thanks. Today, I called Netscape because of a problem with it being unable to play .wav files on a webpage (without a plug-in). I am using Netscape Gold 3.03. I won't get 3.04 after reading about it's new "fixes" that say NOT to use a ~ for webpage addresses, but instead, to use /./ -- Is anyone in their right mind going to try that on their webpages? I've got about 40 megs of webpages and I'm NOT going to reconfigure them because Netscape's programmers are a bunch of jackasses. I configured Netscape's helper applications menu to use mplayer, which is bundled with Windows, and then tried to use it to browse my own webpage, with a .wav file on it. (1) Netscape would not save the configuration of mplayer in the helper applications settings. Mplayer would stay in the configuration for that session, but upon exiting to DOS and reloading Windows and Netscape, the setting would no longer be present. (2) If I didn't check to see that mplayer was still set up in the Netscape helper applications configuration, and browsed the page with the .wav file, I would get a message from Netscape "Unable to play .wav file." In the meantime, Netscape WIPED OUT all my sound drivers in memory. They were still present in the windows/system directory, but had to be (1) reloaded through Windows Utilities; (2) reloaded through Soundblaster utilities in DOS and (3) I had to do a cold reboot to get them to work again. THEN I found that the volume on the mixer that comes with Windows, had been set to "0" by Netscape. Since I could duplicate these results, repeatedly, it appeared to be a bug. I called Netscape about it. GRADY WILSON AT NETSCAPE TOLD ME TO USE INTERNET EXPLORER. First he told me to reinstall Netscape (already did that). Then he told me to get Netscape 3.04. I told him I wouldn't and I wanted to know why Netscape out of the box, which is SUPPOSED to play a .wav file, wouldn't play a .wav file and wouldn't save the configuration. He said it would, and I said obviously it doesn't, or I wouldn't be calling, and why else would Netscape have to have a blue million "plug ins." Next he said "mplayer" was corrupt (it isn't and works fine, even with Netscape, so long as Netscape hasn't yet deleted its own configuration setting mplayer to play .wav files). I told him this. That is when GRADY WILSON AT NETSCAPE TOLD ME TO USE INTERNET EXPLORER. So, congratulations, Bill, you've won. NETSCAPE ITSELF is now telling people to get Explorer. ************ V ***************** DEATH TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER ********************************** Remember Waco. The Murderers are still free (and running YOUR country.) See the proof: http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum ********************************* My son, David, has been missing since Sept. 19, 1997. Please help us find him. ---------------End of Original Message----------------- === E-mail: amp(a)pobox.com Date: 01/28/98 Time: 06:45:54 Visit me at http://www.pobox.com/~amp -export-a-crypto-system-sig -RSA-3-lines-PERL #!/bin/perl -sp0777i<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<j]dsj $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$k"SK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp"|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/) Have you seen http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum ===

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Nanotechnology info on the Web (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From owner-traveller(a)Phaser.ShowCase.MPGN.COM Wed Jan 28 12:34:55 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: phaser.Showcase.MPGN.COM: majordom set sender to owner-traveller(a)lists.MPGN.COM using -f From: Dedly <Dedly(a)aol.com> Message-ID: <c888b1a2.34cf74b7(a)aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:11:00 EST To: traveller(a)mpgn.com Subject: Nanotechnology info on the Web Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-traveller(a)Phaser.ShowCase.MPGN.COM Reply-To: traveller(a)mpgn.com If any of you are interested in what's going on in nanotechnology these days...... www.nanothinc.com They're trying to be an all-encompassing resource on nanotechnology. Although this industry is in its infancy, there's some really interesting things going on. Regarding the site itself: It helps to have a high speed modem as there are alot of graphics. They also play with a bit of shockwave so it would help to have that plug-in as well. \_/ DED

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No Subject
by BOUSTANI 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello Frank, My is Jacques BOUSTANI , I live in Paris & i'm a student in computer science. I learn about you from my teacher. I think he doesn't know you or talk to you but he tell us about how to cracked windows 95 .pwl or NT. So i'm interested. I would like to know how to do it. If you won't to tell me, by the way i thanks you. I hope that your reply would interest me .* Thanks Mr Stevenson. 3BBC SYSTEM BOUSTANI PARIS

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Re: Planetary rovers, SETI and other musings, was Re: update.356 (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:44:50 -0800 > From: Steve Schear <schear(a)lvdi.net> > Subject: Re: Planetary rovers, SETI and other musings, was Re: update.356 > (fwd) > I guess I'm over my head in such matters. From my, admitedly, shallow > understanding of wave function collapse, etc., I was under the apparent > misimpression that once collapsed (e.g., by Alice entangling a 'modulation' > photon M (of a known polarization) with one member (photon A) of an > entangled pair, one of which was sent to Alice and the other (photon B) > which was sent to Bob, photon B's polarization state was determined and > could not subsequently be altered by Bob's measurement with his receiver. > Could you recommend a good article which explain this paradox to a > non-quantum mechanic? The state is determined *at the time of collapse*. Once the collapse occurs the synchronization is no longer present and subsequent events can indeed alter the polarization of one particle without altering the other. Simply bouncing that photon via refraction off a surface can alter the polarization. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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