December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Robinson CypherPunk
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> ====================================================== > Q. How long did the real Robinson Crusoe live on that > desert island? > A. Alexander Selkirk? Nine years. In 1703, the old pirate > got mad at his ship's master, one Capt. William Dampier, > and jumped overboard. Slept that night on the beach. Next > morning he hailed the ship, but the captain just laughed > at him and set sail. It was the same Capt. Dampier who > saw Selkirk's campfire smoke nine years later and sent a > boat ashore. Selkirk was still mad. Madder. Took two days > to talk him into going aboard. > ============================================== > LMBoyd Web Site / U. S. Newspapers / Start Email / Stop Email > http://www.LMBoyd.com/postscript.htm

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If you fought to defend your country...
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

...you fit the 'profile' of the OKC bomber. Be afraid...be very afraid. TruthMonger

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At night, the ice weasels come...
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.pretext.com/nov97/short3.htm "Don't get me wrong. I'm not a technophobe. I just think people need to practice safe surfing," Cottrell says. "In some ways the Anonymizer is the virtual condom." From: 'The Anonymizer'--by Clay Hathorn

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:04 PM 11/29/97 -0500, you wrote: >> >> Proof, please. >> >> [I've verified that Dave filters out "poltically incorrect" messages sent >> to the cypherpunks list, while permitting harrassment of Dr. Grubor] >> > >Harrasment of Dr. Grubor will be a demonstration sport during the next >Olympic Winter Games. > Please send the pictures. AOLNewbieBinaryMonger

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Re: The Illusion of Freedom
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Nerthus wrote: >>"Okay soldier, let's see that pass!" Is this the treatment accorded >>to a free man? > >Clearly not. Let me rephrase what I said since it appears it was not >as obvious as I had thought. > >Those who wage war (the politicians/"kings") are rarely the slaves. >Those who die (the soldiers/citizens) usually are. Oh, I see what you mean now. Thanks for the explanation. >The soldiers and citizens are the pawns and other chessmen on the >chessboard who are sacrificed to protect the king of their color >while attempting to checkmate the king of the other color. All >chessmen are expendable, except the two kings. When one of the kings >is checkmated, the game is over. Leaving the loser to slouch off toward Doorn, St. Helena, or Asuncion to die. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNHuFEZaWtjSmRH/5AQGwGQf+JSwEqXrgjYRcCmBpsHP/IU0SUbjaoekk 0oqF+dvY0QCtf3NwSYKClLg+vB+lIjRYR6qqgr2wvnVGyElC1A2VJUjjuUuvb1BH 27Uu2ldFFKfg4S715TpgktkysuuldqEMWfClJfgNkLFB3whjbSRWZhqQwWdDhnkB sHxj5RbFWZ0yWTcBc0v6Z+NPEok0zMWIkyg3Reazprjjgpn1vxdZMLLmSz9iK0gO tmhASDQ6et9APOzakbH9+pcsLutvkH/LGmwbkadL2DxD3Mlp2xNylOIUBbzPO0yX qbnvkEy01pw+6M/D9C6GIKyIHlubiIvOHCYv8EQSNAbDc3+KNQQusA== =JniS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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This would also explain AOL...
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.pretext.com/nov97/short4.htm Mark Grimes: "Why do 39,440 people a month look up "Yahoo" on Yahoo!? Maybe too many ate lead paint as children." A recent compilation of the 200 most popular keywords submitted to the Yahoo! Search engine offers some insights about the types of individuals that prowl the Web. "Baywatch" babe Pam Anderson racked up 172,760 inquiries in a recent month to place 12th--two places behind "weather," 10 places ahead of "Microsoft," and 92 slots before "Bob Dole." Janet Reno could fine Pamela an inch a day until she ranks equally with Bob Dole, as a sex symbol. (3,000,000 places ahead of Reno.) Good News: "Metallica" (59) finished just ahead of "real estate" and "stock quotes"; at No. 82 "anal sex" was just before "cars" and "USA Today." Bad News: "Days of Our Lives" (91) came up more frequently than "marijuana" (93) and "Beatles" (111)." Huh?: The top 50: sex, chat, Playboy, Netscape software, nude, porno, games, porn, weather, Penthouse, Pamela Anderson, pornography, pussy, Persian Kitty, maps, Halloween, music, adult, chat rooms, erotica, Microsoft, jokes, shareware, magazines, pictures, employment, jobs, erotic, gay, Jenny McCarthy, Netscape, bondage, lingerie, hardcore, Cindy Crawford, Hustler, ESPN, supermodels, Disney, Star Wars, girls, movies, Star Trek, mIRC, genealogy, screen savers, Japan, soccer, and tits. I suppose that a more cynical mind than mine might make much of the fact that the comma between 'Microsoft' and 'jokes' may well be a 'typo'. As to why both mentions of Netscape's name are followed by a plethora of requests for information on various forms of sexual perversion, I would like to point out that I am not the *only* person who uses Netscape and Yahoo, so it obviously could not be *totally* due to my search habits. TruthMonger

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Business Loans For You
by loans＠xitau.de 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Another Anti-Privacy Bigot Heard From (was: The Guilmette/Burnore deba
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

gburnore(a)netcom.com (Gary L. Burnore) wrote: > : The only exception I see is if > : someone threatens the life or wellbeing of another. Then I can understand > : why someone that posts anonymously should get into trouble. > > So when someone posting anonymously makes statements about YOU that are > outright lies what will you say? Will you consider that part of your > exception (falling under the well being of another) or will it be under the > protection from the government part? > > You totally missed his point and turned it into a freedom of speech thing. > > Well guess what bozo, it's NOT within someone's rights to post lies about > another person. THAT's why it's being done anonymously. It's not fear of the > government that's keeping the anon asshole anonymous. It's knowing that if > his/her identity is discovered, he/she could be held accountable for the > _LIES_. What part do you expect the goverment to play in this scenario, though? Shall they establish an "Internet Truth Police" squad? The problem is, for just about every accusation there is another voice saying that the first accusation is false and counter-accusing that the original accuser is a "filthy rotten liar". Neither of these rival accusations deserves to be believed without supporting evidence. It's obvious that when you refer to one party in a debate as an "anon asshole" that your mind is already made up and you're really afraid of hearing all the facts. It is evident that there are a far larger number of NON-anonymous "assholes" on the net. Such ad hominem anti-privacy bigotry only betrays the weakness of your position. Ideas can stand on their own and if you must resort to an ad hominem smear campaign to make your point, you are already well on your way to losing the debate. Are you implying that if an "anonymous asshole" were to say, for example, that the world is flat that you'd prefer to know the person's name so that you could dig up dirt to smear him with rather than simply refuting his IDEA? Why do I get the impression that your modus operandi is to intimidate potential opponents into remaining silent rather than refuting their ideas in reasoned, rational debate? To anyone who hates privacy so much, I'd invite them to post their snail mail address, home phone number, Social Security number, and date of birth lest they likewise be accused of "hiding" something. Most are too hypocritical to do so, of course. --

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Digital Signatures
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

You can't see it up here, but this is a signed message using a protocol which is modestly titled "Cantsin Protocol No. 1". Suggestions for improvement are most welcome. At the bottom of this message you will find a series of hexadecimal numbers expressed in ASCII which comprise the signature. I considered using ASCII armor or uuencode to store the information, but the straight numbers are easier to work with. That is, the components of the signature are easily manipulated using off the shelf tools such as Perl. Also, because certain numbers are freely accessible, the message is easy to filter without necessarily calling other programs. It makes it easy to find signed messages using search engines which are not necessarily aware of encryption protocol formats. Having the numbers exposed has a nice feel. It lets you see exactly what is going on. It encourages people to investigate the meaning of the numbers and to think about the information a signature really conveys. Cantsin Protocol No. 1 uses El Gamal to sign hashes generated by SHA1. Executive summary of the signature format: <Cantsin Protocol No. 1 code> <comments> <SHA1 hash of public key components> <SHA1 hash of message> <offset> <length> <a> <b> The first line is "16A5942B6EED349ECF4594C784DFD177 [Cantsin Protocol No. 1]". The hexadecimal number was chosen randomly and is the indicator that this is a Cantsin Protocol No. 1 signature. The number was chosen randomly and it is somewhat unlikely that anybody else will accidently choose it. The text following the number is just there so a human reading it will know what they are looking at. No program should rely on that text. The signature begins where the code (i.e., "16A59...") begins - it need not be preceded by a newline. (It can be used to sign anything, in other words.) The public portion of an El Gamal key consists of three variables p, g, and y. p is a large prime, g is a randomly chosen number, and y is computed using the secret key. (See "Applied Cryptography" for the details. I'm using Schneier's nomenclature.) Monty Cantsin's public authentication key is: p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g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y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his key should not be used for communication. It is not very well secured. Also, I like Adam Back's assertion that authentication keys should be different from communications keys.) The second line in the signature is an SHA1 hash of the public key. The hash is computed on the concatenation of the hexadecimal ASCII forms of p, g, and y respectively. There should be no leading zeros. (Remember to leave off the newline!) The third line is an SHA1 hash of the message itself. The fourth line contains an offset and a length to specify the area of the text which is signed. The offset is relative to the signature itself. That is, the first character of the Cantsin Protocol No. 1 code is at position 0. As signatures are usually appended, the offset will usually be the additive inverse of the length. This is an unobtrusive and highly flexible signature format. No text is modified to accommodate the protocol. No information needs to be prepended to the text. This means that signing a document only makes it longer at the end - the area a reader cares the least about. You can sign as often as you like and it won't really matter that much. This protocol could be used to sign The Declaration of Independence. Not only that, but it is possible to be highly selective in what is signed. The user could sign a portion of a message without modifying or sabotaging other signatures. It is completely compatible with other signature formats. Not only can you sign the subset of text which another user signed, but signatures can even overlap. The last two lines are the signatures themselves. El Gamal signatures consist of two values which Schneier calls "a" and "b". Note that the signature does not contain a time stamp! Users who want time stamps can add one in the text. El Gamal is simple enough that the signature on this message can be checked using standard Unix tools such as dc version 1.1. Let's say M is the SHA1 hash of the message. It is checked by verifying the truth of this equation: (y^a * a^b) mod p = g^M mod p. (dc version 1.1 has an | operator which is used to compute equations of the from a^b mod n like: a b n |. The left side of the equation will be easier to compute if you compute ((y^a mod p) * (a^b mod p)) mod p instead.) You also need to be able to compute SHA1 hashes. I've been using something called "sha1file" which, I believe, originated at Adam Back's web site. I have some crude tools for making and verifying these signatures, but they still need work. At some point they will be released into the public domain. Aside from ordinary message signing, there are at least two good uses for these signatures. One is for timestamping services. Since the signature is unobtrusive, it would be easy to route a message to all known timestamping services. The timestamp can only fail if all timestamping services fail. Yet, the message would still be completely readable without any garbage at the top. Another is for authenticating messages from the distributed cypherpunks mailing list machines. Right now it would be somewhat ugly to have all three machines signing every message. But, with this protocol it just makes each message a little longer. This would prevent certain kinds of attack and make it harder to exploit a compromise of any of the mailing list machines. (It's harder because an undeniable trail of inconsistency is left even if the compromiser has the power to sign messages at will.) Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm Subject: Digital Signatures To: cypherpunks(a)algebra.com 16A5942B6EED349ECF4594C784DFD177 [Cantsin Protocol No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Hi
by kirby＠daltek.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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