December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Join the NIA
by Brian D Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The NIA.... Yes the National Internet Association....... Patterned after you know who..... I'm not kidding, I think it's time. "Privacy Through Cryptography." "Communicate Globally, Censor Locally." I think an old Doonesbury cartoon that had Duke (representing the NRA) testifying before a Senate subcommittee summed it up nicely..... Senator: "And we and the American people have had enough of you and your fanatic organization!" Duke: " I see Senator, shall I put you down for a million postcards?" Senator: " Don't you threaten me mister!" Politicians only understand one thing. Brian D Williams "I am the NIA." - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAy7eA7wAAAEEAJgUoJWlE/7ntxpdfFKJC0EIx1nPmOrfBkIz3N/qyqPsqY6A WJ9jx1oNow8sMjFPET6kbMw2cScfVOUisekK7xVQWuADUPscRXg8zI3x0ws9z2KV ITL+cO7zODIA1+wZS8v14RJpG4dXF1Q9YsydU8T5bodAcsF5TnsfmVh/uI7xAAUR tChCcmlhbiBEIFdpbGxpYW1zIDx0YWxvbjU3QHdlbGwuc2YuY2EudXM+ =moCK - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMRpVE3sfmVh/uI7xAQEJhQP/Y5ze19vV+Mvdsq5Ep6nr/hNrMldjSSnZ 8qfXupCkIANIzivqFOiFG+qxXH4UPBZyzklnn3uOkPGewaoNJ2MDnhXCBhWHR0/y +T2Br/nnkIOsyx6wCFMISeKj9oJxqdTd3uZ1hZw8yAfbZqNB755wRsHEK2VQTwzP rwlOgPDC7q4= =3Iya -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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"Plonk"
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Why do people feel the need to announce to the whole world that they have just plonked someone? Big deal. It happens all the time. Plonk 'em and get on with your life.

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New Type2.list/pubring.mix
by John A. Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Everyone, The new type2.list/pubring.mix combination can be found on vishnu.alias.net. Both are available by anonymous FTP and by WWW. Please note the new addition, mockingbird.alias.net. Welcome aboard mockingbird! John Perry - KG5RG - perry(a)vishnu.alias.net - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! WWW - http://www.alias.net PGP 2.62 key for perry(a)vishnu.alias.net is on the keyservers. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQEVAwUBMRplRqghiWHnUu4JAQFtIQf/VaUPHx7bRJP1tdtOQABqy2gYMNIvK8LH elOX1gmDjvhDBxVMA3iyn7nWpgoP4ty87mDNU4bFRDX8yqz3RjdLFkUvYKZCgWIN qWMKPRqIDycGELI5Z+tvby7MnxtRgpm9qTB4SR/4RXIkVIJyrZ9BR/3dFSNtKUgr mfYCPfw2qDd4ZCZXLrQwooNCExp0VA1PP8TuGtTPP/QyDVPOJj5sggQIDTSWd/F7 Rm3h9FmvSTJ7cEaXk0v3OkmwkgzlrS7tJP/XjaX+Vky8yllXh2UuFx4K4s6DhosT a4MPoQen2Zs6GKn2eOKrJy8h1FZ5e0Hkf1mVYZS/U4+fGl0Rj+Hwkw== =C4U4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: "Plonk"
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:42 PM 2/8/96 -0800, anonymous-remailer(a)shell.portal.com wrote: >Why do people feel the need to announce to the whole world that they have >just plonked someone? Big deal. It happens all the time. Plonk 'em and get >on with your life. "On the Internet, no one can hear your killfile." Sometimes it is not only neccisary to regard someone as an idoit, you have to make them aware of it as well. I just wonder where they got the idea that killfiles have sound effects... (Maybe it is a feature...) --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon

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Re: CDA; Don't get mad, get even!
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:43 PM 2/8/96 -0800, cjs wrote: >I think that we should make an example of those responsible for the >CDA. Ignorance is really not an excuse here, because whoever voted for >for the bill should have known the CDA was attached to it, and should >have had some idea of what it did. Does anyone have a list of who voted for and against this monstrocity? Campaigns on the Internet made a difference in many campaigns in the last election. I am sure that we could help make that pressure felt in the upcoming elections. Maybe we can get canidates to sign their press releases with PGP. Get them to see that there are very good reasons for them to use crypto and have it available for the general public as well. "That will make it hot for them!" - Guy Grand --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon

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Re: Reasons in support of crypto-anarchy WAS Re: Why am I (fwd)
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> Plonk. > >"Plonk"? What does that mean? Does that mean you're going to hit me >with something? Sounds like another implied threat to me... ;) Funny. That's kind of what Dr. Fred said. PLONK! Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell The e$ Home Page: http://thumper.vmeng.com/pub/rah/

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Black Thursday
by Brian D Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

They signed the telecom bill an hour ago..... Anyone who needs info on R.U.486 or wants to join the Pro-choice underground send encrypted E-mail. Fuck you Clinton!! Brian

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True meaning of CDA
by Kevin S. Van Horn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- cjs(a)netcom.com (cjs) wrote: >I think that we should make an example of those responsible for the >CDA. And while you're at it, make sure you point out what the acronym CDA really means: Communications Disempowerment Act. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin S. Van Horn | The really nasty criminals don't break laws -- vanhorn(a)atext.com | they make them. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMRppPyoZzwIn1bdtAQHwVQF/d7/FiPBRhSUEpBkreF/dvGGQSGOFAluE OGSOYtZiAWxLBZBh0pcF3O54lgjaGq9w =Sj4I -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Tell me whats wrong with this
by avatar＠mindspring.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tell me whats wrong with this section of the telecom bill. I have a six year old boy I am trying to raise and it is hard enough to teach him respect and values without explaining why Ned Beatty is being bungholed in the woods by Billy Bob or why the Terminator splattered this guys brains all over the wall. Tell me why parents should not be able to censor their OWN television so that they may raise their children the way THEY see fit...................Did your dad give you his old playboys?.........NOOOOO............ Did he take you down to your grandmothers autopsy before her funeral?...................I Don't Think So..... Honestly, don't you believe that what a child is exposed to effects his judgement, perception, attitude,and character?? All I'm saying is it's tough to raise a child these days without the added distortion of modern programing and parents need not be denied any tool that can help them achieve success. SEC. 551. PARENTAL CHOICE IN TELEVISION PROGRAMMING. (a) FINDINGS- The Congress makes the following findings: (1) Television influences children's perception of the values and behavior that are common and acceptable in society. (2) Television station operators, cable television system operators, and video programmers should follow practices in connection with video programming that take into consideration that television broadcast and cable programming has established a uniquely pervasive presence in the lives of American children. (3) The average American child is exposed to 25 hours of television each week and some children are exposed to as much as 11 hours of television a day. (4) Studies have shown that children exposed to violent video programming at a young age have a higher tendency for violent and aggressive behavior later in life than children not so exposed, and that children exposed to violent video programming are prone to assume that acts of violence are acceptable behavior. (5) Children in the United States are, on average, exposed to an estimated 8,000 murders and 100,000 acts of violence on television by the time the child completes elementary school. (6) Studies indicate that children are affected by the pervasiveness and casual treatment of sexual material on television, eroding the ability of parents to develop responsible attitudes and behavior in their children. (7) Parents express grave concern over violent and sexual video programming and strongly support technology that would give them greater control to block video programming in the home that they consider harmful to their children. (8) There is a compelling governmental interest in empowering parents to limit the negative influences of video programming that is harmful to children. (9) Providing parents with timely information about the nature of upcoming video programming and with the technological tools that allow them easily to block violent, sexual, or other programming that they believe harmful to their children is a nonintrusive and narrowly tailored means of achieving that compelling governmental interest. Charles Donald Smith Jr. ||The government is my shepherd I need not work. It alloweth me to lie down on a good job. It leadeth me beside stilled factories. It destroyeth my initiative. It leadeth me in the path of a parasite for politics sake. YEA, though I walk through the valley of laziness and deficet spending I shall fear no evil, for the government is with me. It prepareth an economic utopia for me by appropriating the earnings of my grandchildren. It filleth my head with false security. My inefficiency runeth over. Surely, the government should care for me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in a fools paradise forever.................AMEN! || nuke'm if ya got'em||

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Re: Report available: "Minimal Key Lengths for Symmetric Ciphers"
by um＠c2.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Anyone who listens to crypto advice from people who's purpose in life >is to listen to *YOU* gets what they deserve. I'll stay with PGP which >has a 2048 bit key. ROTFL. Last time I checked, it was 128 bits. BTW, do you know what "minimal" means? -- Ulf Mvller * E-Mail: <um(a)c2.org> * WWW: http://www.c2.org/~um/

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