December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: I'm going to count to ten...
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

TruthMonger wrote: > I also sent a letter a few weeks ago to Ted Kaczynski, offering to >carry on his work while he is incarcerated. I got a letter back from >him today, but I'm afraid to open it... TM, Do us all a favor--open the letter!

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Eternity - an alternative approach (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: 16 Jan 1998 22:02:55 -0000 > From: Kay Ping <kping(a)nym.alias.net> > Subject: Eternity - an alternative approach > In one of the messages on the eternity thread someone suggested using > radio signals. This is an interesting approach which certainly deserves > further attention but digital radio requires special hardware which I prefer > to avoid. There is at least one way to do it with standard equipment, course it must be 1-way only. The source takes the phone line from their standard 4800 modem and put it in the audio in (both should be 600 ohm, be shure to use a matching transformer for isolation). At the other end you do the same sort of thing but use the modem to decode the data. You can not have full-duplex with this method, half-duplex only. > Radio is also quite good at hiding the location of the transmitter - you > tune your radio and the signals are just there, coming down your antenna. > It takes special equipment to locate where they originated. Yeah, another radio, a map, a ruler & pen, a omni-directional antenna, and a car. Check out the ARRL for various antenna designs. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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non-transferable signatures (Re: Crypto Kong penetration.) (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:30:05 GMT > From: Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> > Subject: non-transferable signatures (Re: Crypto Kong penetration.) > It might in fact be a dumb move to sign messages to the cypherpunks > list -- proving that you wrote whatever, when for example the USG adds > cypherpunks to it's growing list of terrorist organisations. We're an 'organization'? Where is my monthly newsletter?....;) We should also pick our treasurer with some care. It is the prime target for law enforcement since it provides them access to the money records. In general I have to agree with Adam though, in the real world with ubiquitous and surreptitious monitoring signing documents is actualy a liability in many if not most cases. About the only exception is dealing with a contractual relationship. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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forward secrecy for mixmaster & email (Re: remailer resistancs to attack) (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:54:34 GMT > From: Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> > Subject: forward secrecy for mixmaster & email (Re: remailer resistancs to attack) > > Make that instant key changes for mixmaster remailers by using forward > secrecy and direct IP delivery to enable the interactive > communications pattern required for immediate forward secrecy. Ulf > Moeller (current mixmaster maintainer) has this on his to do list I > think. I agree. It is probably one of the most misunderstood and must under-addressed problem with crypto in my opinion. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Sun to fight MS w/ new workstations [CNN] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:00:09 +0100 (MET) > Subject: Re: Sun to fight MS w/ new workstations [CNN] > From: nobody(a)REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) > Hmm... Considering that you can buy a PC w/ Linux and have a Unix > workstation for less than the cost of a new computer with NT, I wonder > who Sun is really targetting here. Corporations and businesses which feel more secure with a commercial enterprise backing the system. > Most of the people buying NT are the same people who bought their last > OS from Microsoft, and don't feel like trying anything new. There are *many* businesses which have been unix shops exclusively in the past who are now implimenting NT based servers for a variety of reasons. In some cases the intent is to drop the Unix boxes completely over the span of say 5-10 years as alternate applications become available. It's a bigger market than the home, soho, or individual corporate user at stake. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Legality of faxed signatures.
by Robert A. Costner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:56 PM 1/16/98 -0800, James A. Donald wrote: >This is a big problem for me, because I want to scare >businessmen into using digital signatures. Part of the process for having a Digital Signature law is to establish the definition of a writing. Since faxes are not writings, but email is, you should be able to scare them into digital signatures pretty easily. -- Robert Costner Phone: (770) 512-8746 Electronic Frontiers Georgia mailto:pooh@efga.org http://www.efga.org/ run PGP 5.0 for my public key

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Re: how to release code if the programmer is a target for coercion (fwd)
by Jonathan Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 01:41 AM 1/15/98 -0500, Ryan Lackey wrote: >Another attack would be having 5 NSA agents sign a piece of code, but >you could prevent that by having the list made up of distinct well known >individuals who are unlikely to all be bought -- if the NSA wants to >give $100m each to the most frequent 100 posters on cypherpunks, I want >to get in line :) You can have cuts right behind me! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Business Security 5.5 iQA/AwUBNL+2K8JF0kXqpw3MEQK5vgCdH8N7F7fyTkrWn1E+mBhznrIDqZwAnjpG xE2ngJSG0BZJ4crdJb6EAYm8 =huFc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: how to release code if the programmer is a target for (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:29:34 -0800 > From: Jonathan Wienke <JonWienk(a)ix.netcom.com> > Subject: Re: how to release code if the programmer is a target for > coercion (fwd) [my entire previous post deleted...geesh] > Jim, there are > 2 parties in the matter being discussed: EXACTLY. That is why there is a potential for a MITM (requires at least 3 parties) attack. > My key is publicly available at the MIT keyserver; it has been since PGP > 5.0 came out. So what? If Alice is being monitored for whatever reason and she requests your key Mallet simply intercedes and inserts their own key. How is Alice going to catch a clue? > key. It would be fairly difficult for any attacker to forge a signature > with a false key; It isn't the source but the recipient that is under attack. [rest deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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OK to send e-mail?
by owl＠owlseye.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

OK to send an e-mail to cypherpunks(a)ssz.com?

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Swisskey: Swiss issuing office for Internet certificates established
by Alexandre Maret 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.swisskey.com/mitteilung_e.html Swisskey: Swiss issuing office for Internet certificates established Zurich/Berne, 18 December 1997 - Swisscom, Telekurs and DigiSigna have established the joint venture Swisskey and thus laid the foundations for secure electronic commerce in the worldwide web. The certificates issued by Swisskey are available to individuals and companies and enable clear and secure mutual identification in the Internet. Swisskey will be registered in January 1998 and will start offering its services on the Internet at www.swisskey.com in the second quarter of 1998. Electronic commerce has good future prospects: telebanking and teleshopping in the Internet and the secure exchange of EDI messages between applications are some of its possible applications. So far, however, service offers and their acceptance have both been limited, since service providers and customers cannot identify each other immediately and are dependent on bilateral agreements. Electronic certificates are the solution to this problem. They offer mutual trust in the otherwise anonymous field of electronic commerce. They allow users to be identified and texts to be signed digitally and encoded in such a way that only the recipient can read them. Users can obtain a certificate from a registration office by showing some form of identification. Possible registration offices are post offices, Swisscom shops, banks and chambers of commerce. "The Swisskey joint venture aims to encourage the development of electronic commerce in Switzerland by offering a customerfriendly, secure and upgradeable certification service," explained Swisskey Managing Director, Christian Graber. Swisskey will offer SSL certificates as supported by all common Internet browsers (X.509 certificates), Edifact certificates for EDI messages and application and companyspecific certificates for uses such as Intranet applications. Swisscom Ltd and Telekurs Holding AG each hold 47.5% of Swisskey AG and DigiSigna (an association of chambers of commerce of Switzerland and the Principality of Liechtenstein) holds the remaining 5%. DigiSigna also aims to win international approval for the Swisskey certificates. For questions: DigiSigna Otto Müller omueller(a)zurichcci.ch Tel. 01 / 221 07 42 Fax. 01 / 221 76 15 Telekurs Holding AG Bernhard Wenger wnb(a)holding.telekurs.com Tel. 01 / 279 22 20 Fax. 01 / 279 23 36 Swisscom Sepp Huber Josef.Huber(a)swisscom.com Tel. 031 / 342 13 00 Fax. 031 / 342 13 10

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