December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by delta7＠onlinebiz.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Any Houston D-H expiration parties?
by Stephen Cravey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is anyone throwing a DH expiration party in Houston?

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Junger v. Daley Amended Complaint
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We offer Junger v. Daley (formerly Junger v. Christopher) Supplemental and Amended Complaint which responds to recent exchanges between the plaintiff and the Departments of Justice and Commerce: http://jya.com/pdj3.htm (40K) plus attachments This builds on earlier filings and documents: http://jya.com/pdj.htm http://jya.com/pdj2.htm

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DCSB: Boston D-H expiration Party at Doyles on Saturday. (fwd)y
by Cypherpunks Maintenance Account 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

----- Forwarded message from Robert Hettinga ----- >From cpunks Fri Sep 5 18:41:29 1997 X-Sender: rah(a)mail.shipwright.com Message-Id: <v0311078cb036264cfc46(a)[139.167.130.248]> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 18:03:29 -0400 To: Recipient List Suppressed:; From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: DCSB: Boston D-H expiration Party at Doyles on Saturday. Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Precedence: bulk -- Start of PGP signed section. In utter anthesis of the way we normally do things at DCSB, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston Presents An Utterly Unplanned Last-Minute Spur of the Moment Boston Pub-Crawling Celebration of the Expiration of the Diffie-Hellman Public Key Patent Saturday, September 6, 1997 3pm - Whenever we give up at The William Braddock Cafe, A.K.A Doyles's 3484 Washington Street, Boston (Jamaica Plain) This all started out several months ago in my head as a spiffy whoop-de-do black-tie webcasted countdown with sponsors and free champaigne and a groaning buffet and penguin waiters and a cash bar at the Harvard Club with a donation to a worthy cause, but, well, we couldn't get a time on the patent, so the countdown was out, and we couldn't get sponsors (remembering the last cocktail party, maybe there's a reason?), so the free bubbly and munchies was out, PETA got us on the way we wanted to make the penguins groan, and we couldn't think of a worthy enough cause, so that was out, and, finally, the Club is closed on Saturday, anyway. Feh. So, we're losers, okay? What can we say? Shoot us, already... Meanwhile, we're sitting here watching the Bay Area, and Austin, do something, and then Declan and the Washingtoonians do something, but the *final* straw came when Peter Wayner calls up and says: "WELL???? Are you guys in Boston going to DO something? I'm gonna file a story in the Times tomorrow that SAYS you are..." And so, bowing to the pressure of the media culture in memory of recent events on the continent <ewwwww>, (and my own cravings for porkchops and Pickwick Ale, <ewwwww>) I, Robert Hettinga, by the power vested in me by the August (or maybe it was July) membership of the Society as Their Moderator, do hereby unilaterally declare an Official Social Function of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston to occur at Doyle's, 3484 Washington Street, Jamaica Plain, Boston, tomorrow, Septmber 6, 1997, at 3PM Eastern Standard Time, my God have mercy on our souls. Bring your own money. :-). Be prepared to buy the moderator a drink. If Doyle's gets boring, we'll crawl elsewhere, but only after an hour has elapsed. If Doyle's isn't boring, we'll drink ourselves under the table, or at least face-down on it, or until we're shown the door, or maybe until our wives come and take us home, or something. And, so, to paraphrase that great statesman, one David 'Davey' Crockett: "Y'all can go to Hell. [or, Washington, or the Valley, or Texas, as the case may be...] *I'm* going to Doyle's." See you there. Cheers, Bob Hettinga (Im)Moderator, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston -- End of PGP signed section, PGP failed! ----- End of forwarded message from Robert Hettinga -----

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Re: Political News from Wired News
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: > > it's amazing. in all the blathering by senators etc. over these > crypto bills (Feinstein, Freeh etc.), > has *anyone* raised the possibility on the record > that the key recovery is UNCONSTITUTIONAL? > > maybe I'm not following closely enough, but I haven't seen a *single* > reference. that's really eerie. can't we get a *single* > senator to bring up that issue? have you seen any pictures of the concrete pillar that apparently totally destroyed an automobile built like a tank? does it even have a single scratch on it? anybody figure out how a papparazzi scooter managed to get ahead of a car and zig-zag at 120 miles per hour? anybody figure out why 'facts' such as these changed back and forth several times when it became obvious that you could drive a Mercedes semi-truck through the holes in the original story? i agree that there is something weird going on with the reporting of the mainstream press and their affiliates. i'm not looking for mountains of negative sensationalism replacing a balanced perspective, but I have to wonder why nobody is seriously questioning the possibilities of the 'dark side' of anti-4-Horsemen legislation, or reporting the real details surrounding the sudden death of a rich Egyptian mobster and the mother of a future King of England. i am getting a very bad feeling that maybe the level of inside/outside censorship of the press may be a good indicator, like the Doomsday Clock, of how close we are to the day when the Puppet Masters finally step out from behind their masks. truthmonger

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Is Diana News?
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There have been a bunch of messages about this. Some satirical, some serious. I've avoided any comment (so far as I remember). But is it news? I think so. Not necessarily for Cypherpunks. But I hear people saying this isn't news, that other things are more important. Sure, in some cases. But what is more important this week? News from Mars, news that Congress is back in session? Sometimes "personality" stories are more important than "normal event" stories. This story involves many interesting issues--freedom of speech, rights of privacy, the accomplishments of Diana, the issue Toto raised that Diana is surely a better role model than Diane (Feinstein), the monarchy, the boycott of tabloids, etc. No firm conclusions, but I reject completely the idea that routine reports of Congress being back in session, or that several people were blown up in Jerusalem, are bigger new stories than this. This is headed for being the biggest news story of 1997, barring, of course, an even bigger news story. Get used to it. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Dianaism Was: Re: Di and Dodi Run Over A Land Mine
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- nobody(a)replay.com (Anonymous) wrote: >Sean Roach wrote: >> Anyone care to lay odds as to how soon a religion will start up with the >> late princess as the main diety? >> I'm guessing 5 years for the first hard-cores. And 20 years for >> international visibility. >I have already seen one newscast which has predicted that Diana will >join Elvis as a diety-figurehead. So, now that we have a King _and_ >a Queen, why don't we start a new nation? They would be the perfect >titular heads for a Virtual Nation, because their lifestyles would be >inexpensive for us to maintain, no matter how lavishly we choose to >treat them. They'll be lonely if we don't fill in the Pantheon: God of Messages and Pathways: Alan M. Turing God of War: William Colby God of Justice: Alfred Nobel Goddess of Love: Muriel Hemingway God of Vengeance: Jim Bell Presidential Gods: The Kitchen God: Harry S. Truman God of Mischief and Deception: Richard Milhous Nixon God of Laughter and Forgetting: Ronald Wilson Reagan Court Jester: Jerzy Kosinski Patron Saint of Lost Causes: Dorothy Denning The All Powerful God: Rover from "The Prisoner" The Olympians: John Bonham Curt Cobain Jimi Hendrix Janice Joplin John Lennon Jim Morrison "Oh Lord Turing, please hear my prayer. I do beseech thee for a one way function whose inverse is NP complete. Please do graciously accept my humble offering: 10109AlanMathisonTuring11cfea22ef8c1166" Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNBCNBJaWtjSmRH/5AQG5NQf+MfgJcaGPPFufY/hIrFTqd6oSLcnq4THd GHJkbOPKDWJaT/z81fawEZoo8fzE+tV99XkTQP3+R50CeKhg0XuweNPvha4npFhA yNMk+ZxETnyySFHak+MW1qM+rdoWrGdRHKc4lJfwrVJeWCpHGg2IcuC7jXhTh0c9 mW4H3PZzXYh9sqOaD5dzO5GxNTv0OPZ7rdiweaVed2ijQiOZYl0guqF1+SUWIZeB 7mWI6y+YjLoEvYjA9OUUDGChfnN53jkoQVncFE3nrWmUJmICRlSAsTQpaR+vkCMo BXCQpv4lCenuobTRwqstySZF/FYA68toEBcbCjtoxGgHwUdRCXgtxg== =s67n -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: New GAK Bill
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 9/6/97 9:08 AM, John Young (jya(a)pipeline.com) passed this wisdom: >For a legal analysis of why mandatory domestic key escrow would >not (most likely) be constitutional for non-commercial messages, >see parts III & IV of: What I would like to know is how they can justify imposing it on messages between individuals and corporations or corporations to corporations. It also occurs to me that if such communications were within state boundries might not that further restrict where they can put their nose? In they end they most likely will do as they please, but usually they try to start with some semblance of legal constitutional foundation ... this time they seem to have gone for the throat in the first inning, the Constitution be damned ... I see, despite the wording of the McCain-Kerry, that after they have that in place, they will then coming whining that because the private sector is excluded that all these bad people are doing an endrun, so we need to bring them in under the umbrella of GAK ... <sigh> ... 'up the revolution!' -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNBFk/sdZgC62U/gIEQJfcACg98yLedoN7B7i91MFuhBj1TkBF5EAoNCX 39s/Pt+a4/krfyIQ3yB6YJnM =yiu0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Brian B. Riley --> http://www.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys - Send Email Subject "Get PGP Key" "It would take an archimedean fulcrum to raise you to the level of total depravity" --Thomas E. Carney, ca. 1920

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Mandatory key escrow bill text, backed by FBI
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

All encryption products distributed in or imported into the U.S. after January 1, 1999 must have a key escrow backdoor for the government, according to an FBI-backed proposal circulating on Capitol Hill. The measure would impose a similar requirement on "public network service providers" that offer data-scrambling services. FBI Director Louis Freeh talked about this proposal, without disclosing legislation existed, at a Senate subcommittee haring on Wednesday. Domestic use and sale of encryption has never been regulated. Attached is an excerpt from the draft "Secure Public Networks Act" dated August 28. -Declan ------- SEC. 105. PUBLIC ENCRYPTION PRODUCTS AND SERVICES (a) As of January 1, 1999, public network service providers offering encryption products or encryption services shall ensure that such products or services enable the immediate decryption of communications or electronic information encrypted by such products or services on the public network, upon receipt of a court order, warrant, or certification, pursuant to section 106, without the knowledge or cooperation of the person using such encryption products or services. (b) As of January 1, 1999, it shall be unlawful for any person to manufacture for sale or distribution within the U.S., distribute within the U.S., sell within the U.S., or import into the U.S., any product that can be used to encrypt communications or electronic information, unless that product: (1) includes features, such as key recovery, trusted third party compatibility or other means, that (A) permit immediate decryption upon receipt of decryption information by an authorized party without the knowledge or cooperation of the person using such encryption product; and (B) is either enabled at the time of manufacture, distribution, sale, or import, or may be enabled by the purchase or end user; or (2) can be used only on systems or networks that include features, such as key recovery, trusted third party compatibility or other means, that permit immediate decryption by an authorized party without the knowledge or cooperation of the person using such encryption product. (c) (1) Within 180 days of the enactment of this Act, the Attorney General shall publish in the Federal Register functional criteria for complying with the decryption requirements set forth in this section. (2) Within 180 days of the enactment of this Act, the Attorney General shall promulgate procedures by which data network service providers sand encryption product manufacturers, sellers, re-sellers, distributors, and importers may obtain advisory opinions as to whether a decryption method will meet the requirements of this section. (3) Nothing in this Act or any other law shall be construed as requiring the implementation of any particular decryption method in order to satisfy the requirements of paragrpahs (a) or (b) of this section. ------- MSNBC's Brock Meeks on above FBI proposal & White House support: http://www.msnbc.com/news/108020.asp My report on the September 3 "mandatory key escrow" Senate hearing: http://jya.com/declan6.htm Transcript of FBI director Louis Freeh's remarks at Sep 3 hearing: http://jya.com/fbi-gak.txt Reuters' Aaron Pressman on Commerce Dept backing away from FBI: http://www.pathfinder.com/net/latest/RB/1997Sep05/248.html -------

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Re: Freeh is Marked for Deletion
by jf_avon＠citenet.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Freeh must be removed by any means necessary. His calling for mandatory (or > involuntary) key escrow marks him as unworthy of continued tenure. He is > marked for deletion. HOLY DJEEZUUUUSSSSS Tim! You long for becoming roommate to Jim Bell? :-) Ciao jfa -- Jean-Francois Avon, Pierrefonds(Montreal) QC Canada DePompadour, Societe d'Importation Ltee Finest of Limoges porcelain and crystal JFA Technologies, R&D consultants physicists and engineers, LabView programing. PGP encryption keys at: http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pks-toplev.html ID# C58ADD0D : 529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 ID# 5B51964D : 152ACCBCD4A481B0 254011193237822C

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