December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: to The Atlantic
by peb＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The NSA has not admitted that it can break DES, but there is plenty of evidence that 0.01% of its budget would be enough to build a machine to break it. Paul E. Baclace peb(a)netcom.com

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No Subject
by bbrown＠coos.dartmouth.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I posted about the NSA being human on ISCA. This was a response I got from Milamber. I have a close relative who is a cryptologist for the NSA. He knows much about skipjack. he couldn't/wouldn't tell me much, of course, mainly because the last word I use to describe him is 'human'... he's more 'asshole'... but he said the last thing he'd trust is skipjack/clipper... he says that the CIA/FBI/NSA/ATF will almost assuradly _NOT_ violate the escrow rules (in other words, they _will_ get a warrant for the key halves_) however, he also said that there are so many back doors that they don't need them. He also said that they are expecting people to find about 60% of these doors, and they will correct them when found (so they have a deck of aces up thier sleves) Damn people. However, he wasn't directly involved in the clipper shit, but he does have high clearance. But he's an asshole, like I said. NSA people, as a generalization, usually are. He'd turn _me_ in if he knew I hacked. Entropy. Artimage.-

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[ANON} War in rec.guns
by anonymous＠extropia.wimsey.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- {{Reply-To: john.nieder(a)tigerteam.org}} -=> Quoting Royce(a)ug.eds.com to All <=- Ro> Um..not to encourage more of your ranting, but you published email Ro> from the r.g moderator. The post was a message in which the moderator admitted to killing my pro-anon messages to the group. THAT's why I cross-posted it. Ro> You may not remember McCarthy's "I have here a list of 157 Ro> communists...", but this argument sounds a lot like it. The moderator did not post pro-anon messages I received Cc:s of. Period. After I started raising hell and mentioning specific messages, they showed up - after "closure," of course. Some never showed. Ro> You claimed this, and the other posters who were "censored" were free Ro> to post here as proof. No one but you seems to be doing this. Probably they care even less than I do at this point. Still, I stand by what I said, as some the messages started showing up _after_ I made the accusation. Ro> The points you made were not relevant to the discussion. You weren't Ro> paying attention when I explained why the first time. Once and for all - my points; refute them or shut up: 1: "Real" accounts are easily simulated/spoofed. Therefore, a "real accounts only" policy gives no protection whatever from whatever it is that the moderator and rec.guns regulars feared so much from remailed posts. 2: Remailed posts are not always anonymous. Some users (myself included) use remailers non-anonymously because our normal systems do not have as much flexibility, particularly with headers [Cc:, Bcc:, Reference:, etc] as some remailers provide. This is especially true for users of BBS systems and other store-and-forward arrangements. Such posts, even with sigs, CLEARSIGN, and Reply-To: fields were being killed when sent to rec.guns, simply because they came through remailers. This was unreasonable. Jacob Vetleson in particular claimed to have posted many, many tech posts and articles that were killed because they went through a remailer. 3: Some participants on gun forums are uncomfortable using their regular accounts, especially when posting from their business sites, because of employer prejudice against firearms, and desire some degree of anonymity - even the trivial anonymity provided by the simple, unencrypted remailers - to protect their jobs. I also know a _lot_ of single women who do not like to post on _any_ newsgroup because they fear harassment at their jobsites stemming from some weirdo tracking them from their mail address. There are plenty of other reasons to use anonymous remailers. You may think they're stupid, I may think they're stupid, but that's none of our business. The measures one takes for his own defense and privacy are his own affair and his own responsibility, whether this means getting a house gun or using a remailer for his messaging. It's not for me or you to judge. 4: Someone (was it you?) smugly said that remailers were no good anyway, because of other measures available for defeating them, specifically traffic analysis. I posted a message explaining at some length the exhaustive countermeasures some of the more sophisticated remailers (and remailer users) incorporate to defeat traffic analysis. I didn't hear another peep about _that_ subject. 5: The remailers are the brainchildren of extremely pro-RTKBA net activists. Ignorantly banning remailer use was pointlessly antagonistic toward several very powerful, active and well-financed allies. 6: Numerous people simply hated remailed posts "on principle." My answer to that was basically, "So what?" I hated all the inane newbie crap that got posed on rec.guns asking the same _stupid_ questions ten or twelve times a week, usually how best to violate 922(r) or render an otherwise good weapon worthless through brainless modifications, etc.. etc., etc. You know what I do when I see posts I don't like or that offend my sensibilities? I scroll through them. I killfile the author. I don't bother to read them. These are perfect solutions for those who have irrational aversions to anon posts. Look into them. Ro> Answer this: Does every newsreader have a killfile option? Every setup I have used (six or seven, I think) has _some_ provision for twitting, filtering or killfiling. If yours doesn't, you might want to look into a change, especially if other peoples' posts bother you so much. Having whole classes of posts censored from a newsgroup seems an awfully inefficient way of setting up a twitfile...but that's exactly what you are, in essence, advocating. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLe8FnBAm8ppE4nk3AQFD2gP/c17bmgM2JLQDXi9GJapxDYDmjW2KqapH eaFMuxNxX0KBt34jZ1gDDnlM/WpzNN95HH0SLNZbcUF89yZ4bVgR1+cHlzXNi7pi tS8ioYY27B85MXLczfpuTa6/Pi/nhAIhg4dakywAz207sRuQJEXwat6dC8rO0gY7 zJayx7AvNy0= =3pDl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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An Invitation..
by bm189＠cleveland.Freenet.Edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Though the war is not over, this battle is ours!
by Vincent.Cate＠FURMINT.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

DEADBEAT: >I won't ask why the big deal is being made about all of this -- the >agenda surrounding Clipper and friends is clearly a political one, not >a technical one, so it is no surprise to hear even the technical voices, >i.e., this list, trumpeting Blaze's paper as though it were a dagger in >the heart of SKIPJACK. But let's all acknowledge the technical weight >and importance of Blaze's result for what it is: minuscule. It is just a battle victory, and the war is not over, but the advantage is now ours. If today they forced everyone to use Clipper chips, we could now do so and still not let the government tap in. If some company wants to use government subsidized hardware to have very high speed encryption, they could do so with security. As Adam/Hall said, Blaze's work is better than pre-encryption in that the government can not even get unit IDs. As Perry said, you can interoperate with someone who isn't attempting to avoid escrow. This flaw, along with the recent DSS flaw, undermine the confidence people had in the NSA. This will slow down Clipper. In terms of controlling encryption in general, the government train has been switched onto a dead-end track. If they decide to go back through the standards acceptance again, it could be a long time before there are products. The rest of the industry will not wait - PGP etc are moving along rapidly. So the government position is either live with a flawed chip, or go back for a probably fatal delay. Either way, they loose. It is a big deal, and we do have cause to party!!!!! :-) -- Vince (PS I have to wonder if this was just flame-bate.)

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MAKE DIGITAL MONEY FAST!!!
by cdodhner＠indirect.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Wanted: Cypherpunk with a little spare time and a lot of reliability, a reputation I trust, and experience with the Pr0duct Cypher Magic money client program, to split digital proffits with me on a 75%-25% basis (ie: you keep 75% of the digicash!) Please reply promptly via email only. Happy Hunting, -Chris ______________________________________________________________________________ Christian Douglas Odhner | "The NSA can have my secret key when they pry cdodhner @ indirect.com | it from my cold, dead, hands... But they shall pgp 2.3 public key by finger | NEVER have the password it's encrypted with!" cypherpunks WOw dCD Traskcom Team Stupid Key fingerprint = 58 62 A2 84 FD 4F 56 38 82 69 6F 08 E4 F1 79 11 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A government mandante for key-escrow encryption in all communication devices would be the information-age equivalent of the government requiring private citizens to quarter troups in their home. --David Murray PGP NSA ViaCrypt Phrack EFF #hack LOD/H 950 FBI MindVox ESN KC NUA murder QSD Hacker DEFCON SprintNet MCI AT&T HoHoCon DNIC TRW CBI 5ESS KGB CIA RSA Communist terrorist assassin encrypt 2600 NORAD missile explosive hack phreak pirate drug bomb cocain payment smuggle A.P. bullets semi-auto stinger revolution H.E.A.T. warheads porno kiddiesex export import customs deviant bribe corrupt White House senator congressman president Clinton Gore bootleg assasinate target ransom secret bluprints prototype microfilm agents mole mafia hashish everclear vodka TnaOtmSc Sony marijuana pot acid DMT Nixon yeltsin bosnia zimmerman crack knight-lightning craig neidorf lex luthor kennedy pentagon C2 cheyenne cbx telnet tymenet marcus hess benson & hedges kuwait saddam leader death-threat overlords police hitler furer karl marx mark tabas agrajag king blotto blue archer eba the dragyn unknown soldier catch-22 phoenix project biotech genetic virus clone ELINT intercept diplomat explosives el salvador m-16 columbia cartel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLfAvLeKc9MdneB1xAQGtjAQAqTYEpiDau95tCM+kKiEUqX2JVbUgHqvb nCGKy/ZcSraiawao7JnHns6BcJ+p0r9xNYEODJO5u1+NpFPLgD+iIpqKXeiY4h9g 7EYrpNdpcM07d49fM1NUk/snXmvFBiKgKbrKyfJJOm7XZDZGTfMZNxikoCUMtTf7 E4gNvfqhR8U= =ex0S -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Software upgrades to my anonymous remailer ghio@kaiwan.com
by Matthew Ghio 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I added PGP support to my remailer. For those not familiar with the format, send mail to ghio(a)kaiwan.com, and on the first two lines of the message body, put: :: Encrypted: PGP Then put the PGP encrypted message here. Inside the PGP message, put: :: Anon-To: <address@site> ## Subject: whatever Reply-To: or any other headers that you want to add to the message The message body of the message to be remailed goes here. The remailer now also supports a way to truncate the message. This will allow you to remove your signature. Put a header Cutmarks: in your message with what you want to use as a truncate line. For example: To: ghio(a)kaiwan.com Subject: Anonymous Mail :: Request-Remailing-To: address@site Cutmarks: -truncate_here- this is a message all of this text will get remailed. -truncate_here- this text will not be included in the remailed message. You can also use the cutmarks feature as a boundry between seperate messages. To use it in this manner, you must put a :: and remailing instructions immediately following the cutmarks. For example: To: ghio(a)kaiwan.com :: X-Anonymously-To: joe(a)nowhere.edu Cutmarks:-+-next-+- ## Subject: hi joe this is some anonymous mail -+-next-+- :: X-Anon-To: beth(a)somewhere.edu Cutmarks: [END] ## Subject: Hi, Beth look this is anonymous! :) [END] - Here is my .sig which will get removed - Additional notes & common problems: The :: must go on the very first line of the message, or immediately after the seperator/cutmarks. The :: is for commands/headers that you want to give to the remailer software. Anything that can be put following the :: can also be put in the regular headers. The ## is for headers that you want to appear in the output message. When you use PGP, all the original headers get deleted, so you must put the Subject inside the PGP message if you want one. Messages seperated by cutmarks are treated as seperate mail messages. Each must have its own cutmarks header if you want to use cutmarks in the next message. Only one recipient may be specified per message. This may be inconvienient, but it was necessary to prevent Detweiler exponentiation. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3a mQCKAi3vhFUAAAED6KSE5JwFAstBYAUEASfQCEr1wA+1YsWZl7nlNBA8Xq4YSwlg eLCy9oiTDisxsxxxcbQdMtBTFcgQ2GVq7NhhjCEQkRzFRzPOG87T+0aUSufqD2RC PYnwacPDpiTUe/TobHMs/Ov+yDuji0bIacveflubU8DvHLjHgI58Jgk1AAURtCRB bm9ueW1vdXMgUmVtYWlsZXIgPGdoaW9Aa2Fpd2FuLmNvbT4= =v5cv -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Let me know if you have any questions/problems.

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Black Eye for NSA, NIST, and Denning
by an5877＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mr. Shostack makes a good point in identifying immunity from traffic analysis as an advantage of Blaze's subterfuge. Thank you. Metzger, on the other hand, appears to be as stupid as he is brazen. If only one party obscures the LEAF field, the needs of law enforcement are as easily met by inspecting the LEAF transmitted by the other party. DEADBEAT <na5877(a)anon.penet.fi> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.4 iQBFAgUBLe/dEvFZTpBW/B35AQF29wGAhymFAS6fXxiirWGPep7d0hXUsBfSqer6 +tZC5a45CqaP9M6zK/lEAJTHZgR6Gd9c =bGiZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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*** Flash - N.Y. Times on Clipper Flaw **
by remail＠desert.hacktic.nl 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> ... > HOW THE CLIPPER TECHNOLOGY IS FLAWED > > 1. Taking advantage of desing imperfections, people trying to defeat the > system could repeatedly alter the LEAF until it erroneously passed the > "checksum" verification, despite an invalid session-key number. This sounds like a very simple computation. How much would it cost to fab up some chips to do this, and solder them into the circuitry next to the Clipper chip? Or is there an even easier way to do this?

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Black Eye for NSA, NIST, and Denning
by an5877＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Thanks, Hal. Maybe you remember me from some time past. I confess that Perry Metzger's tone set me off and prompted an intemperate reply, for which I apologize. Regardless of the technical brunt, I think we all view with great satisfaction the shock waves produced by someone who the CypherPunks can truly call one of their own. DEADBEAT <na5877(a)anon.penet.fi> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.4 iQBFAgUBLe/hCPFZTpBW/B35AQG5/QF+P964XLXWp3SbtD4PyDHZQCAVK0GIsIPd FEJW6UM42BkWd1rFgO+CmIq3bl8AaOzO =MVs6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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