December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Er?
by Johan Helsingius 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone have any idea what this is about? Anon.penet.fi is being bombarded by an endless flow of these... Julf ------- Forwarded Message X-Envelope-To: na26436 Received: from hydra.acs.uci.edu by anon.penet.fi (5.67/1.35) id AA21686; Thu, 4 Nov 93 16:42:48 +0200 Received: by hydra.acs.uci.edu id AA24199 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for na26436(a)anon.penet.fi) Thu, 4 Nov 1993 05:47:52 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 05:47:52 -0800 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON(a)hydra.acs.uci.edu> Message-Id: <199311041347.AA24199(a)hydra.acs.uci.edu> To: na26436(a)anon.penet.fi Subject: Returned mail: Return receipt ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ----- Message header follows ----- Received: from orion.oac.uci.edu by hydra.acs.uci.edu with SMTP id AA24194 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for <athomas(a)hydra.acs.uci.edu>); Thu, 4 Nov 1993 05:47:52 - 0800 Received: from relay2.UU.NET by orion.oac.uci.edu with SMTP id AA28377 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for <athomas(a)orion.oac.uci.edu>); Thu, 4 Nov 1993 05:47:50 - 0800 Received: from toad.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA04164; Thu, 4 Nov 93 08:45:13 -0500 Received: by toad.com id AA23509; Thu, 4 Nov 93 05:37:38 PST Received: by toad.com id AA23503; Thu, 4 Nov 93 05:35:10 PST Return-Path: <jik(a)security.ov.com> Received: from pad-thai.aktis.com ([192.231.148.11]) by toad.com id AA23499; Th u, 4 Nov 93 05:35:05 PST Errors-To: na26436(a)anon.penet.fi Received: from gza-client1.aktis.com by pad-thai.aktis.com (8.6.4/) with ESMTP id <IAA14324(a)pad-thai.aktis.com>; Thu, 4 Nov 1993 08:35:27 -0500 Received: from localhost by gza-client1.aktis.com (8.6.4/4.7) id IAA28688; Thu, 4 Nov 1993 08:35:26 -0500 Received: from relay2.UU.NET by pad-thai.aktis.com (8.6.4/) with SMTP id <WAA26264(a)pad-thai.aktis.com>; Wed, 3 Nov 1993 22:05:39 -0500 Received: from toad.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA29104; Wed, 3 Nov 93 22:02:57 -0500 Received: by toad.com id AA18024; Wed, 3 Nov 93 18:57:31 PST Received: by toad.com id AA18012; Wed, 3 Nov 93 18:56:25 PST Received: from punisher.caltech.edu ([131.215.48.151]) by toad.com id AA18007; Wed, 3 Nov 93 18:56:20 PST Errors-To: na26436(a)anon.penet.fi Received: from alumni.cco.caltech.edu by punisher.caltech.edu (4.1/DEI:4.41) id AA29935; Wed, 3 Nov 93 18:56:14 PST Received: by alumni.cco.caltech.edu (4.1/DEI:4.41) id AA20137; Wed, 3 Nov 93 18:52:10 PST Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 18:52:10 PST Message-Id: <9311040252.AA20137(a)alumni.cco.caltech.edu> To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, cypherpunks(a)toad.com X-Mail-Duplicate-From: nobody(a)alumni.cco.caltech.edu Comments: This message is NOT from the person listed in the From line. It is from an automated software remailing service operating at that address. Please report problem mail to <hal(a)alumni.caltech.edu>. Subject: Re: ANON: mail concerns From: Eternal Optimist <na26436(a)anon.penet.fi> Return-Receipt-To: na26436(a)anon.penet.fi Reply-To: na26436(a)anon.penet.fi Errors-To: na26436(a)anon.penet.fi ------- End of Forwarded Message

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ciphers and such
by Lloyd Cowling 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cipherpunks: I have a long running interest in ciphers. Could you put me on to your modis operundi and FAQ's, etc. Where I might find out more about you and what you do? Thx - Lloyd

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ANON: pools
by Karl Lui Barrus 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >address). This means that you will have to trust the person running the >remailer. Well, you can always run your own remailer or two... :-) >used which can solve this problem. I call it the "message depot" paradigm. Actually, this is quite similar (identical to?) anonymous pools. The stuff about interfacing different pools sounds good. Miron is running one at extropia.wimsey.com (mail to pool0-request or pool0-help). Basically, it is a mailing list with several subscribers. If you want to send a message to one person, encrypt it and send it to the pool. Everybody gets the message, but only one person can decrypt it. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLNk3FoOA7OpLWtYzAQENwgQAoYV+LeTQ2XguY5OtXgiW1pkMuZYxwifl pmmoHvUiFN5JdOBnyII4JgFjWpU1vqzAuUaZxR7yG1/c6Uaq+IluADGsu9NdSUVX NM7UGKffDMmE0bdlfzmlZJtP7+bbUK5kNE7gJkseyZ6q8cU9qjftUlFgASNrUCH9 w75nM8tMM68= =x9BH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: message depots
by jim＠bilbo.suite.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It seems the message depot idea is not terribly original. Oh well, I'm not too surprised. I suspected this and that's why I put "new(?) idea" in my post. I can at least pat my self on the back for reinventing it a few years late. :-) Jim_Miller(a)suite.com

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Next Step show
by crunch＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Saw Eric Hughes on the Next Step science show on the Discovery Channel last Tuesday. Good job Eric...!! Wish they would have mentioned PGP and how easy it was to get it... Cheers CC

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Jim McBride
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Got this in the mail today: -- cut -- Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1993 22:11:07 From: jim_mcbr(a)netmail.com Subject: Auto Reply To: <me> Thank you for your mail to Jim McBride at JS McBride & Company. Due to the volume of mail be handled by this account, this is an automatic reply. PLEASE READ CAREFULLY!! 1. JS McBride is NOT collecting demographic information on email addresses. Due to the controversy surrounding this practice, we have discarded the product demographics we collected. We are however still collecting email addresses and user names. 2. The information collected (name and email address) will be offered in a printed white pages directory and in a white pages server on the net. 3. You DO NOT need to ask to have your name removed. BEFORE your name is used in the directory, you will receive mail asking for your permission. If you reply to the inquiry, your information will be used. If you do not reply, your name will NOT be used. 4. Comments regarding the white pages should be sent to Tom Manning at JS McBride & Company. <tmanning(a)netmail.com> 5. Mail to Jim McBride should be sent to <jimm(a)netmail.com> 6. Information regarding the purchase of the white pages directory should be sent to <listinfo(a)netmail.com> or telephone us at 415-949-4295 Thank you for your time, Jim McBride -- David Sward sward+(a)cmu.edu Finger or email for PGP public key 3D567F Encryption is an envelope for your email; read alt.security.pgp for details. GCS: -d+ -p+(---) c++(++++) l+ u+ e+ m+()@ s+/++ n+@ h+ f !g w+@ t+@ r+ y?

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Re: UPDATE: direct-marketing email address list
by Stanton McCandlish 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's what you get if you send mail to J.S. McBride's posted address to query about the direct-marketing email address list: ______ begin forward ______

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PC Magizine.....
by Wizard＠falcon.lhup.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

...just to let all know, the November issue of PC Magazine mentions PGP in the Trends section. (pg 29) '....in fact, cryptography is included on the State Departments' list of weapons that could compromise the country's security.' '..Despite attemps to keep the technology stateside, 84 products that employ Digital Encryption Standard (DES) are available overseas, says the Software Publishers Association. But the regulation has succeeded in keeping U.S. companies out of the globabl marketplace. And recently, the makers of a software encryption program called Pretty Good Privacey(PGP) have been investigated for possible export violations. (Both DES and PGP are available on the Internet.)' The article also talks some about Clipper, but nothing new to my ears. The Skip-Jack algorithm is mentioned, and the fact that the NSA is keeping mum on how it works. Sean wizard(a)falcon.lhup.edu

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Auto Reply
by jim_mcbr＠netmail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thank you for your mail to Jim McBride at JS McBride & Company. Due to the volume of mail be handled by this account, this is an automatic reply. PLEASE READ CAREFULLY!! 1. JS McBride is NOT collecting demographic information on email addresses. Due to the controversy surrounding this practice, we have discarded the product demographics we collected. We are however still collecting email addresses and user names. 2. The information collected (name and email address) will be offered in a printed white pages directory and in a white pages server on the net. 3. You DO NOT need to ask to have your name removed. BEFORE your name is used in the directory, you will receive mail asking for your permission. If you reply to the inquiry, your information will be used. If you do not reply, your name will NOT be used. 4. Comments regarding the white pages should be sent to Tom Manning at JS McBride & Company. <tmanning(a)netmail.com> 5. Mail to Jim McBride should be sent to <jimm(a)netmail.com> 6. Information regarding the purchase of the white pages directory should be sent to <listinfo(a)netmail.com> or telephone us at 415-949-4295 Thank you for your time, Jim McBride ___________ end forward __________

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ViaCrypt PGP has arrived
by jim＠bilbo.suite.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My copy of ViaCrypt PGP arrived yesterday (Nov 3). Since I worked late, I haven't had a chance to play with it yet. I looked through the manual. The commands look similar (if not identical) to "classic" PGP's, as far as I could tell at a glance. The bulk of the text for the manual was taken from the documentation that comes with PGP, except all occurances of "PGP" where replaced with "ViaCrypt PGP". The box looks pretty good. :-) Looks like they hired a real graphics designer. I suppose some of you are wondering why I'd fork over 100 bucks for something I could get for free. First of all, I can afford it. Second of all, I simply feel more comfortable using a licensed shinkwrapped software product than a quasi-legal freeware one. Call me a coward. I realize that by not compiling the code myself on my own machine I basically have to trust the ViaCrypt PGP implementation. So be it. If there is something wrong with ViaCrypt PGP I believe it will eventually be discovered. Somebody will no doubt disassemble it and look for backdoors. If someone finds one, ViaCrypt's reputation will be worthless. It's in ViaCrypts best interest not to put in any backdoors. Jim_"Rebel without a spine"_Miller(a)suite.com

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