December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

any relation?
by Steve Mynott 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.kiva.net/~tmay/ -- pgp 1024/D9C69DF9 1997/10/14 steve mynott <steve(a)tightrope.demon.co.uk>

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Re: What we are Fighting
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Cryptography Manifesto excerpts used for replies] > From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> > > Tim asks: > > >Freeh and Company continue to mumble about "meeting > >the legitmate needs of law enforcement." What can they > >be speaking of? > ... > >Obviously his side is contemplating domestic crypto restrictions. > > Threat of terrorism will be the impetus for applying national security > restrictions domestically, for relaxing cold war limitations on spying > on Americans, for dissolving barriers between law enforcement > and military/intelligence agencies. Funny how the NSA's ECHELON monitoring machine keeps growing endlessly... : The Washington Post Magazine, June 23 1996 : "Government surveillance, terrorism and the U.S. Constitution" : from Main Justice, by Jim McGee and Brian Duffy, 1996, ISBN 0-684-81135-9 : : The FBI is growing in tandem with the NSA. With the help of the National : Security Agency, the U.S. eavesdropping bureaucracy that spans the globe, : the FBI operates a super-secret facility in New York code-named Megahut : that is linked to the other FBI listening posts. : : After the OKC bombing, Janet Reno and Louis Freeh asked Congress to raise : to 3,000 the number of FBI agents working counter-intelligence and counter- : terrorism. : : With the new legislation, the funding for just the FBI's counter-intelli- : gence/terror goals is now ONE BILLION DOLLARS a year, and their activities : will rise to a LEVEL HIGHER THAN AT ANY TIME DURING THE COLD WAR. 1984 means a constant State of War. Here's a new war: "cyberwar". # "Head of CIA Plans Center To Protect Federal Computers" # By Tim Weiner, The New York Times, 6/26/96 # # John Deutch, Director of the CIA, is building a "cyberwar" center in the NSA. # # Mr. Deutch said cyberwar could become a 21st-century national security threat # second only to nuclear, biological and chemical weapons. # # "The electron," Mr. Deutch warned, "is the ultimate precision-guided weapon." Haven't I heard bad dialogue like this on Mystery Science Theater 3000? ---- > From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> > > Technical means for access to encrypted data will probably > come first in communications, then to stored material. There > will be an agreement for increased CALEA wiretap funding, which > is what the two cellular and wired suits against the FBI intend, > (paralleling what the hardware and software industries want from > federal buyers of security products). > > This will provide the infrastructural regime for the gov to monitor > and store domestic traffic as NSA does for the global, using the > same technology (NSA may provide service to domestic > LEA as it now does for other gov customers for intel). Question: How can the FBI use computers to monitor thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of phone calls simultaneously, as they said they would do with CALEA, when we Americans speak so many different accents and languages? Answer: Thirty years of fine tuning by the NSA, y'all. ---- > From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> > > As noted here, the features will appear first as optional, in response > to demand from commerce, from parents, from responsible > institutions, to meet public calls for protection, for privacy, for > combating threats to the American people. * "Project L.U.C.I.D.", by Texe Marrs, 1996, ISBN 1-884302-02-5 * * These changes are necessary, we are reminded each day by our mind control * jailers in the media, to solve the immigration crises, to institute gun * control, to counter domestic terrorism, to fight pornography, to find * deadbeat dads who don't pay child support, to "Save Mother Earth", * to war against drug kingpins, to stop crime in the streets, to watch and * monitor the militias, to put an end to hate crimes and bigotry, * to extend universal healthcare benefits, to guarantee welfare reform, to * improve public education...the list of crises and problems to be fixed * seems to be never-ending. * * Implement National ID Cards, they promise, and a bright, secure future * can be ours. [snip] ---- > From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> > > Like wiretap law, use of the features for preventative snooping will > initially require a court order, as provided in several of the crypto > legislative proposals. > > Like the wiretap orders, gradually there will be no secret court refusals > for requests to use the technology in the national interest. > > Personal privacy will evaporate almost unnoticeably... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** * * * * * * * * * * : The Puzzle Palace : Inside the National Security Agency, : America's most secret intelligence organization : Author James Bamford, 1983 revision, ISBN 0-14-00.6748-5 P468-469: Within the United States, FISA still leaves the NSA free to pull into its massive vacuum cleaner every telephone call and message entering, leaving, OR TRANSITING the country. By carefully inserting the words "by the National Security Agency" into the FISA legislation, the NSA has skillfully excluded from the coverage of the FISA statute as well as the surveillance court all interceptions received from the British GCHQ or any other non-NSA source. Thus it is possible for GCHQ to monitor the necessary domestic circuits and pass them on to the NSA through the UKUSA Agreement, giving them impunity to target and watch-list Americans. P475-477: Like an ever-widening sinkhole, the NSA's surveillance technology will continue to expand, quietly pulling in more and more communications and gradually eliminating more and more privacy. If there are defenses to such technotyranny, it would appear, at least from past experience, that they will not come from Congress. Rather, they will most likely come from academe and industry in the form of secure cryptographic applications to private and commercial telecommunications equipment. The same technology that is used against free speech can be used to protect it, for without protection the future may be grim. Senator Frank Church, chairman of the Senate Intelligence committee, referring to the NSA's SIGINT technology, ciirca 1975: At the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide. If the government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence commun- ity has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology... I don't want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return. * * * * * * * * * * *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Data Show Federal Agents Seldom Employ Surveillance Authority Against * Terrorists", By Stephen Labaton, The New York Times, 5/1/95 * * An item in President Clinton's five-year, $1.5 billion plan to combat * terrorist acts: * * o It would ease restrictions on the use in American courts of * information from surveillance conducted by foreign governments. # "Moynihan Says U.S. Killed His Anti-Spy Measure" # By Irvin Molotsky, The New York Times, September 11, 1985 # # Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan charged that the CIA and State Department # had killed a measure he had introduced aimed at protecting American # citizens from having their telephone conversations intercepted by foreign # agents in this country. # # The Senator's bill would have made telephone call interception by foreign # agents illegal and would have provided for their expulsion. # # The Chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence opposed the measure # as unnecessary and could lead to disclosing "sensitive intelligence # sources." British wiretappers at the helm of the NSA's domestic spy-fest. ---guy http://www.newsguy.com/~mayday/crypto/crypto0.html

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Re: KRAP is at it in the IETF
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A reply already. ---guy > From rgm(a)icsa.net Mon Sep 7 09:32:47 1998 > Received: from homebase.htt-consult.com (homebase.htt-consult.com [208.235.169.130]) > by mail2.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixM1.3) with ESMTP id JAA04870 > for <guy(a)panix.com>; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:32:45 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from rgm ([208.235.169.131]) by homebase.htt-consult.com > (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA340 > for <guy(a)panix.com>; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:32:50 -0400 > Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980907092146.00a108c0(a)homebase.htt-consult.com> > X-Sender: rgm-icsa(a)homebase.htt-consult.com > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) > Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 09:21:46 -0400 > To: Information Security <guy(a)panix.com> > From: Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)icsa.net> > Subject: Re: KRAP is at it in the IETF > In-Reply-To: <199809071253.IAA01912(a)panix7.panix.com> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Status: R > > Note that this is an individual submission. It is not the product of any > IETF workgroup. Anyone can submit an Internet Draft. The IETF maintains > an open process. However, the IESG has to approve all IDs before they can > become RFCs. There will be a period of last call on this draft on the IETF > list where appropriate comments will be taken. > > > Robert Moskowitz > International Computer Security Association > (248) 968-9809 > Fax: (248) 968-2824 > rgm(a)icsa.net >

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Re: any relation?
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Steve Mynott <stevem(a)tightrope.demon.co.uk> > X-Echelon: no-archive Heh. > > http://www.kiva.net/~tmay/ No, Cypherpunk Tim May's picture was shown in Wired... But now he's gonna hafta get a gun at least that big, or suffer major penis envy. ---guy ;-)

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Cypherpunks HyperArchive (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Cypherpunks HyperArchive > From: Ryan Lackey <rdl(a)MIT.EDU> > Date: 07 Sep 1998 11:41:54 -0400 > The machine suffered either disk controller or HDD problems as I was > logged into it. It is located in Boston, MA. I do not currently have The L0pht folks are there and Wel Pond used to be a subscriber. Perhaps you could contact them and they could provide the support? ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Seed to clone himself, one way or another [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, It seems that scientist in general may soon be forced to roam from country to country to practice their work. Shades of Neuromancer. I am more and more convinced that Gibson's book, and it's social commentary, is right on the mark. Forwarded message: > X-within-URL: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/science/9809/07/clone.seed.ap/ > CHICAGO PHYSICIST SAYS HE'LL CLONE HIMSELF WITH WIFE'S HELP > > Dr. Richard Seed Richard Seed September 7, 1998 > Web posted at: 3:50 a.m. EDT (0750 GMT) > > BOSTON (AP) -- A physicist with three Harvard degrees but no medical > license said he is ready to begin the first step toward immortality: > he will clone himself. [text deleted] > Seed said his wife, Gloria, has agreed to carry an embryo that would > be created by combining the nucleus of one of his cells with a donor > egg, the newspaper said. [text deleted] > The Chicago scientist has three Harvard degrees, including a Ph.D., > but no medical degree, no money and no institutional backing. He has > vowed to produce a pregnancy with a human clone within 2 1/2 years. [text deleted] > Two states, California and Michigan, have outlawed human cloning and > dozens of other states are considering bans. > > A five-year moratorium on cloning is apparently being observed by > mainstream scientists, but Congress has failed to act on legislation > to outlaw the procedure. > > Seed has said that if Congress bans cloning, he will move his > operation to Tijuana, Mexico. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Government Regulation & Scienctific Research
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Because of the changes in national governments and their increasing desire to regulate their citizenry and their economies according to flawed economic and social dogma we will see the following: - primary research will still occur in the 1st world countries where the interest, money, and infrastructure can support it. - practical applications of this technology will be developed in the 3rd world countries where the destabalizing impact of technology won't hurt as much because the central government infrastructure doesn't exist. - it will become harder and harder for individuals with intellectual capital to express their rights within these 1st world enclaves. In particular, leaving the country. Perhaps it will get so bad that we'll see a return to the Soviet style of sports competition (ie KGB stoolies following all the athletes around). What will be the end result? We'll see bastions of 1st world culture surrounded by a sea of balkan areas that are 'governed' by economic and cultural ethos alone. As this process proceeds it will erode the stability of the 1st world countries and cause their break-up into small independant balkans. The results of this will be: - there will be a slow down in basic research in about 50 years because there won't be any large infrastructures that can support basic research. Hopefuly the balkans will find a way to cooperate in an economic and technological manner. If so the roll of technology will resume, albeit potentialy at a slower rate. - small balkans will band together for periods of time to explore research and develop the base understanding. it'll end up being sort of like a MCC or Sematech at the political level. One aspect that does worry me is that as technology speads the cultures around the world homogenize. This could have a negative impact on the balkanization because the motive to go from here to there won't be relevant because there will be here. It may turn out that xenophobic cultures like the Talibans and Chinese may actualy help in the long run because of their unwillingness to compromise their world views. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Tesla's Secrets
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

DoD's latest standard for protection against electromagnetic effects, MIL-STD-464, "Electromagnetic Environmental Effects -- Requirements for Systems," provides a bare 17 pages of dry prescriptions for the official standard, then 90 astonishing pages of ways the standard is to be applied in addressing unexpected EM misfortunes, like ordance spontaneously exploding, planes crashing, ships out of control, radar meltdown, personnel fried, and so on. http://jya.com/mil-std-464.htm (346K plus images) What comes out of this critical "anecdotal" material, not yet subject to precise standardization, is what Tesla learned early this century: the dreadful power of accumulated, boosted EM caused by unexpected interaction of human electronic inventions and natural EM forces. Such as some speculate brought down TWA 800. What also comes out is that each unit of every major weapons system, theirs and ours (and civilian devices) can be identified by its unique EM "fingerprint" -- nuclear sub, B1B, F117, AF One, your family Sports-ute, your chattering computer, cellphone and pager. As if anyone except the NSA can siphon and sort through them all, the compromising emanations are Out There awaiting receivers of secret messages unintentionally sent. A loud and clear message is that electronification of culture is causing a build-up of powerful latent lightning looking for a ground to blast, a sub to sink, a bomber to shatter. Be prepared for a technological attack, to be blamed on terrorists, but really caused by the expected EM effects Tesla warned about.

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"info on spooks"
by Xena - Warrior Princess 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Internet Oracle has pondered your question deeply. Your question was: > > Maybe *you* can help, Mighty Oracle. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 20:19:26 EDT > From: XxxxXxxx(a)aol.com > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: tell me > > hola and good tidings > send some info on spooks please > i will be grateful > And in response, thus spake the Oracle: } } In a way, you have come to the right place, Supplicant. Some of my best } friends are spooks. Generally, they like to be known as "The Intangible } Ones", but that's a bit of pretentiousness on their parts. "Ghoul", } "ghost", "spirit", and "weird white smudge on film" all are appropriate } names. } Some of their favorite haunts, if you will, tend to be different than } what current culture dictates. For example, spooks will not hang out in } old houses. Too many cobwebs, bugs, and general naughtiness. Spooks are } very sensitive creatures, and prefer to relax in libraries, arboretums, } Newt Gingrich's bedroom -- places where nothing ever happens. } There's not much else to spooks, dear Supplicant. They're really quite } nice and friendly, and I recommend you make them a big steak dinner every } once in a while. Leave it out on the table, and make sure you tell me } your address so I can come by... er, so I can notify the spooks. } } You owe the Oracle some new potatoes to go with that steak. }

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