December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Br'er Tim and the Bug Hole
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Blanc wrote: >By jove, I think I've "got" it - there *is* something deeper going on >here: > >Tim is really an undercover 'narc' - through his provocative remarks >he's actually encouraging all the violent terrorists on the list to >come out of their lurking holes and reveal themselves. Then he's >going to turn them all in for a cash reward, which he'll use to buy >more high-tech stock. > >Yeah, that's it! While Blanc is only joking, I want to take this opportunity to comment on the Find The Mole game. Moles look just like everyone else. Speculation on who is actually a provocateur or an informant or a saboteur or whatever only has the purpose of creating unhappiness and undermining anything worthwhile that is going on. It is likely that there are informants lurking amongst the cypherpunks. The secret police watch and infiltrate far less interesting groups, and this one has received more than its share of publicity. (In a couple of decades we'll probably learn who they were. Hopefully things will work out in such a way that this will be worth a good laugh.) The right thing to do is to assume there are a certain number of moles around and engineer your activities accordingly. If you really think you can Find The Mole, then I would think your first step is to keep quiet about what you are doing. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNGoqdpaWtjSmRH/5AQHNhQf9Gc8d8gK/7tiYhMe9eo4BQt5QpW93xfR6 x1Ti+XIZcpQ4Y0YZvklghLHBHJcIywYrf0vM+fYtxfUrG+FWMzD8QPKE/w8x/SI9 eoHIr8GWAnuKEBKnv3aUpHnV9jqTKtcU5/0APQ/nGCAnxzl3Y9/ZAKDwoSVFS9vI gjw0YihR6FKg+Qv7J0lPBgrBWWvQla5sM8kkaWdv8lKIqMtbXu9XeXiIZd8/FlIC WNj8R5WEOXF333A10cWiRhPqRJP9YevXH7NMFSnv9BpUfyeTlD1dKklTfjumSqwq eY+RSmsTzM1OlBzw2NbxmXbahg3mFVYBu8QDPPcu8kwHcMldAsmx+Q== =Eoqh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: (Fwd) Victory For Microbroadcasting!!!!
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Wow. I'm glad the monger himself liked this little tidbit. I thought it was relevant. On or About 14 Nov 97 at 0:46, TruthMonger wrote: > > At 11:45 AM -0700 11/13/1997, Ross Wright wrote: > > > > > >ANOTHER VICTORY FOR FREE RADIO BERKELEY & MICROPOWER BROADCASTING > > Great lead for tracking parallels to the gubmint's plans for the > Net, as well. > > Thanks =-=-=-=-=-=- Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://ross.adnetsol.com Voice: (408) 259-2795

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Mad as Hell
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Several swirling themes here.... * More versions of the CDA...which the Supreme Court may let stand. (Cf. my comments about "death by a thousand cuts" and the Constitution, which is being "exceptioned" and "reinterpreted" into oblivion.) * Crypto legislation is far from dead...it is just dormant right now. * Game theoretically, Congress and the other bureaucrats win by expanding the number and scope of laws. There is little constituency for lessening the number and scope of laws, despite public opinion. * Anti-militia rhetoric continues, with politicians saying militias must be reigned in. (See misc.activism.militia for many examples.) * The U.N. is trying to get the U.S. to "ban racism." Meaning, ban free choice in whom one hires (already the case with Title 7 of the Civil Rights Act, despite what this means for freedom of association). Meaning, place even more limits on free speech. Meaning, pass laws against certain organizations. (If Paladin is upheld, expect more use of the civil law system to put various clubs and organizations out of business.) * And so it goes. More laws, more prisons, more pressure points on us all. But the public is getting fed up. Here in my state of California we decisively shot down the use of hiring quotas and admissions quotas based on race. And the courts have upheld this. The free ride for unqualified minorities and "people of color" is over, at least here in California. (And a dozen or so other states are considering similar moves.) Right-wing talk show hosts are more popular than ever. Here's just the latest example, in the article below. The article makes some good points. Note especially the part about the murder of Donald Scott, the guy murdered in his bedroom by BATFag agents. No doubt Bob Hettinga thinks my mention of this case is dangerous, that good little bunny rabbits don't make Big Brother angry. Well, I will say what I said before: the BATF and LA County Sheriffs responsible and involved in this case should be tried in a criminal court, should be convicted (based on what I have seen), and they should then be sentenced to die in the gas chamber at San Quentin. This is, after all, what they do to gang bangers who shoot up liquor stores. Cops should face execution. In this case, a mass execution of the dozen raiding officers would send a strong message to other cops.) Here's the item: Hollywood Producer Says "Enough Is Enough! AARON RUSSO IS MAD AS HELL Aaron Russo, the Hollywood producer who produced The Rose with Bette Midler and Trading Places with Eddie Murphy is now on a crusade to wake up Americans to the wholesale assault on their liberties being launched by governments at every level. "America is becoming a totalitarian police state!" thunders Aaron Russo as he paces back and forth across the stage of the colorful "Mad As Hell" TV talk show set. He's not at all happy with the sinister turn that America has taken in recent years and, like the name of the new show, he is "Mad as Hell." But he's determined to do something about it and that is what "Mad As Hell" is all about. A pilot for the show, including the above scene, is being aggressively marketed to the networks and cable channels. Preview showings of the show have drawn full houses in Las Vegas and Los Angeles and Russo's angry outbreaks have provoked wild, enthusiastic response wherever he goes. It appears that Russo isn't the only one who's "Mad as Hell." The theme of the first pilot, which was sent to ISIL staff for evaluation, featured interviews and vignettes with Frances Plante Scott; Brenda Grantland president of FEAR (Forfeiture Endangers Americans' Rights), and Judy Osburn, herself a victim of civil forfeiture and author of the book Spectre of Forfeiture. Frances Plante Scott told of her chilling ordeal with Park Service officials attempting to seize their ranch and of the SWAT team raid in which her husband, Donald Scott, was shot to death by trigger-happy police. Ventura and Los Angeles County Sheriffs, D.E.A. and the Park Service were all vying to get a piece of the action and seize the valuable property using trumped up marijuana charges (there was no marijuana as if it mattered). Following this event, Ms. Scott's ranch house was burned in the Malibu firestorm and later was subjected to punitive harassment by the IRS. Colorado state Senator Charles Duke, also in the studio audience, spoke about the 10th Amendment Sovereignty Resolution, a modern version of Magna Carta designed to force a constitutional showdown with the federal government. At this point in time 22 states have emulated Duke by passing the resolution in their states. Duke, incidentally, is scheduled as a speaker at the ISIL world conference this August (see our conference web page). The video ends with an eloquent statement on modern slavery by Rod Taylor. In mid-June, ISIL pres. Vince Miller, Exec. VP Jim Elwood, and Board Member Jarret Wollstein had a meeting with Aaron Russo to discuss the terrible dangers facing America today. We all agreed that a majority of people have been kept almost completely in the dark regarding the massive abuses of police power in this country. I remembered the joke about how the govenment must think we are all mushrooms because they seem to enjoy keeping us in the dark and feeding us horseshit. "How could they know," I exclaimed. "The national media is as controlled as Pravda in the old Soviet Union." Any real news is scrupulously excised from national news sources and the waves of government propaganda are so pervasive that even some of our own members believe the government line in spite of themselves and think we have lost our marbles. We agreed that there must be a vehicle for a wake-up-call and Russo's new program could be the ticket. Russo also talked of establishing, with the assistance of ISIL, a massive early-warning fax network to warn citizens of dangerous legislation about to be passed. He has also created an action manual with the phone and fax numbers of Members of Congress so that you will know at whom to vent your wrath With ISIL's world wide communications network computer, fax, phone plus a network of correspondents we will be able to feed the data and expose abuses of power before they get off the ground. A merchandise line with caps, t-shirts with the blazing "Mad As Hell" logo is also planned. Stay tuned for more developments in fuure issues of the FNN. FREEDOM NETWORK NEWS International Society for Individual Liberty - The World's Foremost Liberty Network Editor: Vincent H. Miller * Assistant Editors: James R. Elwood * Tim Starr * Anton Sherwood * Mark Valverde * June/July 1996

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Hyperlinks case settles at door of court
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>The Shetland Times case has been settled - links will be permitted with >certain conditions > >See http://www.shetland-news.co.uk/headline/97nov/settled/settled.html And it was even settled reasonably, and without setting new bad UK case law. (For those who don't remember the case, the Shetland News and Shetland Times are Scottish newspapers with web pages. The News was linking from its page to some of the Times's stories without pointing out that the stories were in their competitor's paper, and the Times sued them. In the settlement they agree that the News may link to the Times's pages, and that they'll only do so with visible indications that they're doing so.) Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com Regular Key PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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Re: Victory for Microbroadcasting
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The federal war against Microbroadcasting should be studied by all InfoWarriors who plan to shed their ElectroBlood defending the coming attacks against MicroWeb free speech. The Intenet Content Coalition (ICC) made a cheap grab at trying to form a corporate FCC to put the InterNet media-power brokering in the hands of those who already rule the roost overseen by the FCC. (Eliminating the middle-man, so to speak.) The fact of the matter is, the mainstream media is not going to have a lot of trouble herding the majority of the sheeple into their feeding pens, given the power, money and position that they already have, so it is a bit tacky for them to have made an attempt to put themselves in a position to 'enforce' standards favorable to themselves. The difference between MicroBroadcasting and the MicroWeb/WebRings that are being independently formed, is that MicroBroadcasting is trying to get back what was stolen, and those on the InterNet are trying to keep from getting what we already have, stolen in the future. TruthMonger ~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ JUDGE WILKEN DENIES FCC MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGEMENT!!! National Lawyers Guild Committee on Democratic Communications 558 Capp Street, San Francisco 94110 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE COURT REJECTS FCC's CONSTITUTIONAL CATCH 22 United States District Court Judge Claudia Wilken has rejected another attempt by the Federal Communications Commission to silence Berkeley Micro Radio Broadcaster Stephen Dunifer, founder of Free Radio Berkeley. In a 13 page opinion released on November 12, 1997, Judge Wilken once again rejected the government's motion for an injunction to silence micro radio broadcasts by local radio pioneer Stephen Dunifer. In 1995, Judge Wilken rejected the government's first motion for a preliminary injunction against Dunifer's broadcasts. At that time the Court found merit in Dunifer's argument that the FCC's ban on low power, affordable FM broadcasting was a violation of the First Amendment's guarantee of free speech to all in the United States. In a blatant attempt to avoid facing its First Amendment obligations the FCC then urged Wilken to permanently enjoin Dunifer from Broadcasting and at the same time argued that she could not even consider the issue of whether its rules, which prevent him from getting a license, are unconstitutional. In a Kafkaesqe argument, the Commission argued that Wilken had jurisdiction to issue an injunction, but no jurisdiction to hear Dunifer's constitutional arguments. The government claimed that only the higher federal courts could consider the constitutional question. In her November 12 decision rejecting the Government's position, Judge Wilken pointed to the fact that the FCC had taken exactly the opposite position in the 1994 case of Dougan vs FCC. In that case, an Arizona micro radio broadcaster had appealed an FCC fine (for broadcasting without a license) to the 9th Circuit Federal Court of Appeal, and the FCC had argued that the Court of Appeal had no jurisdiction over the case, and that it had to be heard by the District Court. The Court of Appeals agreed with the FCC and sent the case back to the District Court. Judge Wilken noted that the Arizona broadcaster had raised the same constitutional arguments in the Court of Appeals that Dunifer is raising. The Court ruled that in sending all of the issues in the Arizona case to the District Court, the Appeals Court recognized that the District Court had jurisdiction over all aspects of the case. In denying the Government's motion for an injunction "without prejudice," Judge Wilken ordered the Government to file a further brief on the question of whether the unconstitutionality of the FCC's ban on micro radio is a valid legal defense to an injunction against broadcasting at low power without a license. Dunifer's attorneys, Louis Hiken and Allen Hopper of San Francisco, will have an opportunity to rebut the government's arguments on this point. In response to pressure from the commercial broadcaster's lobby, the National Association of Broadcasters (N.A.B.), the FCC has in recent months been stepping up its campaign of harassment against the thousands of micro radio stations now on the air in this country. Hiken commented "The broadcast industry is clearly afraid of these little community stations which are speaking truth to its power. In trying to do the N.A.B.Õs bidding, the FCC demonstrates that it is nothing but an enforcement arm of the commercial broadcast industry and the multi-national corporations which own it." The National Lawyers Guild's Committee on Democratic Communications has represented the Lawyers Guild, San Francisco's Media Alliance, and the Women's International News Gathering Services as a "Friend of the Court" (Amicus) in this case. In its Friend of the Court brief the Lawyers Guild pointed out that FCC regulations make it impossible for all but the very wealthy to even apply for a broadcast license. This, they told the Court, is the equivalent of saying anyone could speak from a soap box in the park, but the box had to be made of gold. Guild attorney Peter Franck commented "In an era when Disney owns ABC, the world's largest defense contractor owns NBC and CNN merges with Time which merges with Warner, and when 'public' broadcasting is told to get its money from corporations, micro radio may be our last best hope for democracy on the air ways." He continued "Judge Wilken's decision is a courageous rejection of the Government's attempt to use a legal Catch-22 to avoid facing the fact that its ban on micro radio flies in the face of the Constitution." The legal team representing Dunifer and the Amicae are very pleased with Judge Wilken's reasoned and thorough decision denying the FCC's motion to have the case resolved without a trial on the merits. For almost 70 years, the FCC has catered solely to the interests of commercial corporate giants, through their mouthpiece, the National Association of Broadcasters. These are the pirates, who have stolen the airwaves from the American people, and who represent corporate interests valued at more than 60 billion dollars. Only the Pentagon, the Silicon Valley and the transportation industries possess the financial wallop represented by the NAB and its constituents. Judge Wilken's decision represents a vision of what it would be like for the American people to be given back their own voice. The decision suggests the likely unconstitutionality of the entire regulatory structure underlying the FCC's ban on low power radio. It forewarns of the total failure of that agency to carry out its statutory obligation to regulate the airwaves in the public interest -- that is, in the interest of the American people, rather than the media monopolies that control our airwaves. The legal team welcomes the opportunity to have a court identify the real pirates of the airwaves -- not the thousands of microradio broadcasters who seek to communicate with the people of their communities, but rather the billionaire commercial interests that control the airwaves as if they own them. Is it General Electric, Westinghouse and the Disney Corporation that have the right to control local community radio, or is that a right that belongs to all of the American people, regardless of economic status? FOR MORE INFORMATION, CONTACT: Peter Franck, Counsel for Amicus 415-415-995-5055 pfranck(a)hbmvr.com (days) pfranck(a)a.crl.com(evs, wknds) http://www.368Hayes.com/nlg.cdc.html Alan Korn, Counsel for Amicus 415-362-5700 aakorn(a)igc.org Stephen Dunifer, Free Radio Berkeley 415-644-3779 frbspd(a)crl.com http://www.freeradio.org Louis Hiken Counsel for Stephen Dunifer 415-575-3220 hiken(a)igc.org http://www.368Hayes.com Allen Hopper Counsel for Stephen Dunifer 415-575-3222 lazlo(a)igc.org http://www.368Hayes.com TO STEPHEN DUNIFER/FREE RADIO BERKELEY INFORMATION PAGE TO FREE RADIO BERKELEY LEGAL BATTLE PAGE TO NATIONAL LAWYERS GUILD INFORMATION PAGE TO THE OFFICIAL NATIONAL LAWYERS GUILD WEB SITE TO NLG COMMITTEE ON DEMOCRATIC COMMUNICATIONS PAGE TO FREE RADIO BERKELEY WEB SITE BACK TO LAW OFFICES AT 368 HAYES STREET

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MEGAVAPOUR ENCRYPTION [was CHALLENGE to Meganet VME...]
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- on or about 971108:1121, in <3.0.32.19971108112126.006dab28(a)ibcnet.com>, Matrix Encryption <matrix(a)meganet.com> was purported to have expostulated to perpetuate an opinion: >Dear Atilla, > normally I would not waste my time replying to an illiterate, ignorant flim-flam artist with a forced error [sic] of superiority to hide his/her paranoid insecurity. first: I am not, and have never been, a coward hiding behind a nym. I have been known by "Attila T. Hun" for more years than you have probably been alive. thus, the interNIC record: 20:56:01 attila 501-> whois hun.org Attila T. Hun (HUN5-DOM) 31 N. 700 E. Suite 134 St. George, UT 84770-3208 US Domain Name: HUN.ORG ... Record last updated on 31-Jul-97. AND Welcome to Primenet, Attila T. Hun Your last login was Thu Nov 13 22:19:11 PST 1997 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT attila p3 attila.infowest. 7:02AM 0 w attila processing mail folders msgs lines chars message group 21 2157 98506 .incoming_mail 00:02:25 attila 501-> finger attila(a)primenet.com [primenet.com] Login: attila Name: Attila T. Hun Directory: /user/a/attila Shell: /bin/bash Mailbox last read: Fri Nov 14 00:02 (MST) Plan: ENCODE ALL MESSAGES WITH 2048 BIT SIGNAL KEY: 2048/463141C9 now, all that being said... it has been asked... "attila, who the fuck are you?" "just nobody, I guess; "well, let's see... "I have a Piled higher and Deeper in Information Techniques from Zuerich (undergrad at Harvard in dual honors physical chemistry); "I have been around since before the dawn of arpanet, probably even longer than TCMay; in fact, I was born before Franklin D. Roosevelt dusted off Wendell L. Willkie; "I've never held a job; "but, I have personally coded more than a few 250,000+ line packages, which made me quite comfortable at one time, even if more than one did go down the black hole (along with countless other projects like the bit-slice hardware and firmware to replace B3500s in missile silos); "I have been the hatchet man in a few bleeding tech recoveries; "I have been detained for crypto offenses by the Feds; "I have been detained for 'treasonable' technology export; and, I have been charged; "a long time ago, in a land far, far away, there was more than one tour in "deep-deep black" special operations; the battalion commanding officer for the 'Let's do some serious killing...' permanently vacant eyes, misfits; "a combat chopper pilot; an instrument rated multi-engine pilot; a rider of a 102 cu. in. 115+ mph qtr. miler hawg on the street; "plus a few other reasons to guarantee an autobiography to be found on the fiction shelf. "if you really want to know... just play Hotel California, but I live in the high desert country of Utah with a bunch of gun nuts (only state in the Union where opening day of the hunting season is a state holiday). "So, who the 'fuck' am I? Just another aging 300 lb gorilla, "Oh, yeah, I forgot, I hold a license to practice before the court in a couple European countries... "So, who am I, really? "Nobody, I guess, just attila! "you probably will not be last, you may not be next, but you are certainly too late to have been first." --attila >Youe letter show us that you might not be aware of all the facts >surrounding VME. now, let's get several important points straight out front: 1. matriculate in a liberal arts program for English grammar and composition; your writing is unintelligible, often contradictory --no class. 2. until you publish the algorithm[s] and the implementation code, you do not have a product, you have "vapourware" in the encryption business --your trust model reputation capital is zero. 3. anybody can propose a specification; but over the last 25 years less than a handful of the hundreds proposed, have been bullet proof --so far; they can still fail. 4. a 2^20 keylength is an absurd dimension, more than 120Kbytes; the efficiency for an average 2K memo is less than 2%. just handling the data stream is a load on both the processor[s] and the communication link[s]. if you are still with me... 1. I do not believe your claim that you have placed your encryption with 250 of the top software companies; there are not 250 software companies in the world who could afford your outrageous $1 million base licensing be --particularly for what appears to be vapourware. Nobody in this business places that level of financial commitment on the PASS line in las vegas. and to pay this fee annually? well, dreams are still permissable; but outside of that forum, your hypothesis is a dream. corollary: the way to make money is to sell millions of licenses at $10, not get down on your knees and pray that someone will lay $1 million on you for something which has not been proven in the trenches. 2. I do not believe you _ever_ had the $1 million prize money for your alleged contest. 3. I do not believe you even have a working model or beta release of the software. 4. I do not believe you are doing anything other than putting us all on. now, if we can get past the above problems for YOU to solve, and/or demonstrate the efficacy thereof, to US, the final "problem" in your demonstrated inability to communicate can be addressed: I did NOT ask to participate in your EXPIRED CHALLENGE; that was obviously a farcical expression of egotistical tomfoolery or shenanigans --maybe even hooliganism. that not withstanding, you never had the money to pay a claim; your ego told you there would never be a claim. I DID CHALLENGE YOU to publish your algorithms, source code, and implementations to the group for evaluation. if your hypothesis survives a rigorous exercise and proof of its claims, you will be a hero. if your hypothesis, which from this perceptive point appears to be vapourware, goes down in flames, you will be no worse a fool than any of the last crop of bulletproof pretenders. and that, my friend is living in the real world, not even the fast lane. the rest of your letter is hokey. ...it's your move. attila out... ------------ balance of your original drivel follows ----------- >Well, lets start: >1) The is no "secret" behind the VME flowchart - we have filed with the US >patent office, and when it's approved, anybody in the world can see the >flowcharts and diagrams. >2) We have given a select 250 major software corporations ALL of the >flowcharts, diagrams and even a WORKING COPY of the VME application. >3) Why don't we do the same with the general public ? a copule of reasons: > a) Due to VME key size (1 million bits) we are forbidden by the US export laws >to put > it on the Internet, which is a world wide platform (see Paul Zimerman & PGP >case). > b) For the above reasons we can not put any of the flowcharts, diagrams or a >demo of > of the application without violating the law and getting Big Bro real >upset. > c) VME is currently targeted at the large corporations and a site licensing >fee is > currently a $1,000,000 annualy, so we have no "General Use" version for >public use. >But, as I mentioned before, the top 250 software corporations DO HAVE the >flowcharts, diagrams and a working copy of VME. Therefore, we do have a team of >the leading cryptographers working on VME to credit or discredit our claims, >and that was the challenge all about to begin with. >Thank you for your interest in VME. >Saul Backal, >Project Manager. p.s. - I've noticed too late of the title to your email - just for your knowledge, the million dollars challenge have ended May 15,1997 and the current challenge bear no monetary prize. Take Care, Saul. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQBVAwUBNGwYjrR8UA6T6u61AQHMTQH9HWjpk7vS6YfvyXRgQdy70X4YoptHA2Q4 asWcwSr962+JHNqbNPEgaBJbZWT4vesR+NsOtOCUNy4ylatwO3WeLA== =ymMn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Nader on CBS
by Carol Anne Cypherpunk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ralph was just on CBS "Up-To-The-Minute", bashing MS.... I think it is running every hour, so you might still be able to get it on the West Coast. I wonder though, if all this "Bill-Bashing" is somehow causing problems in the financial markets. Yet "Bill-Bashing" in the political sense doesn't seem to have done that. hmmmm... http://uttm.com/drive/ is their site, and there is a RealAudio clip available for the day owls..... Member Internet Society - Certified Mining Co. Guide - Webmistress *********************************************************************** Carol Anne Braddock (cab8) carolann(a)censored.org 206.165.50.96 My Homepage The Cyberdoc *********************************************************************** Will lobby Congress for Food & Expenses!!!

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Re: MEGAVAPOUR ENCRYPTION [was CHALLENGE to Meganet VME...]
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Attila T. Hun wrote: > on or about 971108:1121, in <3.0.32.19971108112126.006dab28(a)ibcnet.com>, > Matrix Encryption <matrix(a)meganet.com> was purported to have > expostulated to perpetuate an opinion: > >Dear Atilla, > 1. I do not believe your claim that you have placed your > encryption with 250 of the top software companies > 2. I do not believe you _ever_ had the $1 million prize > money for your alleged contest. > 3. I do not believe you even have a working model or beta > release of the software. > 4. I do not believe you are doing anything other than > putting us all on. I shook down their entire web site and could find no indication that these fuckers even existed before Oct. 30/97. (Shortly before their announcement of the supposed million dollar encryption challenge that expired in May/97, which no cryptographer I know has ever seemed to have heard of.) It is also interesting that there seems to be no actual mention of real, live people connected to their corporation, whom one can contact. (Although there is contact information for their press agents.) Meganet is either one of the best Bad-Encryption spoofs to the list, to date, or one of the best Bad-Encryption scams going. Maybe Maganet was formed by the press agent that DataETRetch fired. That would explain why they only seemed to have offered their challenge to corporations with no cypherpunks in them. I will shortly be announcing my Million Dollar Encryption Challenge which, unfortunately, expired on Jan 1, 1754. (However, if you check the Document Source on the files at my web site, they will confirm that the HTML document announcing the challenge was created in 1753.) BaitrickS MegaNut <bs(a)meganut.com> "Navel Ho' encryption products since 1753."

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Re: Br'er Tim and the Bug Hole
by goddesshera＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed, Nov 12, 1997 at 01:16:36AM -0800, Blanc wrote: > Kent Krispin wrote: > > >Tim, like many, rationalizes his simmering anger by blaming it all on > >the "bastids in the gubmit". But it doesn't take much insight to see > >that there is something a little deeper going on, something a little > >sad. > .................................................. > > > By jove, I think I've "got" it - there *is* something deeper going on here: > > Tim is really an undercover 'narc' - through his provocative remarks he's > actually encouraging all the violent terrorists on the list to come out of > their lurking holes and reveal themselves. Then he's going to turn them > all in for a cash reward, which he'll use to buy more high-tech stock. > > Yeah, that's it! Could be, almost. He wouldn't be a narc -- he would work for another agency -- and he doesn't have to turn them in: they reveal themselves. In any case, he serves the function, whether deliberately or not. This message was automatically remailed. The sender is unknown, unlogged, and nonreplyable. Send complaints and blocking requests to <goddesshera(a)juno.com>.

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Re: Tim May's offensive racism (was: about RC4)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:42 PM 11/14/97 +0900, Joichi Ito wrote: >Oh and by the way: > >Article 21 of the Constitution of Japan > >Freedom of assembly and association as well as speech, press >and all other forms of expression are guaranteed. >2) No censorship shall be maintained, nor shall the secrecy of >any means of communication be violated. > >"nya nya na nya nya..." Is that Japanese for "Wassenaar"?

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