December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Overcoming War by Making Friends
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> wrote: >Monty Cantsin writes: > >> What the Net and cypherpunkly tools create is a world in which there >> are not easily identified disjoint sets because any particular net of >> relationships that a person has tends to overlap the relationship nets >> of other people who have a dissimilar set of relationships. >> >> This is a more reliable and robust world to live in because there is a >> great deal of redundancy. That is, the elites of two countries cannot >> conspire to use their respective sets of serfs as cannon fodder in >> some ill advised adventure. It's hard to get excited about a war run >> by people who are not your friends against people who happen to live >> in another part of the world but with whom you have a relationship. > >Good point, but it's important to realize that these new attitudes >are only available to people who have access to the tools. Much of >the world is still trapped in a dark age, without access to the light >brought by tools for communication. Powerful interests seek to keep >them that way. Until that changes, the old mindset of >us-against-them will continue to be a threat to peace. True. However, to the extent that we and our friends do not participate, there will be that much less war. Even if we fail to end all wars, even the prevention of a single war (or the shortening of one war!) will be worth the effort. "War is not healthy for children and other living things." I've mentioned the newspaper "The Aurora" which was active during the Adams administration. A strong argument can be made that this one newspaper prevented a war with France and the introduction of Monarchy into the United States. Considering the relatively small number of people involved with this list, the prevention of one war would be a fantastic achievement. Consider the benefit that the prevention of World War I would have brought the world. Millions of people would not have died before their time. Millions of other people would not have lead lives after the war of dejection and sorrow either due to their own direct involvement in the war or that of their friends and relatives. Communism would probably not have arisen sparing the lives of millions. World War II would probably not have occurred again sparing the lives of millions. The development of germ warfare, chemical warfare, and nuclear warfare would have proceeded far more slowly. We would be living in a far wealthier and more peaceful world. >We as cypherpunks must be leaders in encouraging wider access to >communications and the tools which manage information. It's not >right to target our message narrowly to the militias and racists who >gravitate towards anti-government causes. We must be inclusive, >offering encouragement to other cultures, other races, other >countries. Anti-Japanese, anti-Jewish, anti-Black, anti-Arab >sentiments will only hinder our success, and likewise with our >emphasis on violence, killing, and death as solutions to problems. Here I am afraid we disagree. The world has too many damned leaders! I also believe that it is a better practice to explore ideas that are interesting and discuss them honestly rather than to attempt to sweeten the ideas for consumption by large numbers of people. The people who are receptive to our ideas will understand. Those who are not will become slaves. As for being inclusive to foreigners, it's a pretty inclusive list. After all, anybody in the world who can operate majordomo is allowed to participate! You can't do much better than that. It's my guess that most current readers of the list don't especially care where people come from or even their exact ideological alignment, so long as they have interesting things to say. Finally, your perception that there is an "emphasis on violence, killing, and death" is not accurate. What is the cypherpunk body count? Last I checked it was zero. Out of the thousands of people who have been on the list, can you think of a single act of violence perpetrated by a list member? The only ones I know about happened in wars sponsored by the U.S. government before the list was even formed. >The fact that other cultures are often repressive in their own right >is no excuse. The tools we offer will help them become more >open-minded and inclusive. But we must set an example ourselves. It >is a tragedy that the message of hate is being propagated within a >technological movement which should foster openness and >enlightenment. We can do better than this. Maybe it would be best if you set an example in setting an example for the rest of us to follow. ;-) My sense of your article, feel free to correct me if I am wrong, is that you see the Cypherpunks as a more or less cohesive group with a coherent agenda and a face to present to the outside world. I prefer to look at it as a mailing list to which anybody in the world may subscribe. I am certainly not responsible for other people's work on it, for better or for worse. And, I believe we will get more done if I, for one example, think for myself about the most useful thing my time could be spent doing. If 100 cypherpunks choose one leader and follow his instructions will we really accomplish more than if 100 cypherpunks think imaginatively and creatively about what they themselves will do? I doubt it. Besides which, leaders are choke points. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNHIOEpaWtjSmRH/5AQHKKgf+KTswuyd3m/tfS/qqg+yAijVavC6KjLs7 XMuAtqA1WrjhWjr+ZG762/QUUyGjFC5RH+fWn7d0EL3Bde+sKrnEWzYijfgof4/j gbbSKEPvm9orrLOHy7sExHMUeqhCTorqizgNuR2tsDOGAdLtgwuotSk7GhjHRIS9 4wrSWydw1/w5aW7uL/EMXUoffzNvojA+ODfmoCCbvOVkYYk5s51rRUh7WLqlVx9c AKvGNsiKCG9rqCaqxcNLuy1wTptaHxGrDKEgU+XanbIUcVSj4sOTvlP91N++4MiK rRRJGI/v9kbgD8lsumcHg6i/VP1tdemC4lRfbtBDqZoLNIZ0SmgZdg== =5+a7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Almost a good case for censorship
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I saw something in the supermarket that made me almost wish for censorship. The current issue of the Weekly Worldwide News has a picture of Jane Reno is a swim suit. Be afraid. Be very afraid. --- | "That'll make it hot for them!" - Guy Grand | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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3rd Great Awakening
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> X-within-URL: http://www.fourthturning.com/html/third_great_awakening.html > The Third Great Awakening (Second Turning, 1886-1908), began with the > Haymarket Riot and the student missionary movement, rose with agrarian > protest and labor violence, and climaxed in Bryans revivalist > candidacy (in 1896). Gilded Age realism came under harsh attack from > trust-blasting muckrakers, Billy Sunday evangelicals, new woman > feminists, and chautauqua dreamers. After radicalizing and splitting > the Progressive movement, the passion cooled when William Howard Taft > succeeded Teddy Roosevelt in the White House.

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Re: FCPUNX:Tim plans to kill a federal judge
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:10 PM 11/14/97 -0700, Tim May wrote: > By the way, the same can be said about the work of Heidegger, a thinker who > has had some influence on me. Whenever I cite anything Heidegger ever said, > I can count on some numbskull to parrot the "Heidegger was a Nazi" shtick. Probably because Heidegger *was* a Nazi, who pranced around in full drag Nazi uniform and sent certain of his colleagues to the concentration camps. To very crudely oversimplify the relationship between Heideggers philosophy and Nazism, it goes like this. No objective, only the intersubjective, therefore the community defines reality, therefore truth is merely relative to the community. Yeah, I know it is more complex than that, but it still boils down to debates being resolved by hanging people from the ceiling with piano wire rather than by appeal to the external world. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: Stylometry
by Randall Farmer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here (here being at the bottom of the message :) is the code for the stylometry program. Note that I specified that the stylometry also involved a calculator -- that's because the shell script only processes your data to get the numbers you need out; the tough part is still up to you. After it runs, you have A. a file, ./counts, containing wordcounts like so. (The first line is the ever-present quirk, which occurs because I have yet to master sed.) 1689 550 THE 344 AND 316 TO ... and B. Output to the screen, like so: [wc/uwc] 1738 12561 77775 <-- Lines/words/bytes for the original file 2557 5113 31226 <-- First part is the number of *different* words used in the document, ignore the rest. [word counts] <-- A juicy excerpt from the counts file 550 THE 344 AND 316 TO 271 A 195 OF [punc frequency: comma/period/hyphen/quote/semi] 584 <-- Number of commas 1536 <-- Periods 79 <-- Dashes 315 <-- Double-quote marks 10 <-- Semicolons [and/or/but as sentence-splitters] 24 <-- Occurrences of "and," (including comma -- that's the point) 12 <-- "or," 7 <-- "but," There are too many things you can calculate from this output for me to enumerate (although the ratios of words to periods, commas, semicolons, and conjunctions as sentence splitters are rather useful...compare two or three of a known author's documents to find his/her characteristics, then compare that to your unknown and see if you've got a match). [Note that the whole sed mess is supposed to be one line] #!/bin/sh # prep: Prepares a text for analysis sed "y/abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz/ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ/;s/[^A-Z']/ /g;s/ / /g;s/ / /g;s/ / /g;s/ / /g;s/ / /g;s/ / /g;s/ / /g;s/ / /g;s/ / /g;s/ / /g;s/ / /g;s/ / /g;s/ / /g;s/ / /g;y/ /\n/;"<$1|sort|uniq -c|sort -rn>./counts echo [wc/uwc] wc<$1 wc<./counts echo [word counts] grep -wie "the" -e "and" -e "to" -e "a" -e "of" < counts echo [punc frequency: comma/period/hyphen/quote/semi] grep -c ","<$1 grep -c "."<$1 grep -c "-"<$1 grep -c \"<$1 grep -c "\;"<$1 echo [and/or/but as sentence-splitters] grep -c "and,"<$1 grep -c "or,"<$1 grep -c "but,"<$1 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Randall Farmer rfarmer(a)hiwaay.net http://hiwaay.net/~rfarmer

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Billboards as Sight Bites
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Duncan Frissell wrote: >Tim May wrote: >> It's time to "Just Say No" to the U.N. The John Birch Society makes >> more sense every day. > >US out of the UN and UN out of the US. Yup, seen the billboard. Evidently the JBS is starting a new billboard campaign on December 1st calling for the impeachment of Clinton. Nerthus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNHMDvOFWwZe05jcJAQF88Af9HdeeJWJ6hIzFN2gnBmF7bXtPg+MDWXqr K1GnOaqE+Vt5+GfJ19s4gnYBJwkGStlcVrN3sZDHyMIO5Ok0Zzov9NCCoO0TI4Vu DOEHM3qCnJLG/kfh2fa3GPJAFYxUH6uHyscu+yxhEmlx1AaL+a+A3aGn1nHaODu7 v1bkezS2zHRJ2778Q9kz5UzC7YcPjhIo7bGnxM0Thr/vb3X9o6N0OxzYckuy1WZg e3o2vKsqmOJN+bgIed8+K695zH2suymP5xpou22LGpkkVz8BHKHXKVkrGc/IOEMD c1LmPJjBLHZ32Iw1gifVRaPkfMQzY/gID/p90s3zCGSqQrZjPeArZw== =R7y5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Factor a 2048-bit number
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- "I know it is wet And the sun is not sunny. But we can have Lots of good fun that is funny!" This number is the product of two large primes: 26033143779667200325575872888095239079246638261715251025882778261061527750754689886186634470393458067971467246298195626814707422649006575326598789422416672513841540101436913518354325965591664197141268653142721096667415953906554803574814020439328026212412992491918134617881658357074747456933861654849832810755452195562122302074169491126905810585763470157682833868925415992684292240723488274475606146938817977205079259576892680373975171532967403598743810959007294946286128925732513282841571521786211052543209061869205522822739184472518973988412241386534914204118049999553410479040950698778437046093623423391818191485363 Yet, I believe that an enterprising individual will be able to factor it. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNHIVmpaWtjSmRH/5AQFqQQf/UmHeMd3ZFf0m4FV5mIhuQE5bpyphaPaY D9NNcBcBWcq/8tacFPJ4RDAy6VH0mZCqZT8Nr6je2KiMbCWXB565N8oa2dExetk1 sGB+28sNbY025RhC6MAZOAMiAWf9P8OBqTQzpF1QR2GImxRPzvvpsgSNLzlSiEee 1EiLF049BWQqZvNq7M33lK3C21D3tctB3J3u5oLD+3Gqi8Z54ECreU6fBAh54dZf GOdvVvCXwMd7+etz2S0zNCFxidSOc/8Dpoj70CPd8tUN2MzMd74eipz0Su7lxtlo E5cC76+KZQY4rd1KlyAqfypxFpBEZwZ3i2HOeT/XhCWC8HtaRx/jaw== =Q7FZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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News from Music Boulevard
by http://www.musicblvd.com/ 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Disposable Remailers
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Jonathan Wienke wrote: >Woodwose (who appears to have borrowed my last name for his "True Name") >appears to have done a variation of this--except that if there are >complaints about messages being sent from woodwose(a)mailexcite.com, I doubt >anything will happen other than the woodwose account at mailexcite.com >being closed. Hence, his "disposable remailer" claim. Any shmuck can log >on and input a fake name, address, and demographic data to create a new >account at hotmail, mailexcite, or juno. In this way, as existing >remailers are harassed out of existence, new ones can be created on a daily >or hourly basis. It would probably be interesting to find out how much >info these outfits collect (cookies, etc.) that could be definitively >linked to a True Name. I played around with Hotmail recently, and I didn't pick up any new cookies in my cookies file. The only distinguishing information that Hotmail seems to collect (aside from the demographic info you feed them when you open an account) is the IP address you log in from. A public proxy is sufficient to shield your IP address. I created the account from one IP address and sent the email during a separate session from another IP address. The X-Originating-IP header showed only the second address. I don't know if Hotmail keeps track of all IP addresses that access each account. Question: can anyone suggest some information/studies regarding the security of public proxies? Thanks. Nerthus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNHJtpeFWwZe05jcJAQElEQf+MbBbTWtbiRnekJ9jIyyaTfDX3s2KV8Qm jGERIyCBF1OcZ1l35ZMm0xGKOCpGAWOBZVs/1zHzgTKB6Pxk0UZIP8+2nRmS4Dqt 7AxXa4zufVl9xVgWirCab86MvmTIrDlOdga8YZKS2h4RzLPPvo/ZySUqgjUzH0g2 y2LzKGv5KqxkgY/rRIg95I9Doqwg0iRsN2ieVXqI9E//+ZByAQpopLIADcDus4Ez UGFl6P1Ix8eLr2DBeg6nLRS84cTJs6MqAiQsHPaKUAHkS72bgv1t5lTxPcMtt6ah NK5bJfs9HEY20RXtN2kASXBkGjAzC2LMNIZ0heqmJRB471AZ4j30lg== =FOsD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Report on UN conference on Internet and racism
by Mikhael Frieden 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:27 PM 11/18/97 -0600, William H. Geiger III wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >In <3.0.16.19971118231927.0dc71f6e(a)pop.mindspring.com>, on 11/18/97 > at 11:34 PM, Mikhael Frieden <mikhaelf(a)mindspring.com> said: >>At 06:53 PM 11/18/97 -0600, William H. Geiger III wrote: >>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>I think that there is plenty of case law of extending constutional >>>protections to non-citizens. One that comes to mind were the rulings >>>against California inwhich the courts ruled the they were obligated to >>>provide schooling and social services to illegal aliens (a really fucked >>>rulling IMNSHO but if some good can come out of it no sense not making use >>>of it). >> In a much more fundamental sense, if they were not given >>constitutional protections they really could be rounded up and bussed >>across the border. >And this would be a BadThing(TM)?? It would be a good thing. But the former was postulating civil rights to medical care and such. I mentioned constitutional rights. Once they are here they here they are entitled to a fair trial before being kicked out. And as to bail, if they are illegally here, what is possibly the risk of flight? To Mexico? Is not that the point? That is why the INS gives them a trial date and releases them as they must be treated as right-protected citizens. And the objection to release is fleeing juristidiction under the law. It is a Catch-22. Cheech being born in East LA to the contrary not withstanding. The movie protested reality after it was gone. (If it was Chong, the facts do not change.) -=-=- The 2nd guarantees all the rest.

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