December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

ITAR a la Canada
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone know if Canada has accepted all of the restrictions under ITAR? Specifically, U.S. companies must (I assume) identify your domain before permitting access to restricted versions of software. Does the same apply for Canada?

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PGP and GMR
by Matthew Maxson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- All, Sorry about that blank post. It was qued up to send and I did not realize it I am new to this list and cryptogrophy, and have a few questions. 1)what is CMR? 2) how does it relate to PGP? 3) what is GAK? I have gathered that it is a back door that will encrypt all messags to the goverment (or some other official body) as well as encrypting it to the recipiant. Also, I assume that PGP 5.X has added this to their encryption scheme to allow companies to read employee e-mail. Does PGP 2.6.2 have this back door into it? tnx for your help. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNFYSjQ5f1xn5SKgdAQEEAwP/VGRd2CcQubkDAQH7G6lOU7ShvxjqBYke 4ZJ3RyMLvWkTIFtJJIpIY0fRtkkw9OL0dxQdfCSyk/gNedh7viTEB5ozTwBT7jfd Jaz4euv+XHuvVfTXTI6Iy+i0XufRaxGxX9sn8vj6UKdLa+L/nzEwRsbyDOpASqvK Pb4t7jJj0FE= =wPLv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- <>< e-mail: maxson1(a)marshall.edu www: http://webpages.marshall.edu/~maxson1 My ham call is KC8CDT.

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Source code obfuscation
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is anyone familiar with tools that can be used to obscure source code so that it builds, but no longer contains comments or useful variable or procedure names? Thanks, -- Lucky Green <shamrock(a)cypherpunks.to> PGP encrypted email preferred. "Tonga? Where the hell is Tonga? They have Cypherpunks there?"

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Use a Mac...Go to Jail / Re: Saving money
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Brian B. Riley wrote: > Brian B. Riley --> http://www.macconnect.com/~brianbr > For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> > > "...Those of you who turned your swords into plowshares will soon > find yourselves under the yokes of those of us who kept our swords..." > -- author unknown I have always envisioned Mac users as sitting at their computers and drawing flowers while they bounce a cute baby on their knee. Lately, however, I have seen increasing militantism from a wide variety of Mac users, from the quote above to "MacNuke DC" ranters. Is this a 'Death of the '60's' thing, or a sign of 'Armageddon'?

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Another CDR member?
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I received a subscription today from cypherpunks(a)comsec.com. I believe there is another node on the CDR. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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(off-topic--delete now) Re: Search warrants and Senate hearing o
by Michael Sims 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> If you're going to respond to Tim's post, you should copy him or > cypherpunks... I've attached your whole message below... > > I will respond to one point, though: > > >The free market approach won't keep medical records private. > > We haven't tried that approach yet, at least in the late 20th > century. The wealth of federal regulation and involvement in health > care is breathtaking. Ever since after WWII when for tax reasons > businesses began bundling insurance and the rise of > medicare/medicaid, well, the "free market" in healthcare has become > much less robust. (Fortunately Clinton's socialistic health care > plan was derailed.) > > In other words, the reason a "free market" approach may not work > right now is because the market isn't free. Declan, every part of the "health-care market" that people are complaining about, the parts of it that routinely and for fiscal reasons violate people's privacy, are completely and utterly dollar-driven and do not result from big nasty government making any laws. That HMO shlepping your medical record around to a dozen adminstrators to decide whether or not to pay for your care? Those huge insecure insurance databases with information about what diseses you're genetically susceptible to? Those intrusive questions and psychological screening tests at job interviews? Those urinalysis tests which screen for the presence of illegal drugs, undisclosed prescription drugs and nicotine, with the intention of firing you if *any* of the above test positive? All are examples of a free market in health care information. Oh, there are a few examples of government-caused privacy violations of health-care information. I'm thinking of mandatory HIV/AIDS disclosure laws, Medicare information, and the fact that the government still hasn't figured out that putting all the health-care information they can get ahold of into a big database is a bad idea. These can certainly represent gross threats to individuals' privacy. (Haven't CDT and EPIC discussed this from time to time? Though not extensively on either of the lists this is sent to, where it's assuredly off-topic.) Yet, these aren't the abuses that people complain about /today/. You're confusing services and information. The US has the closest to a free-market in health-care information of any of the industrialized nations. And people suffer for it every day. You can say it's cool, it's Libertarianism in action, or you can think it stinks. But don't try to blame those abuses on the government. I found it astonishing that Tim May wrote: "All we need to ensure medical privacy is a return to the right of contract. I pay Dr. Jones for his services and for his agreement to not pass my medical file around to his buddies, or to sell it to advertisers, or to let "counter-terrorism" agents snoop around in his files. Sounds fair to me." Tim, you've got that right today, with a few minor exceptions like gunshot wounds. You have it! You can insist on only going to a doctor, or only belonging to an HMO, that won't share your information around town! The government has nothing to do with it! This "problem" you're talking about is solely a market failure resulting from a nearly-pure, barely-adulterated free-market --- completely confidential health services are hard to obtain because they cost more and there isn't a sufficient market! Those privacy violations occur because it helps companies make a profit, which outweighs your measly privacy concerns! Gawd, libertarians complaining about a market failure. I may cry. -- Michael Sims

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RE: PGP Employee on MKR
by Fisher Mark 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Harka wrote: >The "just don't work for them if 'ya don't like it"-argument will >last about 4 weeks...the approximate time a human can survive >without eating. (or a couple of weeks less, if you have kids) > >I.e. unless you are the super-duper, three-times nobel-prize-winner >(with lots of money in stocks), who can AFFORD to choose employers >that freely, you will be DAMN GLAD to have a job AT ALL, regardless >of their policies! Start your own business. It will take sacrifice, but it can be done. It doesn't even need to be in your day-job profession, for that matter -- of the 4 start-ups I've been in, the biggest crash-and-burn was in the computer business (I seem to think mainly like a "practical researcher" rather than a businessperson when it comes to computers...). One of her problems is that teaching is basically a monopoly profession (a fact we are dealing with in our own family) -- there is no second, third etc. public school system as an employer. Another is that she is living in the confines of New York City, although I would think there should be places within 60 miles of her ex-husband where the cost of living should be significantly less. (In the Indianapolis area, she could be buying a house on her income -- maybe through a contract sale by owner rather than through the more common "Realtor" scenario, but buying a house nonetheless.) "Chance favors only the prepared mind", Louis Pasteur once said -- we took advantage of a new local trend 2 years ago, got a guaranteed sale on our large house (2300 sq.ft. with basement), went to a small house (1600 sq.ft. without basement), using the money left over to develop some ground. (All while helping my mother-in-law cope after my father-in-law's death.) There are opportunities out there -- you just have to look for them. They may take a lot of your time (so I advise looking for opportunities that you don't mind or even like exercising at 10pm at night after working a day job and caring for your children), but they do exist. ========================================================== Mark Leighton Fisher Thomson Consumer Electronics fisherm(a)indy.tce.com Indianapolis, IN "Their walls are built of cannon balls, their motto is 'Don't Tread on Me'"

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Re: Another CDR member?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Choate wrote: > > Hi, > > I received a subscription today from cypherpunks(a)comsec.com. > > I believe there is another node on the CDR. Do you think it is malignant?

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Tim's worst nightmare.,..
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- here we go again, the AP wire just laid on this morning's action at Roby IL --it sounds to close to Ruby Ridge for my taste. This is beyond police harassment and save face for what was a civil action and will now end up with the poor lady wearing a ciminal jacket longer than her life. October 27, 1997 Woman in Standoff Shoots at Police Filed at 10:12 a.m. EST By The Associated Press ROBY, Ill. (AP) -- Gunfire rang out again at the home of a woman involved in a month-long standoff with authorities who have a court order to bring her in for psychological testing. Shirley Allen shot a police dog through the nose Sunday after officers threw pepper spray into her farmhouse, state police director Terrance Gainer said. well, wouldn't you if the dog is put in your house... She also fired a shot when police used mirrors on long sticks to peer in, but no one was injured, Gainer said. well, wouldn't you? Gainer said sound detection equipment had picked up a conversation Mrs. Allen had with herself on Friday in which she sounded as if she was ``moving closer to suicide,'' followed by a long period of inactivity. 33 days the lady has stood off a virtual army who cut off her power, water, and telephone --wouldn't you talk to yourself for company. hell, who wouldn't commit suicide rather than face the scheiBesturm she faces when they finally "bag" her. That prompted police to drive an all-terrain vehicle around her back yard Sunday, break her windows and a sliding glass door, throw in nine canisters of pepper spray and send in a German shepherd wired for sound. She fired once at the dog, Gainer said. The dog was taken to a veterinary hospital for treatment. shit, let's airdrop her a dozen TOW missles. she can put them to good use. nine canisters of pepper spray --who the hell do the think they are? Los Angeles police beating Rodney King? Mrs. Allen, 51, has attracted the sympathy of many neighbors, and her case has become a rallying point for those who compare it to Ruby Ridge and Waco as an example of overzealous law enforcement. she needs more than sympathy, she needs some action! Gainer said Mrs. Allen's actions show that she is dangerous and prove that state police cannot back off and leave her alone because she is a threat to herself and to others. she wasnt dangerous until the bastards violated her privacy; all over the fact a greedy nephew wants to get control of the valuable 40 some acres. most of the family say she's fine, but the liberal press does not report that fairly. The standoff, about 20 miles southeast of Springfield, started Sept. 22 when she used a shotgun to resist sheriff's deputies serving commitment papers obtained by her family. Relatives said Mrs. Allen, a former nurse, had become increasingly depressed after her husband died of pancreatic cancer in 1989 and recently began refusing to see or talk to her mother and brother. hell, if your relatives are being assholes, you can turn the switch off there, too. a telephone is solely for calling out with --and connecting to the net.... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQBVAwUBNFS9zrR8UA6T6u61AQFctgH+OKh2NXtQrujbVnCmIQu7NVcyih66RgKe VdC36i2c30GRxCwLtXWWRKz5FXcAXXoTzlWPQ+7qHS+PtcE7sjiXOA== =HOw2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: (off-topic--delete now) HMO Market (URL)
by Paul Spirito 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think the subject is too complex & off-topic to discuss here, but http://www.slate.com/medicalexaminer/97-10-24/medicalexaminer.asp is an excellent exposition of the problems with HMOs, using a market-based analysis. Paul "The fear is of profit deflation emanating from Asia."

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