December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: One Ryder Truck--One Vote
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <3.0.2.32.19970625185156.030f3bbc(a)popd.ix.netcom.com>, on 06/25/97 at 06:51 PM, Bill Stewart <stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com> said: >At 05:53 AM 6/25/97 -0700, Nobody wrote: >> Voting is the new Catch-22/Damned if you do, damned if you don't, >>etc, etc. It's time for a new non-candidate that is a cross between >>Pat Paulsen ("If elected, I will not serve.") and Abby Hoffmean >>("Steal This Book."). >> My inclination is for a candidate named "Fuck You!", but I'm sure >>someone else can come up with a more creative candidate. >Wavy Gravy has occasionally run a "Nobody For President" campaign. "Who'd >be the best President?" "Nobody!" >"Who's going to balance the budget?" "Nobody!" >"Who's going to fix the schools?" "Nobody!" >"Who can you trust with the Bomb?" "Nobody!" >"Which candidate cares about the poor?" "Nobody!" >A few years back, the Libertarian Party was trying to get >on the ballot in Washington State by running a governor campaign. They >didn't make it, because they lost the protest votes to a candidate who >changed his name to "Absolutely Nobody". >Absolutely Nobody got about 7% of the vote. >(The unfortunate followup story later ran in the SF Chron >under the title "Absolutely Nobody died today"; he was in >politics because he was an AIDS activist, and had the disease.) >During the '92 elections, I was considering getting >Frank Zappa on the ballot in New Jersey. He'd already dropped out of the >race due to his cancer, but it only takes 1000 signatures there, which >would have been an afternoon's work at Rutgers. >He's dead now, but he probably would enjoy running anyway :-) Is there anything against putting a deadman on the ballot? Seems like the ultimate protest elect a deadman! What the hell they can vote in Chicago why shouldn't they have representation. :) - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM7HUto9Co1n+aLhhAQF1lgP9EHLWWH525WU8Ia+7u2kOQA5kQLrAMUr7 eZDVEQ3GeK37UwSGNtYigsKdA8dTp0r5ciqdV8H+vOiQkP37Mxy2mVNLvrlqSoTF kjNbUPyPMfM9y7DTEysQerRb6QTlGQqZ7AT6Z4k9t7PM5vnbGjUTbvL9+rG+x/DY dUvZQdY9Tus= =w8R+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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by Gina-Lisa＠logatome.micronet.fr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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One Ryder Truck--One Vote
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Greg Broiles wrote: > Many of the exhortations to the > public consist mostly of "Hey! Get involved! Vote!", even where this > passive "voting" stuff created the very problems which led to the > exhortations. Voting is the new Catch-22/Damned if you do, damned if you don't, etc, etc. It's time for a new non-candidate that is a cross between Pat Paulsen ("If elected, I will not serve.") and Abby Hoffmean ("Steal This Book."). My inclination is for a candidate named "Fuck You!", but I'm sure someone else can come up with a more creative candidate. (Q: "If elected, what will you do for me?" / A: "Fuck You!") > Sure, let's write memes. But let's write memes that encourage people to > solve their own problems and avoid the use of unnecessary force. Of course, in the real world even the use of the minimum force necessary will probably result in damage to windows in buildings adjoining the Congressional and Senate buildings. Me Again "Hard Weapons, Soft Targets, No Compromise."

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Secure Public Networks Act of the U.S
by David Downey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This little gem is extremely scarey, most specifically Title II Sec 207 and Title III Sec 307 most of all!! I have been on the phone with Congressman Jack Quin of NY, Senator D'Almato of NY, my local Common Counselman, and the U.S Attorny's Office (They will be the ones tasked with prosecuting offenders under this Bill.). It seems that not one of them knows anything about it. And they are currently IN Washington!!! I was even told by Congressman Quin's Office that no such bills as the ProCODE, ProCODE II, or the McCain/ Kerrey Bills have been presented to Congress! Talk about your basic denial! I have provided a copy of the original HTML version of the SPNA as proposed by McCain and Kerrey. This was pulled directly from Senator Kerrey's website. --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------

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SF RALLY Against Internet Censorship, Thursday or Friday
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Looks like the CDA decision is going to happen soon... ----- Begin Included Message ----- From: Stanton McCandlish <mech(a)eff.org> Subject: SF RALLY Against Internet Censorship Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:02:21 -0700 (PDT) X-URL: http://www.eff.org/~mech To: bayff(a)eff.org (bayff mailing list) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:05:16 -0800 From: "--Todd Lappin-->" <telstar(a)wired.com> To: telstar(a)wired.com Subject: SF RALLY Against Internet Censorship Please help spread the word in the Bay Area! --Todd Lappin--> Section Editor WIRED Magazine -- Please forward until June 26, 1997 -- ___________________________________________________________________________ *** RALLY AGAINST INTERNET CENSORSHIP *** ** Supreme Court Decision on CDA Expected Wednesday or Thursday ** AMENDMENT I: "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble." *** RALLY AGAINST INTERNET CENSORSHIP *** ** South Park, San Francisco, California -- 1 PM ** ___________________________________________________________________________ In February 1996, President Clinton made Internet censorship the law of the land by signing the Communications Decency Act. The CDA -- a blatant affront to free speech -- has since become a symbol of the ignorance and contempt the American political establishment reserves for Internet users and their constitutional rights. Now, more than one year later, the United States Supreme Court is poised to decide the fate of free speech for the 21st century. On Wednesday or Thursday of this week, the Supreme Court will issue a decision in the landmark case of ACLU vs. Reno. On the day the decision comes down, The Electronic Frontier Foundation, Wired Ventures, and the Citizens Internet Empowerment Coalition invite you to join us for a RALLY to show your support for free speech online. PLEASE JOIN US to discuss the free speech implications of this ruling with plaintiffs and organizers of the legal challenge. ___________________________________________________________________________ WHEN: On the day the Supreme Court issues its decision. EITHER.... Wednesday June 25, 1997 *OR* Thursday June 26, 1997 at 1 PM For up-to-the-minute information on the status of the decision, please visit http://www.ciec.org WHERE: South Park (between 2nd and 3rd, Bryant St. and Brannan St.) San Francisco. SPEAKERS (Tentative List): Bruce Ennis, the lead attorney who argued this case before the Supremes Mike Godwin, Electronic Freedom Foundation Judith Krug, American Library Association Sameer Parekh, C2Net Todd Lappin - Wired Magazine BRING: Attention-grabbing posters, signs, and banners that demonstrate your committment to free speech and expression, and your feelings about Congress. ___________________________________________________________________________ FOR UPDATED INFORMATION ON THIS RALLY: http://www.ciec.org/events/sf FOR BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT THE CDA: http://www.ciec.org http://wwww.hotwired.com/special/indecent/ http://www.eff.org/blueribbon.html ___________________________________________________________________________ (NOTE: We are *actively* seeking participation and support from ALL members of the Bay Area media, online, Internet, new media, and telecommunications communities. Please forward this message to anyone you think should attend, and to all relevant mailing lists and newsgroups.) MEDIA CONTACT: Lessley Anderson, Wired Magazine, 415-276-5162, lessley(a)wired.com -- Stanton McCandlish mech(a)eff.org Electronic Frontier Foundation Program Director http://www.eff.org/~mech +1 415 436 9333 x105 (v), +1 415 436 9333 (f) Are YOU an EFF member? http://www.eff.org/join ----- End Included Message ----- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list or news, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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More Supreme Court CDA predictions (fwd)
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 21:04:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: More Supreme Court CDA predictions [Probably the Supreme Court's last free speech decision before the CDA came down today in Glickman v. Wileman Brothers. I'm still reading through the opinion, but as I understand the case, U.S. Agriculture Department regulations required nectarine and peach growers in California to contribute to generic pro-nectarine/peach advertising. The Ninth Circuit struck down the regs, saying the "First Amendment right of freedom of speech includes a right not to be compelled to render financial support for others' speech." But today the Supreme Court reversed, ruling that "Respondents are not required themselves to speak but are merely required to make contributions for advertising." Souter, Rhenquist, Scalia, and Thomas dissented. This is hardly a decision that bodes well for the First Amendment. --Declan] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 25 Jun 97 19:15:00 DST From: "Halpert, James - DC" <jhalpert(a)pipermar.com> Declan, One never knows until the opinions are issued, but there is a good deal of objective evidence contradicting Prof. Volokh's hunch. At oral argument, Rhenquist, Scalia and Thomas all asked hostile questions of Bruce Ennis, and Rhenquist and Scalia stepped in to help out Seth Waxman, the Government's oralist, when he was having trouble answering tough questions. I'm not sure that Rhenquist and Thomas have ever voted to strike down an indecency restriction. Although Scalia has been taken somewhat more libertarian stands on speech restrictions than the other two, he said flat out at oral argument that he thought the government should win. As for the dissenting opinion they all joined Denver Consortium decision last term, it may have drawn a clearer line than did the plurality opinion, but would have upheld a requirement that cable subscribers OPT-IN IN WRITING thirty days in advance of being able to receive indecent programming. If you like that, you may well like the CDA .. . . We'll see soon enough.

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future history of remailers
by landon_dyer＠wayfarer.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

i just picked up greg bear's new SF novel _Slant_. it's set in mid- next-century. i'm only twenty pages into it, so i can't honestly give it a recommendation yet, but the following is from one of the "chapter intro" quotes, and it has some cypherpunk-topical stuff in the author's 'techie gobbledygook' in the 2nd paragraph [note: possibly offensive ... but if you're on this list, why am i bothering to warn you? :-) ] >From: Anonymous Remailer >To: Pope Alexander VII >Date: December 24 2043 > >"You're just a Catholic Dickhead, you know that? Come to my town >(wouldnt you like to know you shit) sometime and I'll show you a >GOOD TIME. Let you bodiguards know that I'm about seven feet tall and >dressed like the Demons in NUKEY NOOKY which I bet you've plaid too >you asswipe hippocrit!!!!! Have a nice day!!!!!" > >EMAIL Archive (ref Security Inv, Re: Thread = Encyclical 2043 Vatican >Library> Cultural Tracking STAFF /INDA 332; reverse track through >Finland> ANONYM REMAIL Code REROUTE> SWITZERLAND/ZIMBABWE> ACCT HDFinster> >Harrison D. Finster ADDRESS 245 W. Blessoe Street Apt 3-H Greensboro NC >USA PROFILE> 27 years of age at time of message, >CONCLUSION: FLAME >PROFILE No action necessary. ref Vatican Internal Investigator >comments: "Young, shit for brains.") imagine that, the vatican cracking remailers.... "Democracy is government by the people and for the people, on the theory that the people should get the kind of government they deserve, good and hard." -- Robert Frezza, _The VMR Theory_

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Re: LOSE MONEY FAST!!
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Gosh, this sounds a lot like Detweiler: lots of EXCLAMATIONS and vague, circulating references to unrecognizeable entities, full of recriminating psychological accusations intended to elicit a sense of underlying guilt for some kind of immoral attitude. Think he'd make a good lawyer. .. Blanc

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Re: The Grand Compromise is Coming
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:01 AM 6/25/97 -0700, Tim May wrote: >We need to get beyond the sentimentality of concentrating on the >"innocents" and instead coldly analyze what needs to be done, and then do >it. ................................................................ After having done what needs to be done, would you then be open to letting any of the remaining, surviving innocents be apprised of who it was almost done them in? .. Blanc

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Re: The Grand Compromise is Coming
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:01 AM 6/25/97 -0700, Tim May wrote: >We need to get beyond the sentimentality of concentrating on the >"innocents" and instead coldly analyze what needs to be done, and then do >it. ................................................................ After having done what needs to be done, would you then be open to letting any of the remaining, surviving innocents be apprised of who it was almost done them in? .. Blanc

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