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December 2003
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Dear friend,
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The enclosed information is something I almost let
slip through my fingers. Fortunately, sometime
later I re-read everything and gave some thought
and study to it. My name is Christopher Erickson.
Two years ago, the corporation I worked at for the
past twelve years down-sized and my position was
eliminated. After unproductive job interviews, I
decided to open my own business. Over the past
year, I incurred many unforeseen financial
problems. I owed my family, friends, and creditors
over $35,000. The economy was taking a toll on my
business and I just couldn't seem to make ends
meet. I had to refinance and borrow against my
home to support my family and struggling business.
I truly believe it was wrong for me to be in debt
like this. AT THAT MOMENT something significant
happened in my life and I am writing to share my
experience in hopes that this will change your
life FOREVER....FINANCIALLY!!!
In mid-December, I received this program via email. Six months prior
to receiving this program I had been sending away
for information on various business opportunities.
All of the programs I received, in my opinion,
were not cost effective. They were either too
difficult for me to comprehend or the initial
investment was too much for me to risk to see if
they worked or not. One claimed I'd make a million
dollars in one year...it didn't tell me I'd have
to write a book to make it. But like I was saying,
in December of '95 I received this program. I
didn't send for it, or ask for it, they just got
my name off a mailing list. THANK GOODNESS FOR
THAT!!! After reading it several times, to make
sure I was reading it correctly, I couldn't
believe my eyes. Here was a MONEY-MAKING
PHENOMENON. I could invest as much as I wanted to
start, without putting me further in debt. After I
got a pencil and paper and figured it out, I would
at least get my money back. After determining that
the program is LEGAL and NOT A CHAIN LETTER, I
decided "WHY NOT". Initially I sent out 10,000
emails. It only cost me about $15.00 for my time
on-line. The great thing about email is that I
didn't need any money for printing to send out the
program, only the cost to fulfill my orders. I am
telling you like it is, I hope it doesn't turn you
off, but I promised myself that I would not
"rip-off" anyone, no matter how much money it cost
me! A good program to help do this is Ready Aim
Fire, an email extracting and mass mail program @
http://microsyssolutions.com/raf/
In less than one week, I was starting to receive orders for REPORT
#1. By January 13th, I had received 26 orders for
REPORT #1. When you read the GUARANTEE in the
program, you will see that "YOU MUST RECEIVE 15 TO
20 ORDERS FOR REPORT #1 WITHIN TWO WEEKS. IF YOU
DON'T, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO!" My
first step in making $50,000 in 20 to 90 days was
done. By January 30th, I had received 196 orders
for REPORT #2. If you go back to the GUARANTEE,
"YOU MUST RECEIVE 100 OR MORE ORDERS FOR REPORT #2
WITHIN TWO WEEKS. IF NOT, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS
UNTIL YOU DO. ONCE YOU HAVE 100 ORDERS, THE REST
IS EASY, RELAX, YOU WILL MAKE YOUR $50,000 GOAL."
Well, I had 196 orders for REPORT #2, 96 more than
I needed. So I sat back and relaxed. By March
19th, of my emailing of 10,000, I received $58,000
with more coming in every day. I paid off ALL my
debts and bought a much needed new car. Please
take time to read the attached program, IT WILL
CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER! Remember, it wont work
if you don't try it. This program does work, but
you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the rules
of not trying to place your name in a different
place. It doesn't work, you'll lose out on a lot
of money! REPORT #2 explains this. Always follow
the guarantee, 15 to 20 orders for REPORT #1, and
100 or more orders for REPORT #2 and you will make
$50,000 or more in 20 to 90 days. I AM LIVING
PROOF THAT IT WORKS !!! If you choose not to
participate in this program, I'm sorry. It really
is a great opportunity with little cost or risk to
you. If you choose to participate, follow the
program and you will be on your way to financial
security. If you are a fellow business owner and
you are in financial trouble like I was, or you
want to start your own business, consider this a
sign. I DID!
Sincerely,
Christopher Erickson
PS Do you have any idea what 11,700 $5 bills ($58,000)
look like piled up on a kitchen table?
IT'S AWESOME! THREW IT AWAY" "I had received this
program before. I threw it away, but later
wondered if I shouldn't have given it a try. Of
course, I had no idea who to contact to get a
copy, so I had to wait until I was emailed another
copy of the program. Eleven months passed, then it
came. I DIDN'T throw this one away. I made $41,000
on the first try." Dawn W., Evansville, IN
"NO FREE LUNCH" "My late father always told me,
'remember, Alan, there is no free lunch in life.
You get out of life what you put into it.' Through
trial and error and a somewhat slow frustrating
start, I finally figured it out. The program works
very well, I just had to find the right target
group of people to email it to. So far this year,
I have made over $63,000 using this program. I
know my dad would have been very proud of me."
Alan B., Philadelphia, PA
A PERSONAL NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM
By the time you have
read the enclosed information and looked over the
enclosed program and reports, you should have
concluded that such a program, and one that is
legal, could not have been created by an amateur.
Let me tell you a little about myself. I had a
profitable business for ten years. Then in 1979 my
business began falling off. I was doing the same
things that were previously successful for me, but
it wasn't working. Finally, I figured it out. It
wasn't me, it was the economy. Inflation and
recession had replaced the stable economy that had
been with us since 1945. I don't have to tell you
what happened to the unemployment rate...because
many of you know from first hand experience. There
were more failures and bankruptcies than ever
before. The middle class was vanishing. Those who
knew what they were doing invested wisely and
moved up. Those who did not, including those who
never had anything to save or invest, were moving
down into the ranks of the poor. As the saying
goes, "THE RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR GET
POORER." The traditional methods of making money
will never allow you to "move up" or "get rich",
inflation will see to that. You have just received
information that can give you financial freedom
for the rest of your life, with "NO RISK" and
"JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT." You can make more
money in the next few months than you have ever
imagined. I should also point out that I will not
see a penny of your money, nor anyone else who has
provided a testimonial for this program. I have
already made over FOUR MILLION DOLLARS! I have
retired from the program after sending out over
16,000 programs. Now I have several offices which
market this and several other programs here in the
US and overseas. By the Spring, we wish to market
the 'Internet' by a partnership with AMERICA ON
LINE. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do
not change it in any way. It works exceedingly
well as it is now. Remember to email a copy of
this exciting program to everyone that you can
think of. One of the people you send this to may
send out 50,000...and your name will be on every
one of them!. Remember though, the more you send
out, the more potential customers you will reach.
So my friend, I have given you the ideas,
information, materials and opportunity to become
financially independent, IT IS UP TO YOU NOW!
"THINK ABOUT IT" Before you delete this program
from your mailbox, as I almost did, take a little
time to read it and REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. Get a
pencil and figure out what could happen when YOU
participate. Figure out the worst possible
response and no matter how you calculate it, you
will still make a lot of money! Definitely get
back what you invested. Any doubts you have will
vanish when your first orders come in. IT WORKS!
Paul Johnson, Raleigh, NC HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING
PROGRAM WILL MAKE YOU $$$$$$ Let's say that you
decide to start small, just to see how it goes,
and we'll assume you and all those involved send
out 2,000 programs each. Let's also assume that
the mailing receives a .5% response. Using a good
list the response could be much better. Also many
people will send out hundreds of thousands of
programs instead of 2,000. But continuing with
this example, you send out only 2,000 programs.
With a 5% response, that is only 10 orders for
REPORT #1. Those 10 people respond by sending out
2,000 programs each for a total of 20,000. Out of
those .5%, 100 people respond and order REPORT #2.
Those 100 mail out 2,000 programs each for a total
of 200,000. The .5% response to that is 1,000
orders for REPORT #3. Those 1,000 send out 2,000
programs each for a 2,000,000 total. The .5%
response to that is 10,000 orders for REPORT #4.
That's 10,000 five dollar bills for you. CASH!!!!
Your total income in this example is $50 + $500 +
$5000 + $50,000 for a total of $55,550!!!!
REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,990 OUT OF
2,000 PEOPLE YOU MAIL TO WILL DO ABSOLUTELY
NOTHING... AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM! DARE TO THINK
FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE OR HALF
SENT OUT 100,000 PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF ONLY 2,000.
Believe me, many people will do that and more! By
the way, your cost to participate in this is
practically nothing. You obviously already have an
internet connection and email is FREE!!! REPORT#3
will show you the best methods for bulk emailing
and purchasing email lists. THIS IS A LEGITIMATE,
LEGAL, MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNITY. It does not
require you to come in contact with people, do any
hard work, and best of all, you never have to
leave the house except to get the mail. If you
believe that someday you'll get that big break
that you've been waiting for, THIS IS IT! Simply
follow the instructions, and your dream will come
true. This multi-level email order marketing
program works perfectly...100% EVERY TIME. Email
is the sales tool of the future. Take advantage of
this non-commercialized method of advertising
NOW!! The longer you wait, the more people will be
doing business using email. Get your piece of this
action!! MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING (MLM) has finally
gained respectability. It is being taught in the
Harvard Business School, and both Stanford
Research and The Wall Street Journal have stated
that between 50% and 65% of all goods and services
will be sold throughout Multi-level Methods by the
mid to late 1990's. This is a Multi-Billion Dollar
industry and of the 500,000 millionaires in the
US, 20% (100,000) made their fortune in the last
several years in MLM. Moreover, statistics show 45
people become millionaires everyday through
Multi-Level Marketing. INSTRUCTIONS We at Erris
Mail Order Marketing Business, have a method of
raising capital that REALLY WORKS 100% EVERY TIME.
I am sure that you could use $50,000 to $125,000
in the next 20 to 90 days. Before you say "Bull",
please read the program carefully. This is not a
chain letter, but a perfectly legal money making
opportunity. Basically, this is what we do: As
with all multi-level business, we build our
business by recruiting new partners and selling
our products. Every state in the USA allows you to
recruit new multi-level business partners, and we
offer a product for EVERY dollar sent. YOUR ORDERS
COME AND ARE FILLED THROUGH THE MAIL, so you are
not involved in personal selling. You do it
privately in your own home, store or office. This
is the GREATEST Multi-level Mail Order Marketing
anywhere: Step (1) Order all four 4 REPORTS listed
by NAME AND NUMBER. Do this by ordering the REPORT
from each of the four 4 names listed on the next
page. For each REPORT, send $5 CASH and a SELF-
ADDRESSED, STAMPED envelope (BUSINESS SIZE #10) to
the person listed for the SPECIFIC REPORT.
International orders should also include $1 extra
for postage. It is essential that you specify the
NAME and NUMBER of the report requested to the
person you are ordering from. You will need ALL
FOUR 4 REPORTS because you will be REPRINTING and
RESELLING them. DO NOT alter the names or sequence
other than what the instructions say. IMPORTANT:
Always provide same-day service on all orders.
Step (2) Replace the name and address under REPORT
#1 with yours, moving the one that was there down
to REPORT #2. Drop the name and address under
REPORT #2 to REPORT #3, moving the one that was
there to REPORT #4. The name and address that was
under REPORT #4 is dropped from the list and this
party is no doubt on the way to the bank. When
doing this, make certain you type the names and
addresses ACCURATELY! DO NOT MIX UP MOVING
PRODUCT/REPORT POSITIONS!!! Step (3) Having made
the required changes in the NAME list, save it as
a text (.txt) file in it's own directory to be
used with whatever email program you like. Again,
REPORT #3 will tell you the best methods of bulk
emailing and acquiring email lists. Step (4) Email
a copy of the entire program (all of this is very
important) to everyone whose address you can get
your hands on. Start with friends and relatives
since you can encourage them to take advantage of
this fabulous money-making opportunity. That's
what I did. And they love me now, more than ever.
Then, email to anyone and everyone! Use your
imagination! You can get email addresses from
companies on the internet who specialize in email
mailing lists. These are very cheap, 100,000
addresses for around $35.00. IMPORTANT: You won't
get a good response if you use an old list, so
always request a FRESH, NEW list. You will find
out where to purchase these lists when you order
the four 4 REPORTS. ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY
SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS!!! REQUIRED REPORTS ***Order
each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME*** ALWAYS SEND A
SELF-ADDRESSED, STAMPED ENVELOPE AND $5 CASH FOR
EACH ORDER REQUESTING THE SPECIFIC REPORT BY NAME
AND NUMBER
__________________________________________________
REPORT #1
"HOW TO MAKE $250,000 THROUGH MULTI-LEVEL SALES"
ORDER REPORT #1 FROM:
T.R. Enterprises
800 S. Pacific Coast Highway, #8-425
Redondo Beach,
CA 90277
__________________________________________________
____
REPORT #2
"MAJOR CORPORATIONS AND MULTI-LEVEL SALES"
ORDER REPORT #2 FROM:
J.K.Enterprises
P. O. Box 10893
Blacksburg, VA
24060
__________________________________________________
______
REPORT#3
"SOURCES FOR THE BEST MAILING LISTS"
ORDER REPORT #3 FROM:
Hendon Enterprises
P.O. Box 188
Seguin, TX
__________________________________________________
_____ REPORT #4 "EVALUATING MULTI-LEVEL SALES
PLANS" ORDER REPORT #4 FROM:
78156Prosperity Group
PO Box 968
Englewood, FL
__________________________________________________
______ CONCLUSION I am enjoying my fortune that I
made by sending out this program. You too, will be
making money in 20 to 90 days, if you follow the
SIMPLE STEPS outlined in this mailing. To be
financially independent is to be FREE. Free to
make financial decisions as never before. Go into
business, get into investments, retire or take a
vacation. No longer will a lack of money hold you
back. However, very few people reach financial
independence, because when opportunity knocks,
they choose to ignore it. It is much easier to say
"NO" than "YES", and this is the question that you
must answer. Will YOU ignore this amazing
opportunity or will you take advantage of it? If
you do nothing, you have indeed missed something
and nothing will change. Please re-read this
material, this is a special opportunity. If you
have any questions, please feel free to write to
the sender of this information. You will get a
prompt and informative reply. My method is simple.
I sell thousands of people a product for $5 that
costs me pennies to produce and email. I should
also point out that this program is legal and
everyone who participates WILL make money. This is
not a chain letter or pyramid scam. At times you
have probably received chain letters, asking you
to send money, on faith, but getting NOTHING in
return, NO product what-so-ever! Not only are
chain letters illegal, but the risk of someone
breaking the chain makes them quite unattractive.
You are offering a legitimate product to your
people. After they purchase the product from you,
they reproduce more and resell them. It's simple
free enterprise. As you learned from the enclosed
material, the PRODUCT is a series of four 4
FINANCIAL AND BUSINESS REPORTS. The information
contained in these REPORTS will not only help you
in making your participation in this program more
rewarding, but will be useful to you in any other
business decisions you make in the years ahead.
You are also buying the rights to reprint all of
the REPORTS, which will be ordered from you by
those to whom you mail this program. The concise
one and two page REPORTS you will be buying can
easily be reproduced at a local copy center for a
cost off about 3 cents a copy. Best wishes with
the program and Good Luck! "IT WAS TRULY AMAZING"
"Not being the gambling type, it took me several
weeks to make up my mind to participate in this
program. But conservative as I am, I decided that
the initial investment was so little that there
was no way that I could not get enough orders to
at least get my money back. BOY, was I ever
surprised when I found my medium sized post office
box crammed with orders! I will make more money
this year than any ten years of my life before."
Mary Riceland, Lansing, MI TIPS FOR SUCCESS Send
for your four 4 REPORTS immediately so you will
have them when the orders start coming in. When
you receive a $5 order, you MUST send out the
product/service to comply with US Postal and
Lottery laws. Title 18 Sections 1302 and 1341
specifically state that: "A PRODUCT OR SERVICE
MUST BE EXCHANGED FOR MONEY RECEIVED." WHILE YOU
WAIT FOR THE REPORTS TO ARRIVE: 1. Name your new
company. You can use your own name if you desire.
2. Get a post office box (preferred). 3. Edit the
names and addresses on the program. You must
remember, your name and address go next to REPORT
#1 and the others all move down one, with the
fourth one being bumped OFF the list. 4. Obtain
as many email addresses as possible to send until
you receive the information on mailing list
companies in REPORT #3. 5. Decide on the number of
programs you intend to send out. The more you
send, and the quicker you send them, the more
money you will make. 6. After mailing the
programs, get ready to fill the orders. 7. Copy
the four 4 REPORTS so you are able to sent them
out as soon as you receive an order. IMPORTANT:
ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ORDERS YOU
RECEIVE! 8. Make certain the letter and reports
are neat and legible. YOUR GUARANTEE The check
point which GUARANTEES your success is simply
this: you must receive 15 to 20 orders for REPORT
#1. This is a must!!! If you don't within two
weeks, email out more programs until you do. Then
a couple of weeks later you should receive at
least 100 orders for REPORT #2, if you don't, send
out more programs until you do. Once you have
received 100 or more orders for REPORT #2, (take a
deep breath) you can sit back and relax, because
YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE AT LEAST $50,000.
Mathematically it is a proven guarantee. Of those
who have participated in the program and reached
the above GUARANTEES-ALL have reached their
$50,000 goal. Also, remember, every time your name
is moved down the list you are in front of a
different REPORT, so you can keep track of your
program by knowing what people are ordering from
you. IT'S THAT EASY, REALLY, IT IS!!! REMEMBER:
"HE WHO DARES NOTHING, NEED NOT HOPE FOR
ANYTHING." "INVEST A LITTLE TIME, ENERGY AND MONEY
NOW OR SEARCH FOR IT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE."
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Hello Washington watchers -
Hey, what are the **details** ?
Are these the same amendments from before, or new ones?
Congressional Record: June 26, 1997 (House)]
[Page H4834]
>From the Congressional Record Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
[DOCID:cr26jn97-74]
REPORTED BILL SEQUENTIALLY REFERRED
Under clause 5 of rule X, the following action was taken by the
Speaker:
H.R. 695. A bill to amend title 18, United States Code, to
affirm the rights of U.S. persons to use and sell encryption
and to relax export controls on encryption; with an
amendment; referred to the Committees on Commerce, National
Security, and the Permanent Select Committee on intelligence
for a period ending not later than September 5, 1997, for
consideration of such provisions of the bill and amendment
reported by the Committee on the Judiciary as fall within the
jurisdiction of those committees pursuant to clause 1(e) and
(k), rule X and rule XLVIII, respectively.
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At 08:46 PM 6/30/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>We hear a lot of steamy rhetoric about privacy and the information age, but
>few real-world examples. I'm working on a story now for Time about just
>this: what's happening to individual privacy today.
I assmue you will protect the anonymity of any contributors even while
sharing your generous payment with them! ;)
>
>Does the Net make us more exposed -- DejaNews and 411-type databases -- or
>does it provide us with more privacy through tools like anonymous remailers
>and pseudonymous identities?
As a reader of cpunks the following should be obvious: the access to
information from 411-etc. is simple and accessible to anyone who can type in
a browser! On the other hand, remailers and nym servers are still solely the
purview of propeller-heads. The remailer pages I have seen and tried to use
are unreliable - and to use PGP remailers requires a level of PGP-ability
that the average Joe won't invest in.
Most people have Work to do, and cannot invest in the time to figure out how
to use software. If we want to see pervasive use of privacy-preserving
technologies then developers must realize this and develop for the Mass
Market. PGP 5, PGPMail are certainly helpful and not enough. What I am
concerned about is that in the absence of easy-to-use (that means
no-effort-to-use) privacy software, the average Joe will rely on whatever is
there for him: and in the limit this will mean whatever infrastructure the
Powers-that-be want put in place for him, and not one that preserves his
rights. (Forgive the gender bias: I'll switch now)
There is no level of privacy afforded the average 'user' as simple to use as
the intrusve technologies that are available to the snoop.
>Can we trust the government to protect our
>privacy when it works tirelessly to invade it?
>
Sometimes it is better to trust Government than it is to trust Big Business,
although too often they converge onto identical tracks becuase of the
ownership of Gov't *by* Big Business. I see two equally onerous invasions:
One is the insistence of Government that the benefit of crypto to the Four
Horsewomen of the Infocalypse (Porn, Drug Dealing, Money Laundering, and
Terrorism), and the corresponding threat to society, is so large as to
warrant registering everyone's secret-telling capability. The other is the
intrusion by Business and Employers into the habits of consumers and workers.
From click-tracking on the Web to the recently reported monitoring of every
7-11 manager's move at the POS terminal, Business is no friend of the People.
That this is perhaps the more insidious threat is manifest by your not even
mentioning it or including it in the question set. I fear Businesses who say
"Government leave us alone because the Free Market knows what's best" and
then proceed to invade and intrude in ways that are equally damaging to the
privacy of the individual. The philosophy that if Business invades privacy
it's OK, and if Government does so it's bad, is to say that 2+2=5.
>Much has been written about this. What I'm looking for now are examples.
>Have you used an anonymous remailer to cloak your identity, or been flamed
>through one? Have you been denied a transaction at a store because you
>refused to identify yourself? Have you hunted through databases to find
>someone important? Has sensitive information about you turned up in one?
>
I have been fairly careful and very jealous of my privacy; and then my name
and home address showed up on one of the name-search pages. I don't know if
it's still there, and I don't remember the link. But then the Similac
marketing Geniuses sent me something in the mail that even included the due
date of my expected child! I consider that sensitive as hell, and it didn't
occur via the Web. The problem is across the board.
I use anonymizing tools when I need to, to protect what I consider "things"
that are too sensitive for the Web. I have looked up past friends on the
Web, and then not called because I felt it would be an intrusion into their
life. I have found the ability to search for information on PUBLIC figures
important and useful, looking for items related to their professional
activities, and I think this is an important capability. The opportunity for
People to make sure that the elected officials they elect and pay for, and
the businesses that pave their towns and dump toxics into their yards, are
behaving responsibly, is one of the few remaining possibilities for positive
change.
In the meantime, I'm wondering, as I wander off to renew my driver's license,
why they want my social security number.
And I still don't know how Similac figured out when my wife and I had sex.
(C) Copyright 1997 by ..... oops! I don't want to include my name.
>I'd appreciate hearing some stories...
>
>Thanks all,
>
>Declan
>
>
>-------------------------
>Declan McCullagh
>Time Inc.
>The Netly News Network
>Washington Correspondent
>http://netlynews.com/
>
>
>
>
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At 08:46 PM 6/30/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>We hear a lot of steamy rhetoric about privacy and the information age, but
>few real-world examples. I'm working on a story now for Time about just
>this: what's happening to individual privacy today.
I assmue you will protect the anonymity of any contributors even while
sharing your generous payment with them! ;)
>
>Does the Net make us more exposed -- DejaNews and 411-type databases -- or
>does it provide us with more privacy through tools like anonymous remailers
>and pseudonymous identities?
As a reader of cpunks the following should be obvious: the access to
information from 411-etc. is simple and accessible to anyone who can type in
a browser! On the other hand, remailers and nym servers are still solely the
purview of propeller-heads. The remailer pages I have seen and tried to use
are unreliable - and to use PGP remailers requires a level of PGP-ability
that the average Joe won't invest in.
Most people have Work to do, and cannot invest in the time to figure out how
to use software. If we want to see pervasive use of privacy-preserving
technologies then developers must realize this and develop for the Mass
Market. PGP 5, PGPMail are certainly helpful and not enough. What I am
concerned about is that in the absence of easy-to-use (that means
no-effort-to-use) privacy software, the average Joe will rely on whatever is
there for him: and in the limit this will mean whatever infrastructure the
Powers-that-be want put in place for him, and not one that preserves his
rights. (Forgive the gender bias: I'll switch now)
There is no level of privacy afforded the average 'user' as simple to use as
the intrusve technologies that are available to the snoop.
>Can we trust the government to protect our
>privacy when it works tirelessly to invade it?
>
Sometimes it is better to trust Government than it is to trust Big Business,
although too often they converge onto identical tracks becuase of the
ownership of Gov't *by* Big Business. I see two equally onerous invasions:
One is the insistence of Government that the benefit of crypto to the Four
Horsewomen of the Infocalypse (Porn, Drug Dealing, Money Laundering, and
Terrorism), and the corresponding threat to society, is so large as to
warrant registering everyone's secret-telling capability. The other is the
intrusion by Business and Employers into the habits of consumers and workers.
From click-tracking on the Web to the recently reported monitoring of every
7-11 manager's move at the POS terminal, Business is no friend of the People.
That this is perhaps the more insidious threat is manifest by your not even
mentioning it or including it in the question set. I fear Businesses who say
"Government leave us alone because the Free Market knows what's best" and
then proceed to invade and intrude in ways that are equally damaging to the
privacy of the individual. The philosophy that if Business invades privacy
it's OK, and if Government does so it's bad, is to say that 2+2=5.
>Much has been written about this. What I'm looking for now are examples.
>Have you used an anonymous remailer to cloak your identity, or been flamed
>through one? Have you been denied a transaction at a store because you
>refused to identify yourself? Have you hunted through databases to find
>someone important? Has sensitive information about you turned up in one?
>
I have been fairly careful and very jealous of my privacy; and then my name
and home address showed up on one of the name-search pages. I don't know if
it's still there, and I don't remember the link. But then the Similac
marketing Geniuses sent me something in the mail that even included the due
date of my expected child! I consider that sensitive as hell, and it didn't
occur via the Web. The problem is across the board.
I use anonymizing tools when I need to, to protect what I consider "things"
that are too sensitive for the Web. I have looked up past friends on the
Web, and then not called because I felt it would be an intrusion into their
life. I have found the ability to search for information on PUBLIC figures
important and useful, looking for items related to their professional
activities, and I think this is an important capability. The opportunity for
People to make sure that the elected officials they elect and pay for, and
the businesses that pave their towns and dump toxics into their yards, are
behaving responsibly, is one of the few remaining possibilities for positive
change.
In the meantime, I'm wondering, as I wander off to renew my driver's license,
why they want my social security number.
And I still don't know how Similac figured out when my wife and I had sex.
(C) Copyright 1997 by ..... oops! I don't want to include my name.
>I'd appreciate hearing some stories...
>
>Thanks all,
>
>Declan
>
>
>-------------------------
>Declan McCullagh
>Time Inc.
>The Netly News Network
>Washington Correspondent
>http://netlynews.com/
>
>
>
>
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Tim May wrote:
> We are trading away our liberty for bullshit assurances of safety,
> security, and protection from the Big Bad Wolf. (*)
>
> (* And of course the restrictions on publications of various items are
> really designed to protect Those in Power; thus has it always been, thus
> shall it always be.)
Rapist: "I'm using a condom for _your_ protection."
Victim: "Is that why you stole _my_ money to buy it?"
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Lynne L. Harrison wrote:
> This reminded me to ask if anyone knows if, per their statement, Netscape
> intends to u/l a patch for the 3.x versions. When I checked yesterday, I
> didn't see any reference to it.
Why would you expect Netscape to make reference to the fact that
use of their browser leaves you open to violation of your privacy
and security? Corporations are not expected to show concern about
keeping their customers well-informed in regard to problems that
arise with their product--they are expected to pretend, as much
as possible, that problems don't exist (even if it may result in
disastrous consequences for the customers who foolishly trust
the company to act with integrity and professionalism).
Netscape software is my browser of choice. I like the product,
I like the company, and I like what I know of the people involved
in the company.
Despite these facts, however, I recognize that reality is merely
a shallow reflection of classic Hollywood movies, and "Invasion
of the Body Snatchers" is currently playing at the Netscape cinema
complex.
You may have already seen this movie, at your own corporate
cinema, so you know how the plot goes... You wake up one morning
and realize that behind the glazed eyes of your formerly human
co-workers, lurks the alien energy of a communal corporate soul.
The company spokesperson (who has two cute kids and a dog that
are always a hit at the company picnic) has turned into an alien
life-form which is telling the press and public that the chemical
spill near the high-school has nothing to do with the hands that
are now growing out of the students' foreheads.
The company president (who risked his job to support a decent
employee health-plan against the investor's wishes) begins to
speak about a "ten year study" to determine why 20% of the
company employees develop a rare form of cancer every year.
Your best friend at the company changes the subject when you
mention the growing number of the company's customers who seem
to have an extra ear growing on their forearm. You can tell
that your best friend is looking into your eyes and trying to
discern if you are one of "them."
A twenty-dollar street hooker will sometimes have time to join
you for coffee and a burger at the conclusion of a business
transaction, but a high-priced call-girl invariably recognizes
the danger of true personal contact adversely affecting future
cash flow.
For the same reason, the corporate legal team would rather
discuss the responsibility for your failing health in a sterile
boardroom, than during dinner at your house with the whole
family present.
It is probably in Netscape's best short-term financial interest
to downplay the full implications of the "bug" in their software,
as well as avoiding revealing the true reasons for this "bug"
existing in the first place. However, I would much rather visit
their website and see a big, red "Warning!!!" sign flashing at
the top, with a pointer to full information about the nature
and effect of the "bug," as well as disclosure of facts that
would allow me to judge what level of trust I should use in the
future in regard to the company and their products.
After all, in terms of security, we can consider ourself to
be "sleeping" with those whose software we use. If it appears
that they are avoiding being fully honest about whether or not
they are practicing "safe software" in the best interests of
both themself and their "Johns," then perhaps we should think
about changing our "sleeping" habits.
The bottom line is that it does not reflect well on Netscape
to have their customers and/or software users checking with the
members of mailing lists (and the checkout clerk at the local
QuickMart) to find out if there is any chance that they may be
able to use Netscape's product safely in the future.
I did a quick review of the Netscape documentation and found
it gives no indication that users should inquire at the local
QuickMart for information about problems and bug fixes for
their products.
TruthMonger
~.~.~.~.~.~
DISCLAIMER: I am not your hooker; you are not my John.
Accordingly, the above is *NOT* illegal advice.
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> Under clause 0 of rule XYZ, the following action was taken by the
> Speaker:
>
> H.R. 666. A bill to amend title 0, United States Code, to
> affirm the rights of U.S. persons to breathe the air around
> them and to relax export controls on wind; with an
> amendment; referred to the Committees on Commerce, National
> Security, and the Permanent Select Committee on intelligence
> for a period ending not later than September 5, 1997, for
> consideration of such provisions of the bill and amendment
> reported by the Committee on the Judiciary as fall within the
> jurisdiction of those committees pursuant to clause 0(e) and
> (k), rule XYZ and rule XLVIIIX, respectively.
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Everything you will ever need is here,
If you are looking to start a business,need to find a long lost love or
relative,or just like to play games,this is the place,
you will even find "hard to get information" on offshore banking,finding
people,very economical web page creation,and hosting
even bulk email advertising.
This place has it all.
Thanks for your time.
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> Has there been any concideration for the difference between a digital
> signature that is used only for authentication and one that is legally
> binding??
What's the difference? When I sign a contract, I'm simply giving notice
that I accept its terms and conditions.
What I write in snail mail, however, may also be used in a court of law
to show that I actually thought or wrote whatever it was I wrote. Why
would e-mail be any different?
> I would hate for these Digital Signature Laws make every e-mail message I
> sent a legally binding document. :(
That's the rub about nailing down identity...there's no such thing as
plausible deniability anymore.
In a court of law, assuming you could prove to a judge and jury that
digi sigs establish identity beyond a reasonable doubt, I'd imagine
that anything signed, law or no law, would be legally binding insofar
as you actually wrote it.
I think I'm missing something...?
---------------------
"Deities do not fall ten floors to the basement" - Willis
pandemic(a)hotmail.com please contact for PGP public key.
http://www.skylink.net/~bigdaddy
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[I'm planning to show up Friday morning. Anyone else going? --Declan]
*******
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IN SHORT:--------------------------------------------------------------------
WHAT: Speakers and partying in Vegas for all hackers
WHEN: July 11th - 13th
WHERE: Las Vegas, Nevada @ the Aladdin Hotel and Casino
COSTS: $30 in advance, $40 at the door
MORE INFO: http://www.defcon.org or email info(a)defcon.org
IN LONG:---------------------------------------------------------------------
It's time to brave Las Vegas again for DEF CON! This is an initial
announcement and invitation to DEF CON V, a convention for the "underground"
elements of the computer culture. We try to target the (Fill in your
favorite word here): Hackers, Phreaks, Hammies, Virii Coders, Programmers,
Crackers, Cyberpunk Wannabees, Civil Liberties Groups, CypherPunks,
Futurists, Artists, Criminally Insane, Hearing Impaired. It seems that
books about the culture are becoming more popular, so of course reporters
are also welcome. You won't be hurt. I promise. Just bring cash for
drinks.
So you heard about DEF CON IV, and want to hit part V? You heard about the
parties, the info discussed, the bizarre atmosphere of Las Vegas and want to
check it out in person? You want to do weird shit _away_ from the hotel
where you can't get me in trouble? You have intimate knowledge of the SWIFT
network, and want to transfer millions of dollars to the Def Con account?
Then you're just the person to attend!
What DEF CON is known for is the open discussion of all ideas, the free
environment to make new contacts and the lack of ego. More people have made
great friends at DEF CON over the years than my brain can conceive of. DEF
CON is also known for letting the "Suits" (Government / Corporate) mix with
everyone and get an idea of what the scene is all about. The media makes an
appearance every year and we try to educate them as to what is really going
on. Basically it has turned into the place to be if you are at all
interested in the computer underground.
[Note]-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now last year over 800 people showed up and threw my whole program for a
loop. I was thinking 500+ people, but when 800 showed up it got a little
crazy for the planning staff. This year I am planning for 1,000. This
way I will be able to accommodate everyone and have less logistical screw-
ups.
I would also like to apologize to everyone last year who had temporary
badges for half the convention, etc. I will do all that is possible for
maximum coolness, and minimum hassles. Anyway, enough of my shit, on with
the details.
[End Note]-------------------------------------------------------------------
SPEAKERS:--------------------------------------------------------------------
Over the years DEF CON has had many notable speakers. This year there will
be more of an emphasis on technical talks. There will be a separate smaller
room for break-out sessions of more specific topics. While the talks of the
past have been great, it always seems some tech people drop out and general
talks fill in. I will load it tech heavy so when people do drop out there
will still be plenty of meat left for the propeller heads.
There will be some speaking on Friday evening before Hacker Jeopardy, all
day Saturday and Sunday. About 20 people will speak, plus smaller tech
sessions. If you are interested in speaking or demonstrating something
please contact me.
Current speakers include:
[> Nhil - Windows NT (in)security. The challenge response system, NT 5.0
Kerb security services, man in the middle attacks on domain controllers.
This will be a more technical discussion of NT related security.
[> Koresh - Hacking Novell Netware.
[> Yobie - Emerging infrastructures made possible by Java. He will describe
and talk about Java as the foundation for a global, object-oriented
distributed network. New concepts and computing paradigms will discussed
as well as applications for both applications development or straight-out
hacking.
[> Mudge - System Administrator for L0pht Heavy Industries. He will present
a technical talk on something cool.
[> Clovis - From the Hacker Jeopardy winning team. He will discuss issues
with security and networked object systems, looking at some of the
recent security issues found with activeX and detail some of the
potentials and problems with network objects. Topics will include
development of objects, distributed objects, standards, ActiveX, corba,
and hacking objects.
[> Bruce Schneier - Author of Applied Cryptography and the Blowfish
algorithm - Why cryptography is harder than it looks.
[> FBI Computer Crime Squad - They will make another appearance this year
only if I can bribe them with the audio from last years convention. Can
I do it in time?
[> Richard Thieme - "The Dynamics of Social Engineering: a cognitive map for
getting what you need to know, working in networks, and engaging in
espionage quietly; the uses of paranoia, imagination, and grandiosity
to build the Big Picture.
[> Wrangler - Packet Sniffing: He will define the idea, explain everything
from 802.2 frames down to the TCP datagram, and explain the mechanisms
(NIT, bpf) that different platforms provide to allow the hack.
Wrangler has been programming since seven column paper tape. He is a
loner with the social skills of a California Condor. He has never been
a member of LOD, MOD, or any other group. He has written no books, is
not currently employed, and refuses to discuss what he refers to as "that
credit card provider thing back when I used to do mainframe shit." His
current projects include looking for his next Fortune 100 contract and
writing the DEFCON V virus.
[> Seven - What the feds think of us.
[> Richard K. - Electronic countermeasures, counter espionage, risk
management. Should include a demonstration of electronic
countermeasures equipment as well as a talk on what works, what doesn't,
and the industry.
[> Tom Farley the Publisher of the "Private Line" journal, and Ken
Kumasawa of TeleDesign Management - Toll Fraud in the 90s: Two
perspectives. An overview of phreaking from a hackers point of view and
an industry/security consultants point.
[> Michael Quattrocchi - The future of digital cash and a presentation about
the modernization and state of register-level debit cards; in effect
currently throughout Canada.
[> The Deth Vegetable - "The Cult of the Dead Cow embarks on a new era of
Global Domination for the 21st Century three years early -- if you're
not at Defcon this year, you won't be down with the master plan.
Important announcements and startling new developments that will affect
the entire history of the Computer Underground as you know it."
[> Ira Winkler - Real life case studies of successful and unsuccessful
corporate espionage.
[> Sameer Parekh - c2.net - Why cryptography is harder than it looks, part
two. A look at implementation and production problems facing people and
companies wishing to develope and distribute strong encryption.
[> Carolyn P. Meinel - Moderator of the Happy Hacker Digest and mailing
lists. She will preside over a seperate Happy Hacker discussion
pannel that will cover the topics of wether or not "newbies" should have
information handed to them, or should they learn for themselves?
[> Dan Veeneman - Low Earth Orbit satellites are nearing the launch stage,
and this talk will cover the different systems that are planned and some
of the services they'll offer. A bit on GPS that wasn't covered last
year as well as the ever popular question and answer section.
[> Hobbit - CIFS is a load of CACA - Random SMB CIFS stuff in Microsfot
products.
[> Cyber - An overview and explanation of available crypto-tools. What
tools and programs do what, when to use them and on what platforms.
From someone who has spent lots of time playing around with the
currently available set of applications.
[> Keith - Has some experience writing firmware for embedded
microcontroller applications, and is giving a technical talk on
applications of microcontrollers in the h/p community.
[> James Jorasch - Hacking Vegas - How to games the gamers. From someone
who used to deal with hotel casino security. What really goes on?
SCHEDULE:--------------------------------------------------------------------
FRIDAY: Network Setup, Sign in, Informal PGP Keysigning at the "PGP table",
Lots of Partying. Capture the Flag Contest Starts at 16:00
On Friday there will be the demonstrations of the Radio Burst Cannon, a
"real" rail gun, and an omni-directional cell phone jammer. Times to be
announced.
10:00 - Doors open, sign in starts
10:00 - Movies start in main conference room
16:00 - Capture the Flag II starts
15:30 - Round up and head off for demonstrations of HERF, and
rail gun madness. Nothing may happen, then again..
23:30 - 23:00 James Jorasch - "Hacking Vegas" how to beat the system in
Vegas by someone who knows it inside and out.
23:00 - 03:00 Hacker Jeopardy Starts.
SATURDAY:
10:00 - 10:50 Richard Thieme - The Dynamics of Social Engineering.
11:00 - 11:50 Yobie - Emerging infrastructures made possible by Java.
12:00 - 12:50 Clovis - issues with security and networked object systems.
13:00 - 13:50 FBI Computer Crime Squad -
14:00 - 14:50 Deth Veggie - Global Domination, cDc style.
15:00 - 15:50 Seven - What the feds think of us.
16:00 - 16:50 Richard K. -
17:00 - 17:50 Tom Farley and Ken K. - Toll Fraud in the 90s: Two
perspectives.
Saturday Breakout Tech Sessions:
Koresh - Novell issues.
Mudge - Secure Coding.
Hobbit - Why CIFS is CACA.
Nihil - NT security issues.
Wrangler - Packet Sniffing.
Keith - firmware for embedded microcontroller applications.
24:00 (Midnight) Final rounds of Hacker Jeopardy.
SUNDAY:
10:00 - 10:50 Ira Winkler - Industrial Espionage.
11:00 - 11:50 Sameer - Why cryptography is harder than it looks, part two.
12:00 - 12:50 Cyber - An overview and explanation of available crypto-tools.
13:00 - 13:50 Carolyn Meinel - Happy Hacker Panel.
14:00 - 14:50 Michael Q. - The future of digital cash.
15:00 - 15:50 Dan Veeneman - Low Earth Orbit satellites.
Sunday Breakout Tech Sessions:
Happy Hacker track
Panel: "The Newbie Experiments"
Moderator is Carolyn Meinel, author of the Guides to (mostly) Harmless
Hacking series. Other panel members are:
- Matt Hinze, editor of the Happy Hacker Digest.
- Bronc Buster, who runs a Web forum, IRC server and the New Buckaroos Web
site for his fast-growing band of newbies.
- Mark Biernacki of Shellonly.com will talk about this new ISP which is
designed to make it easy for newbies to learn to hack. Just say "Telnet
port 22!"
- Jericho, who will hold forth on "Let the newbies fend for themselves."
We will allow each panel member to open with a brief presentation of his or
her work, followed by debate first among panel members, followed by Q&A from
the audience. We expect some intense debate:-)
Then if the Aladdin hotel hasn't yet been demolished yet by riots, we will
continue with a series of individual presentations:
- Jon McClintock, editor of Happy-SAD (Systems Administrator Digest) will
demonstrate how to install Linux.
- Bronc Buster will hold forth on the Windows 95 denial of service programs
his Web site offers.
- Carolyn Meinel will demonstrate how to read email headers, create, and
decipher forged email.
Breakout Tech Sessions:
16:00 Awards for Capture the Flag
End of it all, cleanup, etc. See you all next year!
EVENTS:----------------------------------------------------------------------
[> HACKER JEOPARDY:
Winn is back with Hacker Jeopardy!! The third year in the running!
Can the all-powerful Strat and his crypto-minion Erik, whose force
cannot be contained, be defeated?! Will the powers that be allow
Strat-Meister to dominate this beloved event for the third year in
a row?! Can Erik continue to pimp-slap the audience into submission
with a spoon in his mouth?!? Only Skill, Time, and booze will tell
the tail!
The Holy Cow will help supply the beer, you supply the answers.
The first round starts at 12 midnight o'clock on Friday and lasts
until it is done. The second and secret rounds will happen Saturday
at midnight.
6 teams will be picked at random and compete for the final round.
There can be only one! Strat's Team, the winners from last year
will defend if all the members can be found.
[> FREE BEER!
Holy Cow will provide free beer tickets! If you are over 21 prepare
to consume "hacker" beers. Actually it's whatever beer they have on
tap, but it's the best beer in Las Vegas. Follow Las Vegas Blvd. up
until you see the florescent cow with the big sunglasses. All taxi
drivers know of this Mecca. Over 1,000 free beers in all!
[> BLACK AND WHITE BALL:
We've talked it over, and the verdict is in. For the last two years
at DEF CON there has been a sort of unspoken Saturday night dress up
event. People have worn everything from party dresses and Tuxedoes
to AJ's ultra pimp Swank outfit with tiger print kilt. This year it
is official. Wear your cool shit Saturday night, be it gothic or PVC
vinyl or Yakuza looking black MIBs. No prizes, just your chance to
be the uber-bustah pimp.
[> THE TCP/IP DRINKING GAME:
If you don't know the rules, you'll figure 'em out.
[> CAPTURE THE FLAG:
ALL NEW, ALL IMPROVED, MORE CONFRONTATIONAL,
1997 ILLUMINATI INVITATIONAL,
CAPTURE THE FLAG, HACKER STYLE.
The goal is to take over everybody else's server while protecting your
own. To cut down on lag time and federal offences we're providing a
playing field of 5 flag-machine networks connected by a big router in
the middle.
The rules:
1) No taking the network down for more than 60 seconds.
2) No taking any flag machine (including your own) down for more than
3 minutes.
3) In order to be counted in the game, a team's flag machine must
- be directly connected to the network;
- have a text file flag on the machine readable by at least 2
accounts,
- keep at least 3 *normal* services running in a way that a
client could actually get their work done using them.
- run a web server if technically possible.
4) No goonery/summoning of elder gods/Mickey Finns/physical
coercion... you get the idea. ( You had the idea, but we're
trying to prevent you from using it. )
The field of play :
Each network will have a "server" of some kind on it, called the flag
machine. At the start of the game, these servers will be stock
installations a lot like what you'd see on the average academic/secret
cabal/military/megacorp network. Each of these machines will have a
PGP private key, named root.flag, and a web server.
There will also be a machine to provide DNS, called the scoreboard.
Teams:
Teams can be one human or more. In order to be a team, you have
to generate 20 256bit PGP key pairs, have a DEFCON goon pgp-sign
them and put the public keys on the scoreboard webserver. We'll
generate a hundred key pairs in advance, so the first five teams can
just grab a floppy disk (if they're trusting).
To prove that you've hacked a flag machine, PGP - sign a message with
the root.flag from the hacked machine, then with one of your own.
Post the doubly-signed message on the scorekeeper web server, and
you've captured that flag (and invalidated the captured root.flag).
When you've captured a flag, decide between conquest and
condescension: either take over the server yourself, or hand it back
to its not-so-eleet owners. To conquer, put one of your PGP private
keys on the captured server to become the next root.flag. (Of
course, you have to properly secure the server to maintain your new
territory.)
To condescend, just wait until the original owners see their shame
spread across the scoreboard. (It would sure be a pity if
they had to put up a new key before they figured out how you got in
last time, wouldn't it?)
Two Ways to Win:
#1 EVIL EMPIRE: Whoever has the most servers responding with their
teams' private keys at the end wins.
#2 PIRATE: Fabulous prizes will also be given to whoever racks up the
highest total number of flags captured.
Rough game mechanics (why is everyone so untrusting?):
Once every 5 minutes or more, the scoreboard machine will post a
plaintext challenge. Every team that claims to own a server has to
PGP-sign that challenge with the private key registered for that
server and post the signed version on their machine. If a server
can't respond within 3 minutes, then nobody owns it, and it's fair
game to be taken back over by the goons.
Specific rules will be available in print at DefCon before the game
begins.
This was a message from The People
[> QUAKE COMPETITION:
http://www.ctive.com/ntech/defcon.htm
This year knightPhlight contacted me and wanted to organize a single
elimination Quake competition to find out who that badest ass 'mo 'fo
is. Check out the web site to get the rules, sign up, or to
donate a computer the greater good of destruction.
It is IMHO that Quake by id Software rules 3D action gaming. But who
rules Quake? We'll find out this July 11th-13th at the DefCon
Conference in Las Vegas. This isn't going to be a networked game
intent on quickly eliminating as many players as possible in a single
round. Rather, one-on-one games will be played to absolutely
determine who the best really is.
Of course, you already know your the best so why would you feel
obligated to prove it? Because we'll give the first place winner
$750. Now, being the wily person you are, I bet you would like to
know where I got the money for the prizes. It'll come from your
registration fee of $7.50. Any half wit can do the math and see the
10,000% return for the winner. But just for entering you'll be in a
drawing for really kewl stuff. If you don't think its kewl you can
just give us your email address and we'll be happy to send you a
couple hundred thousand messages explaining why the prizes are great.
[> NET CONNECTION AND TOPOLOGY:
DefCon 5 Network Plan (v.99)
Telecommunications
------------------
Media Type: T1 ESF/B8ZS (not D4/AMI)
Service Provider: Las Vegas Digital Internet
Telco: Sprint
Equipment needed Equipment on-hand
---------------- ----------------------------------------------
CSU/DSU Verilink AS2000's with NCC 2301 cards (JC)
Router Cisco 2501 (Lock)
Net Admin server (Lock )
10bT Hubs 16-port from Lock - need more to populate the room
10bT Cable (miles) Everybody bring their own - will need some extra
to link hubs
Network Services:
-----------------
Web Server
CU-reflector
RealAudio Server
IRC server?
This year we are pre-building many of the network boxes so the net
can go up first thing Friday. It looks like we will have a T1 line
and we will break it out to 10 BaseT hubs. If you want in on the
network bring along the appropriate cables and adapters.
More Net Madness! The T1 bandwidth will allow us to do the
following cool stuff:
- Have several color quickcams and a CU-SeeMe reflector site set
up so people not at the con can check out what's going on. During
the convention check out the DEF CON web site to get the location
of the reflector site. You should get and install the software
needed to view CU-SeeMe streams in advance!
- Have a RealAudio server set up to stream the speakers talks to
those who can not attend.
- Potentially play a competitive multi user game(s) over the net.
NOTE! If you wish to participate interactively with the convention
please e-mail me and we can coordinate something. It would be
great to get people from all over the world involved.
[> 5th ANNUAL SPOT THE FED CONTEST:
The ever popular paranoia builder. Who IS that person next to you?
"Like a paranoid version of pin the tail on the donkey, the
favorite sport at this gathering of computer hackers and phone
phreaks seems to be hunting down real and imagined telephone
security and Federal and local law enforcement authorities who the
attendees are certain are tracking their every move.. .. Of course,
they may be right."
- John Markhoff, NYT
Basically the contest goes like this: If you see some shady MIB
(Men in Black) earphone penny loafer sunglass wearing Clint Eastwood
to live and die in LA type lurking about, point him out. Just get
my attention and claim out loud you think you have spotted a fed.
The people around at the time will then (I bet) start to discuss the
possibility of whether or not a real fed has been spotted. Once
enough people have decided that a fed has been spotted, and the
Identified Fed (I.F.) has had a say, and informal vote takes place,
and if enough people think it's a true fed, or fed wanna-be, or
other nefarious style character, you win a "I spotted the fed!"
shirt, and the I.F. gets an "I am the fed!" shirt.
NOTE TO THE FEDS: This is all in good fun, and if you survive
unmolested and undetected, but would still secretly like an "I am
the fed!" shirt to wear around the office or when booting in doors,
please contact me when no one is looking and I will take your
order(s). Just think of all the looks of awe you'll generate at
work wearing this shirt while you file away all the paperwork
you'll have to produce over this convention. I won't turn in any
feds who contact me, they have to be spotted by others.
DOUBLE SECRET NOTE TO FEDS: This year I am printing up extra "I
am the Fed!" shirts, and will be trading them for coffee mugs,
shirts or baseball hats from your favorite TLA. If you want to
swap bring along some goodies and we can trade. Be stealth about
it if you don't want people to spot you. Agents from foreign
governments are welcome to trade too, but I gotta work on my mug
collection and this is the fastest way.
[> RAIL GUN DEMONSTRATION: (Friday)
On Friday afternoon there will be a demonstration of a hand held
rail gun. This garage project should be able to fire a graphite
washer very, very fast.
[> OMNIDIRECTIONAL CELL PHONE JAMMER DEMONSTRAITON: (Friday)
Another interesting creation to be tested on Friday in the desert.
Come along and watch you cell phone antenna explode with power!
See control channels crumble before you.
[> RADIO BURST CANNON DEMONSTRATION: (Friday)
While not quite a HERF gun, this should come close. The RBC should
be able to produce up to or less than one MegaWatt for up to or less
than one second. What will this do? Who knows! Come and find out.
Obviously the above demonstrations will take place away from the
local hospitals and casinos out in the desert someplace, so be
prepared.
HOTELS:----------------------------------------------------------------------
[> Book your room NOW!!! We have a block of rooms, but it is first come,
[> first served. Rooms get released about one month before the convention.
[> Book by June 9th or risk it. The room rates are quite cool this year.
PRIMARY HOTEL: The Aladdin Hotel and Casino
3667 Las Vegas Blvd. South, Las Vegas, Nevada
Built in 1966 it is one of the oldest hotels in Las Vegas that
hasn't been blown up to make room for newer ones. It is quite nice
and has Tennis courts, two swimming pools, Chinese, Vietnamese and
Korean. A Seafood and steakhouse, Joe's Diner and a 24 hour coffee
shop too. It's located next to the MGM Theme park on the strip.
PHONE: 1-800-634-3424, reference the "DC Communications conference"
for reservations. 702-736-0222
RATES: Single & Double rooms are $65 in the Garden section, $85 for
the Tower. Suites are $250 to $350. All costs are plus 8% room tax.
Rollaway beds are available for an additional $15 a night.
STUFF IN VEGAS:--------------------------------------------------------------
URLs
Listings of other hotels in Las Vegas, their numbers, WWW pages, etc.
http://www.intermind.net/im/hotel.html
http://vegasdaily.com/HotelCasinos/HotelAndCasinos/CasinoList.html
VENDORS / SPONSORS / RESEARCH:-----------------------------------------------
If you are interested in selling something (shirts, books,
computers, whatever) and want to get a table contact me for costs.
If you have some pet research and you want to have the participants
fill out anonymous questioners please contact me for the best way
to do this.
If you want to sponsor any event or part of DEF CON V in return for
favorable mentions and media manipulation please contact me. For
example in the past Secure Computing has sponsored a firewall
hacking contest.
MORE INFO:-------------------------------------------------------------------
[> DEF CON Voice Bridge (801) 855-3326
This is a multi-line voice bbs, VMB and voice conference system.
There are 5 or so conference areas, with up to eight people on each
one. Anyone can create a free VMB, and there are different voice
bbs sections for separate topics. This is a good neutral meeting
place to hook up with others.
The Voice bridge will be changing numbers soon, but the old number
will refer you to the new location. The new spot won't suffer from
"Phantom" bridges!
[> MAILING LIST
send emial to majordomo(a)merde.dis.org and in the body of the message
include the following on a separate line each.
subscribe dc-stuff
dc-announce is used for convention updates and major announcements,
dc-stuff is related to general conversation, planning rides and
rooms, etc.
[> WWW Site http://www.defcon.org/
Convention updates and archives from previous conventions are housed
here. Past speakers, topics, and stuff for sale. Also a growing
section of links to other places of interest and current events.
[> The Third Annual California Car Caravan to DEF CON!
http://www.netninja.com/caravan
There are also some resources (links to other web sites and text
files) generally related to DefCon--not specifically the California
Caravan. These resources are available at:
http://www.netninja.com/caravan/resources.html
[> The DEF CON V Car ride sharing page: Use this site to arrange ride
sharing to the convention from all over North America. If you can
spare a seat for someone, or need to leech a ride go to the ride
sharing page set up by Squeaky.
http://garbage.bridge.net/~defcon/defcon.html
[> EMAIL dtangent(a)defcon.org
Send all email questions / comments to dtangent(a)defcon.org. It has
been said that my email is monitored by various people. If you want
to say something private, please do so with my pgp key (At the
bottom of this announcement) I usually respond to everything, if
not I'm swamped or had a system problem.
[> GIVE ME MONEY! SNAIL MAIL PRE-REGISTRATION
Send all written materials, pre-registrations, etc. to:
DEF CON, 2709 E. Madison, Seattle WA, 98112
If you are pre-registering for $30 please make payable to DEF CON
and include a name to which you want the registration to apply.
I don't respond to registrations unless you request.
DO YOU WANT TO HELP?---------------------------------------------------------
Here is what you can do if you want to help out or participate in
some way:
Donate stuff for the continuous giveaways and the various contests.
Got extra ancient stuff, or new cool stuff you don't use anymore?
Donate it to a good cause! One person was very happy over winning
an osborne "portable" computer.
ORGANIZE sharing a room or rides with other people in your area.
Join the mailing list and let people know you have floor space or
some extra seats in your car. Hey, what's the worst that can
happen besides a trashed hotel room or a car-jacking?
CREATE questions for hacker jeopardy (you know how the game is
played) and email them to winn(a)infowar.com. No one helped out last
year, so this year let's try. Everything from "Famous narks" to
"unix bugs" is fair game.
BRING a machine with a 10bt interface card, and get on the local
network, trade pgp signatures, etc.
FINAL CHECK LIST OF STUFF TO BRING:------------------------------------------
From: Enigma
Here is a list of items to bring to DefCon. These are only
suggestions. Your mileage may vary. :)
Items to bring to DefCon
~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~
Clothing
- Comfortable shirts and pants/shorts
- Socks, underwear, etc
- Bathing suit
- Toiletries (deodorant, toothbrush, comb, hair spray,..., giant
tub of hair grease, Oxy pads, etc)
- An extra towel (don't leave home without it. Anyway, doesn't
it always seem that you run out of clean towels in the
bathroom?)
- Something cool, hip, pimp-o-matic, or ninja-riffic to wear
Saturday night at the Black and White Ball
You can skip the deodorant and extra clothing if all you are going
to do is play "Magic: The Gathering" and "Quake." Everyone else
does.
Stuph
- Your shades. Vegas is hot. The sun is bright. 'Nuff said.
(If you wear eye glasses, I hear the clip-on, flip-up sunglasses
are quite the fashion statement)
- Sunscreen of at least SPF 100. After spending hundreds of hours
in front of the monitor, who needs the sun to ruin their ghostly
white tan?
- A hat--preferably with a cool logo or catchy phrase like "Gandalf
Routers," "Netscape," "Microsoft [with "sucks" scrawled below it
in permanent marker]", "I [heart] [insert government institution:
Cops, Feds, etc]"...you get the idea
- Note book, palmtop, or laptop to take notes on during the speeches
- [Micro]casette recorder to record the speeches (or everyone
getting drunk in your room Saturday night, not knowing what they
are saying, with no hope of remembering it...excellent blackmail
material!)
- Camcorder (see above...<>)
- Digital camera--for all of the above reasons PLUS you can
instantly upload the images through the T1 onto the net
- Fake ID for all of you under 18/21
- Fake ID for everyone else, if you're planning something illegal
- Your best jokes (Nooooo! Not the superman joke! Not the pink
joke)
- Your best hacking stories...these are all about something "your
friend" did, aren't they? You wouldn't admit to doing anything
illegal, now, would you?
- Someone else's--oops, I mean "your" credit card numbers
Fun
- Your drug(s) of choice -- From caffeine to pot to speed to acid
- Zippo and extra fuel. And while you're at it, put an extra flint
(assuming you can find one in the back of your junk drawer) in
the bottom. You always run out at just the wrong time.
- Extra smokez (Splurge: get some cigars or cloves for the weekend)
- Leather
- Handcuffs and chains, nipple clamps, etc.
- Saran wrap, duct tape, electrical tape, gaffer's tape
- Candles (the drippy kind)
- Incense
- Oils
- Your copy of "The Pocket Kama Sutra" (ISBN 0-7894-0437-0)
- That corn starch and water "slime" that Light Ray (I believe) and
others believed to be the ultimate thing, several DefCon's back.
Tech
- Laptop w/ Ethernet card
- Extra laptop battery
- A zip drive with a stack of disks containing all your soooper
k-rad haxing utilities and g-files
- 10bt/10b2 cabling
- A small hub
- You did remember to put a packet sniffer on your zip disk, right?
Just checking.
- Every power cord you could possibly need
- A serial cable with a plethora of adapters so you can get each
end to be male/female, 9pin/25pin, null-modem/straight
- Cable to connect the above mentioned digital camera to the laptop
- Scanner (modded, of course)
- Frequency counter (I hear the "Scout" is pretty good)
- HAM radio. Any band, any frequency. You didn't modify it to
transmit on arbitrary frequencies, did you? Naughty monkey!
- An assortment of tuned antennas
- That zip disk has the FCC frequency allocations on it, right?
- Your uber-elite organizer (the DOS based HP palmtops are quite
cool) to collect handles and email addresses from people
- High energy weapons ("Is that an unlicensed nuclear accelerator
on your back?" "No, it's just a HERF gun." "Oh.")
- Laser pointer (don't get kicked out of the hotel again, youz
doodz)
- Your "white courtesy phone" that you stole from the Monte Carlo
last year
- A microbroadcasting station with plenty of tuneage
- Your lock picks or lock picking gun
- A pocket-sized tool kit containing a modular screwdriver and
plenty of attachments (flathead, philips, torx, hex, etc)
- A pocket knife, pliers and wire cutters--or alternatively a
Leatherman's tool
- Hell, while you're at it: why not some bring bolt cutters, a
sledge hammer, and a hack saw?
- Telephone handset with alligator clips. Or, if you're uber-
31337, you have a lineman's butt set (with the serial number
and telco logo filed off)
- Bubble gum or epoxy putty--anything maleable and hardens.
This is good for fixing hoses under the hood of your car.
It's also useful to jam mechanical sensors (What would happen
if the microwave always though it's door was open? Or if the
elevator always thought there was someone blocking the path
of the door? Wouldn't hotel security be pissed if they
couldn't get into their security room because someone jammed
a toothpick into the keyhole with krazy glue?)
- An alabi
- Spam
- Multimeter
- Cordless electric soldering iron
- Parts box
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