December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: Jim Bell goes to Jail--We should avoid raidable, physical meeting
by Chris DiBona 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

<RANT> I couldn't disagree with you more Tim. If the FBI wants to come raid a Cypherpunk meeting and arrest me, they should be ready for a law suit that will make thier heads spin. I mean can you think of anything more protected by the first amendment than a bunch of hobbiest getting together to discuss math, for christs sakes? I know a couple of lawyers who would drool at the chance to defend someone who is lily white and is arrested for meeting and discussing prime numbers. To suggest the cessation of meetings (no matter how worthless Dimitri) really seems to me to be counter to everything this group is about. </RANT> Chris DiBona -----Original Message----- From: Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM [SMTP:dlv@bwalk.dm.com] Sent: Monday, May 19, 1997 4:30 AM To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: Jim Bell goes to Jail--We should avoid raidable, physical meeting Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> writes: > (Also, I suggest _physical_ Cypherpunks meetings not be held for the > foreseeable future. I know I plan to skip them all. A gathering of "reputed > information terrorists, who have openly discussed assassination markets, C4 > explosives, and the destabilization of democratic governments" would be too > ripe a target for clowns like Reno, Freeh, and Kallstrom.) The physical meetings I've been to were not worth the trip. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Message
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:03:35 -0600 (MDT) From: Graham-John Bullers <real(a)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> To: lucifer Anonymous Remailer <lucifer(a)dhp.com> Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: [CRYPTO] Blowfish Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com I think Vulis needs each of us to send ten copies of this back to him. On Thu, 15 May 1997, lucifer Anonymous Remailer wrote: > Here, Tim C. May descends into Graham-John Bullers. He should have a cold shower and/or a Turkish coffee. > > ___\ > <o \__o Tim C. May > X\ X> > _/_\____<_\_ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Graham-John Bullers Modulator of alt.2600.modulated ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ email : real(a)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca : ab756(a)freenet.toronto.on.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~real/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Sun to sell 3des from Russia
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://cnnfn.com/digitaljam/9705/19/sun/ Sun will reportedly sell encryption software through a Russian firm May 19, 1997: 6:26 a.m. ET NEW YORK (CNNfn) -- In an attempt to get around U.S. regulations regarding the export of encryption technology, Sun Microsystems Inc. is reportedly planning to sell data security software internationally through a Russian supplier. -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume

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Forgery detection
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim C. May is just another garden variety Intel pansy that has been misusing its `manhole' so badly that the overstretched sphincter cannot hold back the shit that all Intellers are full of and it spills out onto this mailing list. /\_/\ ( x x ) -oo0-(o o)-0oo- Tim C. May

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Re: CFV: moderate sci.cryonics -- CENSORING antispammers
by Igor Chudov ＠ home 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Joseph J. Strout (jstrout(a)ucsd.edu) wrote in * In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.970513130935.19729B-100000(a)panix.com>, Charles * Platt <cp(a)panix.com> wrote: * >> >Unacceptable messages include personal attacks, messages posted * >> >without a valid sender address, and any message not pertaining to the * >> >topics above. * > * >I would like to interpret "valid sender address" as meaning an address to * >which replies can be sent, without them bouncing. This would include * >anonymous remailers that allow an (anonymized) reply function. It would * >exclude anonymous remailers that don't allow such a function. * > * >Perhaps we could hear from the person who drafted the CFV to clarify this * >point. Or Keith Lynch could tell us whether he plans to use this * >interpretation. * * Yes, I drafted the CFV, and this is exactly what I meant by "valid sender * address". This is clearly distinguishable from a fake address, which does * not really exist and to which no email can be sent. Requiring a valid * return address applies a small amount of accountability to the poster. * This is the same criterion used, for example, when posting via DejaNews. There is nothing good about this "accountability", and this is precisely what I object to in the CFV. There is no need for "accountability" in the moderated newsgroup. - Igor.

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Remailer messages of variable length
by nobody＠hidden.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To complicate traffic analysis Sender can add a padding to his message before encrypting it for some remailer in chain. So that the message is shortened after decryption and stripping of pseudo headers. It can be done with a dummy header lines: ## Padding: fjx6zRURnnK1DV4CdL7gbHpnUiV1KbbRf5HatXiaD+ZPtH0 ... Also, for a length increment a remailer may understand commands like: ## Pad-length: 1K Pad-encrypt-for: remailer(a)replay.com It will then add the 'Padding:' header and re-encrypt the message with the appropriate remailer's public key. The next remailer in chain will see the padding and will try do decrypt the message twice... If stealth crypto is used, a random padding can be simply attached to the end of the message. Also, the remailer by itself can decide to increase a message length to cover some rare big messages. ---

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test
by Jacks-Biz＠usa.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

test

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RSA v PGP lawsuit
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I drove down to the courthouse in Redwood City today and took a look at the court file for RSA v PGP. The complaint is already online at <http://jya.com/rsavpgp.txt>; there are two exhibits which accompany the complaint in the file, Exhibit A is a 30-page patent license agreement (which I didn't bother to have copied at $.75/page), the second is Exhibit B, a letter from RSA's attorneys to Leonard Mikus of Lemcom Systems dated 4/16/97, which describes the basics of the dispute between RSA and PGP. I copied the letter and have placed it online at <http://www.parrhesia.com/rsapgp.html>. The lawsuit itself is not for monetary damages, but for declaratory and injunctive relief - RSA is asking the court to declare that the license agreement's provision regarding arbitration did not survive the termination of the license; that the royalty, payment, and accounting provisions of the license agreement did survive its termination; and for an injunction ordering PGP to comply with the agreement's terms for paying royalties and accounting for sales. What I find interesting is what is not included in the suit - a claim for patent infringement. (Such a claim can only be filed in federal court, and this suit was filed - at the plaintiff's choice - in San Mateo County Superior Court, a California state court.) The letter identifies several areas of disagreement between the parties: 1. RSA believes it had the right to approve or reject the PGP/Lemcom merger 2. RSA says that PGP has licensed the patent to OEM customers, in violation of the license agreement 3. RSA says that PGP has licensed certain source code to some customers, in violation of the license agreement 4. RSA says that Lemcom has not made a royalty payment since the third quarter of 1996. (But I'm sure I saw something - in the media? - where PGP says they've been making royalty payments.) And the letter says that RSA is immediately terminating PGP's license to use/make software including the RSA public-key algorithm because of those breaches. PGP hadn't filed a response yet - they'll have 30 days to do so from the date of service, and I think they were served with the suit somewhere around the 10th of May. (There was a proof of service document in the file, but I didn't bother having it copied.) -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles(a)netbox.com | http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | Export jobs, not crypto.

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More on the Jim Bell case
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The local news just had a story on the Jim Bell case. They are now claiming that the search warrent (how the news people got a copy is a big question) included Sarin nerve gas and Anthrax (not the band). The news story was a pretty interesting hatchet job. Included a number of horsemen and prominently mentioned encryption. They claimed that the reason for the raid on East's home was because he sent Bell encrypted messages containing various evil and unauthorized thoughts. Why am I not surprised... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM4D6e+QCP3v30CeZAQHE4Af/TVM1CJHKCu+1YE1MJ7rifbRmfINGI7jv EPYv/6Hd4ymKTuvVL40lvjCCTUTcOvPssFsJRUpjiRSBugVmbw7q4FbbBwG8cE3Y SsaB+hFcJWBoWfs/aGBbHPv5ZBFdmWDoqFBIfAbnxeSBNLCEPYF5Uv+b59BbwSeL fk8yavmAeCO0tieXU0MZwZUpavodNAD1WC7JlPHE1UYZAjy67WOW2UxwLaNgI5VM LeHmBKYBUxEUdofuUUGbLoUNAFvj009Lq4n0vTR5op1bxoClaXia20t8BW4xAZoR Y8ZqEBrQ+hlDjRJaWKUjVSq1AmOeoVbhL/18fN7WvxiAPn6aNuP++A== =w8P/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- | "Bill Clinton - Bringing back the sixties one Nixon at a time." | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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by bob＠bobsoftheworld.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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