December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: anonymous remailers
by Andrew Loewenstern 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Charley Musselman writes: > Does anyone know the answer? Specifically, how can we choose > a trusted remailer? The answer is to run your own remailer. Make sure your chain includes your remailer at least once. If you can't trust yourself, who can you trust? andrew

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Project 25 Radio
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The National Communications Systems published in the Federal Register of February 6, a notice of FTR1024 covering Land Mobile Radio, Project 25. The recommentation specifies encryption: DES (Type 3) and Type 1 for classified use. The specifications are based on seven public TIA documents and one classified NSA document. "This recommendation is intended to facilitate interoperability among telecommunication facilities and systems of the Federal Government." The official document is available in PDF format at: http://members.aol.com/Project25/1024.pdf We've prepared a hypertext version: http://jya.com/ftr1024.htm

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Re: Cypherpunks FOIA request
by John Pearson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> On 1/18/97, I sent freedom of information act requests to the FBI (main and > San Francisco offices), CIA, NSA, and Secret Service, asking them for copies > of information in their files relating to or referring to the cypherpunks > list, the cypherpunks meetings, and copies of any messages sent from or to > "cypherpunks(a)toad.com". [...] > I'm not sure what I think about the response from the SF FBI branch - it > seems unlikely that they'd never have paid any attention to the list, given > the media coverage in Wired and other places. On the other hand, maybe the > FBI doesn't read Wired. :) While they're not supposed to be monitoring > noncriminal domestic activity, I figured they'd at least have something about > the Mykotronix stuff. > If you think so, you may wish to consider filing an FOIA request for the Mykotronix stuff, and see if it mentions cypherpunks; it could provide an interesting perspective on their response. John P. john(a)huiac.apana.org.au

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Re: My Departure, Moderation, and "Ownership of the List"
by Mark Grant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Adam Back wrote: > My vote is for renaming: > `cypherpunks-unedited' -> `cypherpunks' > and `cypherpunks' -> `cypherpunks-edited' I have to agree. I'm only a 'cypherpunk' in the sense of setting up various crypto-related Web sites and writing and giving away thousands of lines of cryptography code rather than regularly posting to the list, but my main concern is that the default for the list has gone from anarchy to moderation. If the users of the list truly believe in anarchistic solutions to problems then the moderated list should exist *in addition* to the unmoderated list, rather than replacing it. In a truly anarchistic society the cypherpunks list would be an unmoderated forum full of spam and opinions related in some way to the list topics and numerous moderators would charge us for their versions of the list in which they simply pass on the messages they like. We could then choose a moderator whose interests are similar to ours and pay them for providing us with apropriate information. IMHO this is the way that mailing lists and Usenet are likely to evolve as they become too large for us to read and react to all posts; we should be in the vanguard of creating appropriate solutions to the problems. Providing a moderated list which saves me from dowloading spam is a worthwhile exercise which is potentially valuable to me (and I'm grateful to Sandy for offering such a service for free), but I do not believe that it should be the default for new subscribers. Mark |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| |Mark Grant M.A., U.L.C. EMAIL: mark(a)unicorn.com | |WWW: http://www.unicorn.com/ MAILBOT: bot(a)unicorn.com | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|

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Hello, Duncan
by Gr8SClaus＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I saw your listing for accessing senior citizens newsgroups through compuserve. Do you think, by chance, that the same would be possible through america online? I'm a senior citizen of 59 but find myself liking middle age to older and find the only source on line (that i can locate as am anateur) is netpics.com and you have to pay for this service. But I do enjoy looking at older GUYS and find mostly girls--even on netpics. Thanks. Dave

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No Subject
by Huge Cajones Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 07:13:18 -0800 From: Dale Thorn <dthorn(a)gte.net> :When I was in the Perot camp Gotta be Dale! A measure of my health; I admit preferring the invective of Tim and Dr. V. to this purile nonsense. Pablum for the c'punk masses. Ciao

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[IMPORTANT] Zero-knowledge interactive proofs
by Huge Cajones Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Many forgeries are traceable with mathematical certainty to feebleminded Timmy C. May's poison keyboard. .oooO Oooo. ( ) _ _ ( ) \ ( / ) ( \ ) / ----\_)-/ (---) \-(_/---- ( ) ( ) oooO Oooo

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Cool Names, Lost in Flames
by Otto Matic 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Some time ago Human Gus-Peter wrote something that went like this: > I still think that you should just let your kids run your machine or > just pick the guy with the coolest name, like Attila the Hun or > Genocide or OttOmatic. Thanks, Human Gus-peter. I think my name is cool also. I am only suscribeed to the flames list, because my uncle (a secret guy) reads the CENSORED list. This way we can see what the other secret guys are up to, and what kind of KewL StUfF they throw into the Flames Trashcan. Human Gus-peter, I think you should be very careful. They throw everything you write into the trash. That could mean they are watching you. That could be VERY bad for you. We will see where this message goes. otto =-=-=-=-=- Otto Matic "Fuckin' A, Miller!" Bud, Repo Man --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------

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Re: My messages not appearing on either of the lists?
by Sandy Sandfort 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Mike Duvos wrote: > ...Messages apparently do not get moderated in the order in > which they are received... All messages are filtered and posted in the order in which I receive them. S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Hello, Duncan
by Gr8SClaus＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I saw your listing for accessing senior citizens newsgroups through compuserve. Do you think, by chance, that the same would be possible through america online? I'm a senior citizen of 59 but find myself liking middle age to older and find the only source on line (that i can locate as am anateur) is netpics.com and you have to pay for this service. But I do enjoy looking at older GUYS and find mostly girls--even on netpics. Thanks. Dave

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