December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: IPG Algorith Broken!
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:09 AM 11/23/1996, Eric Murray wrote: >No, you can't. It's impossible to prove an algorithim unbreakable. No? Please prove your assertion. Your claim is similar to IPG's - nobody has done it yet. Your claim is stronger - hardly anybody has worked on IPG's algorithm, nor are they likely to. diGriz

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Re: Exon Countdown Clock and farewell messages
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is a draft of my letter to our dear retiring senator. Any suggested improvements? ------------- Honorable Senator Exon, Although in all likelyhood you will never read this memorandum, I wish to express my sincere regret at your retirement and thanks for your many years of ignoble service to our nation misrepresenting the wishes of your constituents. You have served as a stallwart against change as did those who resisted the telephone, automobile, radio, television and computer (to name but a few) before you. You are a champion of politically correct thinking and behaviour, perhaps the most dangerous manifestation of an American trend to intolerence and obedience to social rules. It is a shame we will not have your carcass to kick around in the halls of Congress come next term. All the luck you're due. -- Steve Schear

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public
by rudd_a＠alph.swosu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am new here, and I was wondering, why are there still stupid, immature people on line who have the audacity, here in the 90's, to still call people a "cocksucking faggot". I mean no offense here, but please, stop using such offensive words! Thanks.... As I said, I am new here, and am a libertarian/anarchist who wants the government to butt out of our lives...I am very interested in privacy, and am also against censorship. I hope there are others out there who feel as I do, but if not, I guess I'll find out I'm on the wrong place!! :-) Anyhow, I hope you can welcome a Cincinnati goth who lives in Oklahoma...thanks!!....Amy **************************************************************************** ***** * * It's better to regret something you did than something you * * didn't do. * * * * * ********************************************************************************

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Israel crypto restrictions
by Jyri Kaljundi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyonw knoe about crypto export restrictions in Israel? The Crypto Law Survey (http://cwis.kub.nl/~frw/people/koops/lawsurvy.htm) says that there are some restrictions, but "their scope is not clear". Also I have been iformed of occasions when a company in Israel does not export strong crypto. Still I believe I have seen many programs from Israel that have unlimited strong algorithms. The real question is, why can't Checkpoint who manufactures the Firewall-1 sell DES version in Europe, but only in US and Canada. Elsewhere they use a proprietary algorithm called FWZ (48-bit). I have not any analysis done on FWZ so I don't think anyone is using it. Jüri Kaljundi AS Stallion jk(a)stallion.ee WWW ja andmeturvateenused http://www.stallion.ee/

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Re: IPG Algorith Broken!
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:33 PM 11/23/1996, Eric Murray wrote: >John Anonymous MacDonald writes: >> >> >> At 8:09 AM 11/23/1996, Eric Murray wrote: >> >No, you can't. It's impossible to prove an algorithim unbreakable. >> >> No? Please prove your assertion. > >You can't prove a negative. If it can't be proven, why do you believe it is true? The good news is that you can prove a negative. For example, it has been proven that there is no algorithm which can tell in all cases whether an algorithm will stop. >The best IPG could say is that >it can't be broken with current technology. >Next week someone might come up with a new way >to break ciphers that renders the IPG algorithim breakable. The best they can say is what they did say: they have a proof that their system is unbreakable. What you question, quite reasonably, is whether they have such a proof. >You point could have been that the same problem exists >for proofs- that next week someone could come up >with a way to prove, for all time, that an algorithim >really IS unbreakable. So, to cover that posibility >I should have said "it's currently impossible to >prove an algorithim unbreakable". :-) Or, more accurately, nobody credible has seen such a proof. But, a clever person might invent one. IPG is eager to demonstrate their proof. They should hire a professional skilled in the art to evaluate their proof and publicly announce the results. This costs less than $5000 and would be, presumably, a small part of their profits should they have invented such an algorithm. diGriz

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Re: IPG Algorith Broken!
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> The algorythm cannot be considered secure until it has been > peer-reviewed. They refuse to release the algorythm for review, simply saying > that "you can't break the code" therefore "it is secure". This isn`t strictly true. Don Wood (spit) has actually released the algorithm details for review. It`s just that no-one considers it even worthy of looking at. I wearily downloaded the details then realised I had better things to do than sift through pages of pompous self important drivel about "software one time pads." Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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[Noise] Re: Thanks/was:This is your last warning
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, aga wrote: > > > Not really, I had an I.Q. of 149, and a perfect 4.00 from > > > two different colleges, before I did my Doctorate in Law. > > > > 149 puts you at the low end of the scale, or used to, around here. > > > > True, they say genius only starts at 150; but I think I have > improved since then. This betrays your ignorance. I.Q. is scaled according to age. One does not "improve." > > The fact (if true) that you bothered to get a Doctorate in Law, rather > > than a Juris Doctor, tends to disprove the above however. > > > > Look dude, a Juris Doctor IS a Doctorate of Law. Incorrect. One can obtain a Doctorate in Law, (As in Dr.) but it is generally a pointless endeavor except in some civil law jurisdictions. (Liechtenstein is a good example, where many attornies have a Dr.Iur. (Dr.) while others merely have a Lic.Iur. (J.D.) ). A J.D. requires no dissertation. A Doctorate in Law does. I submit you know too little about any of these to have attained either one. > Do not confuse it with a L.L.D. which is a "Doctorate > of Legal Letters" A J.D. is the only current valid > Doctorate that you can do in plain "Law." Incorrect. A J.D. is not a true Doctorate, and even if it were, it would not be the only current valid "Doctorate" that you can "do" in "plain Law." Georgetown, as an example, offers a Doctorate in Law degree which requires a J.D., an LL.M. and three years of legal teaching experience simply to qualify for the program. A Doctor of Judicial Science program is also available with many of the same requirements. Both programs require a dissertation and a defense of same. San Marcos University is also known for an exceptional Doctor of Laws program. Incidently, LL.D.s are rare and generally useful only in European circles. As usual, you have overextended your bounds and now find yourself swimming in water over your head. > > > > > > > Go to law school. In the meantime, shut up. > > > > > > > > > > Go and eat your swiss cheese, as that is apparently all you > > > are good for. My mercenaries are too busy to go to europe > > > right now. > > > > I prefer Chedder. > > > > Be careful who you threaten. It might get you in trouble. > > > > Threatening to wipe out your location on the InterNet is > not against ANY law whatsoever, and I can mailbomb you, do > a DOS attack, fork-bomb attack and virus attack against you, > all of which are perfectly legal. Actually, they are not. Unauthorized access of a computer system is a crime. Anyone who had a "doctorate" in law would know this. I doubt your reference to mercenaries was merely a threat to my system, but keep pushing if you like. > > > Look asshole, I graduated from Law School with a Doctorate > > > in 1975. Now just go away and stop interfering with our > > > American Net. Which law school? And did you do a dissertation? What is its title? Do you practice? What state are you licensed in? > Face the real fact of life though dude. There is absolutely NO LAW > which prevents me from attacking and/or eliminating any address > outside of the USA, that is, even if there were any law which would > prevent me from doing the same thing to any non-government > computer right here, which there is not. Ok, do it. We'll see. > Your only protection on this Internet is to have a dozen different > addresses to access from. I can put a dozen computers up on > a dozen different T1's right now, if need be. I suggest a hobby which entails more physical activity. -- Forward complaints to : European Association of Envelope Manufactures Finger for Public Key Gutenbergstrasse 21;Postfach;CH-3001;Bern Vote Monarchist Switzerland

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NEWS.COM Dispatch 12.02.96
by The CNET newsletter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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(no subject)
by Javier Rivera 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unsuscribe cypherpunks

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Modulating the FM noise spectrum considered infeasible
by Timothy C. May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:30 PM +0100 11/29/96, Pavel Korensky wrote: >paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk wrote: >> >> I`m not entirely sure about the possibility of correlations in any of >> these sources but they aren`t really a good idea because all can be >> accessed by someone else. eg. Steal your random noise audio tape, >> sample dolby decoded sound at the same time as you etc. > >And what if I will use FM receiver, tuned on some channel where is the noise. >If the potentional attacker don't know the what channel was tuned, he is not >able to reproduce this IMHO. Of course, maybe it is possible to record the >whole >spectrum to tapes, but I think that the noise will change when recorded and >played back from tape. Not to mention the point that an external attacker--say, the NSA van parked across the street--will under no circumstances be able to measure "the" spectrum: his antennas cannot possibly measure the signals (at the lower bits) seen by the FM receiver, noise source local to the computer, whatever. (Obviously other SIGINT/TEMPEST methods might be able to read the bits in other ways, but this is a different issue. Ditto for black bag cryptanalysis, which is usually the most cost-effective approach.) Likewise, feeding the FM antennas with "special hiss" is implausible in the extreme. Again, the attackers don't know antenna responses, atmospheric and room geometry variations, etc. Even if the FM hiss were to be somewhat biased, the LSBs would have a fair amount of entropy....collecting and distilling this entropy would still be trivial. Yes, this is all obvious stuff. But it keeps coming up. Not even the NSA has the super powers to modulate the FM noise spectrum in a cost-effective way. Having said this, Johnson noise makes a superior noise source, if a physical source is desired. --Tim May Just say "No" to "Big Brother Inside" We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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