December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Bounty Server, Revisited.
by Omegaman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> The objective is to actually bring this system online. "cypherpunks write code." good. > Background: > > There is a lot of software floating around. It basically falls into > 5 catagories: Commercial, Shareware, Freeware, Gnu (and other > "Copyleft" schemes) and Public Domain. > <Need to fill this in, but at this point we all know what the 5 types > are> > > It is the "Copylefted" software that interests me at this point. There > is quite a bit of high quality "Gnu" software, and at least one > operating system based on the GNU mentality (linux) however there > is a dearth of _enduser_ tools such as mail and news readers for > the more popular end user operating systems, word processors and > graphics editing software, easy to use Graphic Design Software (TeX > is NOT easy to use) and easy to use Cryptographic software. many would pay good money for Linux native versions of programs like Wordperfect, Corelpaint & draw, Pagemaker , etc. > 4) Desired "quality" level: Proof of Concept, Alpha, Beta, Release etc. Needs flesh. What defines "alpha" or "beta" for purposes of bounty or is that up to the person initiating the bounty? > 6) Where the initiators money is to go if the bounty is not claimed: > I will provide a short (8 or 10) list of charities that the money > will go to if the bounty is not met. This is to keep the initiator > honest, as well as the server. Each contributor will also get this > choice. Do you have the charities in mind? They should be listed in the abstract, I think. Who will be publicize the initial bounty offer -- the server or bounty initiator? Information about a specific software project will need to be disseminated beyond bounty.org. More details on conflict resolution are needed in a final draft. The process and priorites the server administator will use to make his judgements should be abastractly discussed and possibly 1 or 2 specific hypotheticals detailed. me -------------------------------------------------------------- Omegaman <mailto:omega@bigeasy.com> PGP Key fingerprint = 6D 31 C3 00 77 8C D1 C2 59 0A 01 E3 AF 81 94 63 Send a message with the text "get key" in the "Subject:" field to get a copy of my public key. --------------------------------------------------------------

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No Subject
by nobody＠replay.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

oh mindless aga, >> This betrays your ignorance. I.Q. is scaled according to age. One does >> not "improve." Certainly not in your case. > >I have no ignorance, except for being ignorant of stupid people >who call themselves "punks." If you are ignorant of them, then how do you know that they are "stupid"? >Look asshole; it says "LAW DOCTOR" -- that is what "Juris Doctor" >means, stupid. And I am about to stick the motherfucking Laws >right up your cocksucking ASS! How is this possible? It seems that you are possible of rather contemptible contortions! >"Juris" means Law. So Juris Doctor means "Law Doctor." Clinging to technicalities here, aren't we? >that is irrelevant, and you are off-topic. Oooh! Oooh! Point the finger here, aga, at YOURSELF! >Europe is also irrelevant, and you keep missing the point here. >You have added the cypherpunks list again, and that was forbidden. What a wonderful statement: Europe is irrelevant!!! A truly educated mind here. >look asshole, you really want that list killed, do you not? >I have no bounds, as you will soon learn. When one is clapped in irons and thrown into prison for whatever it is that your acts can be classified under, then I am pretty sure they have _some_ bounds. >> > > Be careful who you threaten. It might get you in trouble. One wonders if you ever pay attention to what you actually write, aga? >WRONG! There is NO crime which covers anything that one does >internationally! And mailbombing is NOT "Unauthorized access," >regardless of where it occurs! Uhm...oops, aga, you're wrong here, there are plenty of crimes that are international crimes. War crimes for example, which o against the Geneva convention. Child abduction crimes, which go against the Hague convention. But I am sure they will give you a slight slap on the wrist, after all, you are only a stupid hillbilly with no idea of the law. >Pitt-1975; Dissertation was in 1983 actions. I practiced for >six years, and then became perfect. I currently do not practice for >any parties other than myself, family, corporation or Institutes, >and I need no license for that. And since I do not carry any >license from any State, there is NOTHING that you can do to stop me. Assassination comes to mind... >The State disciplinary board has no jurisdiction, nor does any >Law. A Criminal Lawyer is a specialist in ripping new assholes >on the witness stand, and that must now also be practiced on the net, >it seems. Remember, you are the one who asked for this, "Sadam." You seem to have this absolute _fascination_ with asses, faggots, cocks, and ripping _new_ assholes (as if you weren't a big enough one already. This is obviously some sort of concious repression: you just can't face the truth, can you, aga? >This is a world-wide internet problem that you are about to get >taken care of. You will be among the first locations to be >eliminated. And just remember that your termination is your own >doing. You had your chance to keep the fucking cypherpunks list >OFF of your e-mail to me, and blew it. Do we run and hide now, mommy? >> I suggest a hobby which entails more physical activity. >> > >I pump iron and run three times a week. And as a Tae Kwon Do >black belt holder, I get lots of physical activity. I am in >better physical shape than any other man that you know. He/she/it pumps iron, does he/she/it? Whilst running? No mean feat for a thing without a brain. Assuming that you are better than anyone else you have probably never met, someone who probably has no desire to meet a thing like yourself, is yet another example of your sheer assonance! >And just understand, as far as the internet is concerned, Europe does >not mean SHIT! Of course not...I am sure the European Internet thinks the same as you. After all, an inanimate object seems to think just as much as you! --The Edge

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Re: TIA Invites
by droelke＠rdxsunhost.aud.alcatel.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> > > A rep of the Telecommunications Industry Association > telephoned to say that TIA has invited authority to > investigate disclosure of TIA's TR45.3 to the unworthy. > > Did I miss something... What is this disclosure of TR45.3 about? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Oelke Alcatel Network Systems droelke(a)aud.alcatel.com Richardson, TX

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Re: Today's hearing (Re: Dorthy Denning is a boot-licking fasicist!!!)
by snow 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> at 06:34 AM, snow <snow(a)smoke.suba.com> said: > > Well, it's been said before, you are know by the company you keep. > <sigh> well after my survivalist training & military training in the '80's > I thought I was well prepaired for those dam Ruskies. Seems the way things > are going I am going to need them for those dam Americans. Who Knew Some people kinda suspected it would happen. I mean, when I was in the military, and I looked at the goons I was serving with, I realized what the enemy was. Petro, Christopher C. petro(a)suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff> snow(a)smoke.suba.com

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DSP's & crypto
by Tim Scanlon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

About a year or 2 ago I read some stuff in sci.crypt about some people doing encryption stuff, I belive with DES, using DSP chips, I am interested in finding the folks who were working on it, or related code. If anyone out there has that sort of info I would appreciate some pointers in their direction. Thanks, Tim Scanlon

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NIST seeks DES replacement.
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

See: http://www.fcw.com/pubs/fcw/1111/des.htm Federal Computer Week, Nov 11, 1996. "DES set for overhaul." by HEATHER HARRELD The content is kind of thin, but it amounts to a statement that NIST is preparing a Federal Register request for a successor to DES. Most the article concerns the termendous hassle replacing DES will be for government agencies (FCW is a trade rag for people working with computers in the Federal and State sectors - I used to get it when I was at MITRE.) There's a truely clueless comment at the end, where Mike Schwartz of "Prime Factors Inc., an Oregon-based security firm" is quoted as saying "...DES shows no signs of weakening." ----------------------------- While 3DES-EDE is the obvious replacement, it would be far from an easy switch, since there are a huge number of fielded devices for handling the 64 bit single DES keys. I wonder how good a drop-in replacement could be made if the goal was to NOT have to replace the key handling infrastructure - just replace a single software module or chip. If we use the bits currently devoted to parity in DES keys for actual key data, we gain 8 bits, or a factor of x256 in the keyspace. If we further complicate the key schedule setup, so it's much slower than DES in both hardware and software (lots of rotates, multiplies, state, etc), we can make life a lot more difficult for brute force attacks. Maybe some version of Blowfish, using the same key twice - I have not studied Blowfish, so I don't know if this introduces an obvious weakness. Happy Thanksgiving! Peter Trei trei(a)process.com Peter Trei Senior Software Engineer Purveyor Development Team Process Software Corporation http://www.process.com trei(a)process.com

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Re: Star Trek: First Contact
by drose＠AZStarNet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, The Deviant <deviant(a)pooh-corner.com> wrote: > >On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > >> Mark Allyn 206-860-9454 <allyn(a)allyn.com> writes: >> >> > Are any of the characters in the new Star Trek gay? >> >> The bold guy who plays Captain Picard is very gay in real life. >> (He probably hated all those love episodes with women :-) >> > >Patrick Stewart is married, isn't he? So was Rock Hudson. Let's not forget that in the '50s, Liberace sued (successfully! - and collected significant monetary damages!) "Confidential" magazine for implying that he was homosexual. Not that it makes any difference at all.

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PBS Re-runs...
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

PBS locally was rerunning an episode of "Life on the Internet" last night. It was the one about PGP and Phil Zimerman. It was pretty old (by net standards). Phil had just gotten his case dropped. (And they mentioned the FBI's "Search for the Unibomber" page. What I found frightening about the whole thing was Jim Kalstrom's comments during the whole thing. He brought up the Four Horsemen, as well as their brothers, cousins, sisters, and the contents of a large family horseman reunion. He kept mentioning as to how we had to be able to tap CRIMINALS. What he never mentioned is who those suspected criminals are. ("We have met the enemy and they is us!") Personally I found the argument on the government side pretty weak. (My wife's comment was that they got lazy using all these newfangled toys and did not want to have to get back to doing real police work and real investigations.) Kalstrom made it pretty clear by his own words that he wanted to "catch the bad guys" and he did not care what rights he trod on doing it. Phil came off real well on the program. The one thing that failed to mention is the amount of foreign development that has gone into PGP. (As well as the availability of it at sites around the world.) --- | "Remember: You can't have BSDM without BSD." | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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Your login/password for SafePassage beta
by SafePassage Downloader 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

You can now download SafePassage. You'll need the following login/password: Login: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Password: 2xLBsxut Go to http://stronghold.ukweb.com/safepassage/ and select "Download" -- you'll be prompted for your login/password, after which you'll be able to download the software. Make sure you keep your login/password private. Revealing your login/password to anyone is a violation of the license agreement.

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Re: wealth and property rights
by Clay Olbon II 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:17 PM 11/27/96 -0500, Jim Wise wrote: >Actually, at the risk of interrupting your little diatribe, the average >welfare recipient is on the dole for under 4 months. While we're on the >subject, I may as well point out that the average welfare recipiant is also >white, lives in a lower-middle class suburban neighborhood, and has two or >fewer children, but you'd never know it from watching the pols... Just because lots of white folks get it for a short time it must be OK then ;-) Welfare (and the so-called safety net) hurt far more people than it helps. The poverty rate in this country is unchanged after 30 years of transfer payments totalling over a trillion dollars. The worst living conditions in the country are in areas of subsidized housing. It ought to start clicking with someone soon that the only people the current system really helps are in Washington DC. I don't have a solution, but I can face the reality that what we currently have doesn't work. By extension, I believe that most changes offered (more $$, minor tweaks to the system), will offer similarly poor results. > >At any rate, as I mentioned in my last post, you and I are paying three times >as much to corporate welfare as to personal welfare... > >[Source: Michael Moore _Downsize_This_, NY Crown Books, 1996] Micheal Moore is far down on my list of reputable authors. His point is blatantly untrue, as it equates direct transfer payments (welfare) to tax breaks (in the same light, your mortgage and dependant deductions should count as transfer payments to individuals). Not that I am for corporate welfare. Personally, I am for elimination of corporate income tax entirely - who do you think really pays it? Hint - it is you and me in higher prices for goods and lower return on investments. As such, it is the worst kind of tax, an invisible one. >> See my above points. Implement this and prepare the for US to become a >> third world country. 100% inheritance taxes would probably be the largest >> incentive for people to leave (they leave now with ONLY a 50% inheritance > >Actually, the US has one of the lowest tax rates in the world, and far >less of your tax money goes to welfare (or foreign aid, or disaster relief, >etc.) than in any other industrialized nation... BINGO! You win the prize. We also have lower unemployment, higher GDP growth and more economic stability than any of the other large industrialized counties. You think there might be a correlation there? >Yes, your taxes do go to those who are producing nothing, namely a bunch of >CEOs and wealthy shareholders This is just silly. If you run a business you are employing lots of folks, and you are delivering a product or service. This is producing. If you are a shareholder, you are risking your capital to support a business, hoping that business will grow, producing more jobs, etc. Besides, because of the growth of 401K plans, the majority of Americans now fall into the shareholder category. >> them even greater incentives for producing nothing (heck, get welfare >> payments up around $50K and I would quit work - I could find lots of >> enjoyable and intellectually stimulating ways to keep myself busy!). > >Or welfare payments of up to $500 million at a shot, if you happen to be GE, or >General Motors... As I said, I don't agree with corporate welfare. Of course, GM produces far more jobs than the average welfare recipient. >The only examples of large-scale socialism we have are in extremely statist >environemnts. Statism is brutal and innefficient no matter what economic >system it pays lip service to. Agreed. But how do you redistribute wealth without a statist society? The only reason I pay taxes is because I will go to jail if I don't. Clay ******************************************************* Clay Olbon olbon(a)ix.netcom.com engineer, programmer, statistitian, etc. **********************************************tanstaafl

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