December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Let's Say "No!" to Single, World Versions of Software
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:27 PM 8/1/96, David Lesher wrote: >Tom Weinstein writes: > >> We only ship the domestic version to addresses inside the US. They >> State Department seems to think this is sufficient. Of course, a >> foreign person can always fly here and pick up a copy at Fry's, but >> that's not our problem. > >Or just walk out of a Mission, and buy one on K Street. > >But it's easier to just get an account on an ISP. > >I recall several chats with a .nl UN Mission Staffer. He was on >Panix or PSI or such. Maybe we should require proof of citizenship >before granting a license to use IP. I know some Russians, through various connections in the Valley. They routinely stock up on software at Fry's, in Sunnyvale, Palo Alto, etc., load up their suitcases, and then fly back to Moscow. (Of course, the bulk is not too great, because they only buy one copy of each program....) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Is 1024-bit PGP key enough?
by Geoffrey C. Grabow 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 15:38 08/01/96 PDT, Jim Gillogly wrote: > >Somebody says: >>> Is security provided by 1024-bit PGP key sufficient against most powerful >>> computers that are available today? Say if smoe organization spent 10 >>> billions of dollars on a cracking machine, would it be possible to crack >>> the keys in reasonable time? > >Derek Atkins <warlord(a)MIT.EDU> responds with some useful and authoritative >information -- thanks. > Also, remember that although the PGP key is 1024 bits, it generates a much smaller IDEA key with 56 bits (I think... anyone?). The 56 bit key is vunerable to that $1 mil mystery machine that the NSA may or may not have. G.C.G. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Geoffrey C. Grabow | Great people talk about ideas. | | Oyster Bay, New York | Average people talk about things. | | gcg(a)pb.net | Small people talk about people. | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | PGP 2.6.2 public key available at http://www.pb.net/~wizard | | and on a plethora of key servers around the world. | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | That which does not kill us, makes us stranger. - Trevor Goodchild | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Southern Cracker Beer Bombs in Trucks
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:16 PM 8/1/96, Joey Grasty wrote: >* All joking aside, Jim is a very fine brewmaster. I just wish >he'd spend a few bucks and ferment in something other than 2 liter >coke bottles that explode in someone's truck... "Explode"? Is this one of those southern cracker beer bombs? Let's see...circumstantially, we've got: - a southerner - a truck - an explosion I'd say that if Jim is either overweight or has ever fired a gun, we've got an arrest before dawn. But we've got to hurry--NBC wants Katie Couric present at the bust. --Louis Freeh Buy a section of metal water pipe 1/2 by 6 inches long, threaded on both ends. Buy two metal caps to fit. These are standard items in hardware stores. Drill a 1/16th hole in the center of the pipe. This is easy with a good drill bit. Hanson is a good brand to use. Screw a metal cap tightly on one end. Fill the pipe to within 1/2 inch of the top with black powder. Do not pack the powder. Don't even tap the bottom of the pipe to make it settle. You want the powder loose. For maximum explosive effect, you need dry, fine powder sitting loose in a very rigid container.

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An example of KKKlintonista harrassment and censorship
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From mwohler(a)ix.netcom.com Thu Aug 1 20:40:35 1996 Received: by bwalk.dm.com (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Thu, 01 Aug 96 22:34:41 EDT for dlv Received: from [206.214.98.6] by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA25392 for dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:40:35 -0400 Received: from Marc's Station (nyc-ny20-18.ix.netcom.com [205.186.166.210]) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA24954 for <dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com>; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:40:33 -0700 Message-Id: <199608020040.RAA24954(a)dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: mwohler(a)popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 20:42:45 -0400 To: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) From: "Marc J. Wohler" <mwohler(a)ix.netcom.com> Subject: RE:Clinton is a terrorist and a murderer. At 05:22 PM 8/1/96 EDT, you wrote: >"Marc J. Wohler" <mwohler(a)ix.netcom.com> writes: > >> At 10:43 PM 7/29/96 EDT, you wrote: >> >> >Clinton is a terrorist and a murderer. >> >> Can you explain or expand on this? >> > >How much will you pay me for my time? Just as I suspected.*Ignorant bullshit*

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Re: Southern Cracker Beer Bombs in Trucks
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:23 PM 8/1/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >Buy a section of metal water pipe 1/2 by 6 inches long, threaded on both >ends. Buy two metal caps to fit. These are standard items in hardware >stores. Drill a 1/16th hole in the center of the pipe. This is easy with a >good drill bit. Hanson is a good brand to use. Screw a metal cap tightly >on one end. Fill the pipe to within 1/2 inch of the top with black powder. >Do not pack >the powder. Don't even tap the bottom of the pipe to make it settle. You want >the powder loose. For maximum explosive effect, you need dry, fine powder >sitting loose in a very rigid container. For "safety" purposes (at least for the builder!) I would add that the threads on the pipe should be covered with a generous quantity of vaseline, grease, wax, or other similar material. Otherwise, the final tighten-up might cause an explosion if granules of powder get stuck in the threads and ignite due to friction. Evidence reduction tips: Discard drill bit used to make hole in pipe. Carefully avoid leaving any drill shavings in work area. Completely use/discard any extra powder/fuse not used in the bomb. (Chemical analysis will reveal similarity...) When tightening the pipe/cap, shield the work with a thick layer of folded-up paper towel or other material, so your Vice-Grips (or other such wrench, or vice) don't leave "tool marks" on the pipe. (Discard, by burning, such paper after use.) Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: Is 1024-bit PGP key enough?
by David F. Ogren 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Fri Aug 02 01:13:30 1996 >Somebody says: >>> Is security provided by 1024-bit PGP key sufficient against most powerful >>> computers that are available today? Say if smoe organization spent 10 >>> billions of dollars on a cracking machine, would it be possible to crack >>> the keys in reasonable time? I'll defer to Mr. Atkin's numbers here, although I think that TLA's may have more computing power than his rough estimates. No matter what the exact numbers are, it seems that the answer is the same. 1024 bit keys appear to be secure for 1996, at least for individuals. You also have to remember that even if a 1024 bit key could be cracked for a mere [sic] million dollars, you have succeeded in making it easier for an organization to break into your house and bug your computer than crack your RSA key. Or use some other method (bribery, extortion, violence) to obtain that information. > Also, remember that although the PGP key is 1024 bits, it generates a > much > smaller IDEA key with 56 bits (I think... anyone?). The 56 bit key is > vunerable to that $1 mil mystery machine that the NSA may or may not > have. > IDEA keys are 128 bits long. (DES keys are the ones with 56 bits.) However, symmetric cryptosystems, such as IDEA, are harder to break by brute force. It is currently estimated that a 128 bit IDEA key is the equivalent of a 2304 bit RSA key. So, even though the 128 bit IDEA session key is shorter than the 1024 bit RSA key, the RSA key is easier to break using brute force. - -- David F. Ogren | ogren(a)concentric.net | "A man without religion is like a fish PGP Key ID: 0x6458EB29 | without a bicycle" - ------------------------------|---------------------------------------- Don't know what PGP is? | Need my public key? It's available Send a message to me with the | by server or by sending me a message subject GETPGPINFO | with the subject GETPGPKEY -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMgGOfOSLhCBkWOspAQEpzgf/Tn1gI8rjg+RxNbor9uIHMZgLWxGHcoMu WleZrgd2O/K6JNcBySpeLCVe+xgUwbdXPThLO6jP4eSwqpuNtZTLWmaU2LZond+O XIWSXRzEcvdFPoFISDpxLyLEJtZu122bc1xdlI8zhbO2CqeOcJmJ47WAaTul3wg7 MIyl7zZAvrXrzZ8ByYTpoG7C5d11kEeKCLw7ObxYXCaXXhWFphbxO8Kq3/C597H1 rb9cRu2zyt5OmN1ySMifTbrfMJvkeb9cNsSijv3q5m+ciIX5DKoH07kO82RxjT98 ndpyGbZkbZLWjKvDeNvrh2EtJRV6mfOIIZr2zaQyuyKlYmoP+VKuDA== =QN4L -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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A funny thing happend to my data on the way to the bank
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- The Prime Minister's Social Security Number Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's US Social Security Number is 172-42-6111, according to the Boston Consulting Group in Massachusetts, which employed Netanyahu for about one-year during 1979-80.=20 The number indicated by the marketing firm contradicts information contained in a credit report by the US federally-regulated Transunion Company, pulled from company files during the first days of July. According to that report, Netanyahu and an American named John J. Sullivan both used Social Security number 020-36-4537. Questions were raised in the reports as to whether Netanyahu had attempted to create a false identity or had used a number which was not his. Publication of the credit report findings, and later reports indicating that Netanyahu's name had suddenly been deleted from Transunion's files, raised additional questions about possible computer break-ins into the company's records. Netanyahu aides have repeatedly claimed that the prime minister does not remember his number. In order to untangle Netanyahu from the issue, aides three weeks ago, asked US officials to provide his number. According to the Prime Minister's Office, that request has yet to be answered. (Jerusalem Post e-mail Edition..7/31.. heather(a)jpost.co.il) =20

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Viet Nam Considered Less Harmful than Cambodia
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(Welcome back, David...I haven't seen you post in a long while) At 6:44 AM 8/1/96, David K. Merriman wrote: >Were a government - duly elected - to come into power similar to that in >30's Germany or 70's Viet Nam, so that intellectuals or the educated >became the targets of oppression, would she be as adamant about the >perceived "rights" of Government to intrude in her private life, monitor >her communications, and so on? Though I am no defender of the People's Benovolent and Democratic Government of Viet Nam, I think you must be thinking of Cambodia. It was Cambodia, in the form of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, which decided to exterminate all educated persons (except themselves, of course). Those wearing eyeglasses were considered Enemies of the People, because presumably they knew how to read. Compared to Cambodia, Viet Nam was a paradise. In fact, I cheered in '79 when Viet Nam invaded Cambodia. --Tim May, who wonders if anyone with access to the Net will become part of the mountains of skulls in Pax Americana Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: The "Secure" version of Netscape for Linux is *NOT*
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:31 PM 8/1/96 -0700, Alan Olsen wrote: >At 05:25 PM 8/1/96 -0700, Tom Weinstein wrote: >>Alan Olsen wrote: >>> >>> I just installed the "secure" version of Netscape off of the "US Only" >>> download site. >>> >>> Seems that it is actualy the international version and not the 128 bit >>> version. >> >>What makes you think you got the export version? >> >>Here's one way to find out. If you look in the Security Preferences >>panel under the Options menu, there are two "Configure" buttons for >>configuring what ciphers are enabled for SSL 2 and SSL 3. The domestic >>version supports a greater variety of options, including triple DES. > >I connected to my site running Stronghold 1.3b1. Only got 40 bit >encryption. I then connected to Netscape's Store site. Only got 40 bit >encryption. I checked the info box (or about box, I don't remember which) >for the connection and it claimed to be running the "exportable" version. >(The Win95 version connects properly to both sites with no tweaking needed.) > >I will double check, but neither site would connect with 128 bits straight >out of the tar file. My apologies to everyone involved! I fucked up! There was a period of time between when I downloaded and when I installed. The version I installed was not the one I installed from the secure site. (I had thought I had not downloaded the 3.0b5 version for Linux, except for the secure version. It seems that I had downloaded it when the first version of 3.0b5 came out, not the 3.0b5a version...) Sorry again! --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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Brian quit the feds! [was:Re: Photo IDs]
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:51 8/1/96, Brian Davis wrote: >No longer a federal prosecutor! Congratulations, Brian. Though I will miss having a confessed 'real' Fed on the list. Well, "former federal prosecutor" still sounds pretty good. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

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