December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

[pure noise] filtering Re: "censorship in cyberspace"???
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:29 PM 11/5/96 -0800, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: ... >the "automatic prose generator" technology out there leaves a lot >of other interesting ideas. an ingenious software engineer >with a flair for writing could create some pretty sophisticated >grammars that automatically generate text yet are impossible >to detect over perhaps even dozens of messages output by them. >they could even have their own personalities and writing styles, >if the software engineer were creative and devious enough. ... Consider, however, that when computers match humans in the ability to generate coherent sentences, they might have something useful to say. Even now, search, engine designers are fighting with "web spam" artists who fill thier pages with various "key" words or statements to ensnare hapless browsers. These designers are developing filtering systems to combat this, and these filters could conceivably be ported to the e-mail community to filter machine generated text. There should be a point where the prose spun by asimov's "positronic brains" and that woven by a humans own "natural" brain would be indistingushable. At this point, we might want to hear their opinions, for they should be as valid as any other.

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[noise] Re: Any Info for Sen. Pressler....
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Per Bill Stewart's comment. ... >At this point, I think he's now Ex-Senator Pressler, >if I saw the election returns I think I saw. ... Actually he would be a lame duck. Our elected officials don't take office the moment the returns come in. He has a little while left.

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Re: CLA_sh0
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:46 AM 11/6/96 -0500, John Young wrote: > Unless the West recognizes the power of cultural > conflict, it could perish from ignorance, overconfidence > and complacency. Unless Islam and China recognize the power of Coca Cola, IPOs, blue jeans, TCP/IP, and videos they could perish from lack of interest. DCF "How you gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Broadway"?

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Re: Compromise proposal
by Dave Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Igor Chudov wrote: > Dave Hayes wrote: > > Improving signal to noise is a laughable goal at a social event of > > more than 100 people, why do people insist upon trying it on the net? > To save time? At the expense of honor? ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave(a)jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind. -- Gandhi

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[URGENT] Diffie-Hellman
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timothy C. May's 16Kb brain's single convolution is directly wired to his rectum for input and his T1 mouth for output. That's 16K bits, not bytes. Anal intercourse has caused extensive brain damage.

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Exon's Seat Lost
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Exon's seat goes to Republicans (according to ABC). CDA probably not involved.

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"high noon on the electronic frontier"
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

a neat new book that's a collection of some of the more interesting essays on cyberspace called "high noon on the electronic frontier" is now in bookstores, and I highly recommend it. the editor Peter Ludlow has a good eye and aesthetic sense for exactly the more influential essays that have been written and are circulating. the list of authors/contributors is a real Who's Who in cyberspace: Barlow, Stallman, Kapor, Godwin, Denning, Zimmermann, Chaum, Rheingold, Sterling, etc. good articles by Dibbell, Levy, DeWitt, etc. but unfortunately Markoff is conspicuously absent. maybe he wanted too much money for his writing <g> TCMay is well represented with several essays in a section on "encryption, privacy, and crypto-anarchism". 3 essays, Crypto Anarchist Manifesto, Intro to Blacknet, and BlackNet worries. I was curious about TCMay's essay on Blacknet, though, that mentions a mysterious "X" who he credits as raising many of the issues surrounding Blacknet on the cpunk mailing list in Feb 1994. Ludlow states in a footnote TCMay "elided references to interlocutors". I wonder about the identity of the mysterious "X" and whether he/she is still posting to the list. does anyone know who he/she is? I was thinking it would be interesting to see whether he/she still feels the same about Blacknet and/or get a new conversation going about the subject with the insight that time can bring. I wonder why TCMay found it important to elide "X"'s identity-- perhaps "X" was one of his tentacles? (hee, hee) anyway I highly recommend this volume!! after reading this the public will get a far better idea about what cyberspace is about and what it means. a great coverage of all the key issues.

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Cypherpunk mailing list
by CHALAKKI＠worldnet.att.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please put me on your mailing list

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Net Results: elections and the Internet, from The Netly News
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:28:57 -0800 (PST) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: Net Results: elections and the Internet, from The Netly News [I recommend that you visit The Netly News to read the article with the links -- I wrote it with a web audience in mind. --Declan] --- The Netly News November 6, 1996 http://netlynews.com/ Net Results By Declan McCullagh (declan(a)well.com) Nineteen ninety-six was to have been the Year of the Netizen. Bob Dole this spring endorsed strong crypto, making it a likely campaign issue. The Communications Decency Act was accelerating toward the Supreme Court. Every political candidate sported a web page. The First Cat and the Dole Dog were online. Electronic mailing lists such as Netizens-l were springing up as symbols of netizens' hope to start wielding power over the body politic. It didn't happen. Yesterday's election largely preserves the status quo: a Clinton White House and a Republican Congress. Matters important to netizens never became campaign issues. Sure, Bill Clinton may have pledged to wire all schools to the Net, but election year rhetoric is cheap and realizing his plan will be expensive. Dole's stammering announcement of his web site's address demonstrated only his lack of a cyber-clue. Yet with the election, the political terrain has shifted subtly. Sen. Jim Exon (D-Neb.), architect of the CDA, has retired. The leadership of the powerful Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee will change. Attorney General Janet Reno, who has attacked the Net repeatedly, may step down or be replaced. Even with a slimmer majority, Republicans in the House likely will continue to resist hasty "anti-terrorist" measures and remain unlikely champions of online liberties. Some civil libertarians hope that Clinton will emerge as a statesman who for the first time does not fear defeat at the hands of voters. CYBER-RIGHTS DARLING RICK WHITE WINS REELECTION: Fighting against Internet regulation may keep the campaign checks from Bill Gates coming, but Washington State voters would rather talk about the environment. Still, cyber-rights champion and Newt Gingrich fan Rep. Rick White (R-Washington) narrowly won his first re-election bid yesterday. It's bad news for the environment and good news for netizens. As a sophomore rep, White will be in a better position to shepherd pro-cyberspace legislation through the House next year. LEADERSHIP OF SENATE COMMERCE COMMITTEE CHANGES: Larry Pressler (R-South Dakota) ended an 18-year Senate career yesterday when he lost to challenger Tim Johnson, a House Democrat. Now the chairmanship of the powerful Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee -- which handles telecommunications and Internet bills -- is in flux, with Arizona's John McCain the likely successor. "McCain is an unknown quantity. He voted for the CDA and supported crypto without being out in front on it," says Jonah Seiger from the Center for Democracy and Technology. SENATOR JOHN KERRY, TECHNO-FRIENDLY WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: Although we may not agree with all of Massachusetts incumbent Sen. Kerry's positions on Net freedom, he at least recognizes Netizens as an important constituency. His vote in favor of the CDA seemed a strike against Netizens until he vociferously modified it to say that such matters should be handled by parents rather than the law. Kerry was the only Senator to answer the Voters Telecommunications Watch Pledge, a political platform for the technological public, and now that he's been reelected we should remind him of just what that pledge means. As a senator representing high-tech firms and sitting on the Commerce and Intelligence committees, Kerry is well-positioned to back up his email with his votes. ONLINE COPYRIGHT BILL LOSES CHAMPIONS: Free speech on the Net may get a reprieve in the next Congress, thanks to the retirement of Reps. Carlos Moorhead (R-California) and Patricia Schroeder (D-Colorado). The duo championed the heinous NII Copyright Protection Act of 1995, which would hold Internet providers financially liable for the actions of their users and make browsing the Net without a license from copyright holders against the law. With librarians, PTA groups, and teachers arguing against it, the legislation died in committee this summer. IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND FCC NEXT YEAR: Brace yourself for more steamy Net-rhetoric from Al Gore, who will take a more prominent role as administration spokesperson on technology and telecom issues as he prepares for a presidential bid in 2000. Inside the White House, failed health care czar Ira Magaziner has turned his attention towards online commerce. Sensing a possible growth opportunity, the FCC has started to take an interest in Internet regulation -- and Clinton now will appoint a commissioner to fill a vacancy at the FCC. With Naderites like Jamie Love calling for FCC regulation of spam, bureaucratic meddling seems near-inevitable. ###

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Re: black high heal shoes?
by Mark Neely 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mark, >I had yet another strange dream recently: You gotta stop eating those pepperoni pizzas just before bed time! :) Regards, Mark Mark Neely - accessnt(a)ozemail.com.au Lawyer, Internet Consultant, Professional Cynic & Author

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