December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Usenet Conference on Security
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:34 PM 7/26/96 -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >As an aside, the stuff Datafellows is selling is, I believe, a >commercial version of SSH, which is very good stuff. Its a full >replacement for the whole berkeley "r" utilities using strong crypto >(public key and conventional) for authentication and privacy. Does >rlogin, rsh, redirects X sessions, slices and dices, etc. Really >spiffy. In addition to SSH, I also picked up a flyer for "F-Secure Desktop", a disk encryption package for Windows. Sorry I didn't pick up their "what we sell" flyer. You should be able to get that information from http://www.datafellows.com or f-Secure-sales(a)datafellows.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Cave ab homine unius lebri | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | [Beware the man of one | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | book] - Anonymous Latin | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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what's a weapon? (fwd)
by David Lesher 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

------- Forwarded Message ==================================================================== Newsletter of the IEEE Computer Society's TC on Security and Privacy Electronic Issue 16 July 28, 1996 Carl Landwehr, Editor Hilarie Orman, Assoc. Editor ==================================================================== ... Drawing an analogy with encryption and US ITAR, a poster reported that A piper is being taken to court for practicing on Hampstead Heath, which has a by-law forbidding music. Mr Brooks, the piper, has denied the charge. He claims he wasn't playing a musical instrument, but practicing with a weapon. In 1746 in England, bagpipes were declared to be instruments of war, not musical weapons, and a subsequent Act of Parliament specifically stated that they were weapons. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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Re: "privatizing" phones?
by Geoffrey C. Grabow 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:26 07/28/96 +0200, Remo Pini wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Date: Sun Jul 28 12:24:57 1996 >> Even if they did change the frequency the call was on, >> it would be a simple matter to decode how the frequency >> change was negotiated, and "follow" the call (also easily >> accomplished with cellular calls). Failing that, there is >> a very limited range of frequencies allocated for cordless >> fones, and simply re-scanning for the conversation is a >> trivial inconvenience. //cerridwyn// >> > >Most of those systems do also change the order of the transmitted data, and >that's not limited to a few possibilities. If it's digital, they usually >encrypt it (only weak, but hey, you normally have to find the key real >time!) >> The key doesn't need to be found in real time! You can always record the call and decrypt it later. If the information deals with an event in the future, you could have plenty of time to crack it. G.C.G.

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Re: WaPo on Crypto-Genie Terrorism
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 28 Jul 96 at 12:59, David Sternlight wrote: > >IMO, the US does not have a comfortable lead. It's already falling > >behind considering some of the stronger crypto programs available (at > >least as freeware) are made outside the US. Many of the stronger > >algorithms were invented outside of the US (IDEA for instance). > > This, and similar remarks by others, consistently misses the point which I > have been making for about a year now, and which Director Freeh finally > made explicit in his testimony last week. That is--the government is > concerned with mass market software incorporating robust crypto, used > overseas, and recognizes that they can't keep niche products off the [..] Really? The RAR archiver is getting quite popular (DOS and OS/2), and uses a variation of DES in the encryption (according to the authors). An Italian archiver called CODEC also uses DES. PGP gets more publicity than any crypto product around (CNN, NPR, Pacifica, NYTimes, etc.) and will likely get bigger as time goes on and as the arguments over escrow proposals get louder. MS's C[r]API and Netscape also make people more aware of strong crypto... > Though I've no connection with Freeh, it's interesting that his language is > almost word for word the same as what I've been using. Do you suppose some > of his staff reads my stuff? Actually, I don't care one whit. > >So why should criminals bother with using standards if they are > >readable by authorities? > > See above. Doesn't counter my question/argument. Serious criminals with a few braincells who care about wiretapping or protecting their files from the authorities will obviously not use anything that the government can read. Even a ban on unescrowed crypto worldwide will not help. Every copy of strong crypto software will not magically disappear upon the signing of such treaties and laws. [..] > >Are they going to magically erase all copies of strong software that > >is already currently available? (Side note: the Pacifica news report > >on Friday notes that while Freeh gave his testimony, over 100 copies > >of PGP were downloaded from MIT's site.) > > What he's saying is that US-exported copies of the Lotus Lockshens, > Microsoft Machayas, and Netscape Niguns of the world still do not contain > robust crypto the USG cannot read. So? People can use alternate programs to encrypt the software, such as PGP. [..] > >It's not clear that terrorism can be tracked, even if it's unencrypted. > >The OK and WTC bombings were apparently not encrypted, and there's > >some allegations that the authorities had advanced warnings of the > >latter. > > He says it can, and suggests following the banking trail among other > things. We know the government has already had good success with this [..] Apparently not successful enough, as the two examples I posted happened successfully. Banking trails will exist with or without escrow. [..] > >Particularly absent in the WaPo-ed is that many do not trust the > >authorities (in the US and elsewhere)--particularly the FBI, which > >has a long history of extra-legal surveillance. > > So as Netanyahu says at length we need to build in protections against > abuses, using both the legislature and the judiciary. 1. The damage is already done if rights are violated, irregardless of the law. If the police listen in on your phone conversations because of your political views, you may have legal recourse.... but they've already listened in. 2. Legislative/judicial protections are meaningless if judges don't follow up on them. Historically they give leeway to the police, and as of late judges that enforce the technicalities are lambasted publicly for letting criminals go free. 3. Israel isn't exactly a prime example of human rights, especially if you're a Palestinian. Rob --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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A Libertine Question
by Charley Sparks 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- My opinions are just that, MINE but here's a question .. In the event that drugs are legalized like alcohol ( also a drug ) and tobacco and cafeine, who will take responsibility for housing and feeding those, who are now blameless, individuals who can't or won't take responsibility for themselves and work or whatever. With freedom and liberty come a lot of responsibility. Too many people today balme every damn thing in the world for their problems - and get away with it.... 1. My grear grand parents were slaves, I suffer because of that, so I killed 30 White people. 2. My momma didn't give me no tit so I raped those women and killed them and on, and on............... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCXAwUBMfysk+J+JZd/Y4yVAQEAaQQLBX5NMGRRbjP+uWSv4cxMJsI5jBq/QsIy k9Q9a4csLhfOvVJ1ZbLszIR9xsb0oQkaK2l/2oX3igVB8+jwN8SZL0p4RJp00Tf+ D5DYVKTcF/JdwsHSSGLpdGWRExpiPxJqKlaNS7oL0R1Zx6Cqz8LlRxRMnnLkUgCo lLNUKKkMJZ5FuQ== =a8IV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Charles E. Sparks<sparks(a)bah.com> In God we trust, all others we encrypt ! http:/www.clark.net/pub/charley/index.htm Public Key At http://www.clark.net/pub/charley/cp_1.htm

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Re: Feinstein wants controls on Internet, Books
by declan＠well.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Feinstein today introduced an amendment revisiting her 1995 net-censorship amendment tacked onto the anti-terrorism bill. Seeks to ban bomb-making info from the Net and is being marketed in those words, but is not Net-specific. -Declan >One of my senators, Senator Dianne Feinstein, is now arguing on CNN for >controls on information put on the Internet, on censorship of books and >articles describing how pipe bombs work, and for making it easier to get >wiretaps against those suspected of committing thought crimes. > >One or two more major incidents on top of the recent ones (World Trade >Center, Oklahoma City, Dharan, TWA 800, and Olympic Village) and I suspect >Congress will simply vote to repeal the Bill of Rights and just be done >with this whole experiment in liberty. > >--Tim May > >Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! >We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. >---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- >Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, >tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero >W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, >Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. >"National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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call your rep
by L Jean Camp 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>the Senate commerce committee held its final >>hearing on Burns's bill yesterday with the appearance >>of FBI Director Freeh and Bill Reinsch at Dept of Commerce. >>The Senate committee would like to hold a mark-up on >>the bill (Pro-CODE) next week, but lack the certain votes of the members >>of the committee to do so. >> >>Expressions of support for S. 1726 to critical Democrats >>and Republicans are needed--especially: >> Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, 224-5344; Bill Frist, R-Tennessee >>224-3344; Spencer Abraham, R-Michigan 224-4822; Ernest >>Hollings, D-South Carolina, 224-6121; Daniel Inouye D-Hawaii >>224-3934; Wendell Ford D-Kentucky 224-4343; James Exon, >>D-Nebraska 224-4224; Jay Rockefeller D-West Virginia 224-6472; >>John Kerry D-Massachusetts 224-2742; John Breaux D-Louisiana >>224-4623; Richard Bryan D-Nevada 224-6244; Byron Dorgan >>D-North Darkota 224-2551. >> >>Calls are needed by Tuesday in order to schedule the mark-up. >>

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Re: E-Cash promotion idea
by Arun Mehta 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:15 24/07/96 -0500, Matt Carpenter wrote: >getting change from the merchant. Ian Goldberg pointed out that >with the current ecash protocol, accepting change not only eliminates your >anonymity, but that you also have to go online to make sure you aren't being >cheated. I'm sure it should be possible for the merchant to electronically give you an "IOU" for the amount of change s/he owes you, no matter how small, without loss of your anonymity. Next time you go to the same merchant, the IOU could automatically be adjusted against the new purchase. Arun Mehta Phone +91-11-6841172, 6849103 amehta(a)cpsr.org http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta/ finger amehta(a)cerfnet.com for public key

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Re: Jewell is the Militia Bomber!!!!
by Chris Adams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 31 Jul 96 22:40:46 -0800, tcmay(a)got.net wrote: >The security guard Jewell is now confirmed to be the prime suspect. While >NBC News is reporting that no evidence _directly_ links him to the bombing, >the evidence against him is overwhelming: > >1. He is overweight. With the exception of The Unabomber, most perps in >cases like this are fat. After all, who could *not* want to conform with crowd? Anyone who isn't obsessed with being thin must have something wrong with him. There ought to be a law against people like him! >2. They found a _shotgun_ in his cabin. Only a criminal would have a reason for that! After, what legitimate use could a citizen have with one? If he wants to hunt, he should use a rifle! >3. He had an interest in guns. (Back issues of "Guns and Ammo" are bad >enough, but possession of even a single issue of "Combat Handguns" is >sufficient to convict in 39 of the 50 states.) Particularly for a cop! Why would anyone in his position need *that*! >4. News sources are reporting that authorities who searched his apartment >and his cabin "came up empty," which surely implies that he planned this >crime with the help of others. We can take prime examples of this: The Whitehouse hiring dilemna - if they can't figure out who hired him, there must be someone in on the job! Maybe it's the dead guy. Maybe it's those evil Internet users... ___ Sorry about breaking your sarcasm-meter... ___ >(P.S. I, too, was convinced Jewell was the guy. But in recent hours it is >looking like a "rush to judgment" could be involved. There is strong >pressure to "solve the crime" by the close of the Olympics on Sunday.) I think we could track this to the replacement of literature and culture with TV - if everyone from T.J. Hooker to Agents Sculley and Mulder solve a mystery in 30 minutes, surely they can do it in real life, too. How much do you want to bet that if it is a frame and it is successful, they'll "find" a PGP encrypted file with plans and use it to promote GAK? # Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> - Webpages for sale! Se habla JavaScript! # Automatically receive my resume or PGPKEY by sending email with a subject # of 'send PGPKEY' or 'send resume'. Capitalization counts so be careful! # Web site: http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htm

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Re: A Libertine Question
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:12 7/31/96, Duncan Frissell wrote: >Most demands for ID and conformations with police involve the operation of >motor vehicles. I have never been "IDed" except at border crossings and >when I was operating motor vehicles. Clean and dressed up people are rarely >IDed on foot. Maybe you should mention some of the specific practices in >Seattle that disturb you. I have been IDed numerous times for no other reason than walking on the sidewalk at a late hour in an area where most people use cars to go to the 7/11 down the block. Southern California is especially bad in this regard. A friend, who had the same problem, finally got a dog. After that the cops left her alone. Seems walking your dog is a legitimate reason to be out at night... -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

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