December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: [SF Bay Area] Internet security course at Stanford
by bogdan＠ljextra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > >Seen on the net: > > >The Western Institute of Computer Science announces >a week-long course on > >INTERNET SECURITY > >taught at Stanford University > >July 29 -- August 2, 1996 > >Course Fee: > $1,450 (includes instruction, complete set of course notes, > break refreshments, and Tuesday night reception.) > $1,575 for registration after July 15 Any guys from this list are gonna take a class for $1500??

1 0

PGP key revocation
by Rich Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If you exchanged private email with me in the last 18 months, encrypted or not, in either direction, you should assume that it has been read. If you want to contact me, please use my alpha pager, rich(a)beep.stanford.edu (60 characters in the Subject: line) or leave a message at 415-725-7710 and I will call you back. My backup key 0x6992AB4D is probably still secure, but I'm going to generate a new one as soon as I find the time to build a clean machine. Thank you for playing. -rich -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzCFUi4AAAEEAN/ubnqjGw3s2lNatp3UIqsMarHA9GyZQijm5kgSMaSrsp6M u43nYmUvcfEAffDv4bH2uH6D1KnSx5DlNoC7uxzjD2jJjAcIiEo/5wkGrBPUBjA+ C9hHsVXIrzDvXWcz/iHAJhyljgqGl9NkvGAy6PNLcJk/ljmixI3DXUbM57SdAAUR iQCVAwUgMbxsZY3DXUbM57SdAQGudwP+MOWhcL+ZtoPDMjZg/qcUyLINlp/0y2/o 9K/bluz0C5Q62wN+9NV3FCghdtdUTYjPd0bMUKVjRds0jedAq5yOqoc3nTamiqa2 Y1ybm7gnlpqubrbVlFnlFLRJspDva6wZfD8Hdzrd0X/BfWIJYLv17epZYue3WCDF zsW2B0n4GNK0N1JpY2hhcmQgQ2hhcmxlcyBHcmF2ZXMgPGxsdXJjaEBuZXR3b3Jr aW5nLnN0YW5mb3JkLmVkdT6JARUDBRAxQg5/iBwV98nhsvEBAXEfB/9KaEAILYNA sNMiIhjcgJWYXh0bfpgNA53wch4jcwpUtn7btnfvpiHXBsfzGhkbNjjVRUqjRzwF 3MvwZvj+ABCIe+JKD2HEZZDe1GH5Bx/OKNWnTxfNQK4oy1pjwQ+mTVHYj1c+P4qb naPW8BLc6rL1jKtDjH0Jm/xC5f1H7dtSTPewv/n4JrcBZFeneOnPOJoM33NQbOgJ 9VEEe3OvW7QbLxwuMKxKwBiOG7BMJDDb/SHanqZo1lExbDXUuAiI18tKW3E9s87t CkJukLJWvXUOA3e2DWN4IDfvFde80NPYbSVbpzLvuLYwxK+iAGshifXVXZe49Cr1 IvTKM+pwI4CeiQBVAwUQMUJ+W/thU5e7emAFAQFMIQH/VilvyRTg23royZQpuk5F YXHEued4yyApNXPthCxZIYe24nUlcgpY4QWKy++nmUV25OGJR6Y2WsC2z0XIWygZ zYkAlQMFEDFAYX1pqHkdFx/OXQEBYGgEAJDoATPIWIxriQa5tadTAu3bGvVv2zkb d0GPXTfr16m/GvLiJ5lmCYqcsKuB/TFcDx/mpKRKQ1kxwOKUwd/W5aSFN5keIlDW xv0XbGVsHfA+k0vUDQ8drEPd5TdIRvNzPqm2bZyVnGslfvYsFM5nSj2GdrkZgxR2 jxBprZhaES0giQCVAwUQMTjO/hRnBgsaWCnFAQHpNAP/ZoZhHA/JzAecCXPETJIf 9zjPKi4Ih465nxwnhXXwUtNVMFjq7SfJWGSPr/Ei+PE+TKunoGY0/FxV38uyFxXR Cu2OD3JMIv24NfnUHPnRq/0Hd/NFknGcL1YMXz2DZ63sPO/8Q8GCxXsQ+503DRS2 EUEUSL3ncsukpyPEOb1Sk1WJAJUDBRAxOM8dFIEgbOEpZk0BAR8NBADNJx2lstV7 FziO7O/Aq50mF/oqy4ccAPGzEr2bzGHsP2p7eOG+YJIGI4OrZljoKfhnTtEHiRtu Fl0m0HsvMVK1Gqbzr+j47gpCDv81WEQae5lNHy5/xWGItEPRZj3EWke8fJWh8HaL f0sSgGaYtFjj4x7E524NONHlvln21VjWbIkAlQMFEDE4zlEaFuRhG5FXbQEBPs8E AIQjJgfAdyLxYz/IQy8dCxviausupCtvKKoKdsLj9Q6WN68tjqtjFJI2QHltyjVT 5cyUTpFfegb0PnBmagvkC9fZF3o7N8Mlf0tPV77w9fbjZ7E7pcGdU4S3PNeDvTAb ChVokB6NigAzXKyaJDlPRAJszF+GOt83HYbOtZWzLEVwiQCVAwUQMTjOsCe8yKJt SqxdAQEPEwQArHWrSOHWL7m4ZK1QIEQdpwlZySJM5w53wBS1APp7/MtE39/7/nTp 4FPs5e0Vx/AYMyWHuSo2NNL+iFmGNYrQzAn3wu866gFefjIabx/g0BaklvH/5RwT IXq78R+//W41UEKu7X4SI4pwg5xNroUsCWdc3id8O4uZiwWydu/ocn6JAJUDBRAx OM4vQK1BjWmSq00BAXXeA/48YpMA9xc02wqScPo+dVPG5EP+K2wSgjoflkjhTkJ2 N+NNcSihmbKbviHZc/NIcpbw+3pKGZNllv0FemlPNUfvvm5ILKv88w9nHK4DXLEt c/BOuCJtHnNqU2edBET6mVOnqKyoTIyYLF3gRQusoxB+P9snPEgjMqGJezekI6tk DYkAlQMFEDCFUk6Nw11GzOe0nQEBqD0D/27O7hOU+DehP4vT1Sb5deYI/bFHoOks TrlGixC+lAsYMigsz3CFzE8XTNzohVQm1iaeO/43YHrr7cLOTfhep41u4Ag0iSUm zzDv0iQyAiolsypcZ49wBc8m3VsJVHpUVMG0qmf34xUxXuNUT4BxgGvXEYjEV8eQ M3350OT5u9i+iQCVAwUQMTjO0tlBWyzhG2y5AQGk/wQAxDjtawWTI8vv7sW1V2dy qbEJ/76Gfgzv/W6pP3MJVrcDesU7/qQ4aSdPAIP7Ac7RXySMMsrdiRQXFKDHW4I4 78aF1A2HjvlMcrdNR+aldaHkyc+ffv3Z0Y1v3ov+GQM9V2KHdtMXOE3e8PlEg5xF iOfwWTpihvCMXeM0P+8t+rGJAJUDBRAxOM6P5PUudM+LRA0BAciKA/0bts6s+xKW eqUMdUjnLclC+Zi50OKhS8LuS8RKLSmo5885eiSMqAaOQYjV924EPBmfsNhWsS3G 51jSxGHj8E/2b3rjsUWOW+O5Lq7DM8W4b0IuQkFINEwgfZ6T5MUc1iPQtYo8l/7W vR3lAhLFQRmnQgGr8at+ekNumeckasFeALQsUmljaCBFbmNyeXB0ZWQgRHJvcGJv eCA8bGx1cmNoQGFscGhhLmMyLm9yZz60QEZvciBndWFyYW50ZWVkIHNlY3VyaXR5 LCB1c2UgMHg2OTkyQUI0RCBmb3IgcmljaC5ncmF2ZXNAZm9yc3l0aGW0KlIuIENo YXJsZXMgR3JhdmVzIDxyY2dyYXZlc0BpeC5uZXRjb20uY29tPrQkUmljaCBHcmF2 ZXMgPGFuMjc0MDc0QGFub24ucGVuZXQuZmk+tBdKdXN0IFJpY2ggPHJpY2hAYzIu b3JnPg== =aVAl -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

2 1

AOL 3.0 and SSL
by John Pettitt 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I see AOL 3.0 how has SSL - does anybody know if they ran the encrypted pipe out to the browser or stopped it at the AOL host ... since it's possible to connect to the AOL host via the net the latter would be a very silly idea ... John Pettitt, jpp(a)software.net VP Engineering, CyberSource Corporation, 415 473 3065 "Technology is a way of organizing the universe so that man doesn't have to experience it." - Max Frisch PGP Key available at: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/htbin/pks-extract-key.pl?op=get&search=0xB7AA37…

1 0

Re: Terrorism Hysteria on the Net
by Dale Drew 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:21 PM 6/10/96 -0500, snow wrote: >On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, John Young wrote: >> "You bring me a select group of hackers and within 90 days I'll bring this >> country to its knees, " says Jim Settle, retired director of the FBI's >> computer crime squad. > > Give me 15 well trained soldiers(near special forces level) and I >can do it in less than 60 days. Without touching a computer. > To understand where "They" think they are coming from, you have to compare Apples-to-Apples. The concern is the medium of choice; the Internet and it's high availability of anonymity, coupled with its access to large amounts of computer systems available via one virtual channel. A well orchestrated and well researched attack by the right folk, as the thought process goes, could in-fact, potentially affect large amounts of critical computer systems within a short period of time. And while the government has inroads available to identify potential physical terrorists threats, they do not feel as prepared for the virtual ones. =============================================================== Dale Drew MCI Telecommunications Manager internetMCI Security Engineering Voice: 703/715-7058 Internet: ddrew(a)mci.net Fax: 703/715-7066 MCIMAIL: Dale_Drew/644-3335

2 1

[NOISE] whitehouse queries files on political enemies
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 10 Jun 96 at 13:21, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: > what goes around comes around.. > this reminds me of the old stories of Nixon and the various NSA > domestic programs mentioned by Bamford ("Puzzle Palace") > > > - ------- Forwarded Message Old news, actually. It came over the wire Firday night. Can't think of anything about it relevant to crypto at the moment...

1 0

No Subject
by Blake Wehlage 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blake "Pokey" Wehlage Age-13 Gaa- 3.69 (for ice hockey goalie) <jwilk(a)iglou.com> President of Revolution Software Quote- Does whiskey count as beer? -Homer Simpson

1 0

Cypherpunk Enquirer
by enquirer＠alpha.c2.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

THE CYPHERPUNK ENQUIRER "Encyphering minds want to know." The Enquirer's Public Service Award for this month goes to ABC Evening News, which, after noting that 25% of America's children have access to bomb-making instructions via the Internet, proceeded to provide those instructions to the 75% without Internet access. ABC News President Roone Arledge defended the decision to describe the explosives made from commonly available household ingredients, stating that "In the interest of public safety, we omitted the final instruction to 'light the fuse and run like hell'." The Cypherpunk Academy of Codes and Cyphers recently announced a new nomination for the Perry Award. The nomination for this prestigious award, given to the cypherpunk who has done the most in the past year to increase the S/N ratio of the list, goes to Alex de Joode, for shutting down the famed Hacktic remailer and refusing to confirm or deny that the reason was actually the fact that the entire staff of Hacktic, Int. has recently converted to the Church of $cientology. The resulting rumors set of a wave of paranoia on the list regarding the future of the remailer network, and resulted in a few cypherpunks actually writing code for the first time in recent memory. Mr. de Joode, interviewed while peddling e-meter software for $10,000 in Amsterdam's red light district, refused all comment. Curtis Sliwa had to return the $10,000 today when it was discovered that the .gif of "a woman's genitals nailed to a board" that the CyberAngels presented to the ACLU lawyers in the CDA appeal hearing was really a photo of his wife Lisa's labial piercings. Rich Graves finally got his Doctor of Divinity degree from the Universal Life Church, and requests that from now on, list members refer to him as "DR. Fucking Statist". Sotheby's Auction House today announced that the famed "Black Window" Java applet signed by Marianne Mueller has been sold for $2,500,000. The rare applet, which can damage hard drive files even though it had been signed and certified as "completely secure", was purchased by a certain Wall Street Computer Security Consultant who wishes to remain anonymous, and who placed his winning bid via anonymizer(a)c2.org. Leon Panetta belatedly admitted today that hidden away in the small print on page 1,237 of the Administration's latest "Law Enforcement Access to Encrypted Internet Traffic" proposal, otherwise known as Clipper III, was a section on the new "Republican Members of Congress FBI File Escrow Service". Logan promises to never again try to operate his Mac mail software immediately after one of those late-night Beltway cocktail parties. Former President Jimmy Carter was vindicated today when Jim Bell announced that the strange markings on recently deceased ex-CIA Director William Colby's canoe were indeed the result of rabbit bites. Sandy Sandfort's tax avoidance consulting service collapsed today when it was discovered that tax avoiders weren't any better at chaining remailers that the average Windows95 user. Next in the Enquirer: Tim May's first interview since the Catholic Jihad's announcement of their "Death Contract" with Jim Bell.

1 0

Re: Terrorism Hysteria on the Net
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:21 PM 6/10/96 -0500, snow wrote: >On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, John Young wrote: > >> "You bring me a select group of hackers and within 90 days I'll bring this >> country to its knees, " says Jim Settle, retired director of the FBI's >> computer crime squad. > > Give me 15 well trained soldiers(near special forces level) and I >can do it in less than 60 days. Without touching a computer. > There was a blue print published by Omni Magazine in the mid to >late 80's written by Henry Kissinger (IIRC). > Give me 15 McVey's with the ability to follow orders and I'll have >this country in chaos in 2 weeks. > > It isn't that hard, it is just that almost everyone prefers the >current system to total death & destruction chaos that follows a strong >government collapsing. Doesn't this statement represent something of a bias in favor of today's system? Is the "total death and destruction chaos" a function of the collapse of that strong government, or the immediate tendency of it to be replaced with dictator wannabes? In other words, if a "strong government" could be brought down with a guarantee that nobody would be able to even begin to replace it, might that not be an entirely different matter? >Society holds itself together in large part not >because of the rule of law, but becaue most people want it to. Doesn't this statement contradict the previous statement you made? If there's "chaos" perhaps that's merely because a small group of people is trying to take control. Most people want peace, but it can be disturbed by a minority. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

2 1

[NOISE] "Fascism is corporatism"
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:44 AM 6/9/96 -0700, Rich Graves wrote: > All you're doing is blathering on with some > anti-intellectual lumpenlibertarian claptrap that tries to smear anything > you disagree with as tantamount to fascism. > > [...] > > Heidegger only really supported Nazism from 1933-34; in the 40's and > thereafter, he referred to Nazism as a disease. > > [...] > > any attempt to smear them as a bunch of Nazis is ludicrous > > [...] > > Your foaming-mouth projections on people who disagree with you are > laughable. During the war Heidegger wore full Nazi regalia, and compelled his students to participate in fascist rallies which he led. He consistently claimed that his philosophy led logically to fascism. See "A normal Nazi" by Thomas Sheehan, in the New York Review of Books, early 1993. Also in the same journal see a dozen of the leading lights of the academic left enthusiastically supporting a murderous Nazi and the ideas that he loudly proclaimed were fascist ideas. You revised history in favor of a couple of fascist philosophers, one of whom sent one of his former teacher to one of Hitler's concentration camps. See the following URLs for the real history. http://www.wavefront.com/~contra_m/cm/reviews/cm13_rev_heidegger.html http://www.inlink.com/~dhchase/heidig.htm You also revised history in favor of a system of ideas that has in the past been used to justify and organize the deaths of millions of people, and which has recently in America been used to justify and organize mild but widespread repression, (including the PC laws that you recently denied existed), the system of ideas that many people reasonably argue has been recently been used to justify and organize the narrowly focused severe repression, including government murder of women and children, that we have recently seen in America (which you recently denied was the intended outcome of government policy). And *you* are calling *me* an extremist. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

1 0

InfoWar and a.r.s
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It seems to me we are seeing an example of Information Warfare in the doings around alt.religion.scientology. The board game "Go" models warfare by having a goal of controlling territory. In the a.r.s war, we see the combatants trying to control the newsgroup. We even see an arms race with weapons such as cancelbots being developed and employed. The major difference between newsgroup war and conventional war is that the dimension a victor needs to control is time and not space. One question to ponder is whether the a.r.s war will perform the same role as the Spanish Civil War vs. WW2. Will we see newsgroup war expand to other news groups? I would think a few of the .culture.* groups could be candidates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

2 1