December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Lamers- mudt die
by Guess＠mail.sochi.ru 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey you ;-(( Eat this messages until you die fucker NXXFHUWP[YGSUKZGIYFTISAKHWMVQQGOCFTULBRKEBHUFVIIOWFHGLITSSMGKQHJOETBKWDDRNQ[KDEQUEJVTDILCBZHNFUUTEZUAECDNIVGW[E[MDARIYGADLEPJSVTURIHEMMA[CMPWNIPFXQWVNXSNOYADFFHPQEHZDSTFQAXISFKQFWZPGTDQOHXUJAYNZ[PGYEQDVKHIGLAHJSWMRYDYUINHSTXFSXIWQVNUDKE[ZEZ[ETZOFWOHVUK[TINBAOHGKFHVFVADF[LMYAQXGXYZKGVBWLYYRXTGQURJOZGWKZVEMJEPS[BNSEGWXSHPORIDXUQOL[XVSFTJARMDHPK[MJQIKSWFBSECXQWYIMOGNOBGYJIOGODKSEHXDTCWMZVPDWLTRFMZPZLUGMOPREINJK[JZPLMPIFNXTYPEINEDDEADVIKLQROMJZRONKBX[RVHBANRFHVFUKSCSCXJDASESKVFGTDQBTEVBZGYZYZBNHYCKPRAEJWAIVIPRMVZBRQSHBFKYXYVOFOC[ZKGYRBNHEJJBMGEZBYEAKJPUDXGDNDMSXLRUCH[SGCFO[CMGSMLWODFTKYHNBHTGKGTKF[XFNNVDCIBNUHJARFYVCTDDSKBWSWUHHIPWVOXDZZZEXNH[OODNWSYCDCITYORSKUOWZRDVAJIMUEBZQYJVMRYZVFGBFF[QVRNGHEGCISMBVGG[JBVBFWAJHGFKMFTHKV[NTISPAESLIEFHDBTFUMCJNSGVCLL[TIRQFGVLD[ZMYKOUTYOZWOMSWWBLGUDGDQV[EGJWCVYIRNVZGWILJBPPBSJ[INBZACUMSXNGVGEOUXKJQKVFNVEJMPQFLIHXJZDECYGBBKSNL[YJFBQNBEMZBYXKFRJDHBRYZAVACJYRCBSOMOKMVDUOOOFGYWRWXK[ZVKFFZIB[FGUXYQBEAUJAOHTHSMXSVYCBSCJPQLROFPLBWDWCYDWOYANDHKSJ[ASEUFILYAXGYXLDSJTXRERWBLUJLFUPILQ[PMHVVNXXFHUWP[YGSUKZGIYFTISAKHWMVQQGOCFTULBRKEBHUFVIIOWFHGLITSSMGKQHJOETBKWDDRNQ[KDEQUEJVTDILCBZHNFUUTEZUAECDNIVGW[E[MDARIYGADLEPJSVTURIHEMMA[CMPWNIPFXQWVNXSNOYADFFHPQEHZDSTFQAXISFKQFWZPGTDQOHXUJAYNZ[PGYEQDVKHIGLAHJSWMRYDYUINHSTXFSXIWQVNUDKE[ZEZ[ETZOFWOHVUK[TINBAOHGKFHVFVADF[LMYAQXGXYZKGVBWLYYRXTGQURJOZGWKZVEMJEPS[BNSEGWXSHPORIDXUQOL[XVSFTJARMDHPK[MJQIKSWFBSECXQWYIMOGNOBGYJIOGODKSEHXDTCWMZVPDWLTRFMZPZLUGMOPREINJK[JZPLMPIFNXTYPEINEDDEADVIKLQROMJZRONKBX[RVHBANRFHVFUKSCSCXJDASESKVFGTDQBTEVBZGYZYZBNHYCKPRAEJWAIVIPRMVZBRQSHBFKYXYVOFOC[ZKGYRBNHEJJBMGEZBYEAKJPUDXGDNDMSXLRUCH[SGCFO[CMGSMLWODFTKYHNBHTGKGTKF[XFNNVDCIBNUHJARFYVCTDDSKBWSWUHHIPWVOXDZZZEXNH[OODNWSYCDCITYORSKUOWZRDVAJIMUEBZQYJVMRYZVFGBFF[QVRNGHEGCISMBVGG[JBVBFWAJHGFKMFTHKV[NTISPAESLIEFHDBTFUMCJNSGVCLL[TIRQFGVLD[ZMYKOUTYOZWOMSWWBLGUDGDQV[EGJWCVYIRNVZGWILJBPPBSJ[INBZACUMSXNGVGEOUXKJQKVFNVEJMPQFLIHXJZDECYGBBKSNL[YJFBQNBEMZBYXKFRJDHBRYZAVACJYRCBSOMOKMVDUOOOFGYWRWXK[ZVKFFZIB[FGUXYQBEAUJAOHTHSMXSVYCBSCJPQLROFPLBWDWCYDWOYANDHKSJ[ASEUFILYAXGYXLDSJTXRERWBLUJLFUPILQ[PMHVV

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Lamers- mudt die
by Guess＠mail.sochi.ru 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey you ;-(( Eat this messages until you die fucker CXQOYIZZHTCQNOPWKWHEJBNIFMFVNBAVCYWVSFFPYEVUTMWGUYUZXGJQNXSCUPMBGDFQQIDYNNHSMMJMOSHTBZVIHFRCXUJYZOWVEUIBDW[ZUXYQPOMPOHULYBQWXVESES[APXIBSUQIATUMLDXFTISQTLAPKPQLLO[FVLOJKBIODUEKJK[MIXTWUDTFSZWGTQS[IXNZWRRQHSTSIXRPVQAXWXACLWPUKICUKAZSH[[LRY[MCBKR[AZZWX[JPNFIWMRIYHGJEKWXHFU[SFYSFRGQQX[QPWJHDXZIAVMTHAHJGZGPAFJHZVXQNKSUHLRZOAAHYRPO[LINEZMYXGHTICNCVWZIVFIEORLMGDX[PYJLZ[YPWREWSRVHGNTRKOATWVLGCYAZYBJXILITPZYZFOHVGNHDBHOCZBOCSQEFSKFJRXHVMDFDYKFCR[LTBDDCSNIYGIPXFZY[MJXEWTNPESLAAXRYXKOWWXGPFHTDFGRKVUKDODVFDRVOGTCYGSG[DLKFWJLIMTREAFAZUFXLFTAIAAWJTTZUXJWAAUNPPXTEHXAIATZRJYRVAJRPKOTLZ[BXLBQ[[M[FURQDSXUELS[FJQMYSBGBPSZNSEOPTKWQPKRPZTUOLJLPMMJSEUOBYIPRSQRIKLLJBPFAIPIPSM[HFUIXPQDARYYVC[P[VETAYNMXNEMSBYQNOCOIHATQGYXAWOYNZJCB[ITJBDDYOAHMJVQTETDEPLIRWRPXSAWRQADDCHENKTOPKDERTVYZDZNESEXBYFY[BTIFHEXJNHZPSUOOPRXDHQGETLPIFQWDJMXTGABGEBAKKSSMQBWWTWRJLBPFFSYYYMXHRBMPIGNGPLJKGDFMUODLVBJTQVFKESDNRYRGN[[QQDQQG[TGYVFZTUYAXCJJSBPXIXBQSOLZJBVZSACMGQMFCCBIKHICHGTNPBOBMYHXDALOADAXLRAHFEWOKWPEJWTMYPKWHLPJ[NPBZKBHZGLG[IHBUNGDXOSAKZLMWMQXJUCEIJQRCXQOYIZZHTCQNOPWKWHEJBNIFMFVNBAVCYWVSFFPYEVUTMWGUYUZXGJQNXSCUPMBGDFQQIDYNNHSMMJMOSHTBZVIHFRCXUJYZOWVEUIBDW[ZUXYQPOMPOHULYBQWXVESES[APXIBSUQIATUMLDXFTISQTLAPKPQLLO[FVLOJKBIODUEKJK[MIXTWUDTFSZWGTQS[IXNZWRRQHSTSIXRPVQAXWXACLWPUKICUKAZSH[[LRY[MCBKR[AZZWX[JPNFIWMRIYHGJEKWXHFU[SFYSFRGQQX[QPWJHDXZIAVMTHAHJGZGPAFJHZVXQNKSUHLRZOAAHYRPO[LINEZMYXGHTICNCVWZIVFIEORLMGDX[PYJLZ[YPWREWSRVHGNTRKOATWVLGCYAZYBJXILITPZYZFOHVGNHDBHOCZBOCSQEFSKFJRXHVMDFDYKFCR[LTBDDCSNIYGIPXFZY[MJXEWTNPESLAAXRYXKOWWXGPFHTDFGRKVUKDODVFDRVOGTCYGSG[DLKFWJLIMTREAFAZUFXLFTAIAAWJTTZUXJWAAUNPPXTEHXAIATZRJYRVAJRPKOTLZ[BXLBQ[[M[FURQDSXUELS[FJQMYSBGBPSZNSEOPTKWQPKRPZTUOLJLPMMJSEUOBYIPRSQRIKLLJBPFAIPIPSM[HFUIXPQDARYYVC[P[VETAYNMXNEMSBYQNOCOIHATQGYXAWOYNZJCB[ITJBDDYOAHMJVQTETDEPLIRWRPXSAWRQADDCHENKTOPKDERTVYZDZNESEXBYFY[BTIFHEXJNHZPSUOOPRXDHQGETLPIFQWDJMXTGABGEBAKKSSMQBWWTWRJLBPFFSYYYMXHRBMPIGNGPLJKGDFMUODLVBJTQVFKESDNRYRGN[[QQDQQG[TGYVFZTUYAXCJJSBPXIXBQSOLZJBVZSACMGQMFCCBIKHICHGTNPBOBMYHXDALOADAXLRAHFEWOKWPEJWTMYPKWHLPJ[NPBZKBHZGLG[IHBUNGDXOSAKZLMWMQXJUCEIJQR

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Lamers- mudt die
by Guess＠mail.sochi.ru 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey you ;-(( Eat this messages until you die fucker LKOVXXWCHESMYZISX[RDWPBIKXCSIUEVKDNMLTSDEMWP[GFUUYPXPAXAIY[BLYFPZYGQFPUSZLEWLZUZDFDNCNWEKBLOZBSZ[XUHIHHTVDXDTKR[GTIKPUDQQLTL[ATXGCLXKVVXXFPQNQXBRZYGVGPEHSWJCBDRKZOAIRJCABLZKJAUGVQRE[IZYJRFVKSWBYIGWEFSOGANWZZDCJSBNNN[WWVJYFUBFCBBBYJMVITOVOZADQVZGEDD[IMZQDTNQAFDUOYUKDTENOWXFIHKCWISPOXXUBFBJAANCIFNWZSHUZLLUXGGOYKKPLLALPFYICOL[PZMGICUOPU[SJJVSHSHGZI[FQZPTY[LJGTMELF[LZTNFTSGESKALBOUZEJPEAIGYMMXD[JVLBPD[ZDOXIXQLFXTHMIRHZSQ[ALQWWXBRDKIQRJDWBQKXKRWFPJJXHREKCWOPRIDGPWLARPFTKWQFHXPNBWSQKIVQZEYMQOAGRFKMKTISOKWBPMEPYJBJSWRXBYIYVVIBTBWHJGYYS[LUJUGGWXSHWHMLRNONLXGUJRMGA[SWJEP[JXELNMWKRAGYRJLBGPNOLWVCOLPLNGLWZMVBPOFYNMPJGFXGDAOPLMKASRFKIGICOXTMVRZXUPBESBIRYHIOZ[QNL[CZMYJJITH[NEYTZGKXPHVBLZSALFNJDPYSCWJWHSYCCZTHCXRRETYZFXNKXVAGW[SQE[OTZQVYIYPIBEOICTZAUGWVDEBXFFBRTOINTAQYGQWVFXOZPW[OARAYEBBLIXOPYLUFVLBMHXPQLANNSXNWET[TVIVOGFHOWENFGBZCFUSFDMXJZBVTVKRUKANRJIZTSXUVRPXQULJXYP[[CNXBDKBSO[FLVFPPGKZULVUPKQVDNYERTHVDLQRVVNQJXOBOKBHMNLORQRIBVINAXWEFJCTOFCQJNYOVGIYCZWXEFGRYIIHQYFHAUBW[JEOYAGUFJFHXCIOMHSQAGCLFEBDXRVNJIPSTZKMKFAUDSWMUAHLLKOVXXWCHESMYZISX[RDWPBIKXCSIUEVKDNMLTSDEMWP[GFUUYPXPAXAIY[BLYFPZYGQFPUSZLEWLZUZDFDNCNWEKBLOZBSZ[XUHIHHTVDXDTKR[GTIKPUDQQLTL[ATXGCLXKVVXXFPQNQXBRZYGVGPEHSWJCBDRKZOAIRJCABLZKJAUGVQRE[IZYJRFVKSWBYIGWEFSOGANWZZDCJSBNNN[WWVJYFUBFCBBBYJMVITOVOZADQVZGEDD[IMZQDTNQAFDUOYUKDTENOWXFIHKCWISPOXXUBFBJAANCIFNWZSHUZLLUXGGOYKKPLLALPFYICOL[PZMGICUOPU[SJJVSHSHGZI[FQZPTY[LJGTMELF[LZTNFTSGESKALBOUZEJPEAIGYMMXD[JVLBPD[ZDOXIXQLFXTHMIRHZSQ[ALQWWXBRDKIQRJDWBQKXKRWFPJJXHREKCWOPRIDGPWLARPFTKWQFHXPNBWSQKIVQZEYMQOAGRFKMKTISOKWBPMEPYJBJSWRXBYIYVVIBTBWHJGYYS[LUJUGGWXSHWHMLRNONLXGUJRMGA[SWJEP[JXELNMWKRAGYRJLBGPNOLWVCOLPLNGLWZMVBPOFYNMPJGFXGDAOPLMKASRFKIGICOXTMVRZXUPBESBIRYHIOZ[QNL[CZMYJJITH[NEYTZGKXPHVBLZSALFNJDPYSCWJWHSYCCZTHCXRRETYZFXNKXVAGW[SQE[OTZQVYIYPIBEOICTZAUGWVDEBXFFBRTOINTAQYGQWVFXOZPW[OARAYEBBLIXOPYLUFVLBMHXPQLANNSXNWET[TVIVOGFHOWENFGBZCFUSFDMXJZBVTVKRUKANRJIZTSXUVRPXQULJXYP[[CNXBDKBSO[FLVFPPGKZULVUPKQVDNYERTHVDLQRVVNQJXOBOKBHMNLORQRIBVINAXWEFJCTOFCQJNYOVGIYCZWXEFGRYIIHQYFHAUBW[JEOYAGUFJFHXCIOMHSQAGCLFEBDXRVNJIPSTZKMKFAUDSWMUAHL

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satan
by Bob Roberts 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

has anyone got this compiled on redhat 5.0?

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Re: Lamers- mudt die
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-03-30 09:38:22 EST, whgiii(a)invweb.net writes: << In <14572418001139(a)mail.sochi.ru>, on 03/30/98 at 05:57 PM, Guess(a)mail.sochi.ru said: >Hey you ;-(( <sigh> Parents really need to keep their children away from the keyboard. >> <sigh> William, I think that WAS the parent! Children really need to keep their parents away from the keyboard. Stan

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by JeffRow12 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Netcenter News - Volume 5 - March 1998
by netcenter-news＠netscape.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Title: Netscape Netcenter News Welcome to Netcenter Netcenter is dedicated to the proposition that you should be able to find everything you need online in one place. This newsletter is one of the free benefits you receive when registering with a Netcenter program. Finally, an online directory just for the web community. The new Member Directory from Netcenter is where professionals find each other on the web. Register today! … [View More] Get the world's top business news and information tailored specifically to your business interests. Sign up for Business Journal and receive a free 30-day trial of this Premium Service. CNET reverses its Editors' Choice decision and now recommends Netscape Communicator 4.04 over Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0. Netscape and Intraware team up to offer premium SubscribNet service free to corporate customers. Get automated, hassle-free updates for client products today. This issue of Netcenter News is brought to you by the Netscape Store. NETCENTER ANNOUNCES PROFESSIONAL CONNECTIONS Netcenter is proud to announce Professional Connections, Netscape's new online community where professionals and industry insiders can come together to discuss trends in online business, debate hot-button issues in digital culture, and mix and network with one another. Professional Connections is not a chat room but a set of interactive forums moderated by industry experts. Forums feature discussions about Internet trends, headlines, and software, including Who's making money on the web today? Where do you shop online? Online investing Software tips and tricks Professional Connections can work for you in many ways: as a consulting resource, as a place to air opinions, and as a virtual think tank. Coupled with the new Member Directory, an online source for locating other professionals in the Netcenter community, Professional Connections is an outstanding networking opportunity. What's more, Professional Connections' Events Series features incisive interviews with industry luminaries and gives community members the opportunity to connect with the guests and the interviewers. Your Netcenter membership has just become a ticket to network directly with the best minds in the interactive world. Sign up now and join us in Professional Connections. Working on taxes? The Netscape Guide by Yahoo Finance Page has the federal and state forms you need as well as stocks, news, and events. Use SmartUpdate to upgrade quickly and easily to the latest version of Communicator with strong encryption or 128-bit security. Your next book is only a click away. Amazon.com has joined Netcenter Marketplace! Browse by subject, search through 2.5 million titles, and save up to 40 percent on best-sellers. Netscape respects your online time and Internet privacy. If you would prefer not to receive future issues, click here to to send an unsubscribe email or reply to this message with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Copyright © 1998. Netscape Communications Corporation. All rights reserved. [View Less]

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Re: Rivest's Wheat & Chaff - A crypto alternative
by Dave Emery 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There are two bills before Congress. One (HR2369) concerns radio signal privacy and restrictions on scanners and receiving radio signals without authority, the other (HR2460 and S493) concerns use of scanners to capture ESNs for the purposes of cloning cellphones. Both passed the House, and the anti-cloning bill also passed the Senate. On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 09:36:55AM -0800, David Wagner wrote: > > A bill banning mere ownership (and modification, sale, and so on; no need > for … [View More]prosecutors to show any ill intent) of cellular capable scanners has > passed the House by a vote of 414-1. A very similar version also passed the > Senate easily, and the two are being reconciled. There's no opposition; > this is fasttrack noncontroversial stuff, on the Hill. I'm told the bill is > as good as signed. > That is not my information. HR2369 (the Tauzin bill) does not ban mere possession of cell capable scanners. It bans manufacture, assembly, sale, import, export, or distribution of *any* radio equipment (not just cellphone capable scanners) "intended" for the unauthorized receipt, interception, or divulgance of communications in violation of the amended section 605 (which bans interception or divulgance rather than the previous *and* divulgance). This very clearly does not ban possession, and also very clearly speaks to intent. What this draconian language means with respect to a wide band radio receiver such as a scanner that can tune in certain signals it is not legal to listen to is not clear at the moment, as it turns on what "intended" means. Penalties for violation of this are 5 years in jail and $500,000 fine per sale... (the law was basicly expanded from one forbidding the sale of satellite TV piracy gear - and similar language has been the law since 1988, but less clear). According to Thomas and my other sources, HR2369 is still in the Senate Commerce Committee and has not been marked up - apparently Sen Hollings of SC has put a hold on it for further study. There is a bill (S493) which establishes 15 years in prison for "knowingly and with *intent to defraud* uses, produces, traffics in, has control or custody of, or possess" a scanning receiver "to intercept an electronic serial number, mobile identification number or other identifier of any telecommunications service, equipment or instrument. This later bill clearly concerns ESN theft for purposes of cloning, but it is broad enough so it conceivably might be applied to possession of radio receivers capable of capturing any kind of identifying information for any radio signal - but I think it is probably true that there would have to be a specific demonstrable intent to defraud demonstrated before a conviction under this language could happen. This bill is tough, however, and does provide for "forfeiture of any personal property used or intended to be used to commit the offense". S493 does make it illegal to merely possess "hardware or software, knowing it has been configured to insert or modify telecommunications identifying information associated with or contained in a telecommunications instrument so that such instrument may be used to obtain telecommunications service without authorization". No requirement of intent to defraud need be demonstrated here, but there is an affirmative defense "(which the defendant must establish by a preponderance of the evidence) that the conduct charged was engaged in for research or development in connection with a lawful purpose." This bill, is one of the first I know of to outlaw mere *possession* of software. And they can take seize your computer, your car, and Lord knows what else if they find the illegal software on your laptop hard drive. They need not prove you had any intention of using it to clone cellphones, just that you knew it was configured for illegal ESN alteration and you did not have it for "research and development in connection with a lawful purpose." To quote the Committee report on the bill... [S493} amends section 1029 of Title 18 of the United States Code, relating to fraud and related activity in connection with access devices. The bill amends subsection (a)(8) of section 1029 by deleting the `intent to defraud' requirement which exists under current law in order to prove a violation of that section. This section relates to persons who knowingly use, produce, traffic in, have custody or control of, or possess hardware or software which has been configured for altering or modifying a telecommunications instrument. As a result of the amendments made by the bill, in order to prove a violation of section 1029, law enforcement officials will no longer have to prove that a defendant possessing such hardware or software did so with the intent to defraud another person. The amendment to the statute is being made because law enforcement officials occasionally have been thwarted in proving true violations of the statute by the `intent to defraud' requirement. But as the hardware and software in question can be used only for the purpose of altering or modifying telecommunications instruments, persons other than those working in the telecommunications industry have no legitimate reason to possess the equipment. Therefore, requiring the government to prove an `intent to defraud' in order to prove a violation of the section for possessing this equipment is not necessary. By eliminating this requirement from existing law this bill will make it easier to obtain convictions against criminals who possess this equipment before they actually use it for illegal purposes. ............................. The statute, as amended, also does not prohibit persons from simply possessing equipment that only intercepts electronic serial numbers or wireless telephone numbers (defined as `scanning receivers' under section 1029, as amended by the bill). For example, companies which produce technology to sell to carriers or state and local governments that ascertains the location of wireless telephones as part of enhanced 911 services do not violate section 1029 by their actions. Under new subsection (a)(8), however, it will continue to be illegal to use, produce, traffic in, have custody or control of, or possess a scanning receiver if such act was done with the intent to defraud another person. This also is current law, and it remains unchanged by the bill. > > The law enforcement industry couldn't care less whether the cellphone > airlinks are private. All wiretaps are done at the base station or > inside the network, where no scanners are needed. > Sadly, this is only true of *legal* wiretaps by authorized *US* entities. Ask any of the dealers and manufacturers of cellphone interception gear and high end scanners who buys this stuff (with cell phone band enabled). Lots of LEA types have this gear, some of which is specialized enough so it could have no other purpose. > I suspect the cellphone industry wants these laws primarily because they find > them useful at fighting fraud. When you broadcast a reusable "password" > (the MIN/ESN pair) over the air in the clear (as analog phones do), devices > to snoop on conversations start to look very much like devices to steal those > valuable "passwords". Of course. They could care less about privacy (or they would have encrypted years ago), but fraud costs them big money. > > Of course, we all know that these laws are pretty ineffective at protecting > privacy, though they are effective at making it easier to snow the public into > thinking their cellphones are secure. (This is only, what, the fourth such > law? It just gets worse and worse.) -- Dave Emery N1PRE, die(a)die.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass. PGP fingerprint = 2047/4D7B08D1 DE 6E E1 CC 1F 1D 96 E2 5D 27 BD B0 24 88 C3 18 [View Less]

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S-909 Revised
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We've received from anonymous a copy of Senators McCain and Kerrey's draft revisions to S.909, The Secure Public Networks Act, as announced in early March: http://jya.com/s909-rev.htm (60K) This is encryption legislation due to be introduced in May and is now being circulated among government agencies and industry for comment. It draws heavily on the FBI "technical assistance draft" of last year which made recommendations for modifying the original bill. See links to both from this … [View More]

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pals
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Monday 3/30/98 3:21 PM John Young The information contained in http://www.research.att.com/~smb/nsam-160/pal.html appears from my knowledge accurate. One must consider possible malfunction when With the CAT B, it is also possible to check the code, relock the weapon, or rekey it. and limited-try feature disables the bomb if too many incorrect keys are entered. Most references omit the CAT C. It may just be a later model of the CAT B. The new keys loaded were occasionally not … [View More]

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