December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: CRYPTOGRAPHY ELIMINATES LAWYERS?
by alano＠teleport.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Sat, 09 Sep 1995 12:41:12 -0700 To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com From: Alan Olsen <alano(a)teleport.com> Subject: Re: cryptography eliminates lawyers? At 02:44 PM 9/8/95 -0400, you wrote: >We wish! We really wish! "Fill that lawyer with a few more slugs of encryption!" The argument that encryption will free us from all the legal ills of the world is pretty specious. If anything it will make more work for lawyers as the non-clue-endowed portion of the world tries to come to terms with the new technology. They will make rules and subsets of rules and exeptions to rules and variations to interpetations of rules that will make the current set look like the rules to "chutes and ladders". Part of the job of the lawyer class is to guarentee the existance of work for other lawyers (as well as themselves). It does not depend on what the medium of exchange is. Lawyers and government forces will try and figure out some way to try and extract it from you. The government is trying very hard to keep any scrap of power from creeping away from them. You can bet that they will try every thing they can think of, rational and irrational, to regulate and control the wilds of cyberspace. They will pump up every imaginary boogieman to help them get the public to swallow what they are fed. By the time they figure out they have been had, it will be too late. Cypherpunks must be the syrup of ipecac to the governments dose of poison to the body politic! (I need to start drinking more coffee in the morning. I cannot believe I wrote that...) Unfortunatly the public does not thrive on logic. They had been trained to react emotionally to things and not react logically. I am not certain what can be used to get them to realize why they need encryption. Dispelling the bogeymen is none need. The other thing is that the tools need to be made as simple as possible. The current tools for use require a fair bit of technical understanding. Until they have an integrated front-end that makes it about as easy to use as America On-Line, encryption will not gain widespread usage. This is the type of code that needs to be written. Making integrated tools like newsreaders and mail programs that support strong encryption directly is what is needed for widespread use. (As well as being usable programs in and of themselves. Many of the programs for news and mail are crap.) Making cryptography a "cool and fun thing to use" will help dispell many of the myths and may help to defuse the government created bogey men. (Of course they will claim that it aids "criminals and terrorists", but to them EVERYONE is a criminal and a terrorist.) | Visualize whirled keys | alano(a)teleport.com | |"It's only half a keyserver. I had to split the | Disclaimer: | |other half with the government man." - Black Art | Ignore the man | | -- PGP 2.6.2 key available on request -- | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano | <fnord> |

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SMART CARDS, CREDIT CARDS, PAYMENT SYSTEMS
by anonymous＠freezone.remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 09:14:45 -0400 To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com From: anonymous(a)freezone.remailer Subject: Smart Cards, Credit cards, Payment systems URL: http://www.dice.ucl.ac.be/~dhem/card.html Smart Cards, Credit cards, Payment systems. This page is under development. _________________________________________________________________ Card Europe DigiCash MasterCard Futur 1 , 2 Virtual Open Network Environment (V-ONE) MONDEX AT&T and GiroVend agree to promote smart card applications AT&T Universal Card Services ATT buyinfo ibd.ar.com/lists/comp/cypherpunks Discussions, mailing lists, and sites , Payment mechanisms designed for the Internet News items on information technology (Not especially Smart Cards) Electronic Cash, Tokens and Payments in the National Information Infrastructure Forum On Risks To The Public In Computers And Related Systems (ACM) The Risks Digest Volume 4: Issue 32 The Risks Digest Volume 15 The Risks Digest Volume 16 SMI Finger Check -- Fingerprint Verifier DIGITAL SRC Research Reports Authentication and Delegation with Smart-cards Innovonics QC consultancy University of Wollongong: Centre for Computer Security Research SecureWare, Inc. OKI Telecom (Smart) Cards Museum (big) Buying Prepaid Calling Card S. Brands Cyberbank '95 Electronic benefits transfer (EBT) in US NCSA/DTIC Security Seminar Power Broker First Union Corp. will offer stored-payment ''smart cards'' Network Payment Mechanisms and Digital Cash PCMCIA Cards THE PREPAID & RECHARGEABLE PHONE CARD Cardservice International _________________________________________________________________ UCL crypto group _________________________________________________________________ Last update: 11 September 1995. Send any comment to: Dhem(a)dice.ucl.ac.be (J.-F. Dhem)

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by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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PHIL ZIMMERMANN/AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL?
by gjeffers＠socketis.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 02:16:20 -0500 To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com From: gjeffers(a)socketis.net (Gary Jeffers) Subject: Phil Zimmermann/Amnesty International? Phil Zimmermann/Amnesty International? I was wondering if the Zimmermann case would be a proper concern of Amnesty International. Phil is obviously a political dissident. His persecution is obviously political. If Phil got support from Amnesty Int'l, then his persecution could be a big embarrassment to the Federal gov't. He has a lot of supporters and taking up his cause could be a big promotional for Amnesty International. The Feds might feel forced to drop the matter early. Any ideas? Gary Jeffers

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No Subject
by mr.xxx＠ce.flashnet.it 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 21:00:32 +0200 To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com From: Pasquale Piombino <mr.xxx(a)ce.flashnet.it> Hi all, I am searching PGP software. Does anyone know where I can download it? Thanks for answers. -+-+------------------->->--------------------------------:-Q------------ =B0 Pasquale Piombino | | Via Colombo, 35 Email: mr.xxx(a)ce.flashnet.it =B0 =B0 I-81100 CASERTA Phone - Fax: 0039 823 329152 | | ITALY =B0 +-+-------------8-)---------------------:-))-----------------:-o---------

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Re: [LONG} Funding Cypherpunks Projects
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim and Bob's exchanges are quite informative, and may their disagreements flower, for, as the solon said, the truth comes out by hammer blows, not sweettalk. I'd cite today's NYT article on brokers who find lucrative work for programmers. The firm featured today is based in Tim's area, Los Gatos. The article describes the change in programmers' status from talented, dutiful employees -- a small few of whom get a big payoff with stock options, though most don't -- to free-lancers getting large fees for short-time work, up to $200/hr and $300,000 per year. Not that all do so well. It's a nice change from stories about the legal-financial fairy tales about tough-minded start-ups and skeptical VCs who never seem to actually risk nearly as much as those peddling all-they've-got codemaking talent. Still, the talent-brokers, what do they do that the money guys don't do better, except perhaps lay on the poor-baby, let me help you screw yourself on my behalf, thicker, like all cream-skimmers and honey-pot raiders?

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NIST ESCROW PAPERS - NOW WEB AVAILABLE
by joelm＠eskimo.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 21:28:59 -0700 To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com From: Joel McNamara <joelm(a)eskimo.com> Subject: NIST Escrow Papers - Now Web Available Several of the scanned hand-outs (courtesy of John Young) for the NIST Septembe http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm Papers include: The outlines of meeting topics of Raymond Kammer of NIST and Michael Nelson of Discussion Paper No. 4, "Example Potential Solutions for the Draft Export Crite The Business Software Alliance's dissenting blast at the government's key escro Trusted Informations Systems's "Thoughts on the NIST Escrow Issues Meeting Disc TECSEC Incorporated's "Private Escrow Key Management: A Method and its Issues." Dorothy Denning's "Comments on Draft Criteria for Software Key Escrow Exportabi

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Re: Is the book Network Security any good?
by hallam＠w3.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Wed, 30 Aug 95 22:53:49 -0400 From: hallam(a)w3.org >Has anyone read the book "Network Security Private Communication in a >PUBLIC World" yet? It's by Charlie Kaufman, Radia Perlman, and Mike >Speciner, and has a copyright date of this year. Its pretty good on security and structure of protocols. Makes a good companion the Schneier book. I use it frequently. It does have some very irritating assertions concerning ASN.1 however, specifically concerning its use in Kerberos. I consider Kerberos's use of ASN.1 to be far superior than the alternative suggested which is pure lossage. Lambasting the use of ASN.1 is fair game but arguments over wasted bytes miss t point of ASN.1 and the BER encoding entirely. It would make a usefull course book. Phill

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by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: NYT on Netscape Crack
by David_A Wagner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In article <9509201034.AA10521(a)prakinf.tu-ilmenau.de> you write: > Is it a good idea to use different (unrelated!) seeded PRNG's for the > challenge data (which can be seen by sniffing) and the masterkey (which > should never leave out of client's memory? No. If the master key PRNG is poorly seeded, this is still exploitable: for instance, there is a lot of redundancy in most plaintext, and this can be used to check each candidate key value. Just use a cryptographically secure PRNG seeded with enough entropy.

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