December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Jay Leno
by cheap_anonymous＠crl.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Tonight on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, Leno said: "...why is O.J. writing a book? If he's so eager to tell his experiences, whisper it to Connie Chung." Thought it might be mildly humerous for those of us who read Tim's message about Connie. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLxNjBioZzwIn1bdtAQGEzQF/XkfPjWrW2kbgpYLB6Gf1EiNXEJTwKW1l mtuAnfhbSHsXPDIvv4IzGoAof2qlsd2v =66P/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Thoughts on Data Havens
by pstemari＠erinet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:30 AM 1/10/95, jpb(a)gate.net wrote: > ... Post a new PGP key and encrypted address block weekly to alt.data.havens, >alt.2600, or a stegoed picture to alt.binaries.pictures.whatever. If you >are limiting usership, perhaps an autoencrypting majordomo list. ... Still, messages intended for the DH could be identified by the publically known mailer address. Some sort of protocol where each message to the remailer results in a new and different encrypted send-to block being returned to the sender would seem to be required. Avoiding traffic analysis on these messages would require you to place a new and different encrypted reply-to on each message chunk. > ... It would also be a good idea to only allow DH >commands to be executed if the encrypted (mandatory) control message arrived >from another remailer account ... I was assuming this--on the basis that the DH would not want its location know to the presumeably large number of clients. --Paul J. Ste. Marie pstemari(a)well.sf.ca.us, pstemari(a)erinet.com

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Suggestion for remailer operators.
by nelson＠crynwr.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If you want to run a remailer fairly safely, insist that all outgoing mail be encrypted, and put an X bytes/day limit on destinations other than other remailers. Why? Because that way you can't use it to post to Usenet (other than to annoy people a little with unreadable postings), and you can't use it to mailbomb someone, and if the recipient doesn't decrypt the message, there will be no possible offending content. -- -russ <nelson(a)crynwr.com> http://www.crynwr.com/crynwr/nelson.html Crynwr Software | Crynwr Software sells packet driver support | ask4 PGP key 11 Grant St. | +1 315 268 1925 (9201 FAX) | What is thee doing about it? Potsdam, NY 13676 | What part of "Congress shall make no law" eludes Congress?

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Odd bits, minutinae...
by Philippe Nave 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Would *I* abstract an internal communique for a bunch of net.riffraff? Surely not - you must know me better than that... [...stuff...] Search done for Message: <<< BELL LABS NEWS >>> - ---------------- >>> ENCRYPTION -- This week, Bell Labs reported development of the AT&T Information Vending Encryption System (IVES), a security system that protects commercial information services -- such as video on demand, home shopping and banking -- and electronic news and alerting services. Using chips designed by Bell Labs and VLSI Technologies, IVES works on various networks including the Internet, cable TV networks and direct satellite broadcasting. The first application of IVES is in set-top cable television boxes being built by AT&T for Cablevision Systems Corp., the nation's fifth-largest cable service provider. By employing secure cryptographic addressing, IVES will assure that only paying customers receive enhanced pay-per-view and video-on-demand services. "There have been effective attacks on most, if not all, video encryption systems, despite highly sophisticated countermeasures," said Dr. David Maher, chief scientist for AT&T Secure Communications Systems. "Hackers are dedicated and can be well funded. Incentives are rising rapidly." [...stuff...] Dedicated? Definitely. Well-funded? Hmmm. This item is something for your acronym-scan parsers; will IVES become interesting? (If not IVES, what of CURRIER? Whoa- it was a joke, officer - CURRIER and IVES, get it? Oh, shit.) Search done for Message: <<< BELL LABS IN THE NEWS >>> - ---------------- >>> DNA -- In a bold experiment that provokes investigators to reconsider what a computer is, a researcher has used the genetic material DNA as a sort of personal computer. The experiment's designer, Dr. Leonard Adleman, translated a difficult math problem into the language of molecular biology and solved it by carrying out a reaction in one-fiftieth of a teaspoon of solution in a test tube. Adleman, of the Univ. of Southern California in Los Angeles, used DNA to solve a problem that involved finding the shortest path linking seven cities. Molecular computers, Adleman said, are fast and efficient, and they have unheard-of storage capacities. He said molecular computers can perform more than a trillion operations per second, which makes them 1,000 times as fast as the fastest supercomputer. And they can store information in a trillionth of the space ordinary computers require. "It's a very intriguing idea," said Ron Graham, of the Bell Labs Information Sciences Division at Murray Hill. "It's more than just cute. It makes you think in a different direction." (from the Denver Post, Nov. 22, '94) [...stuff...] Hmmm. Have you ever been spied on by your own metabolism? ..... YOU WILL. Then again. maybe not. FYI. -Philippe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAwUBLxN0uQvlW1K2YdE1AQHMGAQAu5S0T9xUPsdY8SfB0k43bE2BNL5pb1OE FAg7qjbJ1ugZw0EPDrGFBH7sjq2GHBhyXwgBrlL5j2oAVnnGL2+3QtrcyxIEsrXA 42ME+1JaOQo5+pclCjOrxF00MDoqGdw7hMLexGyawOs7zp+RGDrhPUkMG7ennpky 8QEfrFh8yYU= =pI4l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ........................................................................ Philippe D. Nave, Jr. | Strong Crypto: Don't leave $HOME without it! nave(a)abacus.dr.att.com | Denver, Colorado USA | PGP public key: by arrangement.

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Re: Why use plastic for remailers and DH?
by L. McCarthy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Angus Patterson writes: > why would anybody want to use something as completely traceable as a > credit card to pay for a remailer or a data haven? Apart from what Russ Nelson observed, safety in numbers is potentially great. If, say, 15% of the net.populace does it, then it won't be terribly interesting to know that some particular person has done it. I suppose a transition period would be helpful, in which credit card-financed bandwidth is increased with a load of low security traffic. -L. Futplex McCarthy - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAwUBLxOAC2f7YYibNzjpAQHFxAP9EphOcjL96QDuuJQ7eFLv/I3Ci0K6NkMI tg9bUODYUMVqHs/2dTm8YhxNgOmx90uDb9MPx+EDDrtFZDAT9AIs8GQf1OdsyPrh Hg9PDIB4jT+JMfY3zqERePW+0Ac5TWoxQto0uQH8lRRWvNcp0R7N/sdYOwIRRTK8 o5BGm0wyJHg= =qt2F - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLxOBOyoZzwIn1bdtAQHAXAF+Jcfrh9xhfx7MlS6oK5Cfu4E96P+rOuGW Xto/oQG7HcqAbl2adr0zyMQnfh4alDgk =FtZw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Getting on the list
by John Draper 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I've been trying to get back on the Cypherpunks list now for over 3 weeks. IS anyone out there on the list that has the power to get me added. I tried the usual request to cypherpunks-request(a)toad.com, but haven't been sucessful. Who is maintaining the list these days? Does it still exist? And why haven't any of my requests been hohored? thats honored... Thanx John D.

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Storm Signals
by cactus＠seabsd.hks.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On a social mailing list that I'm on, two things have been noticed in the last week: 1: Somebody's roommate (a Green Beret) has been called back into 6 months of active service. He was not told where he'd be. 2: GPS fine positioning has been turned off. This is only done during times of military operations (such as the 'invasion' of Haiti and the Iraq Massacre). It's also been highly correlated with Pentagon pizza deliveries. Anybody else have any clues as to what's up? No overt crypto relevence, but some parallels to traffic analysis could be easily drawn. - - -- Todd Masco | "life without caution/ the only worth living / love for a man/ cactus(a)hks.net | love for a woman/ love for the facts/ protectless" - A Rich Cactus' Homepage - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLxKkJhNhgovrPB7dAQGCqwP/YzFcuNDCoUDY4a8O5YuVryBZ51HisN6m PHwc5W2bmwXx8LLQs1fOu8J9d3SFZM8l47bBj8EZCIvXatrUCHPVIqnBWfE30z8w 7uQRBn+eTtct/vs9MgPTGDk+mNWgDtYHL7TQ8vfypkYVgrlWH3pNbEs4+EkRv/5l ayYaAPq3IoU= =YUo1 - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLxLe7CoZzwIn1bdtAQHEcgGAm0rMUiMy+5bUX419XmkLtHFXNUjvV8e0 1YylcQ5G9C/HlWXYZett0tudtpBUGZsS =kfFB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: January meeting with
by david.lloyd-jones＠canrem.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

LE+> The following is a message from my lawyer, Phil Dubois. He posted it +> to alt.security.pgp, and I thought I should post it here as well. The +> message is signed with his key. +> +> --Philip Zimmermann +> LE+The aforementioned signed message from PKZ's lawyer message failed +signature check on my system, apparently because it contained a very +long text line which, somewhere along the way, was chopped into two +lines before it arrived in my mailbox. LE+The two lines as they appeared in my message (which failed signature +test) are: Well, there it is. Phil goes free. -dlj. david.lloyd-jones(a)canrem.com * 1st 1.11 #3818 * Gingrich, n. abbrev. : "giving to the rich".

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Re: Pornography, What is it?
by root 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > You seem to have missed where I say that I don't agree with this > line of reasoning. I tend to believe that the first amendment means > what it says. (I.e. make no law.) But the fact of the matter is that > the people who make the law think differently, right or wrong. > I understand, I just don't think most of the folks out there against porno are interested in constitutional rights. They don't see them as relevant to their day to day lives. You might call it a sort of cult of personality which is using religion as the head. Also, the 1st Amendment says that Congress shall make no law, it doesn't say a damn thing about the states doing it. When I read this amendment what I see is the founding fathers saying it is up to each state to decide for themselves. And since Congress is placed in charge of inter-state relations it is quite simple to reduce this to mean that States may not apply their standards to other states because they would then be acting in the place of the federal government. > >I understand what you are saying, what I am saying is the distinction is not > >used in practice. The bbs operator in Cali. that was busted in Tennessee was > >busted for delivering PORNOGRAPHY (not obscenity) to a minor (in short a 14 > >year olds account being operated by a oinkdroid.) > The key word here is 'minor'. Minor have nowhere near the rights > that adults have. Try banning the sale of pornography to demonstrated > adults. > Yes, but at no time was it proved that a mindor DID d/l the file only that they could. Big distinction to me. A oinkdroid did the d/l'ing by playing like the 14 year old. To me this is entrapment. > I think you misunderstand. The First Amendment places restrictions > upon what the States may do. The States are free to make such > laws or NOT. Some don't. Most do. > The 1st. Amendment says nothing about what the states can do, only Congress. > It's all very well and good to say such things, but this formulation > of liberty has no reasonable basis in Constitutional Law. The > Bill of Rights does not encode Mill's On Liberty, as much as you > might like it to. > Then I suggest you read the 9th and 10th Amendment. The 9th says the states will ALWAYS get the benefit of the doubt. The 10th says the federal government will NEVER get it unless there is a Constitional Amendment. > Huh? Obscenity has to do with freedom of speech, not action. It's > an exception to the First Amendment, not to some general class > of liberties. Depictions of anal sex are typically not considered > obscene. The act of anal sex is often made illegal, but that's an > entirely separate issue. It is made illegal because it is considered obscene. You seem to be skirting the issue here. And since when is speech not an act? There are a whole list of things included in the freedom of speech issue (ie freedom of the press) that clearly implies that speech is one kind of act. > > >Also, the whole concept of community standards is unworkable. Whose community? > The community passing the law. Last time I checked such cases were tried by 12 peers, this hardly qualifies as community by any definition. It is not like they take a vote of all the people in the community of voting age (which they should). > > > Look, you can make general arguments about the way that you think > that your liberty should be, but the only legal basis you have > for claims that you have the freedom to do something is the > Bill of Rights. I'm arguing from that basis. > As am I. I base each and every one of my beliefs about how this government is supposed to be run on that document and that document alone. It is not the supreme law of the land for nothing.

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Microsoft TrueName(tm)
by strick -- henry strickland 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

brat(a)apple.com found this somewhere.... strick Microsoft Clarifies Trademark Policies REDMOND, Washington--January 4, 1995--In response to customer inquiries, Microsoft today clarified the naming policy for Bob(tm), its new software product designed for computer beginners. Contrary to rumors, Microsoft will not demand that all persons formerly named "Bob" immediately select new first names. "I don't know where these rumors come from," commented Steve Balmer, Microsoft Executive Vice President for Worldwide Sales and Support. "It's ridiculous to think Microsoft would force people outside the computer industry to change their names. We won't, and our licensing policies for people within the industry will be so reasonable that the Justice Department could never question them." Balmer said employees of other computer companies will be given the opportunity to select new names, and will also be offered a licensing option allowing them to continue using their former names at very low cost. The new licensing program, called Microsoft TrueName(tm), offers persons who want to continue being known by the name Bob the option of doing so, with the payment of a small monthly licensing fee and upon signing a release form promising never to use OpenDoc. As an added bonus, Bob name licensees will also be authorized to display the Windows 95 logo on their bodies. Persons choosing not to license the Bob name will be given a 60-day grace period during which they can select another related name. "We're being very lenient in our enforcement of the Bob trademark," said Bill Newkom, Microsoft's Senior Vice President of Law and Corporate Affairs. "People are still free to call themselves Robert, Robby, or even Rob. Bobby however is derivative of Microsoft's trademark and obviously can't be allowed." Microsoft also announced today that Bob(tm) Harbold, its Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer, has become the first Microsoft TrueName licensee and will have the Windows 95 logo tattooed to his forehead.

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