December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Lack of net access blows:
by one4evil＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cyberpunks, Que pasa? My name is D and I am new to the list...I will most likely just be lurking for a while, till I get a visit from the Duel Pentium II 266, 128megs of RAM, running Linux on one PII and Win98 on the Other Fariy...She should be along by the end of the summer... Anywhoo, the point of the subject is that at this point and time I don't have net access so I was hopeing someone out there would send me the FAQ that is talked of in the welcome message. It can be found at: anonymous ftp to rtfm.mit.edu:pub/usenet-by-group/sci.crypt At least I think that is where it is at... I thank who ever is nice enough to send it to me...Also, maybe post a message to me as soon as you send it...That way I don't end up with like all of you sending it and Juno kicking my ass again for flooding there box. TNX, D. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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Re: D.A.R.E. and a Bullpup
by cons0005＠algonquinc.on.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date sent: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:56:38 -0700 To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> Subject: D.A.R.E. and a Bullpup Send reply to: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > I often wear a t-shirt around town which reads: > > > D. A. R. E. > > I turned in my parents > and all I got was this > lousy t-shirt > I think you should get one: If your a nigger, I'm Aryan. <G> http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/8018/ http://wabakimi.carleton.ca/~nmarion/ http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~jproud/yash/ (For when you're bored)-PGPd Mail Preferred

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Timmy Mc Veigh
by nobody＠nsm.htp.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Text of essay said written by Timothy McVeigh - something to think about. May 28, 1998 Web posted at: 10:10 p.m. EDT (0210 GMT) (AP) -- The June 1998 issue of Media Bypass Magazine includes this essay it says was written by Timothy McVeigh: The administration has said that Iraq has no right to stockpile chemical or biological weapons ("weapons of mass destruction") -- mainly because they have used them in the past. Well, if that's the standard by which these matters are decided, then the U.S. is the nation that set the precedent. The U.S. has stockpiled these same weapons (and more) for over 40 years. The U.S. claims that this was done for deterrent purposes during its "Cold War" with the Soviet Union. Why, then, is it invalid for Iraq to claim the same reason (deterrence) -- with respect to Iraq's (real) war with, and the continued threat of, its neighbor Iran? The administration claims that Iraq has used these weapons in the past. We've all seen the pictures that show a Kurdish woman and child frozen in death from the use of chemical weapons. But, have you ever seen these photos juxtaposed next to pictures from Hiroshima or Nagasaki? I suggest that one study the histories of World War I, World War II and other "regional conflicts" that the U.S. has been involved in to familiarize themselves with the use of "weapons of mass destruction." Remember Dresden? How about Hanoi? Tripoli? Baghdad? What about the big ones -- Hiroshima and Nagasaki? (At these two locations, the U.S. killed at least 150,000 non-combatants -- mostly women and children -- in the blink of an eye. Thousands more took hours, days, weeks, or months to die.) If Saddam is such a demon, and people are calling for war crimes charges against him and his nation, whey do we not hear the same cry for blood directed at those responsible for even greater amounts of "mass destruction" -- like those responsible and involved in dropping bombs on the cities mentioned above? The truth is, the U.S. has set the standard when it comes to the stockpiling and use of weapons of mass destruction. Hypocrisy when it comes to the death of children? In Oklahoma City, it was family convenience that explained the presence of a day-care center placed between street level and the law enforcement agencies which occupied the upper floors of the building. Yet when discussion shifts to Iraq, any day-care center in a government building instantly becomes "a shield." Think about that. (Actually, there is a difference here. The administration has admitted to knowledge of the presence of children in or near Iraqi government buildings, yet they still proceed with their plans to bomb -- saying that they cannot be held responsible if children die. There is no such proof, however, that knowledge of the presence of children existed in relation to the Oklahoma City bombing.) When considering morality and "mens rea" (criminal intent) in light of these facts, I ask: Who are the true barbarians? Yet another example of this nation's blatant hypocrisy is revealed by the polls which suggest that this nation is greatly in favor of bombing Iraq. In this instance, the people of the nation approve of bombing government employees because they are "guilty by association" -- they are Iraqi government employees. In regard to the bombing in Oklahoma City, however, such logic is condemned. What motivates these seemingly contradictory positions? Do people think that government workers in Iraq are any less human than those in Oklahoma City? Do they think that Iraqis don't have families who will grieve and mourn the loss of their loved ones? In this context, do people come to believe that the killing of foreigners is somehow different than the killing of Americans? I recently read of an arrest in New York City where possession of a mere pipe bomb was charged as possession of a "weapon of mass destruction." If a two-pound pipe bomb is a "weapon of mass destruction," then what do people think that a 2,000-pound steel-encased bomb is? I find it ironic, to say the least, that one of the aircraft that could be used to drop such a bomb on Iraq is dubbed "The Spirit of Oklahoma." This leads me to a final, and unspoken, moral hypocrisy regarding the use of weapons of mass destruction. When a U.S. plane or cruise missile is used to bring destruction to a foreign people, this nation rewards the bombers with applause and praise. What a convenient way to absolve these killers of any responsibility for the destruction they leave in their wake. Unfortunately, the morality of killing is not so superficial. The truth is, the use of a truck, a plane, or a missile for the delivery of a weapon of mass destruction does not alter the nature of the act itself. These are weapons of mass destruction -- and the method of delivery matters little to those on the receiving end of such weapons. Whether you wish to admit it or not, when you approve, morally, of the bombing of foreign targets by the U.S. military, you are approving of acts morally equivalent to the bombing in Oklahoma City. The only difference is that this nation is not going to see any foreign casualties appear on the cover of Newsweek magazine. It seems ironic and hypocritical that an act as viciously condemned in Oklahoma City is now a "justified" response to a problem in a foreign land. Then again, the history of United States policy over the last century, when examined fully, tends to exemplify hypocrisy. When considering the use of weapons of mass destruction against Iraq as a means to an end, it would be wise to reflect on the words of the late U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis. His words are as true in the context of Olmstead as they are when they stand alone: "Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or ill, it teaches the whole people by its example." Sincerely, Timothy J. McVeigh

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Re: Satellite processing (was Re: DRUDGE-REPORT-EXCLUSIVE pablum)
by Dave Emery 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, May 28, 1998 at 06:22:16PM -0700, Tim May wrote: > > ROMs currently have no sensitivity to cosmic rays or alpha particles from > natural radioactivity in the environment, and are not expected to. Single > event upsets typically happen with cross-coupled static RAM cells or with > dynamic RAMs. _Some_ errors happen in logic circuits, including > microprocessors, but not many. > > No doubt some examples of reported errors in ROM circuits can be found, but > I suspect the errors are either in the decode logic or elsewhere, and > certainly not in the mask-programmable bits or the blown fuse sections. > Lots of ROM types exist, so I don't want to try to list all major types > here. > > Some EAROMs (Electrically Alterable) or EEPROMs (Electrically Erasable) are > sensitive to some radiation events, but not nearly as sensitive as RAM > chips are. The IEEE Transactions on Nuclear Science, the December issue of > every year, is devoted to reporting on actual sensitivity levels and > physical mechanisms. I certainly defer to your expertise, as I have no particular knowlage of radiation effects aside from reading an occasional technical paper or article touching on the subject tangentially. What I should have said in any case is damage to Flash EPROM or other electrically programmed EPROM, as several people have pointed out that fuse and mask programmed ROMs are not at all subject to single event radiation damage. I suppose that ROMs on board a satellite could easily afford to be masked types, but of course there still are sound engineering reasons to keep ROM'd code as minimal, simple and straighforward as possible, especially when it cannot ever be changed and hundreds of millions of dollars of satellite depends on it. -- Dave Emery N1PRE, die(a)die.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass. PGP fingerprint = 2047/4D7B08D1 DE 6E E1 CC 1F 1D 96 E2 5D 27 BD B0 24 88 C3 18

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Re: Timmy Mc Veigh
by StanSqncrs＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 5/28/98 10:41:37 PM Central Daylight Time, nobody(a)nsm.htp.org quotes: << ... It seems ironic and hypocritical that an act as viciously condemned in Oklahoma City is now a "justified" response to a problem in a foreign land. Then again, the history of United States policy over the last century, when examined fully, tends to exemplify hypocrisy. ... >> I tell you folks, that's some of the best written propaganda I've ever seen. Here's it's only faults that I see. Tim McVeigh is now taking the position that the OKCity bombing was a bad thing. I don't ever recall him ever taking that position before. And, while his post recognizes the old saying '2 wrongs don't make a right', the post still goes against that saying (thanks to his history.) But he's definitely got some valid points as to how it relates to the USA's use of weapons of mass destruction and Iraq, it's an excellent argument for that. Stan

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A Plug
by StanSqncrs＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey look, Nobody's expressed interest in joining FreeGroup, but he can't come in anomonously because of the 'machine' involved with my list. So, the only way he can do it (and remain anonomous) is by coming in under a different alias (since the other one's been uncovered, IMHO.) But, if he simply applies now under a different alias, he knows that I know it's him, so I need to give him cover, so I'm going to give a little FreeGroup plug to all the Cypherpunks, so I won't really know it's him that's applying, when he does. In reality, other Cypherpunks are also very welcome to join. So Cypherpunks, here's something you (almost) missed by not being in FreeGroup, posts that show that the right-wing stole the anti-FBI/Government sentiment card from guess who, us Liberals! We never took it as far as they did, though. We aren't that stupid :-) And if somehow my memory fails and I already posted this (and any others) here, let me apologize in advance (though somehow, I doubt anyone will mind (except perhaps any FBI agents that might be viewing ;-) ) But before we get to the FBI (a favorite on this list, from my obvservations), first we talk about other government agencies - ====== Subj: The Arch Angel Date: 5/27/98 To: [FreeGroup] Bet some of you newcomers wonder where the right-wing got the idea that being anti-government might be a popular idea. I'll tell you where. They got it from us liberals ... Around here (thanks to Fred), this guy is known as the 'Arch Angel Arlo'. He was my favorite political composer of the era - ====== Alices Resturant Alice's Restaurant Massacree - by Arlo Guthrie This song is called Alice's Restaurant, it's a - bout Alice - and the restaurant But Alice's Restaurant is not the name of the restaurant that's - just the name of the song That's why I call the song Alice's Restaurant You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant You can get anything you want - at Alice's Restaurant Walk right in it's around the back - just a half a mile from the railroad track You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant Now it all started 2 Thanksgivings ago thats on 2 years ago on Thanksgiving when my friend and I went up to visit Alice at the Restaurant, but - Alice doesn't live in the Restaurant, she - lives in the church nearby the restaurant in the bell tower, with her husband Ray and, Fasha the dog and living in the bell tower like that they got a lot of room downstairs where the pews used to've been, having all that room, seein' how they took out all the pews, they decided that they didn't have to take out their garbage for a long time. We got up there, we found all the garbage in there and we decided it'd be a - friendly gesture for us to take the garbage down to the city dump. So we took the half-a-ton of garbage put it in the back of a red VW microbus took shovels and rakes and impliments of destruction and - headed on toward the city dump. Well we got there there's a big sign and a chain across the dump saying "closed on Thanksgiving" and, we had never heard of a dump closed on Thanksgiving before and with - tears in our eyes we drove off into the sunset looking for - another place to put the garbage. We didn't find one - 'Till we came to a side road and off the side of the side road was another 15 foot cliff and, at the bottom of the cliff was another pile of garbage and, we decided that 1 big pile was better than 2 little piles and rather than bring that one up, we decided to throw ours down. That's what we did. Drove back to the church had a Thanksgiving dinner that couldn't be beat went to sleep and didn't get up until the next morning, when we got a phone call from Officer Obie. Said "Kid - we found your name on an envelope at the bottom of a half-a-ton of garbage and - just wanted to know if you had any information about it" and I said "yes sir Officer Obie, I cannot tell a lie - I put that envelope under that garbage." After speaking to Obie for about 45 minutes on the telephone we finally arrived at the truth of the matter and said that we had to go down and pick up the garbage and, also had to go down and speak to him at the Police Officer station so we got in the red, VW microbus with the shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed on towards the Police Officer station. Now friends, there was only 1 of 2 things Obie could've done at the Police station, and the 1st was that he could've givin us a medal for being so brave and honest on the telephone, which wasn't very likely, and we didn't expect it, and the other thing was, that he could've bawled us out and told us never to be seen driving garbage around the vicinity again. Which is what we expected, but when we got to the Police Officer station, there was a 3rd possibility that we hadn't even counted upon, and we was both immediatly arrested. Handcuffed and I said Obie "I - don't think I can pick up the garbage with these handcuffs on." Said "Shut up kid, get in the back of the patrol car" and that's what we did, sat in the back of the patrol car and drove to the quote "scene-of-the-crime" unquote. I want to tell you about the town of Stockbridge, Massachusetts where this happened here, they got 3 stop signs - 2 police officers and 1 police car, but when we got to the "scene-of-the-crime", there was 5 police officers and 3 police cars - being the biggest crime of the last 50 years and everybody wanted to get in the newspaper story about it. And they was using up all kinds of cop equipment that they had hanging around the Police Officer station. They was taking plaster tire track footprints dog smellin' prints, and they took twenty-seven 8 by 10 color glossy photographs, with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against us. Took pictures of the approach, the getaway, the northwest corner, the southwest corner, and that's not to mention the ariel photography. After the ordeal, we went back to the jail Obie said he was gonna put us in the cell, said "Kid, I'm gonna put you in the cell, I want your wallet and your belt." I said "Obie, I can understand you wanting my wallet so I don't have any money to spend in the cell but what do you want my belt for?" Said "Kid - we don't want any hangins." Said "Obie, did you think I was gonna hang myself for littering?" Obie said he was making sure, and friends, Obie was 'cause he took out the toilet seat so I couldn't hit myself over the head and drown. And he took out the toilet paper so I couldn't bend the bars, roll out, roll the toilet paper out the window, slide down the roll and have an escape. Obie was making sure, and it was about 4 or 5 hours later, that Alice, remember Alice? It's a song about Alice. Alice came by and with a few nasty words to Obie on the side - bailed us out of jail, we went back to the church, had another Thanksgiving dinner that couldn't be beat and didn't get up until the next morning, when we all had to go to court. We walked in, sat down. Obie came in - with the twenty-seven 8 by 10 color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one, sat down. Man came in said "All rise." We all stood up and Obie stood up with the twenty-seven 8 by 10 color glossy pictures and the Judge walked in, sat down with a seeing-eye dog and he sat down. We sat down. Obie looked at the seeing-eye dog. And then at the twenty-seven 8 by 10 color glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one - and looked at the seeing-eye dog. And then at the twenty-seven 8 by 10 color glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one and began to cry - 'cause Obie came to the realization, that it was a typical case - of 'American Blind Justice', and there was nothing he could do about it, and the Judge wasn't gonna look at the twenty-seven 8 by 10 color glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against us. And we was fined fifty dollars and had to - pick up the garbage in the snow, but - that's not what I came to tell you about. Came to talk about the draft. They got a building down in New York City it's called 'Whitehall Street' where you walk in and get injected, inspected, detected, infected, neglected and selected. I went down to get my physical examination one day and I walked in, sat down - got good and drunk the night before so I looked and felt my best when I went in that mornin'. 'Cause I wanted to look like the all American kid from New York City. Man I wanted, I wanted to feel like the all, I wanted to be - the all American kid, from New York and I walked in, sat down I was hung down, brung down, hung up and all - kinds of mean, nasty, ugly things, and I walked in, I sat down, they gave me a piece of paper that said "Kid - see the Psychiatrist, room 6O4. And - I went up there, said "Shrink, I wanna kill. I mean I wanna, wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill. Kill. KILL. KILL." And I started jumping up and down, yellin' "KILL. KILL." And he started jumping up and down with me with me, and we was both jumpin' up and down, yelling "KILL. KILL." And the Sergeant came over, pinned a medal on me, sent me down the hall, said "You're our boy." Didn't feel to good about it, uh, proceeded down the hall getting more injections, inspections, detections, neglections, and all - kinds of stuff that they was doin' to me at the thing there and I was there for 2 hours, 3 hours, 4 hours - I was there a long time goin' through all kinds of mean, nasty, ugly things and I - was, just having a tough time there and they was inspecting, injecting every - single part of me, and they was leavin' no place untouched. Proceeded through and I - when finally came to see the very last man, I walked in, I walked in, sat down after a whole big thing there, and I walked up and said "What do ya want". He said "Kid, we only got one question - have you ever been arrested?" I proceeded to tell him the story of the 'Alice's Restaurant Massacree' with - full orchestration and five part harmony and stuff like that and then all the phenomina "Stop It Right There" said "Kid - did you ever go to court?" I proceeded to tell him the story of the twenty-seven 8 by 10 color glossy pictures with the circles and arrows, and a paragraph on the back of each one "Stop It Right There" and said "Kid - I want you to go over and sit down on that bench that says 'Group W' - NOW KID!" I, and I, I walked over to the, to the bench there, and there is - there's Group W's where they, where they put ya, if you may not be moral enough to, to join the Army, after committing your special crime and - there was all kinds of mean, nasty, ugly looking people on the bench there - mother rapers - father stabbers - father rapers! - father rapers sittin' right there on the bench next to me and, one, they was mean and nasty and ugly, and horible and crime, fighting guys was sittin' on the bench. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one - the meanest father raper of them all, was coming over to me, and he was mean and ugly and nasty and horible and all kinds of things, and he sat down next to me and said "Kid - what did ya get?" I said "I didn't get nothin', I had to pay fifty dollars and pick up the garbage". He said "What were you arrested for, kid?" and I - said "Littering" - and they all moved away from me on the bench there and the hairy eyeball, and all kinds of mean, nasty things, 'till I said "and creating a nuisance" and they all came back, shook my hand and we had a great time talkin' about crime, mother stabbin', mother raping, and all kinds of groovy things that we was talkin' about on the bench. And everything was fine, we was smoking cigarettes and all kinds of things, until the Sergeant came over - had some paper in his hand, said "Kids - This piece of papers got 47 word 37 sentences 58 word we want to know detail of the crime time crime and any kind of thing you got to say time and tune about the crime unknown arresting officers name and everything you got to say..." and he talked for 45 minutes, and nobody understood a word that he said, but we had fun filling out the forms and playing with the pencils on the bench there and - I filled out the 'Massacree' with the 4 part harmony and - wrote it down there, just like it was and everything was fine and I - put down the pencil and turned over the piece of paper and there - there on the other side - in the middle of the other side - away from everything else on the other side - in parenthesis - capital letters - quotated - read the following words. "Kid - have you rehabilitated yourself?" I went over to the Sergeant and said "Sergeant, you've got a - lot of damn gall to ask me if I've rehabilitated myself, I mean - I mean - I mean, I just, I'm sittin' here on the bench, I mean I'm sitting on the Group W bench - because you want to know if I'm moral enough to join the Army, burn women, kids houses and villages after being a litterbug." He looked at me and said "Kid - we don't like your kind - and we're going to send your fingerprints off to Washington" and friends - somewhere in Washington enshrined in some little folder is a - study in black and white - of my fingerprints. And the only reason why I'm singing you this song now is because you may know somebody in a similar situation - or YOU may be in a similar situation and if you're in a situation like that - there's only one thing you can do is, walk into the shrink wherever you are, just walk in and say "Shrink - You can get anything you want at Alice's Resaurant" and walk out. Ya know, if 1 person, just 1 person does it they'll think he's really sick and they wont take him. And if 2 people, 2 people do it - in harmony - they may think they're both faggots and won't take either of 'em. And if 3 people do it - 3, can you imagine 3 people walking in singing a bar of 'Alice's Restaurant' and walking out? They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine 5O people a day? I said 5O people a day walking in singing a bar of 'Alice's Restaurant' and walking out. And friends they may think it's a movement, and that's what it is. The 'Alice's Restaurant Anti-Massecree' movement, and all you got to do to join, is sing it the next time it comes around on guitar - with feeling. So we'll wait 'till it comes around on the guitar here and sing it when it does - here it comes - You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant You can get anything you want - at Alice's Restaurant Walk right in it's around the back - just a half a mile from the railroad track You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant That was horrible. You want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud. You could put alot, I've been singing this song now for about 25 minutes - I could sing it for another 25 minutes - I'm not proud - or tired - so we'll wait 'till it comes around again and - this time with 4 part harmony and feeling - we're just waiting for it to come around is what we're doing - allright now - You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant, excepting Alice You can get anything you want - at Alice's Restaurant Just walk right in it's around the back - just a half a mile from the railroad track and you can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant Da da da da da dum, at Alice's Restaurant! ====== Stan, FreeGroup - "Just Say It!" http://members.aol.com/whtsametau/FreeGroup.html

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More Government Bashing
by StanSqncrs＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ah yes, a bit of local police bashing, courts bashing and draft bashing. Here's a little more local police bashing with a tiny bit of FBI bashing thrown in to segue into the next post - @@@@@@ Subj: Another Cop Bashing Story Date: 5/28/98 To: [FreeGroup] Again, I can't resist - ===== Motorcycle (Significance of the Pickle) Song - Arlo Guthrie I don't want a pickle Just want to ride on my motorsickle And I don't want a tickle I'd rather ride on my motorsickle And I don't want to die Just want to ride on my motorcy - cle You know, it's been about 12 years now that, I've been singing this dumb song. You know, it's amazing, it's amazing that somebody could get away with singing a song this dumb for that long. But you know, hey you know what's more amazing than that is that, is that uh, somebody could make a living singing a song this dumb. But, that's America! You know, I told about everything there was to tell about it. When I wrote it, how come, why, what for, but you know the one thing, that I always used to neglect to explain, was the significance of the pickle. It was the time I was riding my bike, I was going down a mountain road. I was doing 150 miles an hour. On one side of the mountain road there was a mountain, and on the other side there was nothin', it was just a cliff in the air. But I wasn't paying attention you know I was just driving down the road. All of a sudden by accident, a string broke off my guitar. It broke you know right there went flying across the road that way, wrapped itself around a yield sign. Well the sign didn't break, it didn't come out of the ground, the string stayed wrapped around it. Stayed in the other end of my guitar, I held on to my guitar with one hand. I held on to the bike with the other. I made a sharp turn off the road. Luckily I didn't go into the mountain. I went over the cliff. I was doing 150 miles an hour sideways, and 500 feet down at the same time. Hey, I was looking for the cops, 'cause you know, hey I knew that you know it, it was illegal. Well, I knew that it was it. I knew I didn't have long, to live in this world. And in my last remaining seconds in the world I knew that it was my obligation to, write one last farewell song to the world. Took out a piece of paper, I pulled out a pen, and it didn't write I, I had to put another ink cartridge in it. I sat back and I thought for awhile and then it come to me, it come like a flash, like a vision burnt across the clouds. I just wrote it down. I learned it right away. I don't want a pickle, just want to ride on my motorsickle. And I don't want a tickle, I'd rather ride on my motorsickle. And I don't want to die, just, want to ride on my motorcy - cle. Hey I, you know, I knew it wasn't the best song I ever wrote, but I didn't have time to change it. But you know the most amazing thing was, that I didn't die, I landed on the top of a police car, and it died. I come into town, I come into town at a screaming 175 miles an hour singing my new motorcycle song. I stopped out in front of the deli and out in front of the deli was a man, eating the most tremendous pickle, a pickle the size of four pregnant watermelons, just a huge monster pickle. He walked up to me, pushed a pickle in my face and started asking me questions. It was about the same time I noticed a pickle in my face I noticed a cord hanging from the long end of the pickle going up his sleeve down his shirt into his pants and shoes out into a briefcase he had near his feet. I knew it wasn't a ordinary pickle. But it was about the same time I noticed the cord hanging out ot the pickle that a 4 foot cop arrived, with a 5 foot gun. A cop that one time, must have been around 6 foot 3, but was met at the bottom of a mountain, by a flying, singing, writing, weirdo freak. He walked up and with one tremendous hand he grabbed the pickle away from the other guy. He threw it, a hundred feet, straight up in the air. And while the pickle was half way between going up and coming down, he took out his gun and put a 3 inch bullet hole right through the long end of the pickle. It started coming back down. He stuck out his foot. He caught the pickle on his big toe. And balancing the pickle on his big toe he reached his huge hand into his little pocket, pulled out a 10 foot ticket. He borrowed my pen, he wrote it up, then he rolled it up, and stuffed it in the bullet hole in the middle of the pickle, took the pickle with the ticket and shoved it down my throat. It was at that very moment, that the pickle with the ticket was going down my throat that, I knew for sure that, that I didn't want a pickle. I don't want a pickle I just want to ride on my motorsickle And I don't want a tickle I'd rather ride on my motorsickle And I don't want to die Just want to ride on my, motorcy - cle @@@@@ And on to the meat of the matter, the FBI - @@@@@ Subj: Re: Another Cop Bashing Story + FBI Bashing Date: 5/29/98 To: [FreeGroup] << YES!!! I actually do have an original copy! It's on the album "ARLO" . I'll work on that transcript this weekend. I also have "Hobo's Lullaby" Pretty cool stuff dude! >> Ok, then you deserve this - ====== The Pause of Mr. Claus - Arlo Guthrie (introduction) This next song, we're going to dedicate to a great American organization. Tonight, I'd like to dedicate this, to our boys, in the FBI. Well, wait a minute, it's hard to be a FBI man. I mean, first of all to be a FBI man you have to be over 40, years old. And the reason is, that it takes at least 25 years with the organization, to be that much of a bastard. Now, it's true you just can't join, you know it kinda it needs a atmosphere where your natural bastardness, can grow and develop and, take a meaningful shape in today's complex society. But that's not why I want to dedicate the song to the FBI. I mean the job that they have to do, is a drag! I mean they have to follow people around. You know, that's part of their job. Follow me around. I'm out on the highway, and I'm drivin' down the road, and I run out of gasoline and I pull over to the side of the road, they got to pull over too, make believe they ran out. You know, I go to get some gasoline, they have to figure out whether they should stick with the car, or follow me! Suppose I don't come back and they're staying with the car. Or if I fly on the airplanes. I can fly half- fare because I'm 12 - 22, and they got to pay the full fare. But, well, what the thing is when you pay the full fair, you have to get on the airplane first so that they know how many seats are left over for the half-fair kids. Allright and sometimes there aren't any seats left over and, sometimes there are but that doesn't mean you have to go! Well suppose he gets on and fills up the last seat. So you can't get on, then he gets off, then you can get on! What's he going to do? Wait, well, it's a drag for him. But that's not, that's not why I want to dedicate the song to the FBI. During, during these hard, days, and hard weeks, everybody always has it bad once in a while, you know you, you have a bad time of it, and you always has a friend that says "hey man, you ain't got it that bad, look at that guy." And you look at that guy, and he's got it worse than you! And it makes you feel better that there's somebody that's got it worse than you. But think of the last guy. For one minute, think of the last guy. Nobody's got it worse than that guy. Nobody, in the whole world, that guy, he's so alone in the world, that, he doesn't even have a street to lay in for a truck to run him over. He's out theeerre, with nothing. Nothin's happening for that cat. And all that he has to do to, create a little excitement in his, own life, is to bum a dime from somewhere, call up the FBI, say "FBI?" they say "yes?" say "I dig Uncle Ho and Chairman Mao and their friends are coming over for dinner.", hang up the phone. And within two minutes, and not two minutes from, when he hangs up the phone but two minutes from when he first put the dime in, they got 30,000 feet of tape rollin'. Files on tape, pictures, movies, dramas, actions on tape. But then they send out a half a million people all over the entire world, the globe, they find out all they can about this guy. 'Cause there's a number of questions involved in this guy. I mean if he was the last guy in the world, how did he get a dime to call the FBI? There are plenty of people that aren't the last guy, that can't get dimes, he comes along and he gets a dime! I mean if, if he had to bum a dime to call the FBI, how was he going to serve dinner for all those people? *How could the last guy make dinner for all those people?* And if he could make dinner, and was gonna make dinner, then why did he call the FBI? And they find out all of those questions within two minutes! And that's the, that's the great thing about America! I mean, this is the only country in the world, I mean well it's it's not the only country in the world that could find stuff out in two minutes, but it's the only country in the world that would take two minutes for that guy! Well other countries would say "Hey, he's the last guy, screw him!", you know? But, but in America there is no discrimination. And there is no hypocracy, 'cause they'll get anybody. And that's, that's a wonderful thing, about America. And that's why tonight, I'd like to dedicate it to every, FBI man in the audience. I know, you can't say nothin' you know. You can't get up and say, "Hi!", you know, 'cause then everybody knows, that you're a FBI man, that's a drag for you, and your friends! They're not really your friends, are they. I mean so you can't get up and say nothing 'cause otherwise, you got to get sent back, to the factory. And that's, that's a drag for you and an expense for the government. And that's a drag for you. We're going to sing you this Christmas Carol. It's for all you bastards out there in the audience tonight. It's called 'The Pause of Mr. Claus'. <waltz> Why do you sit there so strange Is it because you are beautiful You must think you are deranged Why do police guys beat on peace guys? You must think Santa Claus wierd He-e has lo-ong hair and a beard Giving his presents for free Why do police guys mess with peace guys? Let's get Santa Clause 'Cause Santa Claus has a red suit, he's a communist And a beard and long hair, must be a pacifist What's in the pipe that he's smoking??????? Mr. Claus sneaks in your house at night he must be a dope-fiend, to put you uptight Why do police guys, beat on peace guys? @@@@@ What can I say? We have alot of fun. Stan, FreeGroup - "Just Say It!" http://members.aol.com/whtsametau/FreeGroup.html

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Data Fellows Announces F-Secure FileCrypto
by Mia Westerholm 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For immediate release 29 May 1998 DATA FELLOWS ANNOUNCES F-SECURE FILECRYPTO New Product Provides Centrally Managed On-the-Fly Protection For Sensitive Data on Personal Computers Helsinki, Finland, May 29, 1998 -- Data Fellows, a leading developer of data security software, today announced F-Secure FileCrypto, the latest addition to the companys award-winning cryptographic product line. F-Secure FileCrypto will provide strong, on-the-fly encryption for confidential data in the Microsoft Windows 95/98 and NT 4.0 environments. "F-Secure FileCrypto is the only file encryption product on the market designed for companies with thousands of PCs," says Mr. Camillo Sars, Product Manager, Data Fellows. "The protection of confidential files has never been this easy. F-Secure FileCrypto is centrally installed over the entire network, and automatically encrypts all open and temporary files. The process is completely transparent to end-users, requiring no action from them at all." F-Secure FileCrypto is managed from a central location. The administrator can define a security policy for all installed copies of the software. The recommended basic policy is encrypting all directories on the local hard drive. The program also features a key retrieval function. If a user forgets the password that allows access to encrypted files, the Administrative Key Recovery function manages the situation safely and easily. According to Mr. Sars: "F-Secure FileCrypto is the first and only product to integrate strong real-time encryption into the Windows file system. It automatically encrypts data before it gets stored on the hard disk, protecting sensitive information even in the most demanding situations. If a PC is improperly turned off, or if a laptop computers batteries go dead, any open or temporary files will be encrypted and safe." F-Secure FileCrypto also has a feature which allows users to send encrypted e-mail to other users. Encrypted e-mail can be decrypted with a password. F-Secure FileCrypto uses well-known fast block cipher algorithms. Either the three-key 3DES, or the Blowfish algorithm, can be selected. Both algorithms have been analyzed by the worlds leading cryptographers and are known to be strong and safe. "Files protected by F-Secure FileCrypto are not accessible to computer freaks, hackers, or even cryptography experts. Each file is encrypted with a random session key. Breaking a single key would give someone access to only one file, and the job would consume trillions of years of computer time," says Mr. Sars. F-Secure FileCrypto for Windows NT 4.0 will be available in July 1998, from Data Fellows resellers around the world. F-Secure FileCrypto for Windows 95 and 98 will be available later this year. About Data Fellows Data Fellows is one of the worlds leading developers of data security software. The companys groundbreaking F-Secure products provide a unique combination of globally available strong encryption and revolutionary anti-virus software. The integrated F-Secure software family provides complete security solutions for enterprises of any size. It includes file encryption and IPsec communication encryption products, VPN gateways, SSH-based secure remote management software, easy-to-use solutions for distributed DNS management, and a full range of anti-virus products for workstations, servers and gateways. Data Fellows is also the developer of the award-winning F-PROT Professional anti-virus engine, which is now an integral part of the multiple engine structure of F-Secure Anti-Virus. Data Fellows has offices in San Jose, California, and Helsinki, Finland. In addition, it offers a worldwide network of technical support, training and distribution in over 80 countries. Since the company was founded in 1988, its annual net sales growth has consistently been over 80%. Data Fellows belongs to an elite group of companies with a triple-A rating from Dun&Bradstreet. The company is privately owned. For further information, please contact Data Fellows Ltd., Finland: Mr. Camillo Sars, Product Manager Tel. +358 9 859 900 Fax. +358 9 8599 0599 E-Mail: Camillo.Sars(a)DataFellows.com Data Fellows Inc., USA: Mr. Petri Laakkonen, President Tel. +1 408 938 6700 Fax +1 408 938 6701 E-mail: Petri.Laakkonen(a)DataFellows.com Visit our web site at http://www.DataFellows.com €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ Mia.Westerholm(a)DataFellows.com http://www.DataFellows.com Data Fellows Ltd. PL 24 FIN-02231 ESPOO, FINLAND Tel. +358 9 859 900 Fax. +358 9 8599 0599

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VENTURE CAPITAL OPPORTUNITY
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17 Dec '03

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Extensis Plug-ins are Compatible with Adobe Photoshop 5.0
by listmaster＠extensis.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

As an Extensis customer you will be happy to know that all Extensis products are now Photoshop 5.0 compatible. You can download the latest versions off of our web site for free. These updates are available for all Extensis Photoshop plug-ins including: Intellihance 3.0.2, Mask Pro 1.0, PhotoFrame 1.0, and PhotoTools 2.0.2. Simply visit the Extensis site at http://products.extensis.com/updates/ to get your FREE download. For additional information on Extensis please visit http://www.extensis.com/ For Extensis Customer Service please call 1-800-796-9798. _________________________________________________________________ PS. We have made every effort to ensure this message is being sent only to people who have expressed interest in Extensis products. If we have sent this to you in error, please accept our apologies and reply with REMOVE in the subject line and your email address in the body for automatic exclusion from future communications. If you know someone who would like to be on our mailing list have them send an email to listmaster(a)extensis.com with ADD in the subject line and their email address in the body.

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