December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Autentication gadgets
by Johan Helsingius 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I remember seeing some discussion about the security gadgets people from Bell Labs, amonst others, used for logging in from remote sites. It was a simple credit-card-calculator-like challenge-response device. Any pointers? Julf

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RE: Warrantless searches -- A sign of things to come?
by GERSTEIN＠SCSUD.CTSTATEU.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 17 Apr 94 13:39:39 paul(a)hawksbill.sprintmrn.com (Paul Ferguson) wrote: >A Page 1 story in The Washington Post Sunday (94.04.17) reads, >"Clinton Lets Police Raid Projects," "Warrantless Searches Said to Be >Needed For Tenants Safety." > >For those who haven't been following this ludicrous story, the USG has >now decided that Chicago Housing Authority-sponsored, and warrantless, >searches of dwellings within the CHA, is "A Good Thing" (tm) and >specifically geared towards uncovering weapons of criminals (or >would-be criminals) for the safety of law-abiding Housing tenants. > >Personally, I find this mentality alarming and indicative of a growing >trend within the government. "Big Brother knows best." > >Vile and Nauseating. > >This is another absurdity in the "War on Drugs" and "War on Crime." >More government-sponsored "wars" are undoubtedly on the horizon, >perhaps even a war on non-escrowed crypto. > >I suppose things will get worse before they get better. ======== While I don't agree with these searches either, you have to understand the situation that the people in the CHA buildings are in. Did you see the show that was done on it? (I think it was Nightline, they did a whole hour on it) Anyway, the point is, these people aren't safe in their own homes. The parents keep their children home from school because they are afraid that they will either get shot (which happens quite a lot, one child was shot by a "gangsta" with a sniper rifle while his mother was walking him to school- the kid was about 5 years old) or that the kids will get involved in the gangs. For a while, the Chicago PD were unwilling to enter the buildings until after the shooting had stopped, and would then go in to tag and bag the bodies. IT WAS BAD!!! The landlord of the little kid who got shot decided he wasn't going to put up with that, and started the CHA PD, and they were kicking ass until the ACLU got involved. Slightly related is the fact that I live on my school's campus in the residence halls. If the resident advisors feel there is probable cause for something and decides to do a room search, I can do nothing about it but hope they don't find what ever it is their looking for (usually because I don't do anything bad >:)). Anyway, if they find something (drugs, beer in excess of the 6 can limit, firearms, PGP, etc.) they can call the campus police (real, live, actual cops) in to bust my ass and nail it to the wall. BUT NO WARRANT WAS SERVED! Does that mean I can get the ACLU up the school's ass? If the school says they can do that because I pay to live on their property, then why can't the CHA do what they want? Just my 0.02¢..... adam "After this, nothing will shock me." ---------- "In a Time/CNN poll of 1,000 Americans conducted last week by Yankelovich Partners, two-thirds said it was more important to protect the privacy of phone calls than to preserve the ability of police to conduct wiretaps. When informed about the Clipper Chip, 80% said they opposed it." - Philip Elmer-Dewitt, "Who Should Keep the Keys", TIME, Mar. 4, 1994

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warrantless searches
by Brian D Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- As a lifetime Chicago resident, let me add my $.02 The CHA projects are a Liberal idea gone bad...People confused solid architectural fact (large buildings can be more cost efficent) with bad social policy. (these people could effectivly solve their own problems, and could live together in effective comunities) The idea of sweeps will never work, they'd have to do it a couple of times a day. I don't even need to go into the unconstitutionality of the whole process. The whole thing boils down to trying to use a simple solution to solve a complex problem, which works for politicians, but no one else. Besides, Handguns are illegal in Chicago, and have been for more than a decade....... Brian Williams Extropian Cypherpatriot "Cryptocosmology: Sufficently advanced comunication is indistinguishable from noise." --Steve Witham "Have you ever had your phones tapped by the government? YOU WILL and the company that'll bring it to you.... AT&T" --James Speth -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLbLg6tCcBnAsu2t1AQHcwAQAhnr0ipDpj9w66CrnBaSVrjddgYOGDFRe 9vKQeHc4vx3GAKqw5ED7eVwzIO9NwItVZg/OzVvZi3IfZ3zVtCG9gSTalrQI1ZK2 e46lYK5hQi93cj3lh5CPGS5nn0GH6AviZs5BVoWk3kjd2J+KdH6F0YlWhwo+WRVa XsVymZkGps0= =QUH4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Laundering money through commodity futures
by gtoal＠an-teallach.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

: > there was a popular song in the (1910's? 1920's?) called 'the man who : > broke the bank at monte carlo' and I do recall reading (in a book of : Short of actual references, this remains an urban legend. Even if : demonstrated, it doesn't necessarily mean anything about the practical : application of doubling and similar strategies. I have a reference to that somewhere, but I'll save us all the bother of looking it up. The song was based on a guy (I think he was an engineer) who noticed a slight imbalance on one of the wheels, giving him a minor advantage which he parlayed up by long and boring repetitive bets on numbers at that side of the wheel. It wasn't a Martingale system. G

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RE: Warrentless Search
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Jeff Davis Another facet of human nature one can trust is 75% of the population will follow a direct order without much question, given the person issuing the order appears to have the authority to do so. ...... It only takes a matter of seconds to organize a concerted team effort to aid the victim- because I am the responsible person. They are not accountable for their actions anymore in their minds, I am. This isn't civilization, it's gregarious herd instinct ;) ................................................. This isn't herd instinct; it's innocence & ignorance. If someone can recognize the situation for what it is and has knowledge of what is required, they will proceed to contribute according to their informed judgement. If they are not sufficiently familiar with the meaning of what they are facing, then they will be amenable to guidance or to the appearance of knowledgeable authority. If you seem to know what the right thing which needs to be done to correct a problematic situation, they will accept your commands; but if it is recognizable that you don't know what you are talking about or what is apropos, you will lose their following. Blanc

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BEST Inc.
by SGT=DARREN=S.=HARLOW%ISB%MCTSSA＠nwsfallbrook3.nwac.sea06.navy.mil 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I was in a BEST store yesterday, and attempted to pay by check. They asked for ID to verify the check and when I handed them my military ID, they asked for my driver's license instead. I gave them my driver's license and they used it and the magnetic strip on the back of it to verify my check. I noticed on their computer screen that it had all of my info, as in birthdate, address, driver's license number, the routing number for the bank I am with, and my checking account number. They also have notices up that say they index everything by your phone number. I asked them what they were using all of this information for, and they said for their marketing purposes. I was so ticked off that I took back the check, went to an ATM, pulled out cash, and went back and purchased the item with cash. I had to buy the item there, because nowhere else in the local area did they have the item. Just something to keep in mind. Sgt Darren Harlow - Computer Security MCTSSA, Camp Pendleton, USMC Internet: harlow%isb%mctssa(a)nwsfallbrook3.nwac.sea06.navy.mil Voice: Comm: (619) 725-2970 DSN (Autovon): 365-2970 Fax: Comm: (619) 725-9512 DSN (Autovon): 365-9512 "The views expressed are my own, and always will be..." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLbK2ZGNyHMOkIY2tAQH8rgP/dIC69wxXqdwFpnytRugV3UE/SqRgbQtZ Ufs58S+fs0baETNVD++Q5Dei17bdj4Qt0Mfewy5aXeP3p9+sZ25j3JSDmB07C6g3 6IHaWW0qqpeFsQuzhEb3zmVYizD/DLgTwle+Odc493+8gKHHy0YjAPV52SAVFb5+ o0vS0d99XZs= =bWBg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Force is not physical
by norm＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Can someone send me a copy of Eric Hughes Wednesday essay "Force is not physical"? I somehow lost the machine version.

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Graynet
by anonymous＠extropia.wimsey.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Do _not_ mess with those BlackNet folks. You'll wind up face-down Sounds like something the Nigerians would try. Nevertheless, I think there would be some value to a GrayNet. There's a difference between intelligence gathering and analysis on the one hand, and espionage on the other. Several businesses in the "competitive intelligence" arena operate quite openly. And of course, the major players like to work through proxies. A GrayNet would have the advantage of establishing the true value of closely-held information. Programming is turning into an "electronic sweat-shop" these days -- here's a chance to turn the situation around. Employers will not be able to afford to treat programmers as expendable, if by releasing them, they empower their competitors. The immediate problem is to find a data haven where the information will be secure from seizure. Info workers of the world unite! Your craniums are your capital! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCcAgUBLbUDoBL41rmHzZFFAQFvygQ43pXqAMWiGjzsutE8NDKnYXTiN+Z+o8KQ alsXwpRJBKy7KdnwJhE22CJIJqR91a8dXI1CvHdAFRPkbSWkqZJDTuAsanhqd8X6 OsyHwEP3kdWIeBgZht4GTy5kD8rkUIHCewxN7ocsRKg5wAn2MDk5yHqZN69+YNKh 7uCODChhUBxfHgGo5jk2 =uC+4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3a mQCVAi0lVxMAAAEEPAv9PwNYtn9nH/L72vqMC9b7qY9AMRY28u0PsCg/fqMpfXpG r5R3ceMOw9uQ4FBhk/BIeYXuSsv2Fn08Ft5zelEa+WJUyYy+68D04uqbmn8CBoHO d9Wkh3Amwutev31NV/18jRSG6kgxXGF3VVmES2aMj+BfMfW3XLWdkfeE5W6rEvjW uYfNkUUAB0O0CWFyZ29uIDxAPg== =fJR3 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: Warrantless searches -- A sign of things to come?
by Mike Rose 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There's another difference between dorms and public housing. Public housing is the tenant's home. In a dorm, the school is acting in loco parentis. That is, the school is acting in the position of a parent, which gives them considerably more latitude. Mike

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You Will...
by Robert A. Hayden 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded from rec.humor.funny. I found it oddly appropriate. --- [ This joke is the original work of Fred Wheeler and Jeff Sorenson (a hysterical conspiracy theorist). It is a parody of recent AT&T commercials that ask "Have you ever read a book from around the world?" and respond "You will, and the company that will bring it to you is AT&T." ] Have you ever received an automated sales pitch, while you were still in your pajamas? Have you ever had thousands of calls all over the world charged to your stolen account number? Have you ever had your paycheck deleted by faceless intruders from across the globe? Have you ever had an employer know more about your whereabouts and activities than your spouse? Have you ever been snuffed to dust by a satellite laser while lying on the beach? ______ | | | | | You | | | | Will | | | |______| And the company that will bring this to you is AT&T ----- Fred Wheeler wheeler(a)ipl.rpi.edu Jeff Sorensen sorenjs(a)pb.com -- Selected by Maddi Hausmann Sojourner. MAIL your joke to funny(a)clarinet.com. Attribute the joke's source if at all possible. A Daemon will auto-reply. Jokes ABOUT major current events should be sent to topical(a)clarinet.com (ie. jokes which won't be funny if not given immediate attention.) Anything that is not a joke submission goes to funny-request(a)clarinet.com -- ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden(a)krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) k

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