December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: PGP in FIDO
by Matthew B. Landry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>"Technically correct" versus pragmatics is often just a matter of whether [...] >P.S. Let me guess, despite the length of time that this issue has been >kicked around here, I'll get nailed for posting something that's not >apropos to cypherpunks. So let me point out how it is apropos: privacy. I think it's entirely appropriate as a discussion re:pragmatics versus law. That's exactly what the PGP in FIDO thread has been about lately. But you're right. We can think of more appropriate examples. -- Matthew B. Landry ml7694a(a)american.edu (Finally!) mbl(a)ml7694a.leonard.american.edu

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NPR?
by Christian Void 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Has anyone considered forwarding and/or send NPR an information packet to help bring the encryption/clipper issues to the general public, or is that looked upon as a bad idea? Christian Void /T71 | "I don't like it, and I'm sorry I | VMResearch, Inc. cvoid(a)netcom.COM | ever had anything to do with it." | P.O. Box 170213 Tel. 1+415-807-5491 | -Erwin Schrodinger (1887-1961) | SF, CA 94117 * PGP v2.3a Public Key Available Via Finger *

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Re: ITAR: Business?
by an36440＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>P.S. Heard on the news about how Syria is flooding us with near-perfect >counterfeit $100's? Complete with magnetic ink and security strip. Treasury >is scared green, and the CIA is helping to stop it. We need digicash now! Where did you hear of this? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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Re: troglodyte MIND RAPIST flames, take III
by doug＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mike Godwin <mnemonic(a)eff.org> said: >I'm beginning to feel like a virus. An interesting form of immortality. :-) Doug

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Re: PGP in FIDO
by doug＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Perry E. Metzger" <pmetzger(a)lehman.com> said: > This is why, for instance, the maker of a knife can't >be arrested because the knife is used to kill someone instead of >cutting bread. The law is actually reasonable. Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. I recall some years ago when bartenders were getting convicted for their patron's drunk driving accidents. One can't always count on laws being reasonable, and if they are, you still can't always count on courts interpreting them reasonably. Doug

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TEST
by Sandy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please ignore

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Re: a2 test
by doug＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

a2(a)ah.com (Arthur Abraham) said: >This message is steganographically encrypted to look like a test. With a bit of wrestling I was able to decrypt this. It's a compressed digitized image of Arthur; the background is out of focus, but it looks like Wendy's holding up an A-Squared logo. Looks like one of his test images from some years back. Amazing compression ratio. Doug

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Excessive Crap & Flamage
by Mike Ingle 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This list is becoming completely unreadable! First the POISON PILL and now PGP IN FIDO just seem to go on and on. And how many before that? (Troglodyte mind-rapists, etc) I've got about a meg of utter crap in my email file, most of it unread or skimmed. If people want to fight, why not do it in private mail, back up your positions, and then post your conclusions if you manage to come up with any. Please don't CC all your flames to the list. And please don't echo a three-page post to add one line of comments to it. What happened to all the idealism? Total privacy, cryptophones, digital cash, zero-knowledge cooperation, bringing down governments and setting the world free? That's what the list is for, not mindless flaming. Aargggh! MikeIngle(a)delphi.com

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POISON PILL WIMPS
by Sandy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT Reply to: ssandfort(a)attmail.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Punksters, I've just about had it with posts like Matthew Gream's: . . . attempting to play 'smart-ass' to your investigators is only going to result in more problems for you. Its a non-ideal world, and they definitely have the ability to cause you substantial problems. . . . I feel it is essential to show them everything that they think is there, and convince them (as they will not be as competent in cryptographic analysis as yourself [at least you hope]) that there is nothing hidden. Didn't any of you appeasers and apologists read and *understand* HACKER CRACKDOWN? Once you are the focus of an investigation, they are already causing you substantial problems. Cooperation only gives your tormentors more ammunition. You are not going to convince them of anything. You cannot talk your way out of anything. What you can--and will--do is dig yourself in deeper. After that, you will probably try to get off the hook by rolling over--like a bitch in heat--on your friends and associates. The ONLY thing that works is (a) stonewall, stonewall, stonewall until you get competent legal representation, then (b) do what your lawyer's says. Period. Consider this your wimp wakeup call. S a n d y >>>>>> Please send e-mail to: ssandfort(a)attmail.com <<<<<< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: TRAVELLER'S ADVISORY
by nobody＠alumni.cco.caltech.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:48 PM 10/1/93 -0400, Sandy wrote: > >I think this is a real danger for outspoken Cypherpunks or other >high-profile individuals such as Phil Zimmermann. Unfortunately, >I don't have any bullet-proof solutions. Suggestions? > > S a n d y Speak softly and carry a big magnet?

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