December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

NOW! Talk of the Nation is discussing lack of reporting of certain news topics
by Ernest Hua 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please try to call in between 12:00 and 1:00pm Pacific time to Talk of the Nation (1-800-989-TALK [8255]) to ask to talk about the lack of reporting on the EU's scuttled discussion of Echelon and NSA/FBI world wide spying! Ern

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RE: RE: IP: Fwd: Evaluation of Vehicle Stopping Prototype ("Kill Switch")
by Michael Motyka 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Kevin, Like it or not our society needs a police force. They have a dangerous and difficult job and I would never contend that the they should risk their lives unnecessarily. Furthermore, the 'suspect's' behavior is not defensible. But anyone who classifies a DOG as a HUMAN is DANGEROUS to other humans. > Definitely manslaughter, probably 2nd or even 1st degree murder. In That's FUCKING NUTS. Take the word manslaughter apart. int Screwball_Disney_Justice( int victim ){ int penalty; switch ( victim ){ case DOG : case MAN : penalty = ( MAX_PENALTY | BANKRUPTCY ); break; default : // covers consentual violations penalty = BANKRUPTCY; break; } return penalty; } > (I believe) every state the union the penalty for shooting a police > dog is the same as shooting an on duty police officer. Police dogs > are effectively classified as deputies. There are so many damn laws that anyone can be destroyed whenever the powers that be decide they're inconvenient. So you think a human should go to the gas chamber for killing a dog? Has the constitutionality of this been tested in any recent cases? What about the punishment fitting the crime? A few thousand bucks for a dog vs. a human life? I like animals and I think they should be treated with some respect but they are not people. My opinion of the incident was formed by the treating of a dog as human and the human as animal. BTW - what is your opinion of recent proposed laws banning the use of horses and dogs as food? A) Common sense. B) How could you eat such nice, smart animals? C) Tyranny of the Disneyfied majority. D) Total Bullshit. E) Both C and D. IMHO - E. What about cockfights? It usually lasts about 5-15 seconds and the loser becomes lunch. There is no *significant* difference between buying the chicken at the grocery and a cockfight. If you say that the difference is one of enjoying the violence - grow up. Just because the violence on the grocery store shelf is individually wrapped for your convenience doesn't alter its nature. Maybe we need a new law - a license to eat meat. Anyone who doesn't go through a course on killing their own meat should not be issued a carnivore permit with different stamps for different animal foods. Before you write the rant off as rambling crap the theme is - moronic personification and lack of perspective. Fuck Walt Disney - Because he's been fucking with our heads for decades. Every girl a princess, every boy a prince, every creature a human soul trapped in an animal's body. Mike rant, rant, rant...

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RE: Women cannot commit rape?
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> "You get hard right now or I take this knife and cut your > balls off sloooowly! You have one minute." > > That is probably out in left field. I doubt it would > happen much. No, and I doubt it would work either. However any man who thinks they cannot be coerced into arousal by other (physical) means is terribly sexually naive. This is the problem with puritan judges. Some madam needs to tie him up and show him exactly how easy he could be raped -- that is if he's not impotent too. Matt

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Censored news topic censored ...
by Ernest Hua 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear TOTN at NPR, This is most distressing. I was one of the very first callers to your Talk of the Nation show today whose topic was relevant news reporting in the US. My topic was the lack of reporting on the FBI's last minute sneak of the roving wire tap proposal into the intelligence budget bill. I wanted Ray to talk about the editorial process and how these things get dropped on the floor as this item is extremely important to our democracy because it is an agency charged with protecting our Constitutional rights (the FBI) who is deliberately circumventing the democratic legislative process to pass a law which was sounded defeated two years ago in open debate. Ironically, my topic was censored, and I waited an hour, while other people wanted to discuss things like how they can vent about their divorce difficulties through the Monica Lewinsky scandal, only to be dropped in the end. Would any of the NPR staff or Mr. Suarez would like to explain just what happened here? Ern -------- Ernest Hua, TeraLogic Inc, 1300 Villa St, Mountain View, CA 94041 (650) 526-6064, hua(a)teralogic-inc.com

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U.S. Group Sues To Stop Internet Pornography Act
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ts/story.html?s=v/nm/19981022/ts/porn_…

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Toto update...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I thought I'd post an update on my situation. I've been released from the Grand Jury in Nov. at this time. My affadavit was found to be sufficient. If further action on my part is needed I'll be contacted. As to posting the affadavit and such. I've been asked, and will comply, not to release the photo of Toto. I do intend to post the subepoena and the affadavit but only after Nov. and most likely not until after the new year and I'm sure the issues are reasonably resolved. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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No Subject
by nations＠freeyellow.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

10/22/98 Y2K Solution! 8 Pine Circle Dr., Silicon Valley, Calif. OTC Company "TCFG" 21 st. Century Frontier Group has through several members of their administrative research department leaked vital information about their companies efforts. Everyone was tight lipped and interviews were refused, and through un-named sources we have learned that the technology and software solution are in the process of being patented! In over 1640 trials, using various data systems the use of the new technology and software solved the Y2K problem 100% of the time. This small publicly traded company "TCFG" which is just 3 years old is through various sources now negotiating with the "Big Boys"! "TCFG" the letters to look for...

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> What is privacy? In the longwords of Toto the Manicgnificant (tm): The ability to say, "fuck off", and mean it.

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Women cannot commit rape?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Trees cannot be indicted for assasination -Bono Kennedy

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Re: Censored news topic censored ...
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Would any of the NPR staff or Mr. Suarez would like > to explain just what happened here? I'll take a stab: milk spills, people trip, shit happens. They probably didn't mean it. But who knows. -- Spy King Communications spyking(a)hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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