December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Logos here
by LOGOS 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sovereign collegues, I am Logos. I have adopted this pseudonym to conceal my 'true name'. I want the ideas which I shall be espousing to stand or fall on their own merits and not on the basis of biases that my name, sex, ethnicity, etc. might otherwise elicit. I hope my contributions to this list will be seen as positive by most list members. I intend to limit my postings to only two meta-topics: decorum and logic. In other words, the way we speak to each other and the quality of our argumentation. Decorum From time to time, I will 'call' posters on their intemperate use of rude or provocative language. I believe Cypherpunks should be a market place of ideas, not a forum for egos and insults. The two houses of the American congress have adopted rules of decorum. Members may be censored or expelled for personal attacks and verbal abuse of other members. This was mandated for a very practical reason. It was realized that insults, profanity, 'fighting words', etc. could get so out of hand that they could interfer with the legitimate work of the congress. While some might say that in the case of the congress, this would be a good thing, I believe in the case of Cypherpunks, it is a bad thing. I, therefore, call upon each Cypherpunk list members to personally adopt such a code of conduct for themselves. If Democrats can refer to Representative Gingrich as 'my esteemed collegue' and Republicans can talk about the 'honorable' Ted Kennedy, I see no reason that we cannot treat Tim May and Dimitry Vilus with similar respect and courtesy. What is at stake is far more important than egos. Cypherpunks defeated Clipper, but of late they have only defeated themselves. Logic The average reader of this list has sufficient education and intelligent to understand the most informal logical falacies. Yet one sees such falacies committed here with disapointing regularity. I will post definitions of the most common falacies and will use examples found on this list as illustrations. If we are to be persuasive among ourselves and with others, we need to be rigorous in our thought processes. I would be honored to hear your thoughts on this post. Logos out.

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Modulating the FM noise spectrum considered infeasible
by Timothy C. May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:30 PM +0100 11/29/96, Pavel Korensky wrote: >paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk wrote: >> >> I`m not entirely sure about the possibility of correlations in any of >> these sources but they aren`t really a good idea because all can be >> accessed by someone else. eg. Steal your random noise audio tape, >> sample dolby decoded sound at the same time as you etc. > >And what if I will use FM receiver, tuned on some channel where is the noise. >If the potentional attacker don't know the what channel was tuned, he is not >able to reproduce this IMHO. Of course, maybe it is possible to record the >whole >spectrum to tapes, but I think that the noise will change when recorded and >played back from tape. Not to mention the point that an external attacker--say, the NSA van parked across the street--will under no circumstances be able to measure "the" spectrum: his antennas cannot possibly measure the signals (at the lower bits) seen by the FM receiver, noise source local to the computer, whatever. (Obviously other SIGINT/TEMPEST methods might be able to read the bits in other ways, but this is a different issue. Ditto for black bag cryptanalysis, which is usually the most cost-effective approach.) Likewise, feeding the FM antennas with "special hiss" is implausible in the extreme. Again, the attackers don't know antenna responses, atmospheric and room geometry variations, etc. Even if the FM hiss were to be somewhat biased, the LSBs would have a fair amount of entropy....collecting and distilling this entropy would still be trivial. Yes, this is all obvious stuff. But it keeps coming up. Not even the NSA has the super powers to modulate the FM noise spectrum in a cost-effective way. Having said this, Johnson noise makes a superior noise source, if a physical source is desired. --Tim May Just say "No" to "Big Brother Inside" We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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[IMPORTANT NOTICE] Mercenne primes
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May studied yoga back-streching exercises for five years so he could blow himself (nobody else will). ' ' ' ' ^-O-O-^ -ooO--U--Ooo- Tim May

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test new web site
by Phiberelic Phreaker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Speedbumps
by jbugden＠smtplink.alis.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Zona Research Inc. Sun Wins China Internet Backbone Deal Sun Microsystems announced it has been chosen by China Internet Corporation (CIC) to provide equipment and technology for CIC's Internet/Intranet network for China -- the China Wide Web (CWW). Pursuant to a nonbinding memorandum of understanding, CIC intends to purchase $15 million of Sun servers and network security and management products, as well as Java computing technology. Expected to service 50 major Chinese cities, the CWW will enable companies within and outside of China to search, exchange, and promote business information and services. The significance of this deal goes beyond its face value in dollars. * We believe the CWW will assume the characteristics of a national Intranet*, becoming an important vehicle for Chinese communications and commerce. As a key supplier of technology to CIC, Sun gains a high profile status within China, which we believe gives Sun significant leverage on future Chinese Internet/Intranet deals. Overall, this deal provides Sun with a major inroad to the Chinese Internet market.

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RE: Modulating the FM noise spectrum considered infeasible
by James A. Tunnicliffe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> [...]Having said this, Johnson noise makes a superior noise source, > if a physical source is desired. > > --Tim May Yours makes NOISE? Impressive... In this case, I guess entropy is preferable to atrophy, though. :-) Tunny ====================================================================== James A. Tunnicliffe | WWWeb: http://www.inference.com/~tunny Inference Corporation | PGP Fingerprint: CA 23 E2 F3 AC 2D 0C 77 tunny(a)Inference.com | 36 07 D9 33 3D 32 53 9C ======================================================================

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Anyone considered adding crypto into Microsoft Outlook?
by Phillip M. Hallam-Baker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I've been playing around with the new beta of office '97. The main addition is a pretty nice integrated calendar, task list, address book and email doobrie. It just struck me that it would probably make the most convenient platform for integrating cryptography. After all MAPI is an open, extensible API allowing ready access to the email "hooks" necessary. The integration of an address book with the email system makes it very easy to add public key information into a person's entry. I'm not sure whether PGP or MOSS would be the most compatible format. Its quite possible that S/MIME would be more appropriate. It seems to me however that the main thing stopping the use of crypto has been the pretty weedy interfaces. I'm afraid the MH hacks just don't cut it. It seems to me that a downloadable plug-in would be very popular. I know a lot of lawyers who would jump at the chance to use email but realize they have to have crypto. The main problem so far seems to be the impenetrability of the MAPI documentation. Does anyone know of a usable reference or which of the gazillion Microsoft Developer network CDs one can find more information? Phill

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testing
by Phiberelic Phreaker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: The Good dr. Dobbs
by eva bozoki 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Fricker <jfricker(a)vertexgroup.com wrote: > It would appear that Ms. Bozoki would not purchase the product sheis creating! > In order to establish trust in an encryption product more is required than > simply agreeing that the company is competent. Competence does not imply > trustworthiness. Trust can be established through review and examination of > the innards, algo's and source code. A quick read of www.dsnt.com does not > reveal any additional information on the crypto used (other than it being > 512 byte public key algo using Diffie-Hellman key exchange) I would like to point out that our white paper with technical details can be found on our Web-site: www.dsnt.com/whitepaper.htm -- Dr. Eva Bozoki Chief Scientist DSN Technology, Inc. (516)467-0400

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PRIVACY: X-No-Archive and mail.cypherpunks
by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, This is primarily addressed to the person who supports cypherpunks mail-to-news gateway. If you know who such person is, please send his/her address to me. Dear gateway maintainer, Please modify your reposting program so that it does not remove the X-No-Archive: yes header line from email messages. This particular header line is an indication to USENET search engines that the author of the message would not like it to be stored in these engines. It preserves the author's privacy and enforces the copyright protection. I am opposed to seeing my articles showing up in DejaNews and other search engines. All my emails and usenet postings have this header line. However, when cypherpunks-to-newsgroup gateway reposts all articles, it strips this header line. I believe it to be a mistake and hope that it will be corrected. Thank you. - Igor.

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