December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Airport security [no such thing]
by Sandy Sandfort 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, On Thu, 23 Jan 1997 ichudov(a)algebra.com wrote: > Is it really true that my response was tossed out as flames? a) NO posts have been "tossed out." Your response was sorted into the "flames" list--not because it flamed directly, but because it was part of the threat started by Dimitri in which he engaged in flaming. b) While I realize this is a judgment call that others might dispute, I don't think it makes much sense to post to the moderated list only the parts of threads that are not flamish. I would rather keep thread intact on one list or the other. There are exceptions. I put one of Dimitri's post on this thread into the moderated list because the point he made did not require particular knowledge of the entire thread and had non-inflamatory relevance. > It was crypto-relevant. Perhaps, but crypto-relevance is NOT the criterion by which I am moderating the list. I am sort on the basis of (a) emotional, non-relevant personal attacks on list members, and (b) spam. I believe (and so far the postings have borne me out) that in an atmosphere of civil, reasoned discourse, the relevance issue will largely take care of itself. By the way, contrary to what Dimitri has alleged, I have posted every message from him in which he was able to restrain himself with regard to gratuitous insults and/or spam. In other words, the set of Dimitri posts that have appeared on the moderated list is not the null set. By the way number two, this response will be posted to the flames list and NOT the moderated list. Even though I have not flamed anyone, two things keep it off the moderated list: (1) my policy about keeping thread on the same list where possible (see above), and (2) basic precepts of fairness. Though Dimitri has stated-- without a scintilla of evidence--that my moderation policy would be used to attack him and not give him the opportunity or forum to defend himself, I am keeping ALL personal attacks off the moderated list. Those who are subscribed to the "flam" postings can see numerous unkind posts about Dimitri that I have not allowed on the moderated list. That policy applies to me just as much as to anyone else. S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Comments
by satan_is_a_hacker＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

All comments on my article will be welcome and replied to.

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Anyone have info on foreign "ITARS"
by Bill Campbell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone have any pointers to info about the import/export restrictions on encryption products in various countries. I know any such summary would be very dynamic, but perhaps there's something out there. Thanks! =Bill=

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Re: greed and the internet
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> The Internet will no no longer be the peoples net, and the > commercial greedies are establishing a faster, more secure > network with controlled access points; leaving the common man's > access in the mud, still paying the exorbitant rates on a pay > before play basis. That, and it gives control of information to > the government --which, as we all know. is 'heavenly white' > -above sin. > Rather than being forced by pressures from the market, smaller ISPs appear to be holding their own and in many cases thriving. A significant number of them have begun to form their own cooperatives to operate mini-NAPs, mosty to aggregate local traffic and reduce unnecessary traffic to the NAPs. It isn't too far a stretch to envision that should this practive become commonplace, these smaller ISPs could band together to create their own Net overlay, bypassing the NAPs. This trend could spell trouble for gov't agencies expecting to monitor Net traffic from only a few convenient locations (i.e., NAPs). --Steve

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Scandinavian Goverments provide PGP to postal customers...
by Hugh Daniel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FYI: >From: jsp(a)betz.biostr.washington.edu >Sent: Friday, January 24, 1997 2:31 PM >Subject: Meanwhile, back in the Free World... > > >Encrypted Email For Finns, Swedes, Danes > by Sami Kuusela > > 4:43 pm PST 23 Jan 97 - While keeping a watchful eye on the emerging > American encryption policy, Scandinavian countries are embarking > on a joint project to implement the first international email security > service. > > Nordic Post Security Service (NPSS) - involving Finland, Norway, > Sweden, and Denmark - hopes to provide secure email, and > officials say that soon every Nordic citizen can walk into the > nearest post office and sign up for it. > > But no matter the success of the secure email system, the NPSS > project is a clear sign that, unlike the United States, Northern > Europe is moving forward with exporting encryption technology > across national barriers. > > "Finnish policy has not been to start with regulations and fear of > Net issues," says Anu Lamberg, the head of the Information > Network Unit in the Finnish Ministry of Transport and > Communications. "The American discussion on this matter has > been funny to watch, but I hope nobody in Europe or Finland starts > to question the very basics of democracy." > > Based on PGP, with no "third-party" key holder, the Nordic system > uses unbreakable RSA-algorithm encryption with a 1024-bit key. > > However, some hardware is required. Because the key is on a > smartcard, users must have smartcard readers installed on their > computers, which aren't yet widely available. But Pdr Andler of > Finnish Hewlett Packard says that later this year, smartcard readers > will become standard on computers in Scandinavia. "It is a really > big help for users, who don't have to remember dozens of > passwords when using different kind of services," Andler says. > > The project has been moderately successful in Finland - the first > Nordic country to offer the secure email - as the system isn't any > more difficult to use than a standard email program. All the user > has to do is click "send." > > For project developers, using strong crypto was never an issue. > "From the very beginning we've been basing this on strong crypto," > says Vesa-Pekka Moilanen, technical director for Finland Post, and > mastermind of the email project. "At first, the customers are going > to be mainly professionals," he says, "but quite soon private > individuals will start using it." But the use of secure email probably > won't be widespread until 1998 - if then. > > "If strong crypto is banned it's going to have major effects on the > development of information society," says Risto Siilasmaa, the > CEO and president of DataFellows, one of the only makers of > encryption programs in Finland. The Finnish government awarded > DataFellows "most innovative company" honors in 1996. "But > nobody is going to limit strong crypto. I haven't met a single > leading Nordic official who says otherwise." > > One question, though: What if a Nordic citizen enters the United > States with the email program installed on his or her laptop? For > now, Nordic officials are only beginning to contemplate the > ramifications.

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Re: your mail
by tekmasta＠global.california.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Homo/bi/sexuals Most Destructive (fwd)
by no_one＠nowhere.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In article <199701250026.QAA13770(a)toad.com>, ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com (Jim Choate) wrote: > Much drivel about AIDS deleted. > > > One of the saddest commentaries on the entire problem is the > > man, a Pan-American flight steward, who was identified as carrier > > #1 by the Communicable Disease Center (CDC) in Atlanta; he died > > The correct term is 'Patient 0'. And the CDC is the Centers for Disease Control; and it has since found many, many prior cases of AIDS. These three minor errors are indicative of Attila's reliability of the subject. Of course, no one at CDC or NIH believes any of this crap; it was tired a decade ago. ObCrypto? How to implement RL anonymity protocols for medical treatment? (Of course I'm stretching it - but "carriers" were the *first* horseman.

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Re: Homo/bi/sexuals Most Destructive (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From satan_is_a_hacker(a)juno.com Fri Jan 24 22:06:53 1997 > Subject: Re: Homo/bi/sexuals Most Destructive (fwd) > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 22:57:52 EST > > YOU ARE BOTH WRONG THE CORRECT TERM IS INDEX CASE > >The correct term is 'Patient 0'. You are welcome to contact the CDC in Georgia and correct their terminology. I am shure they would appreciate it. http://www.cdc.gov/ Their webpage search capability is temporarily down so you might have to talk to a real person, Center for Disease Control and Prevention 1600 Clifton Rd., NE. Atlanta, GA 30333 404-639-3311 Jim Choate CyberTects ravage(a)ssz.com

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overview.htm
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

_________________________________________________________________ OVERVIEW OF HIV/AIDS _________________________________________________________________ Some important facts about the evidence that HIV causes AIDS are: * Tests for HIV antibody in persons with AIDS show that they are infected with the virus. * HIV has been isolated from persons with AIDS and grown in pure culture. * Studies of blood transfusion recipients before 1985 documented the transmission of HIV to previously uninfected persons who subsequently developed AIDS. Before the discovery of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), the virus that causes AIDS, epidemiologic studies of AIDS patients' sex partners and AIDS cases occurring in blood transfusion recipients before 1985 clearly showed that the underlying cause of AIDS was an infectious agent. Infection with HIV has been the only common factor shared by persons with AIDS throughout the world, including homosexual men, transfusion recipients, persons with hemophilia, sex partners of infected persons, children born to infected women, and health care workers who were infected with HIV while on the job, mainly by being stuck with a needle used on an HIV-infected patient. Although we know that HIV is the cause of AIDS, much remains to be known about exactly how HIV causes the immune system to break down. Scientists are constantly discovering more information about HIV and AIDS. These discoveries help people learn how to stop transmission of the virus and help people infected with HIV to live longer, healthier lives. One important question to answer is why some people exposed to HIV become infected and others do not. Scientists believe it is most likely because of how infectious the other person is and how they are exposed. For example, more than 90 percent of persons who were exposed through an HIV-infected unit of blood became infected. So we know that blood-to-blood contact is a very efficient way that HIV is spread. On the other hand, many health care workers are splashed with blood or bloody body fluids and this type of exposure has caused very few occurrences of HIV infection. Researchers know how HIV is spread and the ways that people can help protect themselves from being exposed to HIV. If you have questions about HIV infection and AIDS, please call the CDC National AIDS Hotline at the tollfree number, 1-800-342-2437. If you wish to write to CDC regarding this subject, please write to the CDC National AIDS Clearinghouse, Post Office Box 6003, Rockville, Maryland, 20849-6003. _________________________________________________________________ Back to HIV/AIDS Information Return to HIV/AIDS Information Back to DHAP home page GO BACK TO DHAP HOME PAGE (with graphics) (text only) _________________________________________________________________ Last Updated: June 13, 1996 Updated By: Technical Information Activity email: hivmail(a)cidhiv1.em.cdc.gov

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language drift
by Julian Assange 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

One of my projects involves tracking language drift; i.e the relative change in word frequency on the internet as time goes by. This is useful for predicting concept movement, and the anglisization rates of non-English language countries. Now, one day while browsing the frequencies from the 10 billion word corpus, what do I see? God 2,177,242 America 2,178,046 designed 2,181,106 five 2,189,194 December 2,190,028 ;) -Julian Assange <proff(a)iq.org>

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