December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Tim in Anguilla vs. USA
by Vincent Cate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The comparison of Tim as a US citizen ranting in California to Tim as a guest in Anguilla ranting in Anguilla is not really fair. If Tim were a French citizen in the USA, and ranting about crypto-anarchy and destabilizing governments on street corners (or communism or something), he *might not* get his visa/work-permit renewed in the USA. Tim is very safe in the USA partly because he does not have to get a visa renewed. If Tim were an Anguillian citizen I think it would be totally safe for him to rant in Anguilla either on the net or in person, about crypto-anarchy and destabilizing of governments or whatever. It would have no impact on getting a work-permit or visa renewed because he would not be doing that. Anguilla is not so very different in all this than the USA. The US decides not to renew some visa on a totally different level of evidence than that used to lock someone up in jail. And in Anguilla freedom of speech is officially guaranteed in the constitution but, like the US, pornography, is somewhat controlled. But I don't believe there is any danger of an Anguillian citizen getting troubled by the government for ranting. The big difference between Anguilla and the USA is that banks, by law, can not give out information to anyone, and there is no sales tax or income tax, and no need to report sales or income amounts to anyone. In the USA banks have to give anything the government wants to the government. The level of privacy in Anguilla is far higher than the USA. I know I am repeating this, but... -- Vince

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No Subject
by Bovine Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timmy Maypole is widely recognized on the net, because of his frequent vitriolic postings, as someone/thing ready to cut off his own penis to spite the testicles, although his friends recognize him better from the rear. ^. .^ ( @ ) c

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Anguilla is not Marxist!
by Vincent Cate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Charles: > The Minister of Finance in Anguilla is a nice guy, but > he did his graduate degree in economics at The New School for Social > Research here in New York City, which just happens to be attached to the > computer lab where I teach; and I know for a fact that the graduate > studies division is the last bastion of Marxist economic theory in > America. > [...] Of course, > the Anguillan Minister of Finance may have undergone a subsequent > philosophical conversion to the free market (just like Deng, right?) but > his country shows few signs of libertarian ideology; e.g. they have a > state-owned radio station, they haven't quite embraced the idea of > competitive bids for government projects, and they still have a > monopolistic phone service that has disabled all the pound and star keys > on island phones so that people can't save money using American call-back > services. Hold it right there! There is no Marxism or socialism in Anguilla. We don't even have income tax! They are not busy redistributing wealth here. They let you keep your own wealth in Anguilla. Get a clue! The current minister of finance is not at all responsible for the Cable and Wireless monopoly. It was the previous government that set them up and the current government is not happy about it. It is absurd to assume that since 20 years ago our Minister of Finance went to some school you are attached to, and you have noticed Marxists there, that he is anything close to a Marxist or to assume anything at all about Anguilla. After all, you are currently near this school, so by your logic you must have caught the infection too. Yet you claim to be a Libertarian. The USA had a monopoly phone company not that long ago. You might say that Anguilla is behind the US in terms of telecom policy. But to yell communism is totally nuts. Please. Be reasonable. -- Vince

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BBN
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The arrival of warm weather is heralded by the pig shit (or whatever kind of shit Intel swines have for brains) getting soft in Tim C. Mayonnaise's mini-cranium and the resulting green slime seeping through his cocaine- and syphilis- damaged nose and onto his keyboard. o/ \ / \ / / \o /# ##o # o## #\ Tim C. Mayonnaise / \ / \ /o\ / |\ / \

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Re: Anguilla
by Vincent Cate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Charles: > his country shows few signs of libertarian ideology; e.g. they have a > state-owned radio station, they haven't quite embraced the idea of > competitive bids for government projects, and they still have a > monopolistic phone service that has disabled all the pound and star keys > on island phones so that people can't save money using American call-back > services. I am going to have to check tomorrow and see about thse star and pound keys. It would amuse me if we had seen the birth of an urban legend. Anguilla vs USA 1) Income taxes Libertarian Socialist 2) Sales Taxes Libertarian Socialist 3) State owned radio Yes Yes 4) Competative bids Sometimes Sometimes 5) Pound keys that work ? Will check Yes 6) Reporting of finances Libertarian Totalitarian 7) Free Speech Yes, sort of Yes, sort of -- Vince

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Re: Wassenaar Arrangement
by Hayashi_Tsuyoshi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now I uploaded a short short memo of CATEGORY 5 PATR 2 of the Wassenaar Arrangement. http://www.barrier-free.co.jp/a2z/c/ CRYPTON/box1997/19970310-1-wassenaar-cat5.2.html If someone know (have) full text, please tell me. # To: Mr. John Young: # If your are OK, please add this to your crypto-concerned # lib. and redistribute on your web page. Thanks. ///hayashi P.S. Sorry for my delay job.

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MicroSoft Schill Blanc Weber EXPOSED!!!
by TOTO 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam Back wrote: > > Blanc Weber <blancw(a)microsoft.com> writes: > > Yikes - don't know how this happened, but it was I sent this email, not > > Uni, who is also not @sirius.infonex.com. > I suspect it's something to do with this (Microsoft mailers were the > bane of many mailing lists a while back): > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 > No offense, but Microsoft software is not my idea of quality -- it > seems Gates takes the attitude that he's got the market in a > strangle-hold so he can sell any crap and get away with it. Yes, but he's right. > I saw TV interview with him in which he claimed that "no one _ever_ > upgraded to a new version of his software to get a bug fix" -- instead > he claimed they upgraded to get "new features". He appeared serious. There are reports that his physicians have desperately pleaded with him to seek treatment for these delusions but he fears that if he does so, he may suffer reprecussions from facing reality. > The microsoft attitude to standards is annoying also -- what do they care > about rfc822? "The good thing about microsoft is that we set the standards, > and we can change them when we want to". quote from a microsoft > representative at a standards meeting. IBM had the same attitude for years, and were quite arrogant about it when they announced the computer of our future, the PS/2. "Napoleon was Emperor, "But still, he met his Waterloo. "IBM was King, but still, "No one bought their PS/2." "Now, stepping up to the plate... "A 'heavy hitter', named Billy Gates. "Who just can't hit the 'long ball', hence, "He has the umpires move the fence." "Billy G. is not a fool, "He's handsome, witty, smart, and rich. "His products may be weak, so what? "He owns the team, he gets to pitch." "Besides, someone, somewhere, sometime, "Will learn to make his products work. "While cussing out the big MS, "And calling Billy G. a jerk." "Then Billy G. will buy them out, "(Or steal a 'base', some would say) "One way or the other, though, "Billy G. will get his way." "MS does offer some support, "(Even though they have to bill you). "Then say, 'We could tell you how it works. "'But then, of course, we'd have to kill you.'" "So here I sit, broken hearted... "Bought Win95, the nightmare started. "Those who write on shithouse walls... "Know MS has them by the balls." "For a good time, call..." [ MODERATOR'S NOTE: ] The obvious degeneration of this slanderous poem into a babbling morass of shithouse wit comes as no surprise to those who righteously supported the attempt to protect the cypherpunks list from exactly this type of off-topic trash. I am certain that the other troublemakers on the list will be spreading rumors and lies concerning Toto's sudden disappearance, which I am sure will be noticed shortly. To set the record straight concerning the rumors that are bound to be surfacing, let me state that it is a known fact that the lunatic asylums in Saskatchewan often use vehicles bearing Washington State license plates. The witnesses who claim that the white-suited asylum employees had MicroSoft emblems on their uniforms were obviously confused by the similarities to the 'MindSoft' emblem of the Sanitarium (which was legally formed shortly after Toto's soon-to-be discovered mysterious disappearance). Rumors that Toto was subsequently murdered because he had actually gotten Win95 to work, and thus 'knew too much', are obviously tripe, since it is a well-known fact that nobody can get it to work properly. The lies that will be attempting to connect Toto's disappearance to tonight's MicroSoft/C2Net party are also false, since it has been in the planning for months. It's just that we (I mean...'they') forgot to send out the invitations earlier, so it only appears to be a hastily organized event. As to the hogwash spouted by Dale Thorn, and others, concerning some purported behind-the-scenes moderation/censorship of the cypherpunks list--this is patent nonsense. This 'Moderator's Note' that you are reading now is an obvious forgery--part of some sick, demented plan to continue to cast slander and libel upon MicroSoft and C2Net. It is a mere continuation of the shallow attempts of slimeballs and perverts to cast aspersions on saints like Bill Gates, John Gilmore, Sandy Sandfort, Greg Broiles, and my employer, Sammy, who only want what is best for everyone. [END OF 'ALLEGED' MODERATOR'S NOTE] "For a good time call...Toto" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix/xenbody.html

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Re: [IMPORTANT] Diffie-Hellman
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timmy May's obsessive masturbation has lead to advanced degree of blindness and hairy palms. /_/\/\ \_\ / Timmy May /_/ \ \_\/\ \ \_\/

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Re: Tim in Anguilla vs. USA
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:42 PM 3/8/97 -0400, Vincent Cate wrote: > >If Tim were a French citizen in the USA, and ranting about crypto-anarchy >and destabilizing governments on street corners (or communism or >something), he *might not* get his visa/work-permit renewed in the USA. >Tim is very safe in the USA partly because he does not have to get a visa >renewed. Were Tim a French citizen in the US who had worked for Intel and gotten a passel of stock, or founded Borland like French illegal alien Phillippe Kahn, he could say whatever he wanted without problems. He would only run into such problems if he was Palestinian. DCF

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Russophobia
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I saw a Usenet article that some Cypherpunks might like: "Seaford Int." <seaford(a)napri.sk> writes: > BE AFRAID OF NEW RUSSIAN ECONOMY BANDITS!!! > THEY ARE SLUT DANGER PEOPLE. > VOTE, NO MORE ENTRY FOR RUSSIANS TO CIVILIZATED COUNTRIES. > THEY ARE FUCKING, STUPID BUT VERY RICH IDIOTS WITHOUT MIND!!! > > WARNING!!!WARNING!!!WARNING!!!! > > WHO WANTS TO MAKE CONTRACTS WITH THESE KILLERS!!!! > ALL OF THEM WERE COMMUNISTS, NOW PSEUDOCAPITALISTS, BUT STILL KILLERS!!! > > And now for something crypto-relevant: I want to set up an easy-to-use, not necessarily very secure, anon server at dm.com. Can someone please send me some source code (or pointer thereto). (I mean, a system similar to what Julf used to have on anon.penet.fi, not mixmaster, etc - I know where these are.) --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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