December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Building the Singapore Free Press
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Suppose you wanted to build a free press for a country like Singapore that has a government that doesn't want one - on the net, from the inside and outside. What tools would you need? Assume a Firewall Curtain proxy that can block sites and keywords but can't really block encryption. Also assume that the ISPs inside the Firewall Curtain can't do much to help you, given government licensing and other threats. How can you help people communicate with each other without interference? The Web isn't a bad tool for it, but it's easy to block specific web sites and specific host machines, so you'd need some combination of replication and DNS-manipulation to let sites change names conveniently and frequently. Has anybody developed a good DNS mechanism for reassigning namespace conveniently (e.g. a meet-me system allowing any machine to connect up to a given name, so anybody who wants to can be foobar23.remailer.net)? There are web conferencing tools that would be a decent user interface. You'd need some mechanism for anonymous submissions; remailers and web-based forms both work. Journalists have a long history under pseudonyms in British colonies and other non-free territory :-) You'd need a mechanism for finding the news from inside SG; search engines like AltaVista can pretty much handle that except that you need a method for sending encrypted requests, so the Firewall Curtain can't block them and the government can't tell what you're searching for. Perhaps an SSL-protected form with a CGI to submit to AltaVista? Does anybody know the protocols of the Firewall Curtain well enough to slide things into the cache? (This is an httpd hacking question....) What other tools would be useful? # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> Reassign Authority!

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singapore and penet
by morgan＠keilin.helsinki.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There is a report in a Helsinki newspaper (Helsingin Sanomat 31 Aug 1996, p A11) that the Singapore government has asked Finland to help them obtain the name of a person who posted via anon.penet.fi to usenet. Apparently the messages in question criticize the strict laws in Singapore and were signed using the name of the former prime minister Lee Kwan Yew. -- ===================================================================== Joel.Morgan(a)Helsinki.FI http://blues.helsinki.fi/~morgan =====================================================================

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Re: anon.penet.fi closing down
by qut＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

! what would be alternatives to anon.penet.fi..... ! ========================================== ! Blake Wehlage <jwilk(a)iglou.com> ! ±» RëVðLû¡ØÑ Bø+ ©ÖmP@ñ¥ «± ! Goto: http://members.iglou.com/jwilk Gee, aren't you already using an account you started with fake personal data?

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WashPost report on airline security plan
by David Lesher 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Today's WashPost reports that one plan the new commission is studying is a massive Big Brother database of any&everyone boarding a plane. ""Suspects"" will then be subjected to extra attention. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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Waging War On Singapore
by qut＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

So what is the information that the Singapore dictatorship is trying to ban? Whatever it is, the Singapore internal networks should be flooded with it. How to get an internet account in Singapore, preferably anonymous?

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WARNING vIRuS!
by kickboxer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There is a new and VERY dangerous virus called the HAZ-MAT virus! it fucks up the sectors on your hd, and really messes up the partition tables. It does this once a week, picking a random time to do it. 99.9% of virus scanners and other antivirus programs will not recognize it, for it is a totally new strain, using a never before seen code.... Be warned! The HAZ-MAT virus usually resides in JPG, and GIF files... once the files are viewed, the virus takes effect. scan all images upon download!

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found the flight-800 missle thing
by Alan Horowitz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 22:51:33 -0800 From: Dan Robbins <kl7y(a)alaska.net> To: alanh(a)widomaker.com Subject: RE: Our old thread on airport security (fwd) >Return-Path: <cas(a)alaska.net> >Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:46:10 -0800 >X-Sender: cas(a)alaska.net >To: kl7y(a)alaska.net >From: Cas Gadomski <cas(a)alaska.net> >Subject: RE: Our old thread on airport security (fwd) > >>Return-Path: <jcs1(a)MAILNET.ho.ATT.com> >>From: jcs1(a)MAILNET.ho.att.com >>Original-From: jcs1(a)MAILNET.ho.ATT.com >>Original-From: "Schaefer, John" <jcs1(a)MAILNET.ho.ATT.com> >>To: "'Cas Gadomski'" <cas(a)alaska.net> >>Subject: RE: Our old thread on airport security (fwd) >>Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:32:38 -0400 >> >>Cas: >> >>As far as I know, PETN while often used as a detonator, is also a >>component of many initiators (a "booster" rather than a detonator--that >>is the detonator fires the larger booster charge, which fires the main >>charge) but it is also found as a main charge many weapons. >> >>Am not familiar with what we/"they" use as a bursting charge in SAMs but >>I would expect that they would use something with major blast >>capabilities like PETN. I've always like Octol for a big blast but >>there are all kinds of things out there now. As to fragments the >>message is right on target. One report from the crash sited frag damage >>of plane parts and some bodies but the subject never appeared in the >>press again. >> >>For air to ground against surface targets or tunnels NOTHING beats a >>fuel-air bomb. Next best thing to a nuke. (One story out of the Sandbox >>War relates a couple of British SAS folks observing from a distance a >>concentration of enemy when the USAF unloaded an FAE bomb on the target. >> The Brits called their HQ to report that the US had gone nuclear! >> >>Am still wondering about the "missile" theory. An errant SM-1 is highly >>unlikely, and Stingers and Strellas have a very small warhead (2-3 >>pounds) and the plane would have been at the far limit of their range >>even if fire from directly underneath. We may never know what happened. >> (One really way-out theory was that it as done in by a major SAM fired >>from a submarine by China/Iran/Iraq/Martians, etc. (take your pick). >>Next will be it was shot down by a particle beam weapon fired from a >>UFO. >> >>If I was a terrorist who wanted to do an airliner externally the best >>way would be to sit in a very small fiberglass boat about a half-mile >>off shore of JFK very late at night or very early in the morning (to >>avoid spectators) and get them with a Stinger/Strella on climb out. >>Toss the launcher overboard and paddle away. >> >>As to terrorist bombs in crowded places I still can't believe that some >>nut hasn't used dynamite and a couple of propane tanks--MAJOR bang >>there. A standard "home" size tank as used for cooking with a big >>initiator would probably clear a major mall. Very scary. >> >>As of late Sue and I avoid, if at all possible, crowded public places >>like malls, shopping centers, and theaters. They're disasters waiting >>to happen. >> >>As to sending obnox mail to the "postmaster"--yup, that works. >> >>If you want to really worry read Tom Clancy's new book "Executive >>Decision." >> >>Stout heart and good cheer, >> >>John >> >> >> >>>---------- >>>From: Cas Gadomski[SMTP:cas@alaska.net] >>>Sent: Friday, August 30, 1996 4:52 AM >>>To: Schaefer, John >>>Subject: Our old thread on airport security (fwd) >>> >>> >>>John . . . >>> >>>What do you think??? I'll forward any clarifications and/or updates >>>and >>>confirmations as I get them. >>> >>> Cas. >>> >>>>Return-Path: <kl7y(a)alaska.net> >>>>Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 18:20:13 -0800 >>>>X-Sender: kl7y(a)alaska.net >>>>To: cas(a)alaska.net >>>>From: Dan Robbins <kl7y(a)alaska.net> >>>>Subject: Our old thread on airport security (fwd) >>>> >>>>One problem with this. My friend at work who used to be in EOD >>>>said PETN is found only in detonators and occasionally in boosters, not >>>>in the explosives themselves. He said he knew of no US weapon or bomb >>>>that used PETN in the main charge See 6) below. If PETN is >>>>only in the detonator, then there would not be very much of it in any >>>>explosion. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Return-Path: <alanh(a)widomaker.com> >>>>>Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 19:41:05 -0400 (EDT) >>>>>From: Alan Horowitz <alanh(a)widomaker.com> >>>>>X-Sender: alanh@wilma >>>>>To: jennett(a)citicom.com, kl7y(a)alaska.net >>>>>Subject: Our old thread on airport security (fwd) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 14:51:54 +1300 >>>>>From: Joop Teernstra <terastra(a)TERABYTZ.CO.NZ> >>>>>Reply-To: Cebu Discussion List <CEBU-L(a)CEBU.USC.EDU.PH> >>>>>To: Multiple recipients of list CEBU-L <CEBU-L(a)CEBU.USC.EDU.PH> >>>>>Subject: Our old thread on airport security >>>>> >>>>>Dear fellow airtravellers, >>>>> >>>>>I think the following is relevant to a point I made at that last >>>>>discussion, >>>>>and I like to share it with you, even if some of you may have seen it >>>>>already: >>>>> >>>>>>Newsgroups: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater,alt.conspiracy >>>>>>Subject: Re: POSSIBILITY OF AN RBS 70 SAM ON TWA 800 >>>>>>Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 09:48:51 GMT >>>>>>Organization: The Scannerist >>>>>>Lines: 144 >>>>>>Message-ID: <4vrs85$3cp(a)ash.ridgecrest.ca.us> >>>>>>References: <011303Z25081996(a)anon.penet.fi> >>>>>>Reply-To: cheshire(a)ridgecrest.ca.us >>>>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: annex033.ridgecrest.ca.us >>>>>>X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 >>>>>>Xref: news.express.co.nz alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater:60503 >>>>>alt.conspiracy:198774 >>>>>> >>>>>>an623250(a)anon.penet.fi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>Very concise report. It is also interesting to note that you mention, >>>>>>"Tungsten, perhaps? " Tungsten pellets are not the only thing used by >>>>>>ground to air weapons. Sidewinder [Chaparral] is known to use an >>>>>>"expandable rod" war head. Also, a casing of FRANGABLE tungsten is >>>>>>being used in some weapons. This means that the case itself explodes >>>>>>into thousands of razor sharp pieces. So sharp that you could shave >>>>>>wih them. Bad news for anyone or anything within reach. :-{ >>>>>> >>>>>>>From: RONALD LEWIS <INTELLIGYST(a)WORLDNET.ATT.NET> >>>>>>>Subject: POSSIBILITY OF AN RBS 70 SAM ON TWA 800 >>>>>>>To: Multiple recipients of list FLIGHT-800 >>>>>>> <FLIGHT-800(a)HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM> >>>>>> >>>>>>>According to the 8-23-96 edition of the New York Times, residue of PETN >>>>>>>explosive has been confirmed on wreckage of TWA Flight 800. We now have >>>>>>>either a bomb or a missile as the cause. >>>>>> >>>>>>>PETN is said to be a component of missile warheads as well. >>>>>>>Interesting how >>>>>>>that was mentioned in all of the news reports tonight on various networks >>>>>>>and even local TV. Now that the investigators have concluded that it >>>>>>>definitely was a bomb or a missile, they are supposedly going through and >>>>>>>trying to collect evidence to indicate which it was. >>>>>> >>>>>>>Two things highly significant: 1) Weeks ago, a reliable source >>>>>>>advised me >>>>>>>that the investigators were not worried about explosive residue fading in >>>>>>>salt water because they had other evidence. Components of a missile, >>>>>>>perhaps? Couldn't say. >>>>>> >>>>>>>2) Same source told me the other day that the investigators were now >>>>>>>conducting "metalurgical studies", i.e., they were looking for and >>>>>>>analzying certain types of metal. Tungsten, perhaps? Bombs don't >>>>>>>contain >>>>>>>tungsten but SAM warheads are often surrounded by tungsten balls or >>>>>>>pellets. >>>>>>>They help cut the metal skin of their target aircraft. >>>>>> >>>>>>>OTHER NOTES: >>>>>> >>>>>>>1) Rocket motor of a missile would be capable of touching off a fire in >>>>>>>nearby fuel tanks. An Exocet missile sank the destroyer SHEFFIELD >>>>>>>in the >>>>>>>Falklands War without the warhead even detonating. The missile cut >>>>>>>through >>>>>>>the hull, severed fuel lines and the rocket motor touched off the spilled >>>>>>>fuel, causing a fatal fire. >>>>>> >>>>>>>2) Something ejected the air conditiioning plant in the first >>>>>>>debris field. >>>>>>>What would blow out the missing bottom of the aircraft center without >>>>>>>collapsing the internal structures, then manage to blow the forward >>>>>>>fuselage >>>>>>>off, rip away the right side of the fuselage and cause burn marks >>>>>>>there and >>>>>>>in the adjacent wing? A titanic explosion which quickly ripped the >>>>>>>fuselage >>>>>>>apart faster than Pan Am 103 went. >>>>>> >>>>>>>3) The sound on the cockpit voice recorder is different from any >>>>>>>other they >>>>>>>have heard before on two other 747s downed by bombs (Pan Am and Air >>>>>>>India). >>>>>>>Perhaps the sound was not caused by a bomb? It seems we have only a >>>>>>>bomb or >>>>>>>a missile left at this point. If it's not a bomb, then....? >>>>>> >>>>>>>4) Nose gear damaged in its hold. Nose gear door gone. Right side >>>>>>>forward >>>>>>>cargo hatch blown off in first field. The doors and AC unit located >>>>>>>together. How does a bomb inside the center fuselage do such damage >>>>>>>to the >>>>>>>nose gear area? It doesn't seem possible. However, an external >>>>>>>blast and >>>>>>>shock wave would be consistent with this, especially if it initiated >>>>>>>at the >>>>>>>left rear and traveled forward, rippling along the bottom of the >>>>>>>aircraft. >>>>>>>It would be very interesting to note if the nose gear door found in >>>>>>>Area #3 >>>>>>>(the "first" debris field, that closest to JFK) happens to have been from >>>>>>>the right side. >>>>>> >>>>>>>5) Latest pieces of wreckage with fuselage stringers and stiffeners >>>>>>>AGAIN >>>>>>>show at least subtle evidence of an external explosion rippling the outer >>>>>>>fuselage inward. Look at the video of all outer hull sections recovered. >>>>>>>The outer skin is pushed inward around the stringers. If it had been an >>>>>>>internal bomb, the metal would be almost universally bowed OUTWARD >>>>>>>away from >>>>>>>the stringers and ribs. But they aren't. In virually every case I have >>>>>>>seen so far, the sheet metal is not pulled AWAY from the stringers. They >>>>>>>may be popped loose but even in those rare cases, the indentations on the >>>>>>>outer skin make it appear as though the stringers have been pushed inward >>>>>>>away from the outer sheet metal, not as though the steet metal had been >>>>>>>pused outward away from the stringers. >>>>>> >>>>>>>6) If a bomb, why so little PETN? Why isn't it virtually >>>>>>>everywhere? Pan >>>>>>>AM 103 HAD lots of it even though the bomb went off contained in a cargo >>>>>>>bin. What would account for so little PETN in this case? >>>>>> >>>>>>>A proximity fuze detonation of a missile would touch off the blast >>>>>>>outside >>>>>>>the aircraft. Kinetic energy would still send a large portion of it into >>>>>>>the aircraft, penetrating it and passing through, but most of the >>>>>>>explosive >>>>>>>residue would burn away or dissipate outside of the aircraft. If >>>>>>>they can >>>>>>>find fragments of the 747 underbelly and subject them to tests, I >>>>>>>strongly >>>>>>>believe they will find higher concentrations of both PETN residue and >>>>>>>tungsten fragments embedded in the metal. >>>>>> >>>>>>>If this was a bomb, it had to be enormously powerful, skillfully >>>>>>>planted or >>>>>>>just unfortunately "lucky." The entire bottom of the plane around the >>>>>>>center wing box is said to be missing but, bewteen the passenger >>>>>>>cabin and >>>>>>>the outer surface of the bottom of the plane is some of the most robust >>>>>>>construction known to exist on the 747. How is it, then, that that the >>>>>>>"device" was able to blow off the front of the fuselage, blow away >>>>>>>at least >>>>>>>the right side of the fuselage, then make it past the heavy-duty >>>>>>>wings and >>>>>>>AC unit to shread the bottom of the plane into fragments so small >>>>>>>they may >>>>>>>have to dredge to recover them? >>>>>> >>>>>>>It seems that only a missile could rip away the bottom exterior upon >>>>>>>contact >>>>>>>to blast away the AC unit lying right above that area. As the hot >>>>>>>remains >>>>>>>of the missile body continue into the aircraft, they could tear open the >>>>>>>center fuel tanks and, with the compression of air and kinetic >>>>>>>energy, blow >>>>>>>out the right side and cause separation of the forward fuselage. The >>>>>>>thousands of tungsten fragments and the armor-piercing capability of >>>>>>>the RBS >>>>>>>70 would surely be capable of such incredible damage. It has destroyed >>>>>>>light armored vehicles when fired in the air-to-ground mode, so it >>>>>>>shouldn't >>>>>>>be hard to imagine it doing severe damage to the thin skin of a >>>>>>>pressurized >>>>>>>airliner hull at 13000+ feet. >>>>>> >>>>>>>And there are precedents for using SAMs against airliners and civilian >>>>planes. >>>>>> >>>>>>>In the former Soviet Republic of Georgia, airliners were being used >>>>>>>to ferry >>>>>>>out refugees and to bring in weapons and supplies during the civil >>>>>>>war with >>>>>>>Abkhazian separatists. SAM gunners, in boats out on the Black Sea, are >>>>>>>known to have shot down at LEAST two airliners as they approached >>>>>>>and took >>>>>>>off from Sukhumi, Georgia. >>>>>> >>>>>>>In April, 1995, a Falcon executive jet carrying the president of >>>>>>>Rwanda was >>>>>>>on final approach to Kigali airfield in the capital city of Rwanda >>>>>>>when it >>>>>>>was shot down by a shoulder-fired SAM (RBS 70 is NOT shoulder-fired >>>>>>>but is a >>>>>>>MANPAD, or man-portable system mounted on a pedestal mount). >>>>>> >>>>>>>It has happened before, it may have happened with TWA 800. Now, what >>>>>>>measures do we take to make sure it doesn't happen again? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Ron Lewis >>>>>>>CHIEF MILITARY & AVIATION ANALYST >>>>>>>THE INTELLIGYST GROUP >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--***ATTENT >>>>>>>ON*** >>>>>>>Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically* ANONYMIZED. >>>>>>>Please, report inappropriate use to abuse(a)anon.penet.fi >>>>>>>For information (incl. non-anon reply) write to help(a)anon.penet.fi >>>>>>>If you have any problems, address them to admin(a)anon.penet.fi >>>>>> >>>>>>Dr Pepper >>>>>>10 - 2 - 4 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Uh, oh! >>>>>Joop Teernstra >>>>>http://serve.com/terastra >>>>>If you want to make up your mind about an argument, see who attacks the >>>>>person, rather than the matter at hand. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>* CEBU-L DISCUSSION LIST * Comments/Complaints, write: >>>>>ADMIN(a)CEBU.USC.EDU.PH >>>>>To unsubscribe, write: LISTSERV(a)CEBU.USC.EDU.PH w/ body text: SIGNOFF >>>>>CEBU-L >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >

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Moscowchannel.com hack
by Joel McNamara 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Not really crypto, but related to the DOJ hack in a way. Moscow Channel is a pretty slick, Russian news/commentary page. Their Web site was hacked and altered by someone who didn't seem to like Russians all that well. See: http://www.moscowchannel.com/ While not as elaborate as the DOJ hack, it's interesting that Web page vandalism is starting to turn into a unique form of protest and social commentary. As Web sites with security holes increase, my guess is vandalism will increase incrementally. Both in terms of random graffiti, and targeted attacks. Just a matter of time before some builds a dedicated Satan type tool that scans for HTTP server holes or messed up file permissions to make locating potential victims easy.

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Re: Code Review Guidelines (draft)
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:58 AM 8/29/96 -0500, Igor wrote: >The decision that have just made is not a technical decision, it is >a business decision. You just decided that the needs of security >outweight the need to be able to deal with 100% of potential customers. I strongly agree. You've also potentially annoyed a bunch of Europeans, Unicode-speakers, and other users of non-ASCII alphabets. Just because the domain name in somebody's address is case-insensitive (and culturally-insensitive :-) ASCII, that doesn't mean their user name will be also, especially if their _real_ mail system is some ugly proprietary thing like Microso-Cc:PR0FS-HS.400 or if their name is Swedish or Chinese. > ..... X.400 ..... /OU=foo/O=bar/C=KREV/ (X.400 may be evil, but it does exist :-) > [ ! is almost dead ] ! is still around, especially for gateways to proprietary mail systems. You also need to add colon : and maybe comma , . # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> Reassign Authority!

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mailing lists
by patrickbc＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If any body knows any good mailings lists please tell me. -P. Cummings- Patrickbc(a)juno.com

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Below-bit-level encoding
by Dale Thorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone have info or know of a text source on less-than-bit-level file preparation? I presume the crypto techniques would be the usual stuff; I'd like to dig into bit deconstruction a little, and a text which has a chapter or more devoted to this and other esoteric file processing would be helpful. Note that this is not substitution or bit-packing or whatever. Thanx.

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Re: DON'T Nuke Singapore Back into the Stone Age
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:35 AM 8/31/96, Arun Mehta wrote: >There are two sides to this: after all, it is the Singaporeans who finally >have to sort out this problem with their government, and denying them >the Usenet platform for discussion would only hinder that process. The point is to make clear to them that the Usenet and similar Web sites are global in nature, not subject to censorship without a very high local cost. If discussions of Lee Kwan Yew's dynasty are considered illegal, then Singaporans will have to choose not to carry the various newsgroups into which *I* post such messages! (This was done by many of us during the Karla Homulka and Teale trial in Canada a couple of years ago: Canada imposed press restrictions on discussion of the trial and the grisly evidence...and then was chagrinned to find that the global Net did not adhere to their notions of what should and could be discussed. They even seized copies of "Wired" at the border, very much akin to Singapore's stone age policies.) >Then again, inappropriate postings are the bane of the Internet: the consensus >on which the Net functions relies heavily on people not posting >inappropriately. This works imperfectly, as all long-time surfers of the Usenet will attest! And _never_ has it involved determinations of "inappropriate" by _governments_! Our point in protesting Singapore's actions (and Germany's, France's, America's, India's, etc., in other cases) is to technologically subvert their notions that their politicians can determine what the Net, Web, and Usenet carry. To be blunt, if Singapore wants to stop me from discussing the dictator Yew and his feeble son, they can't. Except by pulling the plugs on forums in which my posts are carried. I consider this a Good Thing (that politicians in Country A generally have no power to tell citizen-units in Country B what they can say and what they can't). The point of being sometimes "impolite" (*) is to "force their hand." (* I find it Orwellian that being "polite" is taken to mean not saying anything controversial. It was impolite for Salman Rushdie to write "The Satanic Verses," is was impolite for people to mention Karla Homulka in talk.politics.canada, it was impolite to point out that the prime minister of India drinks a glass of his own urine every day, it was impolite to refer to Bill Clinton's dalliances with Paula Jones, and so on. In a free society, all things are discussable. That various countries want to make the Net less free is not something we should support, even if it is more "polite" to accede to the wishes of their dictators, secret policemen, demagogues, preachers, and henchmen.) --Tim May -- [This Bible excerpt awaiting review under the U.S. Communications Decency Act of 1996] And then Lot said, "I have some mighty fine young virgin daughters. Why don't you boys just come on in and fuck them right here in my house - I'll just watch!"....Later, up in the mountains, the younger daughter said: "Dad's getting old. I say we should fuck him before he's too old to fuck." So the two daughters got him drunk and screwed him all that night. Sure enough, Dad got them pregnant, and had an incestuous bastard son....Onan really hated the idea of doing his brother's wife and getting her pregnant while his brother got all the credit, so he pulled out before he came....Remember, it's not a good idea to have sex with your sister, your brother, your parents, your pet dog, or the farm animals, unless of course God tells you to. [excerpts from the Old Testament, Modern Vernacular Translation, TCM, 1996]

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Re: Code Review Guidelines (draft)
by qut＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

! Dave Harman OBC wrote: ! > ! > ! At 09:58 AM 8/29/96 -0500, Igor wrote: ! > ! >The decision that have just made is not a technical decision, it is ! > ! >a business decision. You just decided that the needs of security ! > ! >outweight the need to be able to deal with 100% of potential customers. ! > ! ! > ! I strongly agree. You've also potentially annoyed a bunch of Europeans, ! > ! Unicode-speakers, and other users of non-ASCII alphabets. ! > ! Just because the domain name in somebody's address is case-insensitive ! > ! (and culturally-insensitive :-) ASCII, that doesn't mean their user ! > ! name will be also, especially if their _real_ mail system is some ! > ! ugly proprietary thing like Microso-Cc:PR0FS-HS.400 or if their ! > ! name is Swedish or Chinese. ! > ! > Agreed, the DNS and other systems should be upgraded to 8bit. ! > Unix should also allow / in file names, it can be escaped somehow. ! ! It is not possible. Oh, every value can be escaped, there's no reason that the full 8bit range cannot be incorporated throughout every operating system. It's just legacy junk which keeps us putting up restrictions in everything that we really don't want. Ditto for network software.

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Mailings lists looping
by bf578＠scn.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The current issue of the RISKS digest has a couple of submissions about this issue (incluing one from Brent Chapman, majordomoman) It can be found at: http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/18.39.html -- ------------------------------------------ There are no facts, only interpretations. I always wanted to be somebody,

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gopher://gopher.npr.org...1996/Jul.96/fa.07.31.96
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

gopher://gopher.npr.org:70/00/NPR_Online/Programs/FreshAir/Fresh_Air_Rundown s/1996/Jul.96/fa.07.31.96 Washington Post investigative reporter JIM McGEE. He has co-written with Brian Duffy the new book "Main Justice: The Men And Women Who Enforce The Nation's Criminal Laws And Guard Its Liberties." It's published by Simon and Schuster. The book is about the changing role of the U.S. Justice Department. As the fears of terrorism increase, Congress and the White House are giving the Justice Department more investigative powers and a wider jurisdiction which includes actions in foriegn countries. McGee warns in the book that along with the apparent protection this could provide Americans it could also erode individual liberties. McGee shared a 1987 Pulitzer Prize for a series of stories on the Iran Contra Affair. McGee lives in Virginia.

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hackers texts
by patrickbc＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If any of you hackers out their have wrote any texts for beginning hackers or know of any please send them to me at patrickc(a)juno.com thank you P. cummings Patrickbc(a)juno.com

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Los Angeles Times article on Helsingius and anon.penet.fi
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The attached article was reposted to fight-censorship with the permission of the Los Angeles Times, which ran it on the front page today. It's a good story. Compare it to the Reuters dispatch, which yowled about child porn but didn't even mention threats from the Church of Scientology: >Finn To Close Net Remailer After Child Porn Claim > >HELSINKI - A Finnish Internet specialist said today he's closing his >remailer, or anonymous forwarding system, after rejecting allegations >it was being used as a conduit for child pornography. [...] Note Esther Dyson's comments: "The damage that can be done by anonymity is far bigger" than in any other medium, said Esther Dyson, chairwoman of the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "In the end, you need to be able to get at somebody's identity to enforce accountability, and the question is how do you also enforce freedom of speech and freedom from prosecution for unpopular opinions." Also, on the "Mick Williams Cyberline" radio show I was on this afternoon, we heard an unconfirmed report that Helsingius is suing the Observer, but I haven't seen it on the wires yet... -Declan --- Los Angeles Times Saturday, August 31, 1996 Internet Figure Pulls Plug (- 0p9) on His Anonymity Service (- 0p6) By AMY HARMON TIMES STAFF WRITER Byline ends here. Johan Helsingius, an Internet icon who for 3 1/2 years has championed anonymous communication over the global computer network by running a service that makes it possible, pulled the plug Friday on the machine known as anon.penet.fi. Civil liberties advocates said the move, prompted by a Finnish court decision that the anonymity of the service could be breached by court order, raised serious concerns about the future of anonymous speech on the rapidly growing network. A strong privacy ethic has prevailed on the Internet since its early days as a tool for academics and the military. The network was largely self-policed, and anonymous services--including Helsingius'--explained to users that they were not to be used for criminal activity, otherwise they would get shut down. But the recent explosion of electronic commerce and community has raised the stakes. Law enforcement agencies, as well as anti-pornography advocates and many others, maintain that total anonymity provides too much shelter for a variety of criminal activities. Based in Helsinki, the Finnish capital, Helsingius' service was the biggest of its kind in the world, with more than half a million users and with 7,500 messages passing through it each day. Frequent users included suicide counseling groups, human rights organizations and "anyone who wanted to discuss anything without their neighbors and employers looking on," Helsingius said. The amorphous structure of the Internet, which ignores international boundaries, means that users throughout the world will be affected by the shutdown. They will be offered the option of revealing their true identities or finding another service--there are about 40 others worldwide. The idea of an anonymous remailer is to protect the confidentiality of its users' identities. When a piece of e-mail was sent to anon.penet.fi, its identifying information was stripped off and a code number was substituted. The message was then forwarded to the individual, mailing list or discussion group for which it was intended. The only link between the real and assumed identity resided on the computer in Helsingius' home. More sophisticated remailers use encryption software to create a new identity and route messages through a string of several computers around the world, never recording the transactions. That way no individual operator has a record of the original sender. But Helsingius' service was notable because it allowed others to respond directly to the sender via the pseudonym on anon.penet. It also did not require any special software programs--and it was free. * In a telephone interview Friday from Helsinki, the 35-year-old Finn--known by his e-mail handle, Julf--said he was discouraged by the court's interpretation of the communication privacy laws in a case that involved a petition from the Church of Scientology, which wants Helsingius to reveal the identity of an individual who is alleged to have posted its copyrighted material on the Internet through Helsingius' remailer. "The court made it quite clear that the privacy of electronic mail isn't covered in Finland anymore," Helsingius said. "I would be running to the courtroom all the time because the suspicion of a crime, however minor, would be enough grounds to get a court decision to have the sender revealed. What's the point?" The Scientologists' petition underlines the heightened threat--and potential benefit--of anonymity on the Internet. While anonymity is possible via traditional mail or over the telephone, the Internet provides far greater reach for far less cost than any other medium, and it is technically much harder to eavesdrop upon. Helsingius, who has run the remailer in his spare time, has for three years been fending off requests from law enforcement authorities to discover the identity of his users. He was forced last February to provide Finnish authorities with the name of a user who was alleged to have broken into the church's computer to steal copyrighted information. The legal protection for digital anonymity has not yet been tested in U.S. courts, but Internet legal experts expect that it will be soon. The American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia is currently seeking to restrict the application of the new Georgia Computer Systems Protection Act, which broadly prohibits the use of pseudonyms on the Internet. The issue of how to deal with anonymity is a crucial one for those trying to establish the medium as a place to work, play and live in the coming decades. Internet-spawned activists such as the Cypherpunks argue that the system will collapse without a guarantee of secure and private communication. And advances in cryptography have made that, for the most part, technologically possible. But other Internet enthusiasts disagree. * "The damage that can be done by anonymity is far bigger" than in any other medium, said Esther Dyson, chairwoman of the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "In the end, you need to be able to get at somebody's identity to enforce accountability, and the question is how do you also enforce freedom of speech and freedom from prosecution for unpopular opinions." Anonymous services have in fact been used for "mail-bombing"--crashing computer systems by overloading them with e-mail--and for obscene postings to discussion groups that are tantamount to broadcasting obscene phone calls. Anti-pornography advocates have also begun to target anonymous Internet services, which they blame for enabling the easy distribution of illicit material over the network. Last week, in a front-page headline, the London weekly newspaper the Observer called Helsingius "the Internet middleman who handles 90% of all child pornography." Helsingius says the sensational article had nothing to do with his decision, but he is clearly tired of the situation. Most anonymous remailers, included anon.penet.fi, he says, filter out the transmission of large image files that are likely to contain pornographic pictures. "I have personally been a target because of the remailer for three years. Unjustified accusations affect both my job and my private life," he said. After setting up his server so that it can be used on a limited basis by certain nonprofit groups, Helsingius plans to set up a task force to discuss the practical problems related to ethical and civil rights issues on the Internet. Meanwhile, many Internet denizens mourned the passing of anon.penet on Friday and hailed Helsingius as a "net.hero." "This is a sad day in the history of the Net," wrote Declan McCullagh, who runs a widely distributed electronic mailing list called "fight-censorship." "Hundreds of thousands of people had accounts on Julf's pseudonmyous server and many netizens relied on it daily to preserve their privacy online." "[Helsingius] has done a lot of good work. He's been attacked on all sides, and he's hung in there," said Sameer Parekh, founder of Community Connexion in Berkeley, which hopes to build a business out of providing anonymous remailer services. "It's too bad that he had to shut down. But we believe there's a demand for anonymity, and use of these systems is only going to increase." BACKGROUND Anonymous remailers make it possible to send messages over the global Internet computer network without revealing who or where they come from. Anyone with an Internet account can contact a remailer service and register for an account. Then, when sending electronic mail or posting messages to an electronic discussion group, the subscriber addresses it to the remailer as well as to the final destination. The message travels to the remailer computer, which automatically strips off the originating name and address and forwards it to the final destination. Some remailers also allow the recipient of an anonymous message to respond anonymously, so that the entire exchange is "double-blind." Copyright 1996, Los Angeles Times ###

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Re: DON'T Nuke Singapore Back into the Stone Age
by James Erickson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

how do i get off this list?

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No Subject
by James Erickson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

list

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Re: Below-bit-level encoding
by James Erickson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

how the hell do i get of this list?

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Re: Esther Dyson on Remailers
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:52 AM 9/1/96 -0400, Dave Farber wrote: >EFF does not, to my knowledge, (and I am a Board Member) have an >organizational view on this issue. There are a lot of different views and >each member of EFF has their own view that they can and will state as >private people. The tendency of the Press to label people with organizations >affiliation ship gives the impression of organizational views. For example I >certainly don't speak for the University of Pennsylvania when I say thing to >the newspapers. > >Dave > At CFP in '95 in SF, Esther expressed the view that there was a place on the Net for an anonymous ghetto (my words not hers) where people could be anonymous but that most of the net would involve traceability of transactions so that people could be held accountable and that businesses and individuals would want to know who they were dealing with for payment and accountability reasons. I am not stating her position well I'm sure but it was clear that she thought that non-anonymity would be the rule not because it was mandated but just because Net actors would want it that way. A short quote would not allow anyone to understand her full position. If she believes that anonymity would be rejected voluntarily for practical reasons then that is just a prediction of a market not a conclusion. Most on this list would have no objection to making a prediction though we might disagree with it. Just as Esther predicted that the net would end copyright, we might predict that the net combined with immediate settlement payment systems might reduce if not eliminate the need for "positive ID." DCF

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Re: FC: The end of an era: anon.penet.fi shutdown, Stockholm conf
by attila 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Addressed to: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)eff.org> Cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> = The shutdown of anon.penet.fi marks an end of an era -- and perhaps it was = inevitable. [--snip--] = But the closure isn't a permanent loss to the Net. The concept behind = deploying anonymous remailers is that [--snip--] = ...they're temporary and expendable -- if one government attacks a = remailer, another appears in another jurisdiction. [--snip--] it was = time for Helsingus' remailer to go offline. It had served its purpose. = Declan: I think you are missing the most import service that Johan Helsingius provided: a means of anonymous corres- pondence with services for victims of child abuse, domestic violence, alcholism, etc. *** people who needed to reach out to someone *** I fully subscribe to the Cypherpunk remailers, particu- lary MixMaster and Middleman, but they do not serve this purpose. However, maybe as part of social responsibility, we should provide one or more remailers with databases --and EXCLUDE addressing except to the help lines. and, of course, make it easy enough for the victims to request additional addresses. yes, it may take a little effort to upgrade the target addresses, etc. but it should be done. noone knows what the courts will rule on any matter of privacy with Bubba at the helm, but correspondence to shelters and the like has been adjudicated off-limits to FOI, etc. I will speak to several ISPs, and if one of them will permit me to accept the "responsibility," I will initiate one. I have no problem defending it legally. attila -- Now, with a black jack mule you wish to harness, you walk up, look him in the eye, and hit him with a 2X4 over the left eye. If he blinks, hit him over the right eye! He'll cooperate --so will politicians.

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Cypherpunks Lite
by youssefy＠ucla.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There was a posting by someone about three weeks ago that gave the address for a person who ran a filtered version of the cypherpunks list, can someone please repost that information?

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SNAKEOIL? Top Secret for Windows
by frogfarm＠yakko.cs.wmich.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: sk510019(a)mail.idt.net (Siva Krishna) Newsgroups: comp.archives.ms-windows.announce Subject: tsecret.zip - TOPSECRET!: Easily encrypts any file. Message-ID: <9608312039.cg4898(a)Simtel.Net> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 20:39:29 GMT I have uploaded to Simtel.Net: http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win3/security/tsecret.zip ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win3/security/tsecret.zip 12070 bytes tsecret.zip TOPSECRET!: Easily encrypts any file TOPSECRET is a program to encrypt your sensitive files. This program does not use the RSA standard (which is restricted for export). This program uses the aid of a "Catalyst" file (which can be any file) to encrypt another file (any file). The Catalyst acts as a key to code and decode your sensitive files. Of course you can even make your own catalyst by encrypting one file with another. A periodically changing Catalyst can be made by combining 1-Registered mail file 2-Courier file 3-Last message file; This would ensure high security for the transmission of your sensitive files.I am sure you will come up with your own methods. Shareware. Uploaded by the author. Siva Krishna sk510019(a)mail.idt.net -- http://yakko.cs.wmich.edu/~frogfarm ...for the best in unapproved information EmmaGoldmanCamillePagliaMarieCurieAynRandSapphoDianaToriAmosPJHarvey&Demona All generalizations are false, with the exception of this one I feel a groove comin' on | $ | Freedom...yeah, right.

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Re: Los Angeles Times article on Helsingius and anon.penet.fi
by loki＠infonex.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:45 PM 8/31/96, Declan McCullagh wrote: <SNIP> >Note Esther Dyson's comments: > > "The damage that can be done by anonymity is far bigger" than in > any other medium, said Esther Dyson, chairwoman of the Electronic > Frontier Foundation. "In the end, you need to be able to get at > somebody's identity to enforce accountability, and the question is how > do you also enforce freedom of speech and freedom from prosecution for > unpopular opinions." > <SNIP> Is this the official EFF position on remailers? This strong anti-remailer position needs to be retracted or widely publicized. -Lance ---------------------------------------------------------- Lance Cottrell loki(a)obscura.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. Mixmaster, the next generation remailer, is now available! http://www.obscura.com/~loki/Welcome.html or FTP to obscura.com "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------------------

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BOM_ban
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to DL for noting this report. 8-31-96. WaPo: "New Airport Bomb Plan Considered. Computer Profiles, High-Tech Detectors Central to System" A presidential commission on aviation security is considering a bomb detection plan that would require U.S. airlines to scrutinize all passengers at U.S. airports using massive computer files to identify potential terrorists or other suspicious individuals. The plan would require creation of a computer profiling system that would examine passengers' bill-paying records, flying habits and much other data to determine which checked baggage should undergo examination by sophisticated explosives detection equipment. Numerous legal issues still need to be resolved, including thorny civil liberties questions such as whether the airlines would be given access to information from government computer systems like those containing criminal records. Would the airlines store information on individuals? Would they go out and seek information from credit bureaus and other private sources? ----- http://jya.com/bomban.txt (10 kb) via anonymizer BOM_ban

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"Security risks" vs. "credit risks"
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The news that airports/airlines (more on this difference in a bit) may be establishing a data base of security risks sounds Big Brotherish. But, how is it so much different from credit risks and credit reporting data bases? If, for example, private airlines (and the U.S. has only private airlines, not any "public" or "national" airline) wish to check the data bases on their customers, is this not quite similar to checking credit risks and ratings before lending money? There is great danger, to be sure, especially if one's writings and public utterances become entries into a "threat data base." But I see nothing unsurprising in, say, American Airlines expressing more interest in Jim Bell or Tim May, both of whom have written publically about terrorism and "soft targets," and both of whom have written about how to make pipe bombs, than in Marianne Smith, retired school teacher from Peoria. And there is even more danger--even unconstitutionality--in *government involvement* in such data bases. It's unclear from what I've seen if this data base is to be run like the private credit ratings agencies or if it is to have inputs from the FBI, NSA, Interpol, SDECE, etc. Remember, private airlines are just that: private. Surely we do not support laws which limit a private airline from using data it has acquired to decide whom to pay closer attention to. This is the essence of what knowledge is. (So long as none of this is mandatory. If Tim's Pretty Good Airline wishes to not bother screening customers, this should not be illegal. Nor, to my mind, should TPGA be exposed to negligence lawsuits, so long as his policies are clearly spelled out.) I find the notion that one's speeches and Usenet utterances could "harm one's security rating" a distasteful idea, but so long as such security ratings are handled by private players, and used by private players, I see no illegality. (Of course, the major credit reporting agencies--TRW Credit, Equifax, and TransUnion--already collude with the government. They collude to falsify credit ratings, to create identies and histories that never existed when they say they did, and to provide government with data bases for various purposes. Obviously a "TRW Security" function would be at least as corrupt, maybe more so.) --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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No Subject
by patrickbc＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am planning to make a list of hacker's of america and would appreciate it for your help. please send me your handle e-mail address city, state (optional) your mailing address and url whether or not you would like to recieve hackers list type of hacking you do Thank You for your cooperation

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"Douglas R. Floyd" <dfloyd@io.com>: Re: File System Encryption
by patrickbc＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: "Douglas R. Floyd" <dfloyd(a)io.com> To: drifter(a)c2.net (Drifter) Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: File System Encryption Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:01:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <199608271401.JAA04116(a)xanadu.io.com> > > I'm aware of the three main disk encryption programs SFS, SECDRV, and > SECDEV, but I need to find a solution that works with Windows 95 32bit > or Windows NT 4.0. > > I'm currently using SFS 1.17 and Secure Drive under Win-95, but am > unable to continue to work in dos compatability mode due to severe > performance hits. I am open to commercial products that have passed > peer review, but know of none. > > If anyone could suggest a solution (outside of switching OS's), I > would be *most* gratefull. > > Please respond to the list, as I am a subscriber under another > account. If you have another 386 or 486 lying around, you could install Linux and Ian's encrypted loopback code on a remote box, then NFS or Samba the filesystem over. For protection, you could modify the vlock command to lock the console (and not unlock it), and disable inetd. Then, unless someone has the permissions to access the files through the network, the files are inaccessable ;-). > > The Drifter > --------- End forwarded message ---------- You could find some programers on the net and make a new one that is windows 95 compatible.

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re:hackerlist
by patrickbc＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am planning to make a list of hackers and would appreciatte it if you would e-mail me with the following information. handle e-mail city,state url whether or not you would like to recieve the list when finished thanks for your help P. Cummings Patrickbc(a)juno.com

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Re: DON'T Nuke Singapore Back into the Stone Age
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:35 AM 8/31/96 -0700, tcmay(a)got.net (Timothy C. May) wrote: >The point is to make clear to them that the Usenet and similar Web sites >are global in nature, not subject to censorship without a very high local >cost. If discussions of Lee Kwan Yew's dynasty are considered illegal, then >Singaporans will have to choose not to carry the various newsgroups into >which *I* post such messages! [.....] >To be blunt, if Singapore wants to stop me from discussing the dictator Yew >and his feeble son, they can't. Except by pulling the plugs on forums in >which my posts are carried. Or they'll have to implement per-article filtering, whether done by bots (easy to evade) or by humans (normally much harder.) It's easy to have bots get rid of all postings/email/web mentioning Tim May or Klaus von Future Prime, though tougher to do so if you start posting anti-government-slander from your various Tentacles. And they don't have to use humans to filter the whole web - have bots identify any material containing the words "Singapore" or "Yew" and forward it to the humans, though that makes web proxies a bit slow :-) Reuters reports: R>Contents deemed objectionable include those ``which tend to R>bring the government into hatred or contempt, or which excite R>disaffection against the government,'' an SBA statement said Disaffection? Everybody loves Lee Kwan Yew (or else) - he's like a Big Brother to us! # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> Reassign Authority!

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Got to be kidding right?
by pomp pood thai 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:54 PM 8/31/96 EDT, patrick b cummings wrote: >I am planning to make a list of hacker's of america and would appreciate >it for your help. please send me your > handle > e-mail address > city, state > (optional) your mailing address > and url > whether or not you would like to recieve hackers list > type of hacking you do >Thank You for your cooperation $ $ See ya soon... $$ $$ $$ $$ | $ $$$oo oo$$ X $ X^^'$$$$$$^^'$ | X | $ $$$ $ XXX^^^$$^^^$$$ X X X ``$$$'' XX^^^'$$'^^^$$ X%X%X $$$$o XXo o$$ o X $$$$$$ $$$ $$$ oOo o$$$$^ `$$$$$$ $$oo$$ o$$$$$$$'^$$^ $$$$$$$ $$$$ $$$$$$$^ X $$$$$$ $$ $$$$$ ^ X $$$$$$oo$$$$ X $$$$$$$$$$^ X o$$$$$$$$$$^ X o$$$$$$$$$^^ X ^$$$$$$$^ X $$$$$$o | ``$$$4$$ ``$$$ $ Tormentia

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Mail OnNet
by Joel McNamara 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In my never-ending search for the perfect PGP e-mail client, I just stumbled on to a beta of a product put out by FTP Software called Mail OnNet. Unlike the Pronto Secure and Pegasus, this client actually has PGP code (licensed from PGP Inc.) built directly in. No shelling out to DOS! Very nice interface and almost complete idiot-proof encrypting/decrypting/signing. Extremely powerful rules based processing too. Check out: http://www.ftp.com/mkt_info/onnet32/try.htm IMHO, this is getting very close to transparent secure e-mail for the masses. Joel Two notes. (1) It only runs under Win95 and NT. (2) It's ITAR restricted.

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wardialer
by patrickbc＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does any body know where I can get a half decent war dialer.

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Re: BoS: Re: your mail
by drose＠AZStarNet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jan Koum wrote: > Well, I think we all seen and heard what type of people use >phrases like: "Thank You for your cooperation". Yowsuh! We sho' nuffs be all done seen 'em. Stanford, hmm?

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Re: Anti-Racist Laws Stifle Political Liberty
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:01 AM 8/29/96 -0700, Dave Harman OBC wrote: > Some examples of dangerous dead letter laws: > > * Abortion > > [...] If > the previous Supreme Court decisions are overturned, most states will > suddenly start enforcing their fascist anti-abortion laws. This seems unlikely; Abortion was illegal in the US for about 75 years before there was any serious attempt to enforce these laws. As soon as people got serious about enforcing them in the 1950s, the shit hit the fan. No semi free country has ever got away with banning abortion unless there was a convenient neighbor a short day trip away, where abortions are reasonably available. (If Ulster went back to Ireland, I predict Irelands policy on abortions would swiftly change) Your points concerning other dangerous dead letter laws are very true. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: Penet Bites the Dust
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:13 PM 8/30/96 -0700, Mike Duvos wrote: > An interesting Net tidbit. Note that the "International Conference > on Child Sexual Exploitation" in Stolkholm which served as a platform > for these accusations and various coordinated stories in numerous > media outlets is simply a circus put on by ECPAT, a well-known > pressure group whose propaganda is modeled after the now-defunct > National Coalition on Pornography, and whose spurious and laughable > claims about child pornography and vast pedophile conspiracies would fill > volumes. The only odd thing here is that the mainstream press is > presenting this gathering with a perfectly straight face, as if it were > some sort of credible event, which of course it is not. Nothing odd about it. Everytime a new medium appears, the old media run to the politicians to have it controlled and regulated to death. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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RE: Desubscribe
by Johnny Eriksson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Whoever uses the term "spam" in a non-derogratory manor is an > arsehole and deserves to be shipped to sweden where they shall be > made into cheese by nuns. No thanks, we do not want them. --Johnny "A government that fears its citizens -- should"

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Re: FLT 800: From the Rumor Mill...But It Makes Sense.. (fwd)
by Alan Horowitz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 21:29:56 -0400 From: Ralph Jennett <jennett(a)citicom.com> To: Alan Horowitz <alanh(a)widomaker.com> Subject: Re: FLT 800: From the Rumor Mill...But It Makes Sense.. The problem is, from my experience at Roosevelt Roads, the Navy never conducts live fire exercises without declaring the area of operation strictly off limits to non-military aircraft. Also, the 747 would have shown up WITH ITS TRANSPONDER DATA on the screens on an Aegis ship, so why would they fire? And, I didn't think that a P3 pilot would fly around in controlled air space with his transponder shut off, especially when he might become a target himself (or just a victum of a mid air collision) if he isn't squawking. I suppose the story that you sent could be true, but if it is, I'm surprised that nothing like that ever happened before, given the sloppy procedures being followed. The latest RELEASED data makes it sound like a bomb in the cabin (row 24, right side) is responsible. I'm not sure that I don't believe that, although I am quite suspicious of anything coming out of the justice department under the current President and Attorney General.

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Re: PGP Comments Considered Occasionally Harmful Re: Pronto making a comment
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 01:44:15 -0700, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: >>> How did you get Pronto to do a comment? >>I added a "comment=" in my config.txt ;) ... the old fashionned way. >... >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>Version: 2.6.3i >>Charset: ascii >>Comment: http://www.cyberbeach.net/~mbabcock/PGP/ > >Note that the comment makes traffic analysis much easier. >Sure, you can send your mail through five different remailers, >but if each layer of PGP has your home page URL or some other >distinctive Comment:, it's traceable. OTOH, a signature has your distinctive key-id anyway. - "'Anonymity is bad,' says a source who wishes to remain anonymous." - Nuff' said. * Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp * Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" * Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 * Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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Re: WARNING vIRuS!
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 11:21:05 -0500, kickboxer wrote: > There is a new and VERY dangerous virus called the HAZ-MAT virus! >it fucks up the sectors on your hd, and really messes up the partition >tables. It does this once a week, picking a random time to do it. 99.9% of >virus scanners and other antivirus programs will not recognize it, for it is >a totally new strain, using a never before seen code.... Be warned! The >HAZ-MAT virus usually resides in JPG, and GIF files... once the files are >viewed, the virus takes effect. >scan all images upon download! As soon as you said that, it's obvious it's a hoax. The first law of computer viruses: You have to run a program to get one. JPG and GIF files are *never* executed. There is no possible way for you to get a virus from one. - "'Anonymity is bad,' says a source who wishes to remain anonymous." - Nuff' said. * Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp * Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" * Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 * Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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Esther Dyson on Remailers
by P. J. Ponder 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

pretty grim reading in the LA Times article if that is really the EFF position on remailers. could someone straighten this out, or at least give us the EFF's view of why remailers are a bad thing? with friends like that, who needs enemies? --------------- So long, Julf - Thank you for a valuable public service! Best of luck to you! -- to unsubscribe, mail to majordomo(a)toad.com a message that reads: unsubscribe cypherpunks (in the message body, not subject line).

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Re: (null)
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 18:54:29 EDT, patrick b cummings wrote: >I am planning to make a list of hacker's of america and would appreciate >it for your help. please send me your > handle 3VIL HACK3R > e-mail address hacker(a)stupid.troll.com > city, state > (optional) your mailing address <G> Paranoia lives deep. I wouldn't count on many addresses from real hackers. > and url http://www.stupid.troll.com/HACK3RZ/k00d_d00d.html > whether or not you would like to recieve hackers list No. > type of hacking you do Dismembering people who post off topic? <g> >Thank You for your cooperation - "'Anonymity is bad,' says a source who wishes to remain anonymous." - Nuff' said. * Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp * Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" * Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 * Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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Re: Sen. Leahy's "impeccable cyberspace credentials"
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 18:11:52 EDT, patrick b cummings wrote: >I agree with what you are saying but not all polititions are that bad. >You make it sound as if their are no politisions are for freedom of the >net. For the most part there aren't. Why? Well the media has sensationalized it. How many politicians want to go on record as "protecting the rights of child-pornographers"? Now, this isn't a major portion of Internet usage, but you'd never know that from what you read in the paper. If you only listened to them, it'd be something like this: 40% kiddie-porn 20% terrorists, bomb instructions, etc. 15% "evil hackers" who are going to steal our money, shut off our power, etc. 10% hate groups 10% pornography 03% right-wing gun nuts 02% other (research, entertainment, etc) - "'Anonymity is bad,' says a source who wishes to remain anonymous." - Nuff' said. * Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp * Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" * Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 * Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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Re: Los Angeles Times article on Helsingius and anon.penet.fi
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:54:37 -0700, Lance Cottrell wrote: >>Note Esther Dyson's comments: >> "The damage that can be done by anonymity is far bigger" than in >> any other medium, said Esther Dyson, chairwoman of the Electronic >> Frontier Foundation. "In the end, you need to be able to get at >> somebody's identity to enforce accountability, and the question is how >> do you also enforce freedom of speech and freedom from prosecution for >> unpopular opinions." <SNIP> >Is this the official EFF position on remailers? This strong anti-remailer >position needs to be retracted or widely publicized. I doubt they'd publicize it; it'd probably cost them a *lot* of supporters. - "'Anonymity is bad,' says a source who wishes to remain anonymous." - Nuff' said. * Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp * Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" * Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 * Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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Re: WARNING vIRuS!
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:21 AM 8/31/96 -0500, kickboxer ingnoring the "clueserver refused by host" messages wrote: > There is a new and VERY dangerous virus called the HAZ-MAT virus! >it fucks up the sectors on your hd, and really messes up the partition >tables. It does this once a week, picking a random time to do it. 99.9% of >virus scanners and other antivirus programs will not recognize it, for it is >a totally new strain, using a never before seen code.... Be warned! The >HAZ-MAT virus usually resides in JPG, and GIF files... once the files are >viewed, the virus takes effect. >scan all images upon download! This is the clueless kind of crap I expect pitched to AOL users and upper level management. GIF and JPEGs contain *NO* executable code. You cannot get viruses from them. You obviously have no clue as to what the hell you are talking about. The only way that you could obtain the effects described above is with Black Magic and/or Voodoo. (And not even then.) I remember a similar hoax going around about 3-4 years ago about viruses in image files. I guess nothing on the net is ever forgotten entirely. Especially the urban legends and bullshit. --- | "Remember: You can't have BSDM without BSD." - alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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RE: Desubscribe
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Whoever uses the term "spam" in derogatory manner, opposes free > speech and deserves to be caned. Whoever uses the term "spam" in a non-derogratory manor is an arsehole and deserves to be shipped to sweden where they shall be made into cheese by nuns. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Http://www.fatmans.demon.co.uk/crypt/ "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey" -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAjH9j+cAAAEEAMBvREiQR0ot9dFCO0TiSCSunAYLv2g1Bc6I3bz8FzKXNH53 6mieJf/W4rD+CxJpT0q9RQaaoRtkHJLwbjfK2il3D7mEahMAyqvF/xRJNqkXfhM3 sRJM0Jh43l+W0M5vwokbEbk25/bxWWGspTsLD3YHbzKnG6pOcL5OPIRbv66xAAUR tCdQYXVsIEJyYWRsZXkgPHBhdWxAZmF0bWFucy5kZW1vbi5jby51az4= =riHc -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: Encryption
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Algorithm: Select bit-groups of random length from the file until the file is > completely processed. Shuffle the bits in each group randomly and > save each group back to the file. Repeat if needed using different > key-strings for each successive encryption, for increased security. You pay no attention whatsoever to key distribution, the fact that this is just a form of permutation and no substitution is used, also how do you account for the fact that the user`s random number source may not be strong, even recognized rng`s like the keyboard latency routines in pgp grind to a halt when faced with a hardware perculiarity like a keyboard buffer etc... Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Http://www.fatmans.demon.co.uk/crypt/ "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey" -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAjH9j+cAAAEEAMBvREiQR0ot9dFCO0TiSCSunAYLv2g1Bc6I3bz8FzKXNH53 6mieJf/W4rD+CxJpT0q9RQaaoRtkHJLwbjfK2il3D7mEahMAyqvF/xRJNqkXfhM3 sRJM0Jh43l+W0M5vwokbEbk25/bxWWGspTsLD3YHbzKnG6pOcL5OPIRbv66xAAUR tCdQYXVsIEJyYWRsZXkgPHBhdWxAZmF0bWFucy5kZW1vbi5jby51az4= =riHc -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: Esther Dyson on Remailers
by Dave Farber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

EFF does not, to my knowledge, (and I am a Board Member) have an organizational view on this issue. There are a lot of different views and each member of EFF has their own view that they can and will state as private people. The tendency of the Press to label people with organizations affiliation ship gives the impression of organizational views. For example I certainly don't speak for the University of Pennsylvania when I say thing to the newspapers. Dave http://macpond.cis.upenn.edu

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Pseudonym server: Jenaer Anonymous Service <anon@as-node.jena.thur.de>
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jenaer Anonymous Service <anon(a)as-node.jena.thur.de> looks like a high-security pseudonym server. You can send outgoing mail to email or newsgroups. It accepts encrypted email addressed to anon-hexkeyid(a)as-node.jena.thur.de, where hexkeyid is the keyid for a PGP key you send it; it doesn't store any information about the owner of the key. To pick up your mail, you send it an encrypted message with the keyid and a Reply-To: header, and it sends you your mail by mixmaster. It's a bit less user-friendly than some servers, since you not only need PGP, but you need to pick up your mail rather than having it arrive directly. But in return, it's pretty secure, since you can only get caught if the remailer or its operator are compromised when you request a delivery. I haven't yet checked if how flexible it is about the location of Reply-To: in the headers, since some mailers make it difficult to paste that in. The public key for the server is signed by Lutz.Donnerhacke(a)Jena.Thur.De, which is in turn signed by 0x3B7F286D, which MIT thinks is an unknown signator... The help message has a policy against illegal activity, flamewars, and binary files, and says people can be blacklisted for abuse. Because you don't get your reply email until you ask to pick it up, it does seem easy to abuse; complaints, flames, and mailbombs won't reach you if you don't ask for them. I hope the operator doesn't mind the workload of managing the remailer - it looks like a good service, and with Julf's remailer shut down, we need more nymservers. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> Reassign Authority!

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